X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems

[fatbobuk]

I thinl it is just cant live without my PC for that long

Retailer reckons max 28 days

Last time i RMA.d something it was 6 weeks 

[Dark Mantis]

Fatbob I still think that there is quite a possibilty that you have bent pins on your socket. I have just been back through your initial thread and it would certainly seem probable. You have all the indicators. Can you take some macro photos of the socket so we can see properly?

[Lsdmeasap]

Give me your full current settings and I will advise back, please also include your full specs and a link to your memory again so I don't have to hunt it down.   Thanks.

Here is a link to a template for you to give me your settings.
http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte/33613-gigabyte-bios-templates-give-us-your-settings.html

I'd say let me try to help with settings before you RMA as it's may just be incorrect settings.

Also, as mentioned above, if you have your CPU out socket pics would be great so we aren't wasting time troubleshooting or messing with settings when you have bent socket pins.

[fatbobuk]

Definately not the pins.

Had it out twice to look. Whilst faffing the second time I caught a pin and bent it.

So had to fecking straighten one

This only happened at weekend will post settings in a minute.....

Will have to reboot to check.

[fatbobuk]

X58UD3R Ver2
i7 930 Titan Fenrir Cooler
6Gb Corsair Dominator TR3X6G16008D G
Zotac GTX480 ( Tried in and out )
Asus 8800GT ( tried in and out )
1050watt OCZ PSU
250Gb WD HDD OS on this
500Gb Samsung HDD
1Tb Samsung HDD

Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [22x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Enabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled] << Disabled if you do not use Vmware or Virtual PC Programs
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]


Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed ..............................Auto [4.8Ghz]
Uncore Frequency ..........................Auto
Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]


Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Disabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) .....................133
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [100]

C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [12]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Auto]

Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ......................
tRCD .......................................
tRP .........................................
tRAS .......................................

Below values may be left in Auto if you like, generally this is fine.  For those users who DO Set advanced timings manually, please see some of my thoughts and findings about these settings and rules here
XtremeSystems Forums - View Single Post - Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread

##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
tRC ........................................  (Should be = tRAS + tRP or above for stability)
tRRD .......................................
tWTR ...................................... (Must be Write to Read Delay/Same Rank - (tWL + 4)
tWR ........................................
tWTP .......................................   (tWTP Must = tWR + tWL + 4)
tWL ........................................    (tWL Must be CAS Latency -1)
tRFC .......................................
tRTP .......................................
tFAW ......................................
Command Rate (CMD) ................

##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
Round Trip Latency ...................

B2B CAS Delay ..........................


Advanced Voltage Control:

CPU
Load Line Calibration ................. [standard]
CPU Vcore ...............................[auto] 1.25625
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............
CPU PLL 1.800v .......................

MCH/ICH
PCIE 1.500v ...........................
QPI PLL 1.100v .......................
IOH Core 1.100v .....................
ICH I/O 1.500v .......................
ICH Core 1.1v ........................

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............1.64
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

These are the enhanced Default settings from Bios FA
I use these same settings in FB.
But to enter these after flashing to FB I have to clear CMOS to stand a chance of checking or changing the settings.
Then sfte cold boot it goes back to 10 minute boot ups. If I add volts or change settingsa it boots fien then produces BSOD

[Lsdmeasap]

Definately not the pins.

Had it out twice to look. Whilst faffing the second time I caught a pin and bent it.

So had to fecking straighten one

This only happened at weekend will post settings in a minute.....

Will have to reboot to check.

Next time pics please, thanks! 

[Lsdmeasap]

BIOS FC1 is out now, it may be best for you to use that.

Here is some general setting advice for your setup using the settings you posted.

Also, when you get a BSOD, please try to make a note of what code it is.   It will look like this on the BSOD screen 0x00000124, or once back in windows it will show you the last 3 digits in a dialog when windows starts.

BSOD Error codes and what they mean:
0X00000050 << Incorrect Memory Timing/Freq or Uncore Multi
0X00000124 << Incorrect QPI/Vtt Voltage (To Much/Not Enough)
0X00000101 << Not enough Vcore Voltage
0X00000109 << Not enough or too Much memory voltage


Can you please provide me a link to your memory, either where you bought it or at Corsair's site.   Thanks, I can't find it at Corsair.

Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [22x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Enabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled] << Disabled if you do not use Vmware or Virtual PC Programs
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]


Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed ..............................Auto [4.8Ghz]  << Set x36 or X48 (Higher only ok to use at stock Bclk)
Uncore Frequency ..........................Auto  << Set x24-26 for x12 memory multiplier
Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]


Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Disabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) .....................133
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [100]

C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard]  < Extreme may be best
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [12]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Auto]  << Set Expert, then set each channels MAIN timings and Command Rate one by one.

Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ......................
tRCD .......................................
tRP .........................................
tRAS .......................................

Set the above 4 timings to the spec listed on your ram sticker, sorry I can't find it that is why I asked above.


All below Auto, expect CMD Rate

##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
tRC ........................................  (Should be = tRAS + tRP or above for stability)
tRRD .......................................
tWTR ...................................... (Must be Write to Read Delay/Same Rank - (tWL + 4)
tWR ........................................
tWTP .......................................   (tWTP Must = tWR + tWL + 4)
tWL ........................................    (tWL Must be CAS Latency -1)
tRFC .......................................
tRTP .......................................
tFAW ......................................
Command Rate (CMD) ................   << Set 1T

##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
Round Trip Latency ...................

B2B CAS Delay ..........................


Advanced Voltage Control:

CPU
Load Line Calibration ................. [standard]
CPU Vcore ...............................[auto] 1.25625
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............ << Set 1.25-1.35+ All depends on your CPU, auto is not advised.
CPU PLL 1.800v .......................

MCH/ICH
PCIE 1.500v ...........................
QPI PLL 1.100v .......................
IOH Core 1.100v ..................... Auto or 1.14 should be fine
ICH I/O 1.500v .......................
ICH Core 1.1v ........................

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............1.64  << This is 1.63 or less actual, so you may want to se 1.66
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

[fatbobuk]

http://corsair.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/vcode=PGCRS/partnum=TR3X6G1600C8D/__utma=1.1126936553.1284653867.1284653867.1284653867.1/__utmb=1.2.10.1284653867/__utmc=1/__utmx=-/__utmz=1.1284653867.1.1.utmcsr=google.co.uk%7Cutmccn=(referral)%7Cutmcmd=referral%7Cutmcct=/__utmv=-/__utmk=118144137/

link for the memory

[Dark Mantis]

Hey Bob that's a good price. Wish we could buy them for that over here.

[fatbobuk]

I bought them in the UK that was just a link to show the model.....

OK latest update

Updated to Fc1 BIOS
Wouldnt get bas the initial BIOS detections etc rebooted 3 times automatically.
If I pressed any key ie Tab to clear SCreen it rebooted. (these both happened in all BIOS updates )
Took ages to get past memory detect so I could enter BIOS setup.
As with all updates when BIOS setup screen comes on it flash/refreshes twice and I cannot alter any settings in MIT it crashes the BIOS.
If I load Optimized settings and reboot it takes 10-15 minutes to load windows and cannot enter BIOS setup/MIT.

If I turn off PC. Turn off Mains. Clear CMOS using button on Mobo.
Turn PC back on. It load a screen asking what Profile I want or to enter Setup.

If I enter setup I can do anything I want in Setup.
I have tried many changes and setups. But in all BIOS except FA it takes 10-15 minutes to boot to windows. But I do have the full 6Gb available.

I will strip the Mobo out of the case again after I have watched the footbal. (Man City fan and its only on ESPN or tinternet )
I will try to post a photo of the CPU socket

[absic]

I will strip the Mobo out of the case again after I have watched the footbal. (Man City fan and its only on ESPN or tinternet )

Sorry we only deal with gigabyte problems here.

For your choice of football club I guess you can always try the Samaritans.  
(I'm a Tractor Boy myself so I know all about that!)

[Dark Mantis]

I will try to post a photo of the CPU socket

Try and take several from different angles with good light but not flash.

[fatbobuk]

OK I give up its official.

Took the CPU out las night to take photo's.

Wish I hadnt now. I caught one of the pins somehow with my camera and fecking bent it 
There was definatley no bent pins before.

So I tried to straithen it the best I could in naff light.

I tried to RMA today to ARIA in Manchester.
They say the board is damaged and will not accept it for RMA.

SO I now have £160 of doorstop !!!!!!!!
Will try agin to straighten it better but dont know if I can be bothered re building my PC for the 6th time or just go out and buy another brand of Mobo.
Luckily i hadnt sold my q6600 and 680i mobo and ram or I would of been foooked.

Thanks for all your help !!!!!!!

Dont want to spend £160 again and have to go through all this again !!!!!!!

Just messaged Gigabyte tech support and they will accept it RMA there.... Hoorah .....Fingers crossed

[Lsdmeasap]

OK I give up its official.

Took the CPU out las night to take photo's.

Wish I hadnt now. I caught one of the pins somehow with my camera and fecking bent it 
There was definatley no bent pins before.

So I tried to straithen it the best I could in naff light.

I tried to RMA today to ARIA in Manchester.
They say the board is damaged and will not accept it for RMA.

SO I now have £160 of doorstop !!!!!!!!
Will try agin to straighten it better but dont know if I can be bothered re building my PC for the 6th time or just go out and buy another brand of Mobo.
Luckily i hadnt sold my q6600 and 680i mobo and ram or I would of been foooked.

Thanks for all your help !!!!!!!

Dont want to spend £160 again and have to go through all this again !!!!!!!

Just messaged Gigabyte tech support and they will accept it RMA there.... Hoorah .....Fingers crossed

Sorry to hear!!   I always hate asking for socket images because of this reason, happened more than a few times, but we have to ask otherwise people spend weeks troubleshooting with no positive outcome because of bent pins that no one has checked yet.

Nice to see Gigabyte will RMA for you, did you tell them pins were bent?

[fatbobuk]

Got mobo back from RMA

They repaired the bent pins for me PHEWWWWW

But unfortunately all the same problems exist

Havent resorted back to FA yet to see if RAM problem still exists but after cold restart all the old problems are back.

When I rebuilt PC it booted up great with FC1 BIOS that I had installed before RMA and after a cuple of restarts it still booted great.
I thought it was all fixed

After a overnight powerdown a cold restart today and Im back to square 1. Only clearing the CMOS allows it to boot properly and access to BIOS options