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GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises [solved]

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #270 on: June 11, 2010, 10:36:48 pm »
I have an X58A-UDR3 Revision 1
Core i7-930
I applied this FVB Bios.
There is no noticeable difference. I must turn off both CE1 and CE 3-7 option in the bios in order to not hear a headache inducing squeal.
At which point my CPU is running full tilt and getting very hot (80+ with stock cooler).

I also heard the noise when I applied FVB BIOS. I can't remember what I've done and the noise is gone. However, I can't confirm 100% that the noise is totally gone because the noise produced by my PSU fan is quite loud and may be the high-pitch noise (P2) due to the flaw design of the Gigabyte motherboard is not loud enough to hear at the moment. Try applying "Load Optimized Default" in BIOS and see if it helps...
« Last Edit: June 11, 2010, 10:38:40 pm by onemilimeter »
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Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #271 on: June 11, 2010, 11:21:31 pm »
You could physically stop the fan for a few moments to check for the noise. It shouldn't hurt the PSU as long as it runs again shortly.
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Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #272 on: June 12, 2010, 12:46:01 am »
Based on the pics Runner posted.
http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,1426.msg9465.html#msg9465


All it looks like to me is that
when you run Prime95, the c1e gets turn off.
And then in the last pic, you turn off c1e in bios and get the same cpu volts as the second pictures of prime 95.

Which means it is not really a true fix, which can't be fixed, all it does is turn of c1e when there is cpu loading.

Which means I could just turn off c1e in bios and do the same thing permanently.

Correct me if I am wrong about this assessment...

So basically in both cases, c1e got turned off. First case was using using deception (c1e was disable no matter what settings you put it on) while with the latest bios, it is turn off during loading.

So essentially the only way to get rid of this noise is turn off c1e, which i could do myself in the bios.

The true problem is the design or board components itself which can't be fixed, since all you did was turn off c1e in both instances.

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Does c1e get turn back on automatically when the cpu loading becomes idle? No pics of what happens when cpu gets idle again, after prime 95.

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Also I suggest the ppl that are writing the bios, please make c1e disable as an optimized default/lowest settings default.

Since if we overclock etc and need to reset the bios, it would be preferable to have c1e off by default instead of needing to go in and disabling it everytime.


« Last Edit: June 12, 2010, 01:18:25 am by The Joker »
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Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #273 on: June 12, 2010, 01:25:39 am »
fvb does nothing to fix the issue. numerous people confirmed that fvb doesnt fix the noise problem 100%

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Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #274 on: June 12, 2010, 03:10:21 am »
I have an X58A-UDR3 Revision 1
Core i7-930
I applied this FVB Bios.
There is no noticeable difference. I must turn off both CE1 and CE 3-7 option in the bios in order to not hear a headache inducing squeal.
At which point my CPU is running full tilt and getting very hot (80+ with stock cooler).

I also heard the noise when I applied FVB BIOS. I can't remember what I've done and the noise is gone. However, I can't confirm 100% that the noise is totally gone because the noise produced by my PSU fan is quite loud and may be the high-pitch noise (P2) due to the flaw design of the Gigabyte motherboard is not loud enough to hear at the moment. Try applying "Load Optimized Default" in BIOS and see if it helps...

Nothing worked. I could get variable amounts of noise, but it was still headache inducing.

However, I noticed a much larger problem with this BIOS. no USB hubs would work. I have an Aluratek HD dock and one built into my Dell Monitor.
I had to re-flash F5 firmware with "Clear DMI data Pool" checked.

Mind you, now that I write this down, it could have been because I had NOT cleared the DMI originally that caused the problem.

Will play again later. Right now got to do real work.

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #275 on: June 12, 2010, 05:00:18 am »
Like Dark Mantis mentioned, it looks like BIOS is not able to fix the problem, i.e. a flaw design of the motherboard. What option Gigabyte has if BIOS can not fix the problem?

(1) Keep on rolling out problematic BIOS?

(2) Scrap Rev. 1.0 / 2.0 and push for Rev. 3.0 and allow all users for RMA?

(3) Refund the money?

(4) Keep on blaming customers for using low quality PSU?

(5) Advise existing customers or potential customers to switch to ASUS X58 boards?
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Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #276 on: June 12, 2010, 10:01:02 am »
I think that is about it in a nutshell! Although I don't actually expect Gigabyte to do any of these. :(
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
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HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
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i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
StrikeX S7
Full water cooling
3 x 27" Iiy

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #277 on: June 12, 2010, 11:05:16 am »
I think that is about it in a nutshell! Although I don't actually expect Gigabyte to do any of these. :(

That will be very bad for customers...
« Last Edit: June 12, 2010, 02:39:38 pm by onemilimeter »
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Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #278 on: June 14, 2010, 11:17:45 am »
I have an X58A-UDR3 Revision 1
Core i7-930
I applied this FVB Bios.
There is no noticeable difference. I must turn off both CE1 and CE 3-7 option in the bios in order to not hear a headache inducing squeal. (...)

Hi

Thanks for your tests and feedback.

Is the sound coming from CPU area in the MB? Have you tried to use "Clear DMI" while upgrading to FVB bios and load Optimized Defaults then?
If yes then please contact with local GIGABYTE RMA center for further help.

I also heard the noise when I applied FVB BIOS. I can't remember what I've done and the noise is gone.

Hi

It's very important to know if FVB really solves the whine problem in your MB (as you reported it the very beginning) or not. Please kindly try to play more with this configuration (for instance go back to F5 bios, then again load FVB).
If it's too much trouble for you please contact me then I will help to arrange RMA for you directly from GIGABYTE UK.

fvb does nothing to fix the issue.

Hi

It seems that FVB fixed the most annoying sound issue (under Chrome browser) in onemilimeter's MB

numerous people confirmed that fvb doesnt fix the noise problem 100%

numerous??? I have noticed only 2 who tested this bios in the MB's with the whine issue (onemilimeter & tracer).
« Last Edit: June 14, 2010, 12:39:43 pm by runn3R »
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Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #279 on: June 14, 2010, 06:03:26 pm »

I also heard the noise when I applied FVB BIOS. I can't remember what I've done and the noise is gone.

Hi

It's very important to know if FVB really solves the whine problem in your MB (as you reported it the very beginning) or not. Please kindly try to play more with this configuration (for instance go back to F5 bios, then again load FVB).
If it's too much trouble for you please contact me then I will help to arrange RMA for you directly from GIGABYTE UK.

Hi runn3R, I powered up my computer (still loaded with FVB) just now and after I logout from Yahoo Mail (using Google Chrome), the noise (P2) occured again. Then, I disabled the C1E via i7Turbo and the noise was gone. Then, I enabled the C1E again but noise didn't come back though Google Chrome was open. Weird... I guess one of the forumers feedback was correct, i.e. the noise (P2) is load dependent now.
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Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #280 on: June 14, 2010, 09:08:49 pm »
Hi

It's very important to know if FVB really solves the whine problem in your MB (as you reported it the very beginning) or not. Please kindly try to play more with this configuration (for instance go back to F5 bios, then again load FVB).
If it's too much trouble for you please contact me then I will help to arrange RMA for you directly from GIGABYTE UK.

Hi runn3R...

My earlier problem:
[P1] [From Windows Welcome screen to Windows XP is fully loaded] Acoustic noise: "squealing" noise
[P2] [After Windows XP is fully loaded and if Google Chrome is loaded] Acoustic noise: constant "high-pitch" noise


You may find my latest test outcomes below.

Kindly refer to EventNo [3]. The "Turbo" settings in [BIOS] and [i7Turbo] are different!

Kindly refer to EventNo [5]. When "C3/C6/C7 State Support" in [BIOS] is DISABLED, P2 noise is back!


Kindly compare EventNo [5] and Event No [6]. When "C3/C6/C7 State Support" in [BIOS] is DISABLED, the "Calculated Multiplier" shown in [i7Turbo] FLUCTUATED rapidly between 13~16, while when it's ENABLED, the "Calculated Multiplier" remains at 12+ most of the time. In my opinion, like dkslim mentioned before, the RAPID FLUCTUATION of CPU multiplier or CPU voltage that causes the noise!

« Last Edit: June 15, 2010, 08:14:17 am by runn3R »
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Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #281 on: June 15, 2010, 04:09:25 am »
More results as given below. Kindly note the load percentage differences. With C3/C6/C7 is disabled, the minimum load percentage at system idle is about 0.3%. What's the advantage if I enable the C3/C6/C7 in the BIOS?

« Last Edit: June 15, 2010, 08:15:40 am by runn3R »
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Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #282 on: June 15, 2010, 08:27:01 am »
Hi onemilimeter

Thanks for your deep tests of UD3R 1.0 and input provided. I have just passed it to our HQ for investigation.

Hi dkslim

I really appreciate your feedback about UD7 sounds. HQ is also working on this.
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Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #283 on: June 15, 2010, 09:35:09 am »
dkslim
I take it that what runn3R is referring to is a pm to him. Please can you share the info with the forum as it might be useful to the rest of us with UD7 boards too. Cheers.
Gigabyte X58A-UD7
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Dominators 1600 x6 12GB
6970 2GB
HX850
256GB SSD, Sam 1TB, WDB320GB
Blu-Ray
HAF 932

Gigabyte Z68X-UD5-B3
i7 3770K
Vengeance 1600 16GB
6950 2GB
HCP1200W
Revo Drive x2, 1.5TB WDB RAID0
16x DLRW
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Re: GA-X58A-UD3R electrical noises
« Reply #284 on: June 15, 2010, 10:37:51 am »
dkslim
I take it that what runn3R is referring to is a pm to him. Please can you share the info with the forum as it might be useful to the rest of us with UD7 boards too. Cheers.

Hi Dark Mantis.

Yes, I have been in contact with runn3R via private message, and ran some tests on the UD7. I found a couple of things:
1) The UD7 CPU socket area made an electrical buzzing noise (just like the UD3R), when doing the following things: (a) when Windows is loading; (b) when I ran a HD Tune benchmark; (c) when DPC latency checker was running in the background; (d) when shutting down Windows; and (e) when going into and out of folders in windows explorer.
2) There were red bars in the DPC latency checker, when I was doing normal things on the computer like browsing the internet.

runn3R has said that HQ is working on fixing these issues, so let's wait and see what they come up with. :)