Intels Ivy-Bridge and Sandy Bridge E

[Aussie Allan]

  Hi People!

  Can't keep riding on the Back of the Bulldozer thread so have kicked off this little page to gauge peoples interest in what Intel have in store for us in the coming months......

  I'll monitor and answer any direct questions to the best of my ability along with others , ...... but remember, ....We know about as much as you!

  I'll add some links to some worth while reading as well for a bit more flavour and content.......hopefully we will be better armed when the new LGA2011 socket arrives then the debacle over the last couple of days re AMDs offering or lack of it.

 To kick things off .... Intels new 3-D Tri-Gate Transistor technology got me thinking about Die density and a bit of hunting gave me a transistor count of about 1.16 to 1.28 billion ...... but I did the maths and something doesn't add up!.......I came up with 1.4 to 1.49  billion Transistors on  a 172.6152 square mm on the 22nm die process  .....yes I factored in no Graphics and even added the interlink controllers to boot!..... but it still seems We may be in for a monster of a CPU due to 22nm process combined with all the transistors now standing up and being pack together so tightly ( 3D Tri-Gate) ........

  And my favourite quote.......

  World's First Demonstration of 22nm 3-D Tri-Gate Transistors

The 3-D Tri-Gate transistor will be implemented in the company's upcoming manufacturing process, called the 22nm node, in reference to the size of individual transistor features. More than 6 million 22nm Tri-Gate transistors could fit in the period at the end of this sentence( . )

   Not a bad thing by any means.......Enjoy the read!

  http://www.hardcore-hardware.com/20111003170/Latest-news/intel-mobile-ivy-bridge-cpu-pictured-compared-with-sandy-bridge.html

  http://newsroom.intel.com/community/intel_newsroom/blog/2011/05/04/intel-reinvents-transistors-using-new-3-d-structure

  Aussie Allan

[teknology9]

Hi,

Any ideas of the prices of MB's Allan and the launch date?

Here's some news or may be not regarding 1366 CPU's:

http://motherboardnews.com/2011/06/13/intels-x79-chipset-to-support-lga-1366-cpus/

[Aussie Allan]

  Don't hold your breath .....but have a look at this....http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2011/05/31/asus-shows-lga2011-concept-board/1

  Launch date of both is work in progress........It's already cost me a lunch and got no where ...... maybe not McDonald's next time

  Aussie Allan

[teknology9]

Some information on the cost of the LGA 2011 CPU's, according to this article the i7 3820 might turnout to be cheaper than the i5 2600:

http://lenzfire.com/2011/08/prices-for-intels-core-i7-3xxx-revealed-45388/

It's getting interesting, will prices of i5 cpu's fall.

teknology9

[Aussie Allan]

  Better then expected really .... but I still think Intel will go for the throat on this one...... expect the prices to go lower on the initial release/launch

  I think this is the reason Intel raised the price of the X79 chip ($50US per unit) to board manufactures to offset there projected discounts on the CPUs

  Still guessing but it makes good business sense!

     It's getting interesting, will prices of i5 cpu's fall.  ..... MOST DEFINITELY! ..... will be old tech by then...Might even get one with a tank of juice

  Good find teknology9

  Aussie Allan

[teknology9]

Here is some more good news, you don't work for Intel do you Aussie Allan? Have a butchers at this:

 http://news.softpedia.com/news/Intel-X79-Is-50-More-Expensive-than-the-Z68-Brings-Almost-No-New-Features-227237.shtml

but I still think Intel will go for the throat on this one

You were right......or is it just stating the obvious.

Teknology9

[Aussie Allan]

  If they offer me a job.....I'll seriously consider it......even if it's to keep my big mouth shut

  One of the pitfalls of having a semi-photographic memory is it allows you to gather a lot of relative, current data and make informed guesses!

  One thing Sorin missed on touching in that feature is although he states "No new real features" it will support a whole new Family architecture.....tick....tock....which is LGA-2011.......from the obvious of 22nm ...to 3D tri-Gate and materials...... these chips will clock like demons ...... a lot of it comes down to the actual Die/wafer thickness ......the thinner they are.....the better and faster they can dissipate heat from the CORE of the die  to the spreader.....this is one of the reasons why "K" silica was so successful .....more dense.....faster heat dissipation!

  Here are some of the things being said on the net about what's possibly in store.......

  A whopping 15MB of L3 cache! ....... this is the size (or very close) of Dozers L2 and L3 combined....

 32 lanes mounted on the die .....resulting in.................

 Natively supports dual x16 PCIe that are directly from the CPU instead of from the chipset for shortened latency

  PCIe 3.0 likely

 42.75% to 60% increase  in performance ......probable due to in part to quad channel memory support

  66% increase in memory bandwidth up to 1800Mhz supported (officially)

 1.19 to 1.49 Billion transistor count on a 22nm build

 The LGA 2011 socket (R) pin count can support up to 12 physical cores ( 24 in total physical and logical)

  Up to 180W TDP Stock..... don't let big numbers scare you.......all you have to do is get rid of it ..... air will be a very hard call even at stock speed.....current designs tap out at about 130-160W

  Sandy Bridge-E Won't Pack Stock Coolers, Intel to Sell them Separately

  maximum single-core Turbo speeds. Both the hex-core 3.3GHz and quad-core 3.6GHz top out at a maximum speed of 3.9GHz,

  Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition is pitched to be about 47.25% faster on average, compared to Core i7-990X Extreme Edition.

  I'll post some more as it comes to light , BTW ...... I always read everything and only the more believable makes it on to my posts

  Aussie Allan

 

[teknology9]

If they offer me a job.....I'll seriously consider it......even if it's to keep my big mouth shut

Hey....Al....if they did that we would miss out on all the information that you bring to our attention!!! 

This makes for good reading and even better if your a rich photographer who can afford it!!!

I always read everything and only the more believable makes it on to my posts

Well....Al, everthing posted, by anyone is food for thought, and you either take notice of it or you don't. But you know all these top secrets, by the way look at this:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20111004232129_AMD_s_Next_Generation_Piledriver_Micro_Architecture_Expected_to_Offer_10_Performance_Advantage.html

This won't mean you'll  go quiet again......will it!!!

teknology9

[Aussie Allan]

  This won't mean you'll  go quiet again......will it!!!

  Not a hope in Hell my friend......!


     AMD Piledriver Core May Be 10% More Powerful Than Original Bulldozer.........due sometimes in 2012

  mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......How long was Dozer delayed     ........I'll be dead by then!

  Aussie Allan

[teknology9]

This won't mean you'll  go quiet again......will it!!!

 

Not a hope in Hell my friend......!

Ahhhh......good things just would not be the same matey!!!


Teknology9

[Dark Mantis]

There are certain things that need to be relied upon! A quiet Allan would just not be right

[Aussie Allan]

                And my all-time personal favourites

   

            Compared to Intel’s first microprocessor, the 4004, introduced in 1971, a 32nm CPU runs over 4.000 times faster ........and each transistor uses about 4,000 times less energy. The price per transistor has dropped by a factor of about 110,000.

  And the Humble 32nm transistor can switch on and off at over 300 billion times in one second

  Aussie Allan

 

[Dark Mantis]

I can remember hankering after the Intel 8008 processor and thinking what a powerful beast that must be. Seems impossible now but that is how things change along the way.

[Aussie Allan]

                                                    News Flash!


      Every person thats into Intel or AMD for that matter needs to read this link.......Here's a few title snips from the article .................

         Intel Haswell will be much easier to overclock, compared to Ivy Bridge

In terms of Overclocking Intel claims that if overclocking a Sandy Bridge processor is easy then doing the same with Ivy Bridge will be easier, with Haswell it will be much easier, which will support higher frequencies with even conventional cooling methods and each of the critical components will be optimized for better overclocking. Now you can overclock the cores and memory without worrying about affecting the I / O bus and PCIe clock.

       Complete Series of Ivy Bridge will come with an Unlocked Multiplier

            Performance Increase of IGP in Intel Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge processors

           Intel Haswell CPU will have 2 or 3 GPUs working Simultaneously

           AMD APUs vs Intel Haswell with 3 IGPs


                             http://lenzfire.com/2011/10/intel-haswell-cpu-will-have-multiple-igps-with-better-overclocking-support-56437/


          Enjoy

  Aussie Allan

[teknology9]

Thats interesting reading good find Aussie Allan, the deciding factor for some will be cost will Intel lower their prices to be commercially competitive aswell?. I would like to see the range of X79 MB's from Gigabyte,it's mid October and no info as of yet.