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Other questions related to GIGABYTE => Other questions about GIGABYTE => Topic started by: runn3R on July 02, 2010, 04:01:50 pm
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Thanks to venganza for the idea of having this poll:
http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,2090.msg10802.html#msg10802
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Great poll. We could do with more serious debate like this and hopefully the oportunity to field test the prototypes ;)
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I really like the front panel "Any Key" idea it's brilliant!
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As usual darkmantis is correct.
It would be helpful if you guys can come up with features you would like to see on future motherboards and other Gigabyte products, they do actually want to know.
Actually I was asked to respond to a questionnaire from GA only the other day, and one of the main things they were interested in was exactly that, "what features would you like to see in future motherboards"
Well it wasn't easy to respond to, since something like the UD9 is fairly complete and packed with everything.
One thing I did think would be handy for most of us, would be a product like the "EVGA Bot", but standard rather than an optional extra. Perhaps the new OC technology coming up in GA utils soon will make this a redundant idea though, we shall see.
So what ideas can you come up with guys?
* re poll: I drink a lot of coffee, and while of course a humorous suggestions, I am mindful that Linux took a good stab at it :)
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Coffee.html
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* re poll: I drink a lot of coffee, and while of course a humorous suggestions, I am mindful that Linux took a good stab at it
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Coffee.html
Absolutely brilliant! 8) I hadn't seen that one before. Well done VenGanZa.
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OK, if we are going to be serious about this.......
not so much new technology but how about an increase in the size of the BIOS chip?
At the moment Gigabyte boards mainly come with 8Mb + 8Mb back-up, if the size of these BIOS chips were increased then surely they would be able to improve the programming and features for Overclocking, CPU, GPU, and other hardware compatibility. One of the main reasons that motherboards can't keep up with advances in technology in other areas, is that the coders do not have enough space for instructions for newer CPU's, GPU's etc., to be added in BIOS updates. Increasing the size of BIOS would surely not cost that much to do but would allow for the extra instructions to be added, as and/or when needed.
People will still buy newer technology as it becomes available but, with a feature like this, Gigabyte boards which are already solid and last for a long time would be a little more adaptable and future proof for those who can't afford a big upgrade.
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Totally great idea. If they made them big enough there would be no need for a hard drive or SSD. Not joking, it's just a case of how big do you go. :-\ I think in the future that is what will happen and you will have a whole computer on the motherboard. For now though I think it's a definite positive step and many more things could be incorporated in the BIOS chip.
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Totally great idea. If they made them big enough there would be no need for a hard drive or SSD. Not joking, it's just a case of how big do you go. :-\ I think in the future that is what will happen and you will have a whole computer on the motherboard.
I had considered this and my initial idea was for the OS to be on a built in chip but, I then considered the practicality of this and decided that it would actually be a backwards step as early PC's did come with an OS and look where it's ended up....... Microsoft domination! ;) Also, the need for regular OS and Driver updates would mean that the OS would no doubt outgrow the "OS chip" pretty quickly, a bit like BIOS is doing.
Another idea would be "Hot pluggable" RAM.
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Another idea would be "Hot pluggable" RAM.
Already extant on plenty of server level systems, hot plug everything. Price is a factor on most consumer gear, so unless there is an existing demand, no manufacturer is going to price itself out of the market.
It is useful to be about the replace faulty stuff on a rack-mount system of 50 machines, especially if you are running something like a database in a bank; you don't want any part of the gear going off-line, but on a consumer machine?
As for BIOS, it might be interesting if runn3R asks GA engineers exactly how much of an 8mb BIOS chips is actually utilized, I would be guessing there is a crap load of free space for whatever contingency.
There are boards with 16mb chips that I know of, anyway it would be interesting to find out some facts.
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Already extant on plenty of server level systems, hot plug everything. Price is a factor on most consumer gear, so unless there is an existing demand, no manufacturer is going to price itself out of the market.
I don't move in the rarefied atmosphere of High-End servers so I wasn't aware that this tech was out there, but it would still be useful in some instances like the Cloud O/C tech. Not for everyone but useful nonetheless.
As another idea how about Optical interfaces for HDD's rather than the present SATA/IDE cable set up? A thin fibre optical cable from the HDD to a socket on the motherboard, would help with airflow through the chassis and more information and, at a faster rate, could be transmitted than the current technology allows.
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I like that idea on a number of levels. The technology side with the extra speed that would be possible, the customising aspect because it would look great and the building of systems because a thin optical cablewould be almost invisible if you wanted it to be. 8)
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Another aspect of Optical interfaces would be that there is less chance of errors due to spikes and other power fluctuations. It would either work or it wouldn't. That would also hope with trouble shooting!
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Hi mates
Thanks for your comments and ideas.
Please notice I've added another option in this poll to choose from: "Another one (please mention below)"
Feel free to discuss here any new ideas, I will watch this topic.
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Hi runn3R
Good idea, but I'm sticking with my Gigabyte Girlfriend ;D
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Of course ;D
Maybe we should start separate topic in off topic section:
http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/board,19.0.html
about how she should look like? ;)
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Well, if she's going to be specifically for Dark Mantis she'll have to have removable head & limbs so he can avoid the use of the chainsaw when it comes to modding!
Is that what happened to his last girlfriend! :o
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Hey, I am getting a bit desperate for the shovel now! The smell is getting worse and the neighbours will start complaining soon :-X
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USB hand warmers to keep us warm when using low ambients for overclocking? :P
Hilarious poll :D
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One market Gigabyte doesn't actually have a foot in so far is the overclocking cooling area. Maybe they could come out with some more extreme components to go with their high-end overclockable motherboards(UD7, UD9 etc) It is a market that is getting more and more interest even amoung the mainstream computer users.
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One market Gigabyte doesn't actually have a foot in so far is the overclocking cooling area. Maybe they could come out with some more extreme components to go with their high-end overclockable motherboards(UD7, UD9 etc) It is a market that is getting more and more interest even amoung the mainstream computer users.
I agree with dark mantis, say like a Gigabyte made DICE/ln2 pot?
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One market Gigabyte doesn't actually have a foot in so far is the overclocking cooling area. Maybe they could come out with some more extreme components to go with their high-end overclockable motherboards(UD7, UD9 etc) It is a market that is getting more and more interest even amoung the mainstream computer users.
I agree with dark mantis, say like a Gigabyte made DICE/ln2 pot?
There is a huge market in liquid cooling gear nowadays which Gigabyte is missing out on.
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Agreed
DONT do the galaxy series!
If your going to do a LCS system do it properly!
Thing is in the east and board manufacturers in particualar are suspicious of any water cooling related issue.
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That's it exactly. if they are going to go into the market at all it must be quality gear. The liquid cooling fraternity won't use any old cheap rubbish and that is where a lot of mainstream manufacturers go wrong. They try and "dip their toe in the water" and come up with some half baked kit. Quality, well designed items are what is needed and make a name for themselves along with the overclocking market. The two go together and if you can do well in one the other can be persuaded to follow. This is the streetmap Gigabyte needs to follow for the future.
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Another one (please mention below)
Firstly: I would like to see a dual cpu overclocking motherboard. My sudgestion would be to skip LGA1366 altogether and for Gigabyte to concentrate on a LGA2011 monster killer board, they will be the first board maker with such a setup. This board will be a wr breaker and hardcore enthusiasts first choice, will blow everything else out of the window ;D
Secondly: I would really love to have a revision of the i-ram, that thing was totaly awesome, most enthusiasts would agree with me I think. It would be a card with either an x8 or x16 pci-e interphase and of course would allow for DDR3 modules to be inserted. I would also like someway to access the cards bios so I could tweek to hell out of it for some killer performance, Gigabyte will also be the first to do this. I see some pcmark05 wr's falling 8)
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a LGA2011 monster killer board, they will be the first board maker with such a setup.
You will just have to wait and see what is lurking in the wings. :o
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a LGA2011 monster killer board, they will be the first board maker with such a setup.
You will just have to wait and see what is lurking in the wings. :o
Is that a bit of a clue you are giving me?? ;) ;D
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Now where have I seen something like this before.....oh......yeah:
http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,6644.0.html
;)
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Hi runn3R
Good idea, but I'm sticking with my Gigabyte Girlfriend ;D
+1 :P
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If this is available already frgive me.
I'd like to have a high voltage USB port or high vooltage setting that would allow me to use external CDROM so that I do not have to connect 2 USB ports to the one drive any more
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A Windows RT tablet for executives
10mm thick with 1 USB port, mini HDMI. MicroSDXC with UHS1. Volume rocker and rotation lock, Power, WIFI 802.11n, AGPS, Bluetooth 4. ~ 10 hours battery. 1920x 1080 res 10.1 to 11.6 inch screen 400nits. Gorilla glass. high contrast. Super LCD, mSATA 64GB SSD. 2 MP webcam. 8MP back camera with flash. Audio out, Microphone. Sim slot?, 4G? You decide. Stereo 1.5W speakers. Software amp/graphic EQ to make louder if needed.
all ports are covered and are activated by pushing on them and they pop out; push to lock. This maintains a certain high quality look to the tablet. Should be as light as possible but try to keep it below 700 grams. Angular or flat edges with curved corners similar to Microsoft surface to avoid apple patents. Make the finish look metalic. Or if plastic to reduce weight add metalic highlights or a metalic/chrome colored ring around the tablet or someting. This would help to make it more solid and feel more premium in users hands.
Stylus silo.
Black color. Chrome buttons/touch areas.
Instead of buttons for volume and rotation lock etc. You can use soft buttons/touch surfaces. Power should be a hard button still though. Further pushes the premium objective.
No air vents at all. Use your expertice in making silent graphic cards to figure this out. Or use convection water pipe idea below.
Comes with MS Office, Skype, Live Essentials, PDF Reader, Adobe flash, Universal Viewer, Media Center ?, Facebook, Youtube/ Twitter apps or launchers. Evernote subscription for 1 months, good Scheduler app, good quick note taking app that has good hand recognition, Voice recognition app for launching actions. A service that finds apps the executive wants to use. It should ask what he would like or what business he is in (Graphics design/Accounting/Stocks/Travel etc and fetch the best apps to satisfy those areas) He then desides which ones he wants to install. For example if he is interested in twitter the tablet should be able to suggest that he install TweetDeck. If he works in stocks. It should display a list of good stock or market apps and the Wall Street journal subscription. This allows the Executive to start work immediately and improves significantly the out of the box experience. Thereby increasing the preceived value of the machine.
Another tablet for business professionals
Windows 8 Pro about 12mm thick. Intel/AMD 2013 processor. 2 full USB ports, RJ45 Ethernet, HDMI, VGA, Full sized SDXC with UHS1, AGPS, volume, rotation lock, power, WIFI 802.1n. BLuetooth 4. 6-8 hours battery. 1.3 MP webcam. no back camera. Audio out, Microphone. No Sim slot. No 3G, no 4G. No WWAN module. no PCIE internal connector. We have 2 Full sized USB ports. If 4G is required; Buy a modem.
SATA3 with
mSATA 16 GB cache SSD and 250GB/320GB 7mm HDD. or
500GB 7mm HDD or
64GB mSATA SSD or
750 GB Seagate Momemtux XT hybrid HDD
mSATA models SATA ports are not installed (blank spot).
all external ports are covered and are activated by pushing on them and they pop out; push to lock. This maintains a certain high quality look to the tablet. Should be as light as possible but keep it below 800 grams. Angular or flat edges with curved corners (to allow pop out port covers to work) similar to Microsoft surface to avoid apple patents.
1440x900 /1366x768/1280x800 res 10.1 to 11.6 inch screen. 400nits. Gorilla glass. Backlighted hard keys. for Windows 8 Start, App shortcut, Keyboard launch.
Stylus silo. Stereo 1.5W speakers. Software amp or graphic EQ to make louder if needed.
Comes with nothing but the OS, gigabyte selected software and hardware accessories.
Water convection cooling. Pipe with water travels up from CPU to top of tablet goes all around extremes of tablet to get cool. Passes by small (creatively designed) air vents along the way. Returns to CPU heat sink. Valves control so that water can only flow in one direction. No fans.
So members... If you had the choice which tablet would you buy? What changes would you make?
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As another idea how about Optical interfaces for HDD's rather than the present SATA/IDE cable set up? A thin fibre optical cable from the HDD to a socket on the motherboard, would help with airflow through the chassis and more information and, at a faster rate, could be transmitted than the current technology allows.
Fibre Channel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibre_Channel) is widely used on servers. Boot the OS from SAS or SSD and all your main storage is on FC connected drives in another part of the room - or in another building. The main performance benefit of optical is distance, but electrical interfaces can be made faster than current SATA standards, so no need to replace internal SATA with optical interfaces. Having a tidy chassis is nice, but I tend to find that it is the SATA power cables that are the messy ones, not the SATA data interface cables.
Fibre has it's own set of problems - special tools to terminate, minimum bending radius limitations.
What I'd like to see... a low power consumption ARM CPU based motherboard. Sort of like a Raspberry Pi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi) on steroids. But perhaps supporting the ARMv7 / hard floating point chips. Unlike the Raspberry Pi, the board should expandable to add memory and various storage/interface devices. Apart from the people that want to run some Linux distribution or Android, there is the HTPC market wanting a small, low power, fanless device.
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Here we go :
Why Gigabyte add as example an marvell chipset(GA-790-FXTA/GA-990FXA) which cant be used with expected speed or for Raid if you even use the AMD Raid at the same time if you try to do it so ?
Please fix these issues anyway first, after that your forum will be fullfilled of : I reaaaaly LOVE Gigabyte, my next board will be again from Gigabyte and now i drink a Coffe before that Chilled beer !!
Please just fullfill your promises at Hardware Specifications first, before adding something new!