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Graphics Card Compatability
« on: May 13, 2013, 12:29:27 pm »
Hi folks. I'm a bit out of my depth in this area.

I was going to upgrade my, (now rather dated,) NVidia 9800 GT to a new 600 series card, probably a GT 640. However,I have been advised against it as I was told my motherboards BIOS probably would not support it.

I am currently using a GA-M52L-S3P (rev 1.0) motherboard and have just updated the BIOS using @BIOS.

So my question is, what NVidia cards can this board support?

Thanks in advance.

Vezina

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Re: Graphics Card Compatability
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2013, 12:42:24 pm »
Those warning relate to the PCI-E version of the board and video card used.

If the VGA BIOS is smartly made you will have no issues ,but if it s not you may not see any image.

It all depends on the manufacturer of the video card.

Get the card from a store where you can send it back if it doesn t work.

You should also take a look at the AMD video cards as well ,who knows which ones may work better  :)

Furthermore keep in mind that your mobo is quite an outdated one and so must be the CPU.
Adding a new video card in a weak environment may not bring performance increases.

Overall i would say you need to upgrade mobo + CPU + video card.
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Re: Graphics Card Compatability
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2013, 02:30:24 am »
Thanks for the speedy reply.

Upgrading the Graphics Card, (and doubling the RAM,) are stop-gap measures until I can afford to replace everything. Frankly, by the time I have got a new MOBO, CPU and Graphics card, I may as well build a new rig.

I'm running an AMD Phenom 9650 Quad-Core 2.3GHz at present, and I think it will hold up ok for a nother year or so. I'm not after amazing performance or anything. And as I said, it's a stop-gap.

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Re: Graphics Card Compatability
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2013, 04:58:34 pm »
I think the strategy is not right :)

If the video card still works you would gain more from upgrading to a new FM2 motherboard + some quad FM2 APU/CPU.Sell what you have add the money for the new video card and switch to USB 3.0 ,SATA 3 ,PCI-E 2.1 and so on in a blink of an eye.

This is why :
-Getting a new video card that will be fed with data by that lazy CPU will mean no gains of performance.
-DDR 2 is outdated and slower that DDR 3 and not cheaper
-FM 2 uses less power
-FM 2 is a socket that will last so you can upgrade to a better APU if needed in the next years.

On short don t be surprised if by upgrading to a new video card and more DDR 2 RAM you will only waste money with no substantial increase in performance ,with the risk of the new card not to work.
If you add more sticks of DDR 2 RAM you will also notice a drop in memory frequency (due to the lazy IMC in the Phenom)  which will make the more amount of RAM useless as well  :)
« Last Edit: May 14, 2013, 05:01:13 pm by Vezina »
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AMD FX (APU-s included) users should install - KB2645594 & KB2646060 under Windows 7

1.ASUS Sabertooth 990FX 2.0 + FX 6300 + H60
2.MSI A88X-G41 PC Mate + A8 5600K + Hyper TX 2
3.Gigabyte F2A75-D3H + A4 5300
4.ASUS AM1M-A + Athlon 5150

Re: Graphics Card Compatability
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2013, 09:52:32 pm »
My entire budget is in the £80 mark. I cannot do all that with that meager budget. I intend to replace everything asap, but that is going to take time. as I said, it's a stop gap.

My initial question still remains though, "What cards are compatable?"

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Re: Graphics Card Compatability
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2013, 10:09:26 pm »
Select a store that allows you to send back the product with no questions asked ,buy what you want and see if it works.
If in my crap country i can find such stores i am sure you can do it in the UK too  :)

If it doesn t work  send it back and wait until you get the money to get some APU based rig ,the best value available.
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Re: Graphics Card Compatability
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2013, 11:20:25 am »
Greetings,

Regarding the gt 640 card, I found this reference.  Read down about half way to the nvidia discussion.

http://www.overclock.net/a/the-final-answer-to-the-controversial-pcie-x16-version-compatibility

eg, your card should work on the 1.1 pci-e 16 interface your mb probably has

Be well,

Kim
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Re: Graphics Card Compatability
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2013, 10:40:15 am »
Thanks Timmib. That was the sort of answer I was after.

Finding a supplier in the UK that will allow me to return a component that is not faulty is extremely difficult. Basically, if the part is ok, they wont accept it back. So when I buy a part, I want to know for sure it will work.