AMD Phenom II X4 960T Black Edition o/c

[agros]

This story about good fab/good period looks like joke, does afficial amd admits it?

don't forget that it won't lower its voltage and will remain at 1,475v...

lower by who?.. I m the one who raise voltage from defailt 1,35 to 1,47.
Its manual job, not auto.

[DarkstaR]

It isn't a story (good fab/good period) and it is known by every GOOD overclocker since october 2004 (first A64 produced).
AMD have never spoken about that it's in fact overclockers who tested several samples and went to this conclusion 
And concerning lowering voltage i do know that you've done it manually but the aim when attempting to do a good overclock is to achieve to reach high frequencies with the lowest possible voltage...and as i know that you know that zosma core doesn't lower its voltage even when cool and quiet is enabled i just think it's odd that you want to run with such a power demanding configuration 

[agros]

Ok, I m sure its a rumor, probably created by Intel's fans  

When I o/c its not forever, only when I need more power for a certain amount of time. For the rest of the time I want low temps and low wattage. That leads to a totally silent system

That Vantage bench will give a score that also depend on card? Because mine is average (9800gt green).
Download link?

[DarkstaR]

I don't think it is an urban legend it is known by every hardware lover 
3dmark vantage depends on cpu and graphics card but at the end when the result appears we can see the detailled score (cpu apart from graphics)
So here is the download link http://www.3dmark.com/3dmarkvantage/ but be careful to run this bench your vga must be able to support dx10, just check for your gainward 
So have you removed your mugen in order to check your cpu batch my guy ?

[agros]

Can u give the exact link? I tried but download some patch... what is the size?

About the legend, I m sure 100% its a legend, its just that u accept what u hear if happens to have the "right" model 

Of cource my vga has Dx10, I said its average, not old. I prefered a vga with PhysX than Dx11, plus that its green(no extra power connector).

Legend or no legend, there is no way to remove the heavy sink just to read the letters

[DarkstaR]

I've just clicked on my own link for trying and there's no way to mistake  just click at the bottom right on "basic edition free download" and then just follow the instructions... it's reachable for everyone (even my 12 years old young neighbour).
So you shouldn't have any problem as your gainward supports dx10... what a pity that you are too lazy for removing your mugen heatsink we would have been able to compare our cpus... so it doesn't matter...
Good bench ! 

[agros]

I need a couple of hours to open pc, remove mobo out, change paste etc, and all these for something that I dont believe it. Its not logic to exist "good" models and "bad" models...

I just run that 3D Mark Vantage 1.1.0
the score is P5687, but this is about the graphics card, right?
Here is the result page--> http://3dmark.com/3dmv/3771341
Theres a cpu score--> 10141 in native 960T's function, whats yours?

[DarkstaR]

So ok i've understood for your mugen removing --> to long as you must be obliged to get your mainboard from the case off... it doesn't matter...but just inquire around you this is not a legend it really exists (good and bad period) !! Ask absic forumer   And for the results i've already published them in the previous page just see... i have scored on 4 cores configuration at 4ghz and scored on 5 cores at 3,8ghz let's compare... you have a small score because of your legacy graphics card... but don't worry i know that it does its job for what you want...
Now just try to unlock your 960T...maybe you will be lucky and will be able to enable the 6 cores !! If right just bench on 3dmarkvantage to compare your result with mine  

[agros]

Ok, this 3dmark Vantage is for card bench. I wonder whats the difference with 3dmark06 (exept the speed, Vantage took me about only 4 min to complete).
I asked about your pc score with default timing(3.0GHz).
Powerfull cards are for children who play games 24hours per day
 
My score in 3.9GHz is 5849 and cpu score is 12802 ---> http://3dmark.com/3dmv/3775380
Lets make it clear, tell me your 3dmark Vantage cpu score with 4 cores in 3.0 and 3.9GHz to compare with my scores, 10141 and 12802.
My 960T is not unlockable, as I saw... Not too bad cause I want to remain in 95W and in low temps

Btw, the other day I also tried the new PCMark7, maybe u d like to try it too. Gave me 2252 points in 3.8GHz --> http://3dmark.com/pcm7/238716

[Dark Mantis]

Just tried it on my i7 920 and got 3866 at stock if you are interested.

[agros]

Which program? And whats your card.
Its pointless to compare different devices.

If u have a monster of 1500W and 1000dB noisy, I guess u ll really  get a score of 1 billion  

[cchaos]

Just tried it on my i7 920 and got 3866 at stock if you are interested.

Just tried it on mine all stock. Seems that mine isnt as far behind as I thought: http://3dmark.com/3dmv/3777357

Only the graphics appear to let it down: http://3dmark.com/healthcheck/3dmv/3777357

[DarkstaR]

Powerful video cards are not only made for no life and 24/24 players... they are also made for those who in spite of working very much want to play 4 hours a week for pleasure... and no i won't post results of 3dmark vantage with my 960t at stock and at 4ghz like you because the results for the cpu score will be the same as our cpus are the same... the interest surely is to compare when o/c have been made with different frequencies or unlocked cores in order to have an idea whether such frequencies are good or not or whether unlocking 1 or 2 extracores really bring benefits or not...besides i've spent much time to succeed in unlocking the 5th core and trying to o/c my cpu and now i'm satisfied of my results and i won't mess in bios again... but i've downloaded pcmark7 and i will post my results soon 

[agros]

Yes, I d like to play 4 or more hours per week too, but I dont see good games anymore
Today games have very good graphics but poor gameplay. No any hl2, far cry, doom3 or flatout2 in these ages. Just garbage and garbage.
So I now prefer to play online games and Mame.

i won't post results of 3dmark vantage with my 960t at stock and at 4ghz like you because the results for the cpu score will be the same as our cpus are the same...

Dont be so sure. Your score will be bigger because of your better card. Card effects score, I think.
You can run it with 4 cores in 3.0 and in 3.9GHz, u wont lose much time from your life

[DarkstaR]

Wohh Agros you've joined my way of thinking --> 4-5 hours of games per week is a good average !! It's clear Doom3 is must for me and its extension of course.. i hope that activision will make a 4 version  Nowadays i think there are good games too: the legacy Elderscrolls IV and now the fantastic Skyrim plus Fallout 3 and its extensions are for me the must !!
And concerning the change of my settings in order to bench in 3dmark vantage at 3ghz and 3,9ghz @ x4 cores i still don't want even tough i won't spend much time in my life to do that as i've posted my scores in 5 cores mode and i've spoken about the CPU score which won't change as our cpus are the same and not about the global score...
Besides i've finished benching at pcmark 7 and here are my results with my settings: x5 @ 3,33ghz (14,5x230) and 3,56ghz in tbc mode (15,5x230)
--> http://3dmark.com/pcm7/239270