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Title: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Welshy on February 04, 2012, 11:02:34 am
Hi  everyone its my first post on these forums, so a BIG HELLO to all.    i recently bought  a gigabyte  GA-G41MT-S2P   Motherboard it has  realtek high deffinition audio so i belive :). i hooked up my pc to my  samsung lcd HD television.  dipplay is good but i cant get any audio,  on my last motherboard, when i went into audio settings there was a option to make hdmi  default. but i cant find anything now,  when i go to Playback devices on my sound it only shows speakers ?   any help would be very much appreciated thanks
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Rolo42 on February 04, 2012, 06:55:38 pm
Did you connect the TV to the VGA connector or are you using a video card?

If the former, you'll have to connect your LINE OUT to the TV (or receiver) as well; if the latter, you may have to use an internal cable to connect the video card's HDMI audio to the motherboard.
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Welshy on February 04, 2012, 07:16:57 pm
im using the HDMI socket on my video card,  i had a quick look at the video card there is a small white connector on it, where on the motherboard should i plug it in, i already have the cable that connects the front jacks of my case plugged into the motherboard audio socket.
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Welshy on February 04, 2012, 07:40:11 pm
ok i just had a look at the video card and there is a spdif socket with no wire plugged in. but i have no  spdif socket on my motherboard :(
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Rolo42 on February 05, 2012, 05:46:35 am
Momentary Lapse of Reason: you aren't using SPDIF; the audio should come from the bus.  This should help:

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/GPU70NoAudiofromHDTV.aspx

Since you had the HDMI output option and (it vanished?), check your HDMI connection to the TV.
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Welshy on February 05, 2012, 07:45:36 am
not sure what to do now :(   anyway  main problem is,  on my old motherboard there was a white spdif socket and i had a thin cable connected from my video card to motherboard, but on the new gigabyte motherboard there is no white spdif socket on it,  and when i plug a hdmi cable to the video card ant then into the tv. the video is good but no sound, then i go to the playback tab on my sound settings it only has one device and thats the speakers for my pc,  and im  running windows 7,  sorry if i missed something, i am quiet new to all this :)
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Rolo42 on February 05, 2012, 08:26:09 am
I haven't used HDMI yet, so take what I say lightly.

I think the internal SPDIF connection is when you want to use SPDIF externally.  I think the normal HDMI audio comes from the PCIe bus, no other internal connection is necessary. The linked article suggested a below spec HDMI cable can cause the problem you're having.  Support for your video card may be more useful if you don't get any help here.
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Dark Mantis on February 05, 2012, 09:23:24 am
Hi and welcome Welshy.

Audio isn't my strong point so don't expect miracles but Rolo is correct you don't require a seperate SPDIF cable to use the HD sound via HDMI output as the port/cable transfers sound as well as video. Have you made sure that you have all the right drivers installed for the audioo side ?
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: MiiCK on February 05, 2012, 10:07:17 am
Check the version of your HDMI cable (1.4b etc), going to control panel>sound on win 7 will show all devices, right click in the box and show disabled/disconnected devices, see if it brings it up, if you have nvidia graphics go into the nvidia control panel and see if when plugged in it recognises your tv..
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Welshy on February 05, 2012, 10:27:00 am
checked the drivers. downloaded the drivers off the gigabyte website for my motherboard, and its still the same. went into control panel then sound and it only has my speakers for the device, tried right clicking in the box  checked and unchecked the 2 boxes  show disabled devices and show disconnected devices and still nothing :(   also went on to my nvidia control panel  it shows my  samsung  tv  and under connector it say  HDMI - HDTV  Audio Enabled. so i have no idea what im doing wrong .
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Welshy on February 05, 2012, 10:31:56 am
This is the exact model mother board i have :    http://uk.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4024&dl=1#sp   
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Dark Mantis on February 05, 2012, 11:10:48 am
Can you list your hardware please as that might shed some light on the problem.

What GPU are you using as the HD audio will come directly from that.
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Welshy on February 05, 2012, 11:16:21 am
im using a NVIDIA  GEForce  9600 gs.  quiet a basic card but it has HDMI output
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Dark Mantis on February 05, 2012, 11:45:50 am
Make sure that those drivers and outputs are listed as the default ones then.
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Welshy on February 05, 2012, 02:35:05 pm
ah well i give up :)
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Rolo42 on February 05, 2012, 05:43:33 pm
Do you have the nVidia High-Def Audio driver installed with the video driver?

Does it show in Device Manager?
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Welshy on February 05, 2012, 07:20:01 pm
hmm cant find it anywhere in device manager :(
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Rolo42 on February 06, 2012, 01:17:48 am
Install the 285.62 driver (or later, if you're inclined to run betas) from www.nvidia.com -  select custom install to ensure the HD audio driver installs.  The Windows update driver is a bare-bones version.
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Dark Mantis on February 06, 2012, 06:31:05 am
It sounds to me as if you haven't got the full driver set installed just the video driver. Make sure that you have downloaded and installed al the drivers.
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Welshy on February 06, 2012, 09:04:43 am
ok i just downloaded  beta  NVIDIA Drivers  Version 295.51   used custom linstall and thes are whats is displayed.

Graphics Driver

3D Vision Controller Driver

3D Vision Driver

NVIDIA Update

PhysX system Software.

thats all i can find there  nothing about the audio ? 
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Rolo42 on February 06, 2012, 09:41:16 am
Nuts.

Try installing it without the HDMI cable connected (assuming you have another display).
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Welshy on February 06, 2012, 12:20:17 pm
Just tried that and its still the same. :(
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Dark Mantis on February 06, 2012, 12:48:10 pm
What setting have you got in the BIOS for the Azalia codec ?
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Welshy on February 06, 2012, 12:58:46 pm
for azalia audio in BIOS  there was 2 option,     auto and disable mine was on auto
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Dark Mantis on February 06, 2012, 01:12:58 pm
Well I don't think it would make any difference anyway but it is for the onboard RealTek audio. Just clutching at straws to be honest.
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Welshy on February 06, 2012, 01:18:08 pm
you guys sure the spdif socket on the video card has nothing to do with it, on my last motherboard im quiet sure there was a wire connecting from the  spdif on the video card to the spdif on the motherboard, and it worked then :(   just on my new motherboard there is no spdif socket
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Dark Mantis on February 06, 2012, 01:23:44 pm
There is no reason to have a SPDIF connection to the motherboard as far as I know. The audio should be transferred down the bus and then via the HDMI cable which carries audio and video.
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Welshy on February 06, 2012, 01:46:55 pm
maybe my video  card doesn't  support doing it that way.  might depend on the spdif connection,   NVIDIA 9600 GS just a guess :(
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Rolo42 on February 07, 2012, 05:51:47 am
The absence of the HD Audio driver lets me think you are correct.
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Dark Mantis on February 07, 2012, 09:52:28 am
Has anyone else got this version of the graphics card and can verify that this is indeed the case ?
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Welshy on February 07, 2012, 09:54:43 am
i think its time i should upgrade my video card :(
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Lsdmeasap on February 07, 2012, 11:19:36 am
Azalia must be disabled to use other audio.   With that said, I had to buy a sound card myself to use audio because HDMI audio was a huge fail for me too (ATI HDMI).   It would work, but SUPER LOW, I mean LOW as in you could not hear it barely even if you were to crawl inside of the speaker :D
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Welshy on February 07, 2012, 11:42:04 am
im using the onboard audio, will it not work if i disable Azalia ?
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Lsdmeasap on February 07, 2012, 12:00:12 pm
Onboard audio = Azalia

HDMI audio = Graphics card audio processing

They can't be both enabled/used at the same time
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Rolo42 on February 07, 2012, 04:27:31 pm
Unless its specific to that board/chipset or HDMI specifically, I cannot agree.  (Though disabling on-board sound for troubleshooting is a good idea.)

I've used multiple audio devices for years now: on-board, Sound Blaster add-on (even up to three SB cards), HDMI, Bluetooth earpiece.  Typically, I use on-board for voice comms and Sound Blaster for real sound.
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Lsdmeasap on February 07, 2012, 05:50:32 pm
Well, I know it's a Gigabyte thing for sure, it's right in the manual and I've always had to disable it anytime I've used add-on audio cards.  

(http://i.imgur.com/Uqb4z.png)

Of course, I'm no audio pro (Don't care), so maybe I've never tinkered with it the right way, and I've also only tried with one speaker source anyway?  

For my speakers, I could only use one or the other, and HDMI audio via ATI was so tiny a gnat would squint to hear it.  << And that  may be the same issue the OP is having, I bought a cheap card to get around that, but have since went back to onboard.   I only use speakers for mail notifications, or the occasional tech video, so it doesn't really matter to me how it's setup as long as it's working.  I just dropped my thoughts here because it seemed like no one was mentioning this, and I had experienced similar with HDMI audio.
Title: Re: GA-G41MT-S2P HDMI audio ?
Post by: Rolo42 on February 07, 2012, 07:03:21 pm
It is a good idea to disable on-board for troubleshooting.

Plug-n-Play/resource pooling eliminates conflicts and Windows facilitates multiple audio devices; it lets you prioritise them and specify different audio devices for normal sound and voice comms.

My wife has a G930 headset in addition to a SB X-fi, on-board audio, and HDMI audio.  When she turns on the headset, it takes priority over the SB X-fi (connected to Klipsch 5.1 speakers) for normal sounds.  The on-board Realtek is always set for voice comms with its own mic and monitor-mounted speakerbar; which is handy for MMO raids.

I used to DJ a little and I had three SB Live!s used by Winamp; two to drive two different PAs in different rooms and one for headphones to preview; on-board sound was for Windows system sounds (not pleasant over a cranked PA!).

Really odd the manual would say that any time after Windows 3.1/95.