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Questions about GIGABYTE products => Motherboards with AMD processors => Topic started by: jimdot on October 22, 2011, 01:48:23 pm
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This is my 1st system build;
GA-990FXA-UD3 MOBO
AMD FX-8150 CPU
Corsair Hydro H60 Liquid Cooling
MSI Radeon 6870 Hawk Video card
Antec P183 case
Seasonic X-850 watt modular PSO
G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1866Mhz, 16Gb
My 1st & thereafter attempts to get a 1st time post have been fruitless. No Beeps, no posts, no display,,, Natta!
What I've done to diagnose problem;
1. Checked that I had all required power plugged into the right places(to the very best of my knowledge anyway). Unplugged & re plugged in each. No Beeps, no posts, no display,,, Natta!
2. Pulled all memory, repower up. No Beeps, no posts, no display,,, Natta!
3. Put 1 8GB memory stick back in. No Beeps, no posts, no display,,, Natta!
4. Powered off unplugged PSU & cleared CMOS. Powered back up. No Beeps, no posts, no display,,, Natta!
5. Powered back off/unplugged PSU, removed CMOS battery, let sit for 2 minutes, put battery back in, powered back up. No Beeps, no posts, no display,,, Natta!
8. Case fans, PWM fans & video card fans are up & spinning just fine. Front USB ports are working with a cheap set of speaker. So I can hear any beeps ... if they ever occur. There is a power light on 1 of the speakers so I know they are getting power from the USB 2.0 ports.
This leads me to believe that the Mobo is bad or the CPU is bad, but being a 1st time builder maybe I haven't done enough checking. Could anyone help me out here with any more suggestion, anything else I could check. I'm pulling my hair out, what's left of it that is. LOL!!
Thanks in advance!!
Jim
Dayton, Ohio
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Hi there,
I know how frustrating this kind of thing can be, especially as it's your first build!
To hear the POST Beeps you need to attach a small speaker/buzzer to the motherboard header.
You might want to look through this thread: http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,5704.msg45814.html#msg45814 where I go through putting a new system together as it may give you some ideas of things to try.
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Are you sure that you have plugged in the 12v EATX connection near the CPU as well as the 24 pin connector on the motherboard ?
As absic said make sure that you have a buzzer connected to the F_PANEL connector on the motherboard. By the way the Buzzers (piezo electric devices) are polarity conciuos so they must be attached the right way round to work properly.
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Hi,
Most chassis have a speaker/buzzer as part of the package, I would be surprised if yours hasn't.
The graphic below shows the various connectors but no speaker/buzzer
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/antec_p183/images/33.htm
If this is the case then this might be an option:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812201032
Teknology9
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I have my front panel audio connected and a small speaker attached to the port their. That should work, shouldn't it? Besides, speaker or no speaker I'm not even getting a post screen to display.
Thanks for everyones help,
Jim
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Most chassis have a speaker/buzzer as part of the package, I would be surprised if yours hasn't.
Teknology9
I would argue that point with you nowadays. To be fair at one time you were totally correct and all cases came with a speaker attached but in these last few years that seems to be less and less the case. Sometimes a buzzer will be included or with the motherboard kit.
I have my front panel audio connected and a small speaker attached to the port their. That should work, shouldn't it? Besides, speaker or no speaker I'm not even getting a post screen to display.
Thanks for everyones help,
Jim
No I am afraid it wouldn't work with your speaker as you imagine but as you say unless you pass or fail POST there is not any sound anyway.
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Try putting the basic PC components together on a cardboard box to make sure you haven't got a short being caused by the PC case.
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Well, may I've been fortunate DM. I had a Coolermaster Sileo 500 that had a speaker/buzzer and my NZXT Phantom came with one also, looks like I was lucky then.
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I knew taking everything back out of the case was another avenue to try, I was just avoiding it as a last resort. Ha! I have another person over on overclocker telling me that I have to apply a BIOS update in order for my mobo to work with new bulldozer CPU. I bought my mobo(see previous) because I thought it was supposed to work with the new bulldozer chips out of the box. Things are getting clear as mud as I move along here. Anyone know anything about this?
PS: Yes I have pluged the atx cpu power in.
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Well, may I've been fortunate DM. I had a Coolermaster Sileo 500 that had a speaker/buzzer and my NZXT Phantom came with one also, looks like I was lucky then.
Yes there are exception obviously and the cases you picked are good quality and probably more generous with the accessories than most makes.
I knew taking everything back out of the case was another avenue to try, I was just avoiding it as a last resort. Ha! I have another person over on overclocker telling me that I have to apply a BIOS update in order for my mobo to work with new bulldozer CPU. I bought my mobo(see previous) because I thought it was supposed to work with the new bulldozer chips out of the box. Things are getting clear as mud as I move along here. Anyone know anything about this?
PS: Yes I have pluged the atx cpu power in.
What BIOS version are you running at the moment ? also what revision is your board ? ( Sorry absic we must have posted at the same time!)
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Hi again,
you need to be running BIOS F3 for the Rev 1.0 and Rev 1.1 versions of this board and BIOS version FB for the Rev 1.2 version.
If you are running an earlier version then you will need a supported CPU to update the BIOS first. Sorry, but I had assumed that this board would take the Bulldozer CPU's out-of-the-box so I hadn't considered this as a possibility
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The bord is Rev 1, but since I can't even get to a bios post I have no idea what the version number is in the BIOS. I used my curren't system to download the BIOS updates & apply them once I had the new machine at least up to a BIOS screen, but that isn't happening now so I am stuck with buying a cheap am3 socket cpu just to be able to update the bios on the new mobo inorder to use my new bulldozer chip. Do I have this right?
Darn thing is I'll never use the temp cpu again after that.
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Yes, I'm afraid that's about the size of it. Unless you know someone who is running an AMD system that will let you borrow their CPU to run the BIOS update.
Another option is to see if a local PC store can help you out. They may make a small charge for doing this but it is worth a try.
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Well sounds like it's pretty well confirmed since you & the person over on Overclockers are telling me the same thing. Didn't think this BIOS thing would stop it dead in it's tracks. Figured the CPU would still work, but maybe just not have quite all the features available. Seems misleading by Gigabyte to advertise this board as AM3+ ready when it really isn't without the BIOS update. Something just doesn't seem right here. What's your feelings? Thanks for the idea of checking out a local PC store though. I will give that a try 1st thing Monday morning.
I really appreciate everyones input on this issue
Jim
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The PC store is a good idea of absic's but it would still be better if you could just borrow an older chip off a friend to run the update.
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Hi again,
part of the problem is that these motherboards were released quite sometime before the Bulldozer FX CPU's came out and therefore needed a BIOS update once the final CPU code for the AM3+ Processors came along. I agree, that this should have been made clearer in the details for the motherboards.
The inability to run new processors without a BIOS update is quite common and applies to all motherboard manufacturer's. I have encountered this issue on a variety of boards and learnt long ago to keep a low end CPU just for the purpose of updating BIOS. Only problem with this is, I have to keep checking which of the cheaper CPU's are supported to make sure I have one that will work. :P
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Absic, It has been suggested to me to purchase the AMD Sempron 130 Sargas for 30 bucks over at NewEgg to get me thru this. Could I get your opinion?
Thanks again for all the correspondence & helping me out with this problem today. You have been a real help. It's been an education for me that's for sure.
Have a super day!!!
Jim
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Hi Jim,
sorry to say that the Sempron 130 is not a supported CPU for your motherboard. If you could get a Sempron 140 that would work.
For a full list of supported CPU's check Here: http://uk.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=3894 you need one that will work with the F1 BIOS (your motherboard was probably shipped with F2 BIOS)
You do need to weigh up the cost of a "spare" CPU against the possible cost of getting it done by a local store or the free option of borrowing an AMD CPU from a freind.
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Dark Mantis,
I hear what your saying, but I don't know anyone who would have an AM3 sockit CPU to borrow from.
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Absic,
I found a reliable local store that said they could do it for me Monday for $34.00. Doesn't sound too bad. Once the BIOS is updated I shouln't have any problems with future BIOS updates, correct?
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Hi Jim,
Yes, once the BIOS has been updated you should be fine. I would recommend syncing the Back-up BIOS chip so they both have the same version, just in case there are any issues in the future and you need to use the back-up version.
To synch the BIOS chip, once you have the system up and running you will need to start up the PC and press the "ALT+F12" keys immediately, in the same way that you would enter BIOS. This make take several attempts before the key strokes are registered and, if possible, it is better to do this using a P/S2 keyboard rather than a USB one. When the process starts it is automatic and you just need to follow the on-screen instructions.
To check the BIOS versions on the two BIOS chips, go to the BIOS Home screen and then press the F9 key, this brings up a sub-menu (read only) which will give you this information along with other system details.
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Well I BIG thanks once again, Absic!! What is you background if you don't mind that I ask? Mine was Software Develpement for 37 years amongst be 2nd level tech support all corporate windows desktop along with being a part time as needed DBA.
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No problem with asking but not sure if you will believe the answer. :D
I'm self taught and got into building PC's because I wanted to set-up a home recording studio and was sold a lump of doggy doo doo that was supposed to be perfect for what I wanted. It cost me nearly £2,500 and was hopeless and was no more than what I would consider a fairly good Home/Office PC. I met a guy and he told me I would do better to build my own and that he would help me, which he did and I have never looked back. He now telephones and ask me for advice! :D
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Another question about BIOS updates. I am assuming that each version encompases all previous versions. Would that be correct?
Absic. I believe you. Much of what I have learned over the years has been through the technique of "Baptism by fire"!! :D
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Yes each BIOS update has all the best bitsa of the versions before it. There is no need to update in a version by version manor, however if you have to make a big jump between two versions then it is a good idea to make it in a couple of stages.
Learning from your mistakes is the only real way to learn. That way the knowledge sticks much more than what has been learnt from a book.
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Hi Jim,
yes, you are almost correct about BIOS updates encompassing previous versions. Sometimes though, when a BIOS is updated certain features can be removed or altered. A lot depends on the revisions being made and the amount of space on the BIOS chip.
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Next question please. How are BIOS updates applied if you have no OS to execute them from?
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It is best to use the BIOS utility QFlash to run the update. This will work on it's own without the need for an OS. In fact this way is far superior to the @BIOS program which is the OS version of the update utility. In fact we are always trying to steer people away from using @BIOS because of it's apptitude to fail and cause corrupted BIOSes.
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As DM has said we always recommend using QFlash or FLASHSPI for updating the BIOS. If you're not sure of how to update the BIOS using QFlash check out the FAQ found here: http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,2441.msg13929.html#msg13929 which goes through the process.
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Okay. Got it. Thanks again to Absic & Dark Mantis for all the help