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Questions about GIGABYTE products => Motherboards with AMD processors => Topic started by: RPaulG87 on June 23, 2010, 09:44:27 am

Title: Gigabyte 890GA UD3H, can't over clock or change settings anymore?
Post by: RPaulG87 on June 23, 2010, 09:44:27 am
This is beyond strange, I have been running this board with a 750w PSU (Corsair) a 1090T Phenom II @ 4ghz (1.45v) and a GTX 480 and 8gb of Mushkin Ridgeback for almost the past month. Today I take the card out as I had to test a 4870 that I was selling, the only issue that happened was the 4870 when I turned the computer on, wasn't fully locked into the pci slot (which I fixed afterwards). the PCI-E slot works fine, and the 2nd and 1st one don't make a difference, however, after putting back in the GTX 480, my previous rock-solid overclock has been completed eliminated, won't post it all which is odd because it is 100% stable, I can't even SLIGHTLY over clock, and if I adjust the voltage on the ram and the timings, I get the same bios overclocking error message, I literally can't change a thing without this happening.

What would cause this? I was grounded and standing on anti-static bags, as well as constantly touching the case, so I doubt it's static damage, I've reset the CMOS and taken the battery out, no change, still won't over clock, I've even flashed to FB and back to FBc, still can't over clock, it's as if the motherboard is in some "safe" mode preventing the user from changing anything, any ideas? It runs perfectly fine on "stock" (Crap) settings, but I can't even get my ram to run at it's right speed, let alone get my performance back...what's up?

I just managed to trick it after exiting bios multiple multiple times so it didn't power reset each time, and it's STABLE when it's loaded, but for some reason the motherboard in POST is saying it's not stable now, for no reason at all...makes no sense O.o I'm going to have to fight this thing for hours each time I restart if it stays like this -.- it's a 100% stable proven OC and ram settings for the past month, and now voila, moody (or messed up) motherboard.
Title: Re: Gigabyte 890GA UD3H, can't over clock or change settings anymore?
Post by: absic on June 23, 2010, 11:36:31 am
Hi,

stupid question but have you checked all of your motherboard power connections are sitting properly?

I had a similar situation when I swapped out some components and, after much head scratching realised that the 8 pin Mobo Power connector had come loose and wasn't making full contact.

Title: Re: Gigabyte 890GA UD3H, can't over clock or change settings anymore?
Post by: Dark Mantis on June 23, 2010, 11:58:45 am
Or the ones to your power hungry graphics card ;D
Title: Re: Gigabyte 890GA UD3H, can't over clock or change settings anymore?
Post by: venganza on June 23, 2010, 01:42:46 pm
Be an idea to nuke whatever tool you are clocking the GPU with, and check nothing remains in registry or "special folders", sounds like software hiccup to me :)
Title: Re: Gigabyte 890GA UD3H, can't over clock or change settings anymore?
Post by: RPaulG87 on June 23, 2010, 06:43:35 pm
Be an idea to nuke whatever tool you are clocking the GPU with, and check nothing remains in registry or "special folders", sounds like software hiccup to me :)

Um..this has nothing to do with windows, it's the Gigabyte bios saying a stable over-clock or even slight over-clock is unstable, when it has been 100% stable and IS stable, once I trick the bios into booting fast enough that it dosen't throw that error (very hard, took a long time and I fear it'll do it again when i restart so I haven't) it goes back to crap settings and I can't OC at all. I'm 100% stable when it boots into windows, I can throw any stress program at it, it is STABLE, just randomly after taking out the card, now my board doesn't like even the slightest of configuration changes...

I've checked all the connectors, everything is on fine, this is a bizarre issue...
Title: Re: Gigabyte 890GA UD3H, can't over clock or change settings anymore?
Post by: Dark Mantis on June 23, 2010, 06:54:33 pm
It sounds as if the card is booting too quick for the BIOS really. I am not sure if there is some setting to delay it maybe worth a look?
Title: Re: Gigabyte 890GA UD3H, can't over clock or change settings anymore?
Post by: RPaulG87 on June 24, 2010, 04:01:29 am
Ok, I have no clue what happened last night but I did almost have a heart attack over this, and spent my time from midnight to 5 a.m. messing with my motherboard (flashing, resetting cmos, taking out cards\ram) and nothing..really changed...but now it randomly works fine, even flashed back to F7c which is easily the most stable bios...so strange...I think my motherboard just went on her period or something for a few hours...
Title: Re: Gigabyte 890GA UD3H, can't over clock or change settings anymore?
Post by: Dark Mantis on June 24, 2010, 06:51:22 am
Well I am glad that yopu seem to have a working system back...and I bet so are you. The only problem when this type of thing occurs is you're left with the uneasy feeling that it could happen again at any time. Put it down to an act of god.
Title: Re: Gigabyte 890GA UD3H, can't over clock or change settings anymore?
Post by: RPaulG87 on June 24, 2010, 04:58:29 pm
Well I am glad that yopu seem to have a working system back...and I bet so are you. The only problem when this type of thing occurs is you're left with the uneasy feeling that it could happen again at any time. Put it down to an act of god.

Yup, i've found that I'm not the only one having this problem with the 890GA either, quite odd...stable settings, motherboards post thinks it isn't, well whatever, it's a 50\50, quite annoying though, maybe a new bios update should Gigabyte actually finally get on top of that, would help. The last good one was on like 5/6 (F7C) lol. I have to use Rev 1 bios even though I use Rev 2, the Rev 2's latest (5/26 FB) are awful, voltage will say "normal cpu v-core 1.3" then when you restart and go back into bios it'll be 1.4v, it fluctuates which is bizzare, and dangerous to set. Also, Caviar Black when I wake from sleep mode isn't detected with the latest REV 2 bios, AND my sound card messes up, just over-all awful bios.
Title: Re: Gigabyte 890GA UD3H, can't over clock or change settings anymore?
Post by: Dark Mantis on June 24, 2010, 05:24:36 pm
I agree, a stable BIOS is one of the most important things in the machine. Without it you have one bad fight on your hands. It might pay to remove the sound card for now though they do cause a lot of problems.
Title: Re: Gigabyte 890GA UD3H, can't over clock or change settings anymore?
Post by: RPaulG87 on June 24, 2010, 05:47:58 pm
I agree, a stable BIOS is one of the most important things in the machine. Without it you have one bad fight on your hands. It might pay to remove the sound card for now though they do cause a lot of problems.

Works fine on F7c, the older bios, I'm just saying in general, it's rather sad that this board has been out for so long, and Gigabyte still makes awful mistakes like hard drives not being detected, voltage being read wrong and setting incorrectly, and sound card woes on their new bios...
Title: Re: Gigabyte 890GA UD3H, can't over clock or change settings anymore?
Post by: Dark Mantis on June 24, 2010, 06:40:04 pm
That's quite right I can't imagine any other area of business where you could get away with selling goods that don't work and then supplying a fix that also doesn't work and so on.
Title: Re: Gigabyte 890GA UD3H, can't over clock or change settings anymore?
Post by: absic on June 25, 2010, 08:44:38 am
That's quite right I can't imagine any other area of business where you could get away with selling goods that don't work and then supplying a fix that also doesn't work and so on.

I have to agree in principal but like all Mobo manufacturers whilst Gigabyte advertises the overclocking capabilities of their boards they also clearly state that they DO NOT support overclocking. I have never really understood this contradiction and I bet if you raised this issue with them they would just say: "It works with the default settings."

Title: Re: Gigabyte 890GA UD3H, can't over clock or change settings anymore?
Post by: Dark Mantis on June 25, 2010, 08:54:29 am
That's quite right I can't imagine any other area of business where you could get away with selling goods that don't work and then supplying a fix that also doesn't work and so on.

I have to agree in principal but like all Mobo manufacturers whilst Gigabyte advertises the overclocking capabilities of their boards they also clearly state that they DO NOT support overclocking. I have never really understood this contradiction and I bet if you raised this issue with them they would just say: "It works with the default settings."


Yes I am sure that would be the official line taken. However when they advertise SATA6 and 4 times the speed of SATA2(in RAID0 mode) it isn't classed as overclocking it is a default feature of the board.
Title: Re: Gigabyte 890GA UD3H, can't over clock or change settings anymore?
Post by: absic on June 25, 2010, 09:04:32 am
True but....

this thread is about overclocking not SATA3 speeds versus SATA2 which is a different issue.
Title: Re: Gigabyte 890GA UD3H, can't over clock or change settings anymore?
Post by: Dark Mantis on June 25, 2010, 09:09:00 am
True but....

this thread is about overclocking not SATA3 speeds versus SATA2 which is a different issue.

Again you are right. ;) But i think that it is still a valid point to bring into the argument. I agree it is a little off topic but it all verges into a grey area.
Title: Re: Gigabyte 890GA UD3H, can't over clock or change settings anymore?
Post by: RPaulG87 on June 30, 2010, 12:41:51 am
Wanted to follow up and bump this, it was actually my Logitech G-15, 5 months old and already dying and it was causing the POST issues and awakeing from sleep issues, as it was causing errors. Crazy.
Title: Re: Gigabyte 890GA UD3H, can't over clock or change settings anymore?
Post by: absic on June 30, 2010, 08:16:42 am
Wanted to follow up and bump this, it was actually my Logitech G-15, 5 months old and already dying and it was causing the POST issues and awakeing from sleep issues, as it was causing errors. Crazy.

Pleased you have been able to solve the problem.

One of the reasons I usually ask other users to post their FULL system specs when they are having problems is because even a humble mouse can bring a PC to its knees!  :o

ATB