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Questions about GIGABYTE products => Motherboards with Intel processors => Topic started by: Wonderwrench on July 13, 2010, 06:16:07 pm
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I just built a system for my buddy using a GA-X58A-UD3R REV2 bios FA. For now he will be using a standard magnetic drive for the OS (aka win 7 64 bit) connected to the Intel SATA 2 controller. In the near future he wants to get a Crucial REAL C300 SSD and of course connect it to the Marvell SATA 3 controller. I'm under the understanding that the Marvel controller needs to be run in AHCI mode using the MSAHCI driver for trim to function. The trouble is that when the Marvell controller is in AHCI mode in the bios before installing windows 7 after the OS install windows has no driver for the Marvell controller. Its shown in device manager as a unknown device. This looks like a catch 22 to me as I would have no choice but to install the Marvell driver during the OS install when using a Crucial REAL C300 SSD on the Marvell controller if the controller is set to AHCI mode in the bios. So the question is how are people getting the MSAHCI driver to install with the Marvell controller set to AHCI mode in the bios? See screen shot of the bios settings in the manual.
Thanks
Bill
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This has been discussed in the past here on the forum. The AHCI mode has to be enabled to get the best performance but with the Marvell drivers I am not sure that TRIM is working. You can check for TRIM to see if it is enabled but it doesn't actually tell you whether it is active.
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So I take it there are no MSAHCI drivers in Windows 7 for the Marvell SATA 3 controller? During my test install I installed the Marvell drivers from within windows 7 and it would seem there is no way to install just the driver. I see no need for RAID utilities.
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Not as far as I am aware.Even the Marvell drivers are crap. To bring up an old point once again the Marvell SATA3 is actually slower than the ICH10 SATA2 when a RAID array is installed but Gigabyte don't seem to be interested in doing anything about it. The advertising hype about getting 4x the speed of SATA2 is bullsh1t.
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I did some searching and it looks like Gigabyte dropped the ball and does not include a driver only package for the Marvell SATA 3 controller. Asus uses the same controller on some of their boards and they have a driver only download that is less than a month old. Version V1.0.0.1036. I got it here http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=T2FxW2fXGZQgSn2V. I will give it a shot next time I'm over at my buddies house and see what happens. One more question: Is there a PCIE 2.0 4x SATA 3 add in card that is that works correctly and has trim support? No RAID needed BTW plus it automatically breaks trim.
Thanks
Bill
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If you do a search of the recent posts on this forum regarding SATA there was someone that was using a card of I think that type.
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not tested with sata3 disks but i think run fine
i use with 2 * HPM enclosures with 4 * sata 1T0 disks ( speed is some 160 mo/s )
RR622 or RR620 by HighPoint ( 2 ports )
* RAID 0 , 1 , 5 , 10 with 2 * port multiplier enclosures
exist also a new models with 4 * ports RR640 or RR644
Pierre
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not tested with sata3 disks but i think run fine
i use with 2 * HPM enclosures with 4 * sata 1T0 disks ( speed is some 160 mo/s )
RR622 or RR620 by HighPoint ( 2 ports )
* RAID 0 , 1 , 5 , 10 with 2 * port multiplier enclosures
exist also a new models with 4 * ports RR640 or RR644
Pierre
I took a look at the 600 series cards and they are PCIE 2.0 1x cards not 4x cards. I can't see why they even made them as x1 does not have enough bandwidth for SATA 3.
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RR640 or RR644 are PCI-e X4 add-on cards
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look this
http://www.highpoint-tech.com/USA_new/series_rr600.htm
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Highpoint-RocketRAID-644-(RR644)-4-channel-External-PCI-e-20-x4-to-SATA-6Gb-s-RAID-controller-card
Pierre
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That's interesting Pierre, thanks for the update. However I notice that these cards use the same Marvell 9128 controller chip as do the Gigabyte motherboards(and in that case anyway very poorly)
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Gigabyte's version of "SATA3-gate"... still no comment on the Marvell SATA3 from Gigabyte?
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Gigabyte's version of "SATA3-gate"... still no comment on the Marvell SATA3 from Gigabyte?
No there is an eerie silence pervading the air :(
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Gigabyte's version of "SATA3-gate"... still no comment on the Marvell SATA3 from Gigabyte?
No there is an eerie silence pervading the air :(
Look, let's just clear up this SATA3 issue once and for all. It is just like Apple's I-Phone 4, there really isn't a problem at all, it's just the way that we are using the damn thing!
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But I have tried holding my computer the right way but my arm gets tired ;)
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No there is an eerie silence pervading the air :(
That's the problem here... when customers lose their patience and make some funny posts, Gigabyte will do some funny things too. In my opinion, Gigabyte online technical support is among the worst in the world. Well, runn3R at least responded to some of our posts, although I'm sure all of us wish runn3R can respond more quickly especially regarding the Marvell SATA3 issue.
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To be fair, runn3R is caught in the middle. Although he sees all the comments on here he can only relay them to his superiors and if they don't want to do anything about it he just has to keep quiet. Not altogether an easy place to be.
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To be fair, runn3R is caught in the middle. Although he sees all the comments on here he can only relay them to his superiors and if they don't want to do anything about it he just has to keep quiet. Not altogether an easy place to be.
That's true. It's nothing runn3R can do because he's not the boss of Gigabyte. But what other options that we customers have? Just consider ourselves bad luck to pay extra bucks to buy something which works worse than what it's advertised? At least Gigabyte GEO should act like the Apple CEO and come out to speak loudly: "Our Marvell SATA3 works perfectly. It's not our problem..." I wonder if UD9 has solved this SATA3 problem.
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I wonder if UD9 has solved this SATA3 problem.
I wouldn't think so because the Marvell 9128 chip and layout is the same and I think that if they had found a solution to the problem they would have been shouting about it already.
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I wonder if UD9 has solved this SATA3 problem.
I wouldn't think so because the Marvell 9128 chip and layout is the same and I think that if they had found a solution to the problem they would have been shouting about it already.
That's is very true...
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Hi runn3R... please look into this MARVELL SATA3 problem... customers are waiting and would like to know the stance of Gigabyte.
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sorry
but i have hacked a ASROCK 88SE9123 little pci-e card with HIGHPOINT firmware and i can mount RAID , 0 , 1 , 5 , 10 at start up
exactly as the Rocket Raid RR622
after with WINXP card is know as RR622 no problem
problem is ASROCK card cannot find disks / RAID with WIN XP
but if i connect RAID disks to a RR622 i find that RAID is mounted correctly by ASROCK hacked firmware
possible that my hack is not exactly compatible wit RR622 original card firmware
i have used a modified autoload ( no exactly the same as RR622 ) with same bios as RR622
i search always a solution but without 88SE91xx documentation that is hard !!
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next week i received this little adapter SOCI8 to DIP8 for test with IOISATA SATA3 card S3-PCIE1XG201
http://www.ioisata.com/products/Host-Adapter/S3-PCIE1XG201.htm
exactly same firmware , autoload as my GigaByte X58A-UD5 motherboard
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Pierre
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All sounds very interesting Pierre but i must admit it is a bit beyond my scope. I couldn't load the picture either I just got an error. :-\
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Hi runn3R... please look into this MARVELL SATA3 problem... customers are waiting and would like to know the stance of Gigabyte.
OK, I will
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new drivers
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/marvell.htm
Ver: 1.0.0.1042-WHQL
MRU 4.1.0.1702 ยจ
Pierre
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Thanks for those drivers Pierre. What I can't understand is how you can get them but Gigabyte can't ??? Certainly look hopefull.
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for infos french users post infos for new drivers to station-drivers site
with this infos and because i have not found files to station-drivers site
i have leeched to Asus and MSI and i have found the new driver !!
* quickly tested :
Always as before the same bug with 2 * ports multipliers with 4 disks --> driver detect only 7 disks and not 8 !!
And MRU find 8 disks ...
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station drivers link repaired !!
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/marvell.htm
Pierre