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Questions about GIGABYTE products => Motherboards with Intel processors => Topic started by: jeff_hough on January 03, 2011, 10:58:56 pm
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This board has 4xDDR2 slots + 2x DDR3 slots.
Both DDR2 & DDR3 are reported as being dual channel capable.
The technical spec for this board says that it supports up to 8G of DDR2 but only 4G of DDR3:
http://uk.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=2551#sp
Is the 4G limit on DDR3 still correct? (If so, why is it different to the DDR2 limit?)
Or, was it just the case that there wasn't anything larger than a 2G memory stick when this board was manufactured, so anything more than 2x2G of DDR3 was impossible at the time...
If I fitted 2x4G of DDR3, what would happen?
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No comment from Gigabyte? Or anyone else? Anyone ?!
(Do their technicians use this forum ?)
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Hi and welcome to the Gigabyte Forum.
No I am afraid that Gigabyte technicians don't officially check the board but they do have an administrator that keeps an eye on things.
I am not sure of the answer to your question to be perfectly honest but at worst if you tried 2 x 4 GB modules and they weren't supported the motherboard just wouldn't "see" the full amount. Obviously you would have to be running 64 bit windows anyway.
You can confirm this by taking out a ticket with GGTS but please be aware they normally take around a week to answer.
Just enter your email address and click on the language of choice.
GGTS http://ggts.gigabyte.com.tw/Default.aspx
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Hello there,
This mobo has a ddr3 limit of 4gb because it has two slots for ddr3 rams, and ddr2 limit of 8gb because it has 4 slots for ddr2 rams, and for each slot regardless off ram type (ddr2 or ddr3), there is a limitation to the maximum memory the slot can handle and that is 2gb. So 4x(2gb ddr2)=8gb ddr2, or 2x(2gb ddr3)=4gb ddr3. And one last thing; you cannot have them both at the same time, you either have to go for ddr2 or ddr3.
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Ahh... thanks Leomax.
So you're saying that I couldn't install 2x4G in the DDR2 slots either - even though this would not exceed the 8G upper limit for DDR2 (?)
Was that a limitation of the P35 Northbridge ?
Apart from Gigabyte's "supported memory" list (which I'm sure we all look at, then ignore!) how would I have been able to tell this before trying it?
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Probably your best bet would be the memory manufacturer's website as they normally have their own QVL for the various boards and are more up to date.
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I would be very interested in finding out the answer to the original posters question also as I am not thinking about upgrading to DDR3 memory with this board - I would really like to go with 2x4GB modules of DDR3 memory if possible...anyone got any updates on this?
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It might be a good idea to post a query with GGTS here:
Just enter your email address and click on the language of choice.
GGTS http://ggts.gigabyte.com.tw/Default.aspx
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I've already asked Giggabyte the same question... I'll post back if/when I get a reply.
There's a post on the OCZ forum which suggests that 2x4G DDR3 should work with this board - whether it does or not is another matter...
I've not managed to find anything which says there was a 2G limit per slot for the ICH9R chipset.
If anynore knows different, please feel free to post a link!
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Personally I think there is a good chance of the chip recognising the full 4GB on each module but it is always one of those things until someone tries it.
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I have just heard back from GigaByte support that you can install 2x4GB of DDR3 RAM into this board and it will recognise the full 8GB..
Provided screenshot as proof..
(http://ggts.gigabyte.eu/FileList/1029281/1029281.jpg)
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That makes you a happy person then! ;) Should also help jeff_hough then as well.
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I was wondering what specific DDR3 memory was used and if the system was stable.
I tried adding 2+2 GB of DDR2 memory but keep on having BDOS.
Considering that 8GB of DDR3 cost almost the same as 4GB of DDR2 and I could use them again in future if I can install 8 GB of DDR3, so much the better.
Lorenz
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You do understand though that you can't mix and match. Only DDR2 or DDR3 can be installed at any one time.
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Yes. I knew that. Thanks.
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I'm working on this particular board, and I've installed two 4 GiB DDR3-1333 (G.SKILL F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL) modules. While BIOS and OS see all 8 GiB of RAM, I'm having dramatic slowdowns when both sticks are installed. Both sticks work individually in both DDR3 slots, so it's not a memory or board defect as far as I can tell. CPU-Z reports identical properties for the memory in both 1x4 GiB and 2x4 GiB configurations. Does anyone have any idea what the problem might be?
Edit: Ran a cycle of Memtest86+ once on each stick, and then once on both. The individual tests completed a cycle in about 40 minutes, while I had to stop the simultaneous test after 2 hours where it was stuck on 18%. There's definitely something going very wrong.
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Hi try increasing the DRAM voltage a touch. Also make sure that you have one stick in Channel1 and one stick in Channel 2 not both in the same channel that is the two GREEN slots.
The next thing I would want to check is the memory properly. This does take a long time but there are no shortcuts. Please follow these instructions exactly.
I would suggest that you download and run the latest version of Memtest86+ to check your RAM first.
Memtest86+ http://www.memtest.org/
Insert one stick of memory in slot 1 and run Memtest on it for at least 10 complete loops/cycles and if there are no errors then swap it over with the next one and continue untill you have checked all modules.
If you have any errors the module is faulty.
If you have any faulty modules you will have to return the whole kit as they are matched.
Post back when you have done that with the results.
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I went through the BIOS before posting, looking for memory-related settings, but I could find nothing to do with voltage or timings. The BIOS on this board seems fairly awkward and very limited unless there's some magic button that I need to push to get to the advanced settings. I'm fairly certain that the memory is running at 1.5 V, as it should be, however Memtest86+ reported 7-7-7-20 timings, whereas this particular memory is rated at 9-9-9-24. With regards to slot configuration, there's really only one way to do it when you have two sticks and two slots.
As per my previous post, I ran one Memtest86+ cycle in each configuration in order to rule out any OS issues. This memory has been through extensive Memtest86+ cycles in other machines, and works perfectly.
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With regards to slot configuration, there's really only one way to do it when you have two sticks and two slots.
Actually you have six slots on the motherboard . I know that four of them are for DDR2 memory and the other two for DDR3 RAM. But just because you realise that there are plenty of people who wouldn't.
As per my previous post, I ran one Memtest86+ cycle in each configuration in order to rule out any OS issues. This memory has been through extensive Memtest86+ cycles in other machines, and works perfectly.
That is as may be but that isn't the correct way of running it and so isn't worth anything.
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I think it's fairly safe to assume that I've done all of the Memtest86+ testing that I need to do. This memory has been through many cycles on several boards with no errors, and it has gone through a cycle for each stick on this board and worked as expected, at the expected throughput. It should be reasonable to conclude that the modules are in working order. The issue I'm facing is not caused by memory corruption, but rather a drastic slowdown when both sticks are in this board (and only this board) simultaneously.
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I am thinking about upgrading to 2x4 Gb DDR3 as well.
Did you ever get it sorted with the slowdowns?
I did read somewhere that it can be related to bios version, which Bios are you running?
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Ztimpy:
Yes, I think that his BIOS version may be Pennybag's problem. I've seen that issue come up on similar setups.
I have the GA-P35C-DS3R MoBo rev. 1.1 with the F10 BIOS and am running Win7 64-bit.
I have installed 8GB of G.Skill (2x4GB) DDR3 1333 F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL RAM.
My system recognizes all of it at the rated speed and timings without having to adjust anything.
So go ahead and install it. The extra capacity has sure helped my system, and has also enabled me to experiment with the super speed of RAM disks.
I'm still holding out though for Memristor & MRAM technology to provide high-speed, nonvolatile, universal type of storage.
I'm actually very curious to see what would happen if I installed 2 - 8GB DDR3 DIMMS into the P35C for a total of 16GB.
I can't find any mention anywhere of anyone else trying it. That's probably because most people who are installing that much RAM have a MoBo that has more than two DDR3 slots.
The 16GB is for another newer system and will be tested just temporarily in the P35C to see what will happen.
After I test it, I'll post back here so the attempt can be indexed somewhere.
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I'm actually very curious to see what would happen if I installed 2 - 8GB DDR3 DIMMS into the P35C for a total of 16GB.
I can't find any mention anywhere of anyone else trying it. That's probably because most people who are installing that much RAM have a MoBo that has more than two DDR3 slots.
The 16GB is for another newer system and will be tested just temporarily in the P35C to see what will happen.
After I test it, I'll post back here so the attempt can be indexed somewhere.
Thanks as it would be great to have it tested out for sure. I suspect that the memory controlller will be overloaded and not able to read it or at least it all but that is just conjecture so physical testing is always better. ;)
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I'm not going to be able to get to test it myself as soon as I had hoped, but here's someone who reported getting 16GB DDR2 to work on a GA-P35-DS3L three years ago: http://www.soundsonline-forums.com/showthread.php?t=17728 (http://www.soundsonline-forums.com/showthread.php?t=17728)
He credits his success to updating the BIOS to F9B (BETA).
I use F10 BIOS and Sisoft SANDRA shows that 8GB is the Maximum Memory Capacity for the system.
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Hi ppl
I have GA-P35C-DS3 ( not GA-P35C-DS3"R").
My BIOS version is F7a (the latest vers for this model on autoupdate from gigabyte official).
I've installed 2x1GB ddr2 but I would like to replace it with 2x 4 GB _DDR3.
So, is it possible? If it will work properly?
tnx
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check QVL of mobo for compatibility
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@Shockwave_X
I dont think you can.....have a look at the memory configurators from Crucial and Corsair
Crucial
http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=GA-P35C-DS3R&Cat=RAM
Corsair - you will have to find your motherboard from the drop down menu.....but here is the link:
http://www.corsair.com/learn_n_explore/?psu=yes
teknology9
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tnx for responese..
I oredered this:
http://www.gigatronshop.com/memorija/kingston_8gb_2x4gb_ddr3_hyperx_blu_1600mhz_cl9_-_khx1600c9d3b1k28gx-12611
I'll response if it work or not
:)
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Hi,
GOOD NEWS for all :)
I have Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3
I bought 2x 4GB DDR3 - KINGSTON DDR3 HYPERX BLU 1600MHZ CL9 - KHX1600C9D3B1K2/8GX
Works perfect on 1333MHz (not 1600) and read all the memory!
Cheers
Ivan
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That is good news for you and the many others who would like to upgrade their platforms with more memory. Thanks for letting everyone know. ;)
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I have mbo GA P35C-DS3R rev1
Which DDR3 2x4Gb can I use?
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I have mbo GA P35C-DS3R rev1
Which DDR3 2x4Gb can I use?
First, you need 64-bit operating system for 8GB of RAM.
I have Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3 and my motherboard looks like this.
http://www.gigabyte.com/fileupload/product/2/2633/800.jpg
Picture difference bitween this or other rev is text typed on board down-left.
I know that my board isn't last version of DS3
I have 2x 4GB DDR3 - KINGSTON DDR3 HYPERX BLU 1600MHZ CL9 - KHX1600C9D3B1K2/8GX
Works perfect on 1333MHz
You have to buy 1600MHz because of voltage.
You can see my post on second page of this thread with pictures.
http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3983.0;attach=3518;image
http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3983.0;attach=3520;image
Comp works pefrect, I charged all 8GB of RAM to test it, it works perfect :)
Sve najbolje :)
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I have mbo GA P35C-DS3R rev1
Which DDR3 2x4Gb can I use?
First, you need 64-bit operating system for 8GB of RAM.
I have Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3 and my motherboard looks like this.
http://www.gigabyte.com/fileupload/product/2/2633/800.jpg
Picture difference bitween this or other rev is text typed on board down-left.
I know that my board isn't last version of DS3
I have 2x 4GB DDR3 - KINGSTON DDR3 HYPERX BLU 1600MHZ CL9 - KHX1600C9D3B1K2/8GX
Works perfect on 1333MHz
You have to buy 1600MHz because of voltage.
You can see my post on second page of this thread with pictures.
http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3983.0;attach=3518;image
http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3983.0;attach=3520;image
Comp works pefrect, I charged all 8GB of RAM to test it, it works perfect :)
Sve najbolje :)
Tnx
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Hi Shockwave_X,
I got nearly the same set of RAM than you :
KHX1600C9D3K4_16GX 4x4Go CL9 made for 1600Mhz.
Plan was to use 2 of them to get 8Go, running at 1333Mhz or even less but unfortunately my system doesn't boot with this new memory :(
What setting did you use in your BIOS or is there something else we should be aware of ?
thx
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Hi Shockwave_X,
I got nearly the same set of RAM than you :
KHX1600C9D3K4_16GX 4x4Go CL9 made for 1600Mhz.
Plan was to use 2 of them to get 8Go, running at 1333Mhz or even less but unfortunately my system doesn't boot with this new memory :(
What setting did you use in your BIOS or is there something else we should be aware of ?
thx
Hi Loner,
For 8 GB RAM you must have 64bit operating system, you must remove DDR2 from slots (put only DDR3). Reset clocks if you done some overclocking.
Answer me,
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Hi!
One more signing up on the list with a DS3R rev 2.1 now running on 2x4Gb DDR3 1333Mhz. ;D
Thx to all for the info in this thread :)
I got o tip from another guy with the same board as me, and they seems to work for me too :)
G.Skill Ripjaws 2x4Gb F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL - DDR3 1333Mhz
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=233&c1=&c2=&search=RjMtMTA2NjZDTDlELThHQlJM
I havent done any more test yet, but as the pictures shows it looks fine...
EDIT: Running Memtest86+, right now. Update later...
(http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/715/memorytesting8387584kok.jpg)
(http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/6180/800gbram.jpg)
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They seems to be running in 1066Mhz with the timing 7-7-7-20 ???
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They seems to be running in 1066Mhz with the timing 7-7-7-20 ???
as u can see here my memory runs on 1333MHz 9-9-9-24
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EDIT: Memtest86+ finished with no errors.
They seems to be running in 1066Mhz with the timing 7-7-7-20 ???
as u can see here my memory runs on 1333MHz 9-9-9-24
I guess it`s my unclocked CPU with standard FSB 1066 that`s stoping my memory from running 1333Mhz.
What CPU do you have ?
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I can now report that when I overclock my CPU, and change the CPU Host freqency from 266x9 to 333x9, 2.4Ghz to 3.0Ghz, as in video below, change DDR voltage to +0.1volt/1.6volt, change memorytiming to 9-9-9-24, they are running in 1333Mhz as they should :)
http://www.rubidik.com/video/3071/overclocking-cpu-q6600-24-to-30ghz---new-high-quality-guide
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Hi,
Just bought 2x 4GB DDR3 1333Mhz memory from Kingston.
Plugged in and rebooted with default (i.e. auto) settings in BIOS. Works!
http://www.kingston.com/datasheets/KHX1333C9D3B1K2_8G.pdf
Greetz,
P.
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I got o tip from another guy with the same board as me, and they seems to work for me too :)
G.Skill Ripjaws 2x4Gb F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL - DDR3 1333Mhz
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=233&c1=&c2=&search=RjMtMTA2NjZDTDlELThHQlJM
same as u.but i put with the G.Skill Ripjaws 2x2Gb F3-10666CL9D-4GBRL - DDR3 1333Mhz only.
(just for game, not 3d renderer). it can run my E8400 @ 4.050ghz easily (sory for my bad english)
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Hey guys!
I'm very happy because today I installed this 8GB kit from Crucial and it works!
http://www.crucial.com/eu/store/partspecs.aspx?imodule=BLE2CP4G3D1608DE1TX0CEU (http://www.crucial.com/eu/store/partspecs.aspx?imodule=BLE2CP4G3D1608DE1TX0CEU)
I use the GA-P35C-DSR3 Rev. 2.0, with the latest BIOS F12.
Big thanks to this forum for your help in preparing me right for this upgrade :)
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Old tread, i know, but i cant find anywhere if this board would work with 16GB of DDR3. I have 8GB (4 x 2GB) and am thinking of upgrading RAM for it.
This box works superbly otherwise for over 5 years now (iirc) and paired with SSD i have no problems running multiple test environments in virtualization, so why not put a bit more ram into it if i can.
If anyone has any further info on this ancient topic, i would appreciate it. I also asked gigabyte support, and waiting for answer, but somehow i don't expect that they know about this board at Gigabyte with relation to such "strange" request and am expecting to get a generic "not supported" answer.
Cheers.
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Yup, generic answer from Gigabyte (max 8GB). Anyone has any more experience with this?
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I need help:
I've got Samsung DDR3 4gb 1600mhz modules M378B5173DB0-CK0 and when I insert them with all settings in bios set to default and auto, the mobo won't boot. it doesn't even produce "beep" sound when i power up pc.
I've also noticed that mobo won't remember setup of voltages and speeds in bios that I've made changed from default and that when I insert my ddr2 800mhz it always resets my changes to default values.
I've tried to overclock FSB to 333mhz and set cpu (E2180) to 6x333=2000mhz but the bios always resets itself and sets fsb to default but leaves multiplier to value that i've set (6x)
is it necessary to oc fsb to higher than default, let say to 333mhz so I get 1333mhz prior to installing a ddr3 module or ddr3 should work at default 800mhz also?
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With that CPU that you are using might be the problem. It only supports 800 mhz memory. You might be able to get 1066 memory to run but I think with that CPU you pushing it.
If you look at the one post with the screen shot showing 8gb installed. He is using a Q6600 that supports 1066.
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thnx for info. then I'll wait for xeon e5420 (with s771 to s775 mod). it supports fsb 1333 to i should support ddr3@1333mhz
EDIT:
I've set all values to "auto" when I've inserted ddr3 so is there possibility that ddr3 could have raised fsb and by doing so it made cpu unstable? i will try to set fixed fsb values to 200mhz, maybe it will cause ddr3 to work downclocked at 800mhz but overall sistem could work?
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Yes. that could work.
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it works but with different DDR3 modules:
i've read that DDR3 must not be based on 512mb chips and my 4gb DDR3 1600mhs is exactly like that - one sided 8x512mb chips
So I've got 2 other sticks: G.Skill 4gb DDR3 1333 (16x256mb) and Kingston 2gb DDR3 1333 (16x128mb) and it works perfectly in flex mode giving in total 6gb (slot 1 - 4gb and slot 2 - 2gb)
By auto settings caused that memory worked by default at 800mhz cause od 200mhz fsb but I've OCed it at 333mhz and setting divider to 4~ so memory works at 1333mhz and I've lowered multiplier to x6 so cpu works at default 2000mhz (333x6) with fixed voltage at 1.35V (i maybe could go lower but I don't want to mess around it cause new Xeon cpu will arrive soon)
Today I'll test this setup by switching that 1333mhz ddr3 with those of 1600mhz with 512mb chips because maybe problem is with setting up bios first and then inserting higher clock modules. I'll report findings
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it works but with different DDR3 modules:
i've read that DDR3 must not be based on 512mb chips and my 4gb DDR3 1600mhs is exactly like that - one sided 8x512mb chips
So I've got 2 other sticks: G.Skill 4gb DDR3 1333 (16x256mb) and Kingston 2gb DDR3 1333 (16x128mb) and it works perfectly in flex mode giving in total 6gb (slot 1 - 4gb and slot 2 - 2gb)
By auto settings caused that memory worked by default at 800mhz cause od 200mhz fsb but I've OCed it at 333mhz and setting divider to 4~ so memory works at 1333mhz and I've lowered multiplier to x6 so cpu works at default 2000mhz (333x6) with fixed voltage at 1.35V (i maybe could go lower but I don't want to mess around it cause new Xeon cpu will arrive soon)
Today I'll test this setup by switching that 1333mhz ddr3 with those of 1600mhz with 512mb chips because maybe problem is with setting up bios first and then inserting higher clock modules. I'll report findings
No, that's not true. Other users had success with 8 512x64 chips ram modules for example:
Hi,
Just bought 2x 4GB DDR3 1333Mhz memory from Kingston.
Plugged in and rebooted with default (i.e. auto) settings in BIOS. Works!
http://www.kingston.com/datasheets/KHX1333C9D3B1K2_8G.pdf
Greetz,
P.
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Tried replacing the 4x1GB sticks of ddr2 I had (one of them died) with 2x4GB ddr3 yet it won't even boot to bios, just keeps restarting.
Mem sticks: GSkill Ripjaws 2x4GB DDR3-1333 PC3-10666 CL9-9-9-24 1.5V (F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL http://www.gskill.com/en/product/f3-10666cl9d-8gbxl- )
BIOS version: F12
CPU: Intel Core2Quad Q6600 (9x266Mhz) which easily overclocks to well over 9x356.
Board revision: 1.1
Please help me.