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Motherboards with AMD processors / Re: Aorus x670E Master and Bios Hell!

« Last post by CaTaPulT on March 24, 2024, 06:22:45 pm »

Hello.
I don't have a "Master" but a X670 Aorus Elite AX.
I have experimented with newer bios files and saw a slight decrease in performance, the board came with F9 bios, I tried F22b and F21. Wasn't impressed, so I rolled back to F9 and have been happy since.
I use the bios flashing option in the bios screen itself, personally, I don't trust GCC much.
I download the wanted bios file and unzip it to a USB flash drive, reboot, use the bios built in flash utility and you choose the bios file you want from the flash drive, it will then verify the integrity of the file, ask you if you want to proceed, it'll reboot and do another verify, then it will flash the new (old) bios to the board and then reboot.
Be patient during the reboot process, this can seem like the system has hung but give it a few minutes and the system will come to life once again with the newly flashed bios.
Once this is done, I normally go into the bios and choose "Load optimal settings" and save and restart. Then I go back into the bios again and set the things I need to set like EXPO, disabling onboard graphics, etc.
In the week I've had this new board, I must have changed bios'es 5 to 6 times (gigabyte support asked to for proof that F21 was slower than F9).
I use my system for VR only (Racing and Flight Sims) and every little bit of performance is needed in high res VR.
Some people are very worried about changing bios, now days it's pretty safe, only time it may be a problem is if the process is interrupted like a power outage. But then again, most boards these days have a flashback button on them (dual bios) so the board should be able to be recovered.
Take care
 
Regards: Jack

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Motherboards with Intel processors / Re: Which Z790 Aorus Xtreme X drivers

« Last post by lawrencewilliams on March 23, 2024, 11:27:15 pm »

After you install windows the first thing it does is it wants to install Gigabyte's control center Right? By chance it doesn't install the GCC download it and install it. Then just let it do it's thing. It will install the drivers you need for the board.

In the list of things it wants to install. I would uncheck like the antivirus and the Bios updated.

Sounds like a plan, thanks. Bios I'd much prefer to do From the bios itself, and antivirus is covered anyway.

I presume that it would be good practise to check the GCC again After any bios update?

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Motherboards with AMD processors / Re: X670 Aorus Elite AX 7800X3D

« Last post by CaTaPulT on March 23, 2024, 03:33:50 pm »

Hello.
Agreed, flashing bios can lead to unfortunate events.
When I purchased this board / CPU/ RAM, the shop offered to mount the CPU and RAM and test them to make sure all was well, they also mentioned they would update the bios for the board. (This way if something went wrong they can't say I screwed something up mounting the CPU). Otherwise I'd rather do it myself.
Once I fired up the system and looked at the Gigabyte site for this MB, I saw they hadn't updated the MB bios.
So After messing with the old bios (F9) for a while and running a few benchmarks, I decided to update the bios (F22b then F21) thinking it could improve things (especially speed), I was wrong, new bios was a bit slower so I rolled back to F9. System took all the bios changes well with no problems caused.
I use this system for VR only, for sim racing and also MSFS 2020, I use a Reverb G2v2 which is a higher res headset so it requires a lot of horsepower to drive it (3160 x 3092 per eye). So every little bit of extra speed I can get out of the system really helps in VR since the comfort zone is 90hz in VR (when frame rates jump up and down, it can cause discomfort (nausea)).
So I assumed new bios, better speed..... WRONG!!!! LOL
So now, I am happy with running the old F9 bios, the system has been rock solid.
Thank you for your concern however, I am quite happy to experiment with various bios and so on to get the best performance I can. I am 65 years of age and have been messing with computers since the early 80's.
I've not yet messed a system up by changing bios version on any motherboard (be it Asus, MSI or Gigabyte), maybe I've been lucky! LOL
Take care
 
Regards: Jack

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Motherboards with AMD processors / Re: X670 Aorus Elite AX 7800X3D

« Last post by dmdilks on March 22, 2024, 07:14:05 pm »

Ok Why did you update the bios because it was there. If you were not having any problems then why did you update it. The bios updates are there for people having problems. Not to update when everything working fine!!!

This is right from them:

Warning:
Because BIOS flashing is potentially risky, if you do not encounter problems using the current version of BIOS, it is recommended that you not flash the BIOS. To flash the BIOS, do it with caution. Inadequate BIOS flashing may result in system malfunction.

One thing you can try is contact support and tell them what happen. They might be able to help or maybe tell the same thing don't update the bios unless you are having a problem.

I'm not trying Smart Ass, but any time you update anything like the Bios or drivers you can have problems.


    "If it isn't broke don't fix it"

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Motherboards with AMD processors / X670 Aorus Elite AX 7800X3D

« Last post by CaTaPulT on March 21, 2024, 09:07:20 pm »

Hello.
I have to admit I'm confused.
I purchased a upgrade a few days ago of a 7800X3D, X670 Aorus Elite AX (revision 1.0), 64 gigs of G.Skill 6000 at cl-30 RAM.
The board came with F9 bios.
I tested the board, CPU and RAM all with this F9 bios to make sure all was working as it should.
Later, I updated the bios to F22b, the system was quite a bit slower with all the same bios settings and benchmarks being used.
I then tried F21 (last non beta bios) and same thing, the system was slow as compared to the F9 bios, I tried this for a couple days, it was stable but slower. I got fed up and returned to F9 bios to get the extra speed I was getting originally.
My question is this......
Is it normal for updated bios to slow the system down, shouldn't newer be faster? Am I doing something wrong?
I do have a curve optimize of -30 (all cores) on all bios I tried, F9 is still noticeably faster than F21 and F22b.
The rest of my system consists of the following.
PSU = Seasonic Vertex 1200 watt
GPU = Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC
Boot = Samsung 980 (with heat sink) NVME (PCIe 4)
CPU Cooler = Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360mm
Case = Phanteks Enthoo Pro, 200mm fan front intake, 140mm bottom intake, 140mm rear exhaust.
Various other MVME and SATA SSDs and one 2tb HDD.
Monitor = 43inch Hisense 4k TV (I don't play games on this monitor, VR instead)
Windows 10 (22H2) with all updates
 
VR = Reverb G2v2, this system was built for VR
 
Any help or insight anyone can offer would be greatly appreciated since for the life of me cannot figure why newer bios'es are slower. LOL
 
Regards: Jack

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Motherboards with Intel processors / Re: Which Z790 Aorus Xtreme X drivers

« Last post by dmdilks on March 20, 2024, 02:55:32 pm »

After you install windows the first thing it does is it wants to install Gigabyte's control center Right? By chance it doesn't install the GCC download it and install it. Then just let it do it's thing. It will install the drivers you need for the board.

In the list of things it wants to install. I would uncheck like the antivirus and the Bios updated.

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Motherboards with Intel processors / Which Z790 Aorus Xtreme X drivers

« Last post by lawrencewilliams on March 18, 2024, 08:02:38 pm »

Hi,

Splashed out on the Z790 Aorus Xtreme X, I don't need it, just decided to go for it.
Pairing it with i9-14900K, Corsair 2 x 6400 CMT64GX5M2B6400C32 ver 5.43.01, Asus Rog Strix 4090 OC.

Apart from the BIOS, what else might be needed / best to update for a general gaming setup please? There are 19 drivers and I doubt that all of them would be of use to me. So do I install all 19? If not, which ones please?
Not doing RAID.
And the Utilities, I take it that only the RGB and latest Control Centre package are needed?

Thanks


These are the ones that are available, are all of them needed to be updated?

AUDIO
DTS- SFX

CHIPSET
Intel® GNA Scoring Accelerator  (AI speech_
Intel® Dynamic Tuning Technology (APO) Driver
Intel Serial I/O driver
Intel HID Event Filter
Intel Management Engine Firmware
Intel Chipset Device Software

LAN
Intel i225 LAN driver
Intel i225 LAN Preinstall driver
Aquantia LAN Preinstall Driver
Aquantia LAN Driver

SATA RAID
Intel SATA Preinstall driver
Intel Rapid Storage Technology

THUNDERBOLT
Thunderbolt Driver

VGA
Intel Graphic Driver

WLAN+BT
Qualcomm Wi-Fi 7 Bluetooth Driver
Qualcomm Wi-Fi 7 WIFI driver

UTILITIES
GIGABYTE IT5701 RGB lighting controller firmware upgrade package
GIGABYTE Control Center Full Installation Package

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All other GIGABYTE products / M28U monitor: Type-C to Type-C issues.

« Last post by MarkJohnson on March 08, 2024, 01:38:50 am »

My Dell laptop is connected to the M28U with type-c to Type-c cable, but the keyboard/mouse won't work.

Speakers work.

The keyboard/mouse work on my desktop that uses Display Port cable (2.1) and the USB-B cable to the desktop Type-A USB 3.1 (Red) port also.

I'm not sure what is going on?

I installed M28U monitor driver and sidekick.  but still no mouse keyboard to Type-C to Type-C of my laptop.

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Motherboards with AMD processors / Re: Aorus x670E Master and Bios Hell!

« Last post by dmdilks on March 07, 2024, 12:45:55 pm »

The one I don't understand how the GCC did the update on the Bios. I have install the GCC many times and the Bios update is always uncheck. The only thing you have left is to down grade the bios to what you had.

Plus if you are talking to support ask them if you do this will the board still be in warranty. If something happens with down grade. It looks like you can do the down grade. Because they do have it some times when you do a Bios upgrade can't go back. But this it looks like you can.

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Motherboards with AMD processors / Re: Aorus x670E Master and Bios Hell!

« Last post by Bobins on March 06, 2024, 08:48:45 pm »

At 6400 I've run memtest86 for 24hrs and the memory reports no errors so the issues with the bios doesn't seem to be memory related. I've tried running it without XMP and I still have problems.
I've narrowed the audio/video stuttering specifically to the use of the default "auto" setting in the fan type when a manual fan profile is used.
If I use a manual fan profile (controlling my pump speed and setting the fan speeds dependant on water temperature) with the fan type set to "auto" i get the audio buzz and video stutter. If I set the fan type to the exact fan type (PWM or Vol) the the problem goes away.
This bios is unstable though. The motherboard doesn't always sleep or shutdown properly needing a complete power down to recover. I can tell when this state is present because the onboard LEDs stay illuminated when the system is off despite the bios setting in bios for LEDs Off when powered down.
Sometimes on boot the network isn't detected. This is only solved if I go into bios and use F10 to exit without making any changes.
Sometimes the system won't boot with a windows BSOD reporting ACPI BIOS Error 

Gigabyte say I can regress the bios back to an earlier version but I'm nervous about this because I've heard of others bricking their system trying it.
I'm beginning to wonder if the motherboard itself is suspect.