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LGA2011 and X79 ... When,When When ... Pant,Pant!

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Re: LGA2011 and X79 ... When,When When ... Pant,Pant!
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2011, 06:38:07 pm »


  You didn't pick-up on it.......it said "Liquid cooling"... not "Water Cooling" ..... Effectively liquid metal (or Sodium blend)..... no motor as such, ... no moving part, ... the Fluid becomes the rotor in a sense .... and the highly efficient heat transfer medium . ;)

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Re: LGA2011 and X79 ... When,When When ... Pant,Pant!
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2011, 07:20:34 pm »


Yes, I meant liquid cooling, fully sealed units so no leakage I prefer air cooling but I suppose it depends how much heat the cpu generates and liquid cooling may be required. I hear it's the latest state of the art and the most contempory cooling solution the avid PC enthusiast could choose today. :)
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Re: LGA2011 and X79 ... When,When When ... Pant,Pant!
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2011, 07:46:39 pm »


  You didn't pick-up on it.......it said "Liquid cooling"... not "Water Cooling" ..... Effectively liquid metal (or Sodium blend)..... no motor as such, ... no moving part, ... the Fluid becomes the rotor in a sense .... and the highly efficient heat transfer medium . ;)

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If that's the case Allan why are there PWM cables connected to the motor ?
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Re: LGA2011 and X79 ... When,When When ... Pant,Pant!
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2011, 10:31:05 pm »

This thread is temporarily closed ....... while research is done to provide the answers for some very tough critics .....

  Must be careful  with answers .... do not want anymore liable suits for product disclosure  ;D

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Re: LGA2011 and X79 ... When,When When ... Pant,Pant!
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2011, 12:39:36 am »

  Thread open again ..Tee Hee!

  Well the research is painful so No long answers tonight folks , but I will say this!

  Think of it like this .......lets forget for a sec about Thermodynamics, solid state fluid motors, Gallium and sodium liquid compounds and concentrate on a few facts!

  liquid metal can have an effective thermal conductivity 10 to 100 times the thermal conductivity of copper ....FACT!

 Copper is 668 times more thermally conductive then pure water....FACT!

  Water ...0.6 [W/(m·K)] ...Copper ...401 [W/(m·K)] Air ...0.025.....FACT!

         Now for all those water cooling Guru's out there, tell me this , ..  ...... We have a CPU with a confirmed heat-load rating of 130Watts .. :o....... One 140mm x140mm x40mm Rad and attached fan rated at about 2000RPM .... and I'm going to be really optimistic and say we have a 200ml capacity

                                  Who thinks that the above toy list could overcome the heat load with just pure water in the loop    ;)

  More answers over the next couple of days.........................Aussie Allan
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Re: LGA2011 and X79 ... When,When When ... Pant,Pant!
« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2011, 08:30:02 am »

   Who thinks that the above toy list could overcome the heat load with just pure water in the loop    ;)


Intel I guess otherwise they wouldn't have a pump with power leads going to it!
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Re: LGA2011 and X79 ... When,When When ... Pant,Pant!
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2011, 09:57:23 am »

Hello Allan,

Why not do a write up on how you put together your X79 based system when you get it, absic did a very good one , and I'm sure other forum members would be interested.

Here's some more information on that platform:

http://legitreviews.com/article/1711/1/

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Re: LGA2011 and X79 ... When,When When ... Pant,Pant!
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2011, 10:18:41 am »

  DM,DM,DM .... Those wires have really got your goat going , haven't they :D ..... even a solid-state magnetic pump (motor) requires an external power source, (usually through wires) .......... Bar having a pump to cut open I can't emphatically prove it either way.....

  But I can try and explain my logic ...... up for some patent reading ....http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20100066178

  Or a bit more about the properties and applications ....http://www.yet2.com/app/insight/techofweek/53935?sid=200

  Or some downright Just good fun and some really cool stuff you can do with liquid metals ... http://sci-toys.com/scitoys/scitoys/thermo/liquid_metal/liquid_metal.html

  Look at the size of the CPU sink being installed with the unit in question ... considering you have a cold plate and outer casing and what ....12 to 15mm high ... to fit a mechanical, high Performance Hydraulic  pump, Circuitry (PCB) and a barrier between the two cavities ::)

  Look I've been wrong before BUT! there's a lot of Gray areas here that points to ....at the very least a fluid that is not pure H2O and the real possibility that solid state (No moving parts) are being utilized with a metallized fluid.

  Aussie Allan             P.S If anyone wants some reading on the subject .... I've got stacks ;)
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Re: LGA2011 and X79 ... When,When When ... Pant,Pant!
« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2011, 11:11:15 am »
I accept that you could be correct and there is nothing magical about the process you are describing I know. Maybe you are right and that is what is hiding inside there but I wil be surprised. Time will tell.... and a chainsaw!!!

It sounds a little cheap for the technology if you are correct. I would have expected it to be more expensive especially if Intel is involved as they aren't known for their rolling out of reasonably priced goods.
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Re: LGA2011 and X79 ... When,When When ... Pant,Pant!
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2011, 11:49:39 am »


  At a 130W Effectively they have a very big problem to be addressed  with Air alone and or even heatPipe/Air .... what they needed was a solution that broaches into what I call the "idiot factor" were even an Australian or Frenchman (no offense Pierre) can't get it wrong!

  After the fiasco of the G5 thermal problems even with off the shelf water kits , it seems Intel learn't from Apples mistakes.

  Love them or hate them .... with cold blooded efficiency , Intel have turned it around , fobbed off the business to third party manufactures, introduced Fluid cooling to the masses and come out the other side with a winning solution to the problem and no liability on the cooling side ..... you gotta take your hat off to them!

  P.S ....DM! .... if that was an offer.....I have a chain-saw if you supply the cooler  :o

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Re: LGA2011 and X79 ... When,When When ... Pant,Pant!
« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2011, 12:54:14 pm »


  Engineering samples (10 of them ) are up for sale on a Chinese web-site as of Yesterday GMT ... $2000US a pop!

  Any takers ?

  http://news.softpedia.com/news/Intel-Core-i7-3960X-Extreme-Edition-Listed-in-Chinese-Store-222309.shtml


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Re: LGA2011 and X79 ... When,When When ... Pant,Pant!
« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2011, 01:17:25 pm »
Maybe they would like to send us a review sample!  ;D
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