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Questions about GIGABYTE products => Motherboards with Intel processors => Topic started by: failure13 on August 24, 2011, 09:44:37 am
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Good day.
How can i make AHCI work on this motherboard, without reinstalling my Windows 7 x64?
I don't want RAID or something, just AHCI so i can make my drives run faster.
I know that there could be made a boot-flashdisc, but i'm not sure exactly how to do it, since there are 3 controllers, and as i understand they all need to be installed...
My 4 Hard drives (all SATA II, except 1) are installed on Marvell 9128 chip controller & Gigabyte controller, but just in case i would buy additional Harddrives, i would like to install AHCI driver also on another controller (i guess it's Intel south bridge)...
P.S. If i shall install all the drivers and they will work good on existed Win 7, should i need to reinstall this AHCI drivers also, when it will be time to reinstall OS?
And will AHCI, compared to IDE, get me any sort of problems when reinstalling Windows / Formating harddrives and other operations that could cause loss of data?
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Good time of a day.
How can i make AHCI work on this motherboard, without reinstalling my Windows 7 x64?
I don't want RAID or something, just AHCI so i can make my drives run faster.
I know that there could be made a boot-flashdisc, but i'm not sure exactly how to do it, since there are 3 controllers, and as i understand they all need to be installed...
My 4 Hard drives (all SATA II, except 1) are installed on Marvell 9128 chip controller & Gigabyte controller, but just in case i would buy additional Harddrives, i would like to install AHCI driver also on another controller (i guess it's Intel south bridge)...
P.S. If i shall install all the drivers and they will work good on existed Win 7, should i need to reinstall this AHCI drivers also, when it will be time to reinstall OS?
And will AHCI, compared to IDE, get me any sort of problems when reinstalling Windows / Formating harddrives and other operations that could cause loss of data?
To answer your question specifically Enable switching between all IDE/AHCI/RAID modes by changing "Start" Values in these keys to 0 (Win 7 / Vista ONLY)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Msahci\Start
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Pciide\Start
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStorV\Start...........The windows install has ACHI drivers already there for use.
Ideally installing under a ACHI environment (ACHI set in BIOS) prior to OS install is best.....but the fix above does work......make sure you do these window based changes prior to the ACHI BIOS reset
If you want anywhere near stable,good performance........us your Marvell ports for your DVD only.........Intel even though sata2 will out perform Marvell port every time on this board.
Aussie Allan
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Hi
To change from IDE mode to AHCI mode is very straightforward. Just a few registry changes are required.
To change windows 7 or Vista to AHCI mode after you install in IDE mode is easy. Make the following registry changes in windows, then reboot the BIOS and enable AHCI and then load windows, after that you will be in AHCI mode.
Enable switching between all IDE/AHCI/RAID modes by changing "Start" Values in these keys to 0 (Win 7 / Vista ONLY)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Msahci\Start
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Pciide\Start
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStorV\Start
(Hey Allan, you must be getting quicker!)
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Wait, you mean if i'll change this keys + reboot and then change bios settings to AHCI it will just work?
And i don't even need to install any drivers?
I have forgot to say that Windows now have been installed with all to IDE, and it still on IDE mode...
So Windows doesn't have this keys even :))
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Wait, you mean if i'll change this keys + reboot and then change bios settings to AHCI it will just work?
And i don't even need to install any drivers?
I have forgot to say that Windows now have been installed with all to IDE, and it still on IDE mode...
So Windows doesn't have this keys even :))
What do you have to loose ;).....I suspect you already have the drivers onboard in hidden system files
Aussie Allan
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If you have installed all the chipset drivers etc for the motherboard then it should work fine.
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Now i have changed this registry entryes, rebooted, changed all ports to AHCI in bios...then BSOD couple times...Get hang of this, changed back to IDE, then i'm here))
Any suggestions?
P.S. Before this i have installed latest stable x64 chipset drivers from Intel site, for my x58 chipset..
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Leave Optical in IDE........DM .....I have to disappear for a few hours........would you mind?....thank mate!
Aussie Allan
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I think that i have done it, coz now optical is inside the higher one ports, driven by intel SB i believe...I have try to set it to IDE, still bsod :\
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Is there any reason why you can't do a clean instal of Windows on the drive ?
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Mainly coz i have waste last 3 days of my life on reinstalling Windows...
So i highly won't like to bother it
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It is one of the joys of computing! ;)
Often it is just that it ends up being quicker than trying to trouble shoot a installation with issues.
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I know, but just not this time.
Tell me how to try it out, if everything went wrong, i'll reinstall then...But now i would like just to know how to make it using boot-flashdrive.
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Have you got the IRST driver file from Intel's website loaded ? If not go and download and install it as that is what loads the AHCI support.
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http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?lang=eng&changeLang=true&DwnldId=20215
Ok, which of this 2?
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http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?lang=eng&changeLang=true&DwnldId=20215
Ok, which of this 2?
About 20 lines down.........
Which file to choose
iata_enu_10.6.0.1022.exe: provides English-only files if you have an English version of the operating system.
iata_cd_10.6.0.1022.exe: provides multiple language files if you have an operating system other than English.
AA
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haha, sorry, my bad)
Will try now
ohh...wait
"How to install
This software package should be installed after the operating system has been installed. F6 and RAID BIOS configurations need to be performed prior to installation of this software for proper operation.
Once RAID has been enabled in BIOS and the operating system is installed, double-click the downloaded file to launch the installation."
Is this ok since i made a regisstry tweak, or no?
Also when i try to install this, it writes that my system doesn't meet minimum requirements... :\
wtf?)
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The only thing not in your Sig (Signature) is OS.......if it's Windows7 no need for F6 pre-install......as to the "WTF" ....I have no Idea.....It's been sooooooo long since I had a system that did not have raid.........maybe the system is seeing no raid active in bios? .... switch back to IDE as that was what you had while installing the OS an see if that makes a difference.......you can always switch it back after it installs......or try downloading the installer again..........corruption does happen occasionally.........anybody else.....DM maybe?
Aussie Allan
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Actually OS is in my signature bold fonted even :D hahah ))
Win 7 x64 SP1
I have no RAID, coz i want to use my hard drives separately, and now they all in IDE, i get this message..
It's not corrupted installer, double-checked / no dms also..
Maybe i need to switch those registry entrys back in order to install this?
Or i don't know..USe F6 with bootrom-flash disc at first?
Also, couldn't this be the cause?
(http://s2.ipicture.ru/uploads/20110825/thumbs/SK1yWWNg.png) (http://s2.ipicture.ru/Gallery/Viewfull/5566729.html)
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Can't see the wood for the trees rings a bell!.......
I'm starting to have Marvell nightmares Ive seen it so much in the last 6 months........
Is it Marvell!
Possibly..........right click on what you had highlighted and see if you can do an auto driver update.........if this fails.......download and unpack the driver to memory-stick/documents/desktop........where ever you normally put them for easy access .......right click again but this time choose the lower field and point to the driver you downloaded and follow the prompts..........if successful.........reboot and see if the ! has gone away in device Manager.
If yes try the IRST install again.........Hopefully it wont give you the WTF error code again ;D.........post back what happens.
Aussie Allan
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Nothing :\
IRST still made it impossible...
Tell me why everyone hate marvell controller so much?)
And...I guess that was last suggestion?
So i need to kill another week with reinstalling my amayzingly huge system...
Please, provide step by step guide how to enable AHCI (without raid and all possible loose of data) when installing new Win 7 on just formated C...
Just from the beggining to the end, with all details.
I'm really afraid to loose data on other hard drivers rather than C..
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Go into BIOS and change IDE mode to AHCI mode for the boot controller. Save and exit. Carry on with the Windows 7 setup.
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And i won't have all of this problems with marvell?
Do you recommend to install all of my harddrive in intel controller and BD-ROM into Gigabyte's?
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I think DM will back me on this one.....on your X58.......Marvell should be reserved for Optical or OFF!....Intels ICH10R controller will give you far less issues...........even to the point of not installing the Marvell Driver Pack......windows will take it over nicely and run it at SATA 2.....for less problems for your DVD as well .....run in IDE.......sometimes DVD set to ACHI can give problems in Intel based systems
Above all.......back up all your data..........even if you have to use online "Cloud Storage"
Aussie Allan
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Wish i could do this...But i don't have any other hard drive to back up 3TB of information...And don't have enough money to buy new one now, and don't have any friend that could have 3TB free :D
And i prefer to jump off the window with loosing my data, than use cloud storage :D
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Ok...So now i'll install Windows using all possible switches in BIOS to AHCI, and all 4 harddrives installed in intel controller and dvd-rom in gigabyte's (i think that it would work at least better than marvell, wtih less issues, as far as i hear from you)
So that will give me AHCI drivers installed for all 3 controllers, and i can anytime switch the Gigabyte's and Marvell back to IDE or switch off without any trouble.
And also in that way, if i'll want to buy let's say...3TB drive that runs in 6Gb/s mode, than i could use it with Marvell controller.
Please confirm, did i get everything right?
If so,i'll start my installation.
P.S. Oh wait, if i'll leave only C and remove all other drives, they will understand after installation that they need to work in AHCI not in IDE right??
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If your 3TB drive is purely Data as not the boot drive.........your data will be fine
Just connect up your drive you intend on booting from ONLY and leave your 3TB data drive unconnected (no power or sata-data cable).......then it's totally safe and will help with the initial installation......you can alway load/install the data drive later
You can actually leave the Gsata and Marvell controller off in BIOS if you have nothing connected to them......(except Optical)...this should make the installation even easier........you can always add stuff later........as a compromise..........connect up one or two of your non critical drives to the Intel port if you want too
Believe me when I say .....there's nothing better then using a PC with a nice ,clean ,fresh install......and with your "Jump out the window 3TB disc" going in last..........your data is safe ;)
Aussie Allan
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Yes you got it all right now apart from this bit:
And also in that way, if i'll want to buy let's say...3TB drive that runs in 6Gb/s mode, than i could use it with Marvell controller.
You cannot safely use the Marvell controller for any fast access disk use. Fine for SATA2 drives or optical or anything like that but NOT SATA3 drives.
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My guardian angle DM...tee hee!.........where would we be with out the teacher correcting our work
UPDATE: DM is quite right that marvell is good for DVD and.......................................................................................?eeeeeeeeeer............................................................?..............................................................errrrrrrr?.............................................................................................?aaaaaaaaah............................................................?ummmmmmmm..................................................?ooooooooh... ;)
Aussie Allan
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My guardian angel DM...tee hee!.........where would we be with out the teacher correcting our work ;D
Aussie Allan
I was not necessarilly correcting you Allan just pointing out that the use of any fast drive is likely to be problematic. I have tried various drives and with most you can get away with it for a while but usually they will fall over at some point. Best just not to push it and stick with the slower, lower throughput drives for safety.
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And a karma ... you earn't it ;)
Aussie Allan
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Hi
This is how I did it. Changed from IDE to AHCI with Win7 allready installed.
I had no problems. And later I found out that I even did not have some ATA drivers installed or smthng. because Intels driver detecting utility automatically installed some of them after I used it when I had problem with some other driver :D
''On Microsoft offiacial help site there is exactly sayd also how to do it and its same way as Dark Mantis said but with a one little tweak to all that process
All that changeing in system registry can be done by Microsoft oficial tool Fix IT.
You just click on the FixIt button in the site and it will download and run a small oficial file that will do that MSahci Valua data change for you.
So all you have to do is let the program do its thing, change Sata Controller Mode to AHCI nad install drivers.
Here is the link to that FixIt thingi: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922976
I'm running Win7 64bit. Z68X-UD3-B3 mobo.
I let the FixIt do the job, went straight in to the TouchBios (lovely thing) and changed Sata controller to AHCI and made restart.
After restart Win. automatically installed AHCI drivers and rebooted again. And it was done!
Simple as that.''
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I'ts pity to hear that...I haven't seen any good motherboard yet with ability too boot SATA 3, but with not Marvell controller :(
Feel that we're all beta testers.
Vapperhiir
Wow, that worked?
Nice...But still, it's better to make perfect clean install i guess, since i have messed with all this marvell installations etc...
eehh
going to reinstall Windows in AHCI mode now!
Wish me luck guys!))
thanks fro help :)
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Good luck....may the PC God smile upon you :D
Aussie Allan
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I have use 4 harddrives on Intel SB AHCI mode and BD-ROM in Marvell as you said, so all 3 controllers have been installed in AHCI
Well, everything went perfect, except one thing, i still get this:
(http://s2.ipicture.ru/uploads/20110825/SK1yWWNg.png)
Don't know why ))
Now i switch Marvell to IDE and GA's off.
It seem that all harddrives are detected and work good without any trouble.
But, do i need to do something about this Marvell ! ?
On gigabyte's page there are:
Marvell RAID Utility (SATA3) (Please install Marvell Console Driver before install Marvell RAID Utility)
Marvell RAID Preinstall Driver (SATA3) for AHCI Mode
Marvell Console Driver (SATA3)
Which one i need to install?
P.S. This additional detection boot-screen of AHCI is pretty annoying...Don't get why not to use main post for this. But fast anyway.
What is SATA port 0-3 native / legacy mode stands for, which one is better to use?
Thanks for your help!!
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Starting from backwards......with thanks to Peter for this next paragraph!.........Legacy IDE mode means just that - the SATA port presents itself like a legacy ISA bus IDE port, I/O at 1F0h, IRQ14 (170h, IRQ15 for secondary), and the OS can run it just like any legacy HDD controller has been working ever since 1984. You cannot have more than two such controllers. The main point is that this mode runs on generic drivers, even on drivers from 20 years ago.
"Native" mode means PCI style, with plug-and-play assigned resources and a shareable PCI interrupt. You can have as many of those as you please, and only this mode lets you have non-legacy features like command queuing, hot-plugged drives, etc......."GO NATIVE"
Now with the Marvell.....if you have to go digging through 3 or 4 layers to get to this screen .....is it a big problem......or a niggle
Oh well ... lets have a crack at it anyway..........have you tried to just un- install it and let windows do it thing to reinstall?
If you get the "windows is unable to bla,bla,bla........what I do when feeling lazy is down load and unpack all the drivers to a folder on the desk top.....click on the update drivers tab...... choose the (lower option) manual install of drivers and point it to the folder on the desk top.
From memory you may have to install the Marvell console driver.........and Raid utility to get rid of the ATA Device error.......if you hate the desktop icon ....you can alway drop it off the desk.
Aussie Allan
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Sorry for OT but its quite unexpected to see that You failure13 are writing from Belgium but Your OS is in Russian :D
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Sorry for OT but its quite unexpected to see that You failure13 are writing from Belgium but Your OS is in Russian :D
Vapperhiir
....................... And your point is !....?....?.....
......Sometimes the most obvious things are best left alone............
..............When you see a Bloody big dog with Huge nuts.....
........................you don't yank em!................... ;)
Aussie Allan
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I was just wondering that it is surprising in a good way to see something familiar in UK forum. Nothing other then good recognizing of something.
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Im an Australian living in the UK.........go figure!
Aussie Allan
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Aussie Allan
Good explanation, thanks a lot!
Also problem with Marvell is gone when i installed everything as you said of course, just wondering if i need to install those drivers at all, since it working as it is :))
....................... And your point is !....?....?.....
......Sometimes the most obvious things are best left alone............
..............When you see a Bloody big dog with Huge nuts.....
........................you don't yank em!................... Wink
WUAAHAHAHAH!!!!!! ))))))))))))))))) That's a damn good statment, lol :D
Vapperhiir
Yep, i'm full of focuses :D
You never know that i'm russian languaged, traveling around the World and playing most extreme electronic music on planet in gimp mask...
Wasting half of his life on reinstallations / overclocking, upgrades etc.
And this is surely bloody truth)
Anyway, big thanks for everyone that have helped me on that!
Speed of harddrive noticeable faster!
I'm really happy on that :)
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Cool, and everybody is welcome here from all over the globe. We have members from just about every country that you could name. The only people not welcome are spammers and it doesn't matter where they come from!
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Aussie Allan
Good explanation, thanks a lot!
Also problem with Marvell is gone when i installed everything as you said of course, just wondering if i need to install those drivers at all, since it working as it is :))
....................... And your point is !....?....?.....
......Sometimes the most obvious things are best left alone............
..............When you see a Bloody big dog with Huge nuts.....
........................you don't yank em!................... Wink
WUAAHAHAHAH!!!!!! ))))))))))))))))) That's a damn good statment, lol :D
Vapperhiir
Yep, i'm full of focuses :D
You never know that i'm russian languaged, traveling around the World and playing most extreme electronic music on planet in gimp mask...
Wasting half of his life on reinstallations / overclocking, upgrades etc.
And this is surely bloody truth)
Anyway, big thanks for everyone that have helped me on that!
Speed of harddrive noticeable faster!
I'm really happy on that :)
Just enjoy your system and music for a while...........you'll probably forget about the one glitch after a while.......if not tackle it down the road if it's still getting under your skin..........Going to take my Bloody big dog for a walk now ;)
Aussie Allan
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(http://i.imgur.com/PxZHV.png)
Just one quick question...If i use remove-device panel daemon only for USB, and never remove hard-drives on fly, can i somehow make this sign show only when some usb / mobile device inserted?
Just like things clean..
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failure13 .......you gotta change that name........what about Stoli7
Possibly...... the only person I know with your exact setup is you.....would you mind testing this theory for a good friend of mine ;)
Yes it is possible.........you'll have to just suck it and see this time buddy!.........Somebody else might step up to the plate with a definitive answer
Aussie Allan
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Hi
I think this is what you are talking about when a non removeable device shows up as a removeable one in the system tray ? If so this is how to fix it.
Right Click the command prompt and select 'Run as Administrator';
Copy and paste the following command into the command prompt:
reg.exe add "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\msahci\Controller(n)\Channel(N)" /f /v TreatAsInternalPort /t REG_DWORD /d 0x00000001
Change (n) for the contoller number – 0 on my machine ie. 'Controller0' and change Channel (N) for the SATA port number – 1 – 5 on my machine ie. Channel1, Channel2, channel3....etc
You can check which controller number and port(s) by using regedit to check the registry keys. The keys can also be be added while your there.
reg.exe add "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\msahci\Controller0\Channel1" /f /v TreatAsInternalPort /t REG_DWORD /d 0x00000001
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The guys a cyborg for sure.......no one keeps that in brain matter ;D ....on ya DM
"Told you failure13 someone would step up to the plate..........thanks again DM!
Aussie Allan
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Aussie Allan
Possibly...... the only person I know with your exact setup is you.....would you mind testing this theory for a good friend of mine Wink
hahha))
There are no frames for the perfection!))
Dark Mantis
thx! exactly what i was looking for, nice and clean :)
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Glad to be able to help but I cannot claim it as my own and there is a run down of it on the Microsoft website somewhere. ;)
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Heh, sometimesx even microsoft is good enough...
Sadly their support is very very hard to reach, i have a major problem with videocard, which is most likely directx problem mixed with nvidia drivers...
And Microsoft haven't answered me for half of year :(
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I never said they would help you though! Once they have your money that is their idea of a fulfilled contract. ::)
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What!..................Microsoft!.................. support!........................ I can assure you................. that was a nasty rumor started by an Indian call Centre from memory..........the free 24/7 support you get when buying a full copy of a MicroSoft OS last exactly 24 mins 7seconds.....after that it's 40 pounds just to place a call..........to India!
Jokes aside.............Microsoft support have lost the plot with red tape.........a legitimate, warranted call to MS..........is a mine field at best just to get a phone number off the support filter......with the focus being to..........validate you copy........... discredit you problem/rights for a Pre- paid free support service..........and acquiring credit card details for billing purposes .............Far superior support services is given for a 22 pound Portable DVD player
Aussie Allan ...Grrrrrrrrr!
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It gets up my nose as well. I know Micro$oft suffers from a lot of counterfeiting of their product but after some of the stunts they have pulled I think they shouldn't moan to loudly. I do find that their approach to try stopping this pirating is really over the top and makes you feel like a criminal even when you have paid top whack for your copy of Windows. Then just try and upgrade your hardware and you will be put through the wringer once again and have to swear on a stack of bibles that you are allowed to use this version on this computer and not let your granny anywhere near it on pain of death! ::)