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GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises [solved]

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Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #645 on: January 02, 2011, 11:35:39 am »
I really am not sure of the state of play with the revision 2.0 UD5 board but from what runn3R has told me this hardware fix works so you either have the choice of returning it to the retailer and swapping it for a new board that may or may not have the same problem or you can arrange to RMA it for the hardware fix.
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Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #646 on: January 11, 2011, 03:41:51 am »
Is gigabyte Canada fixing this issue as well? My ud3 board is making the same whining noise and is just too annoying.

I have tried all suggestions here like disabling c1e and stuff but not having much luck.

Hello,
I got the same problem on my EP45 UD3 motherboard.
When moving the mouse or viewing a gif animation on internet explorer,
I hear the buzz noise from the machine components (not the speaker).
Funny think is that when I run OCCT in the background (so loading the cpu at 100%),
the noise is gone when i move the mouse around.
The problem is that disabling the power save feature on win 7 or disable the power saving in the bios does not solve the problem.
I had the same problem on my dell laptop when I was using speedswitch.
The Dell was making buzz in low cpu frequency mode and while browsing the web.
So it must be related to the cpu load or so, but how to solve this ?

UPDATE: I opened the pc case, and put my hear everywhere close to the components to find the source of the noise,
well, this is clear, this is my power supply !
So Gigabyte is clean and is not the one to be blamed !
Try at your side (put your hear close to the air output of the power supply, you will clearly ear a louder bziip bzzzipp noise.
I was playing a sat animation to reproduce the bip(click the play button):
http://www.meteobelgique.be/observations/image-satellite.html
I use a saesonic S12 600 watts psu.






Concerning the reboot of dead while going in suspend and then resuming,
it is solved by reducing the max fsb value. I use 9x333 MHz on my q6600 now instead of 400x8
and I can use the RAM suspend/resume (it boots properly and quickly).


« Last Edit: January 11, 2011, 06:38:20 am by neytiri »

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Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #647 on: January 11, 2011, 01:25:52 pm »
Have you tried turning off EIST in the BIOS also? Often this helps stop the noises.
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Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #648 on: January 14, 2011, 05:16:20 am »
Have you tried turning off EIST in the BIOS also? Often this helps stop the noises.

Is this to me?

Decided to pick up rev2, just installed it and unfortunately the problem is present on this board as well.  Is there a hardware fix for rev2???

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Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #649 on: January 31, 2011, 12:10:56 pm »
Hi

X58A-UD5 Rev.2.0 has different design and it should be noise free already. Can you confirm if this is the same choke noise as earlier described in this thread for X58A-UD3R Rev.1.0 (coming from CPU VRM area and disappearing after disabling C1E in BIOS)?

You can try the latest bios ver FD3 available here.
ZX-S & C64 are still my favourites ;-)

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #650 on: February 10, 2011, 11:18:15 am »
I've recently joined just because of this issue (X58A-UD3R rev 1.0). I've sent runn3r a message aswell explaining what is going on with the board. Just wondering, will this issue cause damage to other components such as the CPU and GPU, or is it something not to be worried about for the long term. Thanks  :)
« Last Edit: February 10, 2011, 11:23:42 am by Night Fwog »

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Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #651 on: February 10, 2011, 11:48:45 am »
There has been no evidence of any long term damage to any of the board or components. I think it is more a case of whether you can stand the noise!

The fix is available though so there is no reason to put up with it and I am sure that runn3R can arrange it for you.
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Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #652 on: February 10, 2011, 01:23:46 pm »
There has been no evidence of any long term damage to any of the board or components. (...)
Correct

Hi Night Fwog

Thanks for PM. You have few ways (which have been described in this thread already) to solve it:
1) disable C1E setting in BIOS setup
2) load special bios FVB for your Rev.1.0 of this MB
3) send the MB to RMA for implementing hardware fix

« Last Edit: November 23, 2011, 01:17:31 pm by runn3R »
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Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #653 on: February 10, 2011, 03:53:33 pm »
Hi, I disabled C1E and the noise seems to have disappeared :) Thank you very much for the help, i'll post in case I run into any other troubles in the future. Thanks again :D

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Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #654 on: February 10, 2011, 05:45:12 pm »
Welcome  8)
I am glad I could help you
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Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #655 on: February 11, 2011, 12:13:25 am »
Greetings friends !

I recently returned my old GA-X58A-UD5 (rev. 1.0) to my retailer store.
And got a GA-X58A-UD5 (rev. 2.0). It was a bit dissapointing to me but rev.2.0 has an absolutely similar issues that i had with my UD5 rev.1.0 (noises from PSU, the one that neytiri described above).

After i installed latest BIOS (FD), which changed all power saving functions from "Enabled" to "Auto", it tone down the noise to its maximum possible level (but it didn't disappear). I even got the chance to try different PSU's (Zalman and chieftech). Both of them are noisy on X58A-UD5 and deadly silent on my old EP45T-UD3LR. So this is not the issue with PSU.

So now, I'm at the state, where i was with my old rev.1.0 with disabled power saving functions  :-\

PS: I also got an unlucky experience with sending MB for a FIX to my official distributor in my city (and probably country). They were holding it for like 3 weeks, then returned it without actually fixing anything. Well,i suppose it is a human factor. I wasted a ton of time for this and don't really want to waste even more. So this is not an option for me.

I think now i just have to bear with it and wait for some kind of miracle BIOS update.

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Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #656 on: February 11, 2011, 07:08:11 am »
Hi

You didn't mention your location and it's not in your profile.

Have you tried the official BIOS for this problem ?
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Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #657 on: February 12, 2011, 10:42:15 am »
Hi Night Fwog

Thanks for PM. You have few ways (which have been described in this thread already) to solve it:
1) disable C1E setting in BIOS setup
2) load special bios FVB
3) send the MB to RMA for implementing hardware fix

I tested mine board with OCZ and Seasonic PSUs again in Nov 2010... Surprisingly, the acoustic noise level was not as significant as I reported in the past. May be the weather in Nov 2010 is more "friendly" to the UD3R (Rev. 1.0).
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Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #658 on: February 12, 2011, 11:14:44 am »
Well it is maturing now. Everyone knows older things are quieter. ;D
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Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #659 on: February 12, 2011, 02:29:59 pm »
Hi,  FWIW
I have been reading this post with great interest..Why? Because I have heard the noises you describe many many times before in many devices not just computers..
In this case "it is the nature of the beast"..Here is why,
To correctly describe it "it is acoustical noise rather than Electrical noise..
Let me do some background first..You all know that Computer power supplies use switching transistors/FETs to generate the required voltages needed efficiently rather than a power hungry analogue regulator..Thats how they can achieve 80% numbers..
A square wave is made up of a fundamental frequency and odd harmonics(3x,5x,7x etc) of the fundamental frequency..
A non rectangular wave consists of both odd and even harmonics of the fundamental frequency..(2x,3x,4x,5,6x,7x etc)
Many power supplies employ both varying  fundamental switching frequencies as well as duty cycle variations to generate the +12,+5 +3.3 and so on..Both frequency and duty cycle depend on the load as it varies..Each power supply is differently designed..
In addition the mother board itself employs some power regulation..An example of that is generating the Vcore voltages (usually from the +12 volt supply)
Now you ask ,So What..Imagine if you will if you could see these harmonics moving up and down in both amplitude and frequency as the load current  varies..Side note A Spectrum analyser does just that)
The next concept is to understand that you have to change these varing pulses back to some DC voltage..This is usually done with some filtering, and that is usually a LC circuit (Inductor capacitor) that you can see on the board and if you could look in the power supply you would also see them..
Usually located by some thick magnetic wire around some core material..  Here is your culprit 90% of the time..  Each coil has some resonate frequency based in it's design and when a harmonic excites  this resonate frequency if conditions are right it will "sing".. The magnetic flux increasing and decreasing  caused the core to vibrate at the resonate frequency in the audio range..Similar to a piezo  buzzer effect..
This is why "Tweaking" sometimes will mis align the harmonics to stop the noise only to reappear at some different condition..
It is a very elusive problem and not always repeatable ..Designers and engineers try to minimise this effect by either a conformal coating or even by potting the inductor in some enclosure..Thats not always successful..You can testify to that..
The solution is also as  elusive as the noise itself..If the sound is coming from within the Power supply you have two options,either tweak the load or RMA the PS..
If coming from the board itself you have the same above two options or sometimes if you are lucky take a thin wooden stick about a foot long carefully and gently touch each inductor..If the high pitch noise stops you have found the culprit..This is hit and miss because you have to be lucky enough first to hear it and also locate the individual inductor..
If located I suggest you go to the mfgr. and tell them you located the "singing/squealing" inductor and what do they recommend that will not void your warranty..(get it in writing)
Each and every case is different so this post may not fit your case,but just maybe it may help understand and even fix your problem..
This post is meant for those who do not understand  and I am sure that people with an electronics background will have run into this long ago..
Good Luck,
Jolphil :)
BTW One of the benefits of age is tone deafness.. I can't hear them any more..Haha
PS: I must confess I did not read all 44 pages each and every post so if this was explained..I apologise
« Last Edit: February 12, 2011, 02:37:04 pm by jolphil »