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Off-Topic => General discussions => Topic started by: soarwitheagles on April 25, 2011, 07:22:28 am
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Hi again everyone!
I was wondering if anyone here has tried Easy Energy Saver and if so, how did you like it?
I was looking for ways to conserve energy and I was wondering if the EES program really works and if it does work, how effective is it?
It's me,
Soar
PS Easy Tune 6 crashed system after system after system some years ago and I promised myself to NEVER try Easy Tune ever again. Well, unfortunate for me, I downloaded and installed it tonight hoping they finally solved major issues with it. Nothing but problems and headaches! I wish I had never gotten my hopes up that Gigabyte finally fixed it!
It crashed the system and then it would not even uninstall after several attempts. It seems to have messed up some weird GUI process [ID 3680].
Gigabyte should take it off the market!
AAAUUUGGGHHHHHH! So frustrating!
Dear Mr. and Mrs. Gigabyte,
You make awesome motherboards. I am so happy with each MOBO I have purchased and used over the years. No one comes even near you in your quality, expertise, and reliability of your motherboards and for this I am so thankful.
But your software you offer with the motherboards is so disappointing. Nearly every time I have tried to use your software over the last several years it has caused me nothing but heartache and frustration [as in BSOD's unable to uninstall, and great system instability]. May I suggest you stick with what you do well [make motherboards] and protect your good name by no longer making any software.
Or, if you do want to continue making software, fired your entire software department and start all over again from the ground up!
Thank you very, very much!
Happy with your MB's/Sad with your software
Soar
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Hi Soar,
As I'm sure you know this is my feeling as well regarding the bundled software. On the whole I find it certainly imports more problems than it solves and as you quite rightly say often it is not easy to unistall amd clean off the system completely.
Personally I have found this problem with other motherboard manufacturers as well, it is not something peculiar to Gigabyte. It is a bit of a sales technique to add value in the eyes of the prospective purchaser but I am sure that the majority of people are wise to this now. If they really wanted to include something extra then a proper retail backup program or a revamped manual would be more appreciated.
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Hi Soar,
As I'm sure you know this is my feeling as well regarding the bundled software. On the whole I find it certainly imports more problems than it solves and as you quite rightly say often it is not easy to unistall amd clean off the system completely.
Personally I have found this problem with other motherboard manufacturers as well, it is not something peculiar to Gigabyte. It is a bit of a sales technique to add value in the eyes of the prospective purchaser but I am sure that the majority of people are wise to this now. If they really wanted to include something extra then a proper retail backup program or a revamped manual would be more appreciated.
Yes, you are so right DM. Yet, it doesn't seem all that difficult to spend a little more time and design some good software that would get the job done well. I am curious why they would slack off in this area after putting so much time and effort to create such great motherboards...it just doesn't make very good business sense to me...
If they included excellent software along with the great motherboards, they would probably capture much more of the market.
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I think the problem is that as with most companies they are really run by accountants and trying to get them to see futher than their spreadsheets is very difficult. Just because something could make more in the long term trying to get them to invest in that is next to impossible.
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I think the problem is that as with most companies they are really run by accountants and trying to get them to see futher than their spreadsheets is very difficult. Just because something could make more in the long term trying to get them to invest in that is next to impossible.
Well, that sounds a bit short-sighted if you ask me!
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Well, that sounds a bit short-sighted if you ask me!
Soar, you're just a customer and as such don't you realise your views, along with all us other poor shmucks, doesn't really count? :o
Having had quite a few conversations about the software, Gigabyte doesn't believe there are any problems with it so I think they are quite happy to leave it alone. Most experienced users have learnt the hard way NOT to install anything from the disk that comes with the motherboard as it invariably causes more problems than it solves. Yes, we have all tried them out, in the hope that the programmes will give us some benefits and in some instances the software works OK, but it's free and as such, doesn't always offer the best solution. I have a stack of install disks from various sources, Canon, M-Audio, Panasonic, LG, Gigabyte, etc, etc, and all any of them have been really useful for is bird scarers, coasters or skeets.
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Well, that sounds a bit short-sighted if you ask me!
Soar, you're just a customer and as such don't you realise your views, along with all us other poor shmucks, doesn't really count? :o
Having had quite a few conversations about the software, Gigabyte doesn't believe there are any problems with it so I think they are quite happy to leave it alone. Most experienced users have learnt the hard way NOT to install anything from the disk that comes with the motherboard as it invariably causes more problems than it solves. Yes, we have all tried them out, in the hope that the programmes will give us some benefits and in some instances the software works OK, but it's free and as such, doesn't always offer the best solution. I have a stack of install disks from various sources, Canon, M-Audio, Panasonic, LG, Gigabyte, etc, etc, and all any of them have been really useful for is bird scarers, coasters or skeets.
LOL!
Well, ok, at least now I know what to do with all these discs!
Have a good one DM!
Soar
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Well, that sounds a bit short-sighted if you ask me!
Soar, you're just a customer and as such don't you realise your views, along with all us other poor shmucks, doesn't really count? :o
Having had quite a few conversations about the software, Gigabyte doesn't believe there are any problems with it so I think they are quite happy to leave it alone. Most experienced users have learnt the hard way NOT to install anything from the disk that comes with the motherboard as it invariably causes more problems than it solves. Yes, we have all tried them out, in the hope that the programmes will give us some benefits and in some instances the software works OK, but it's free and as such, doesn't always offer the best solution. I have a stack of install disks from various sources, Canon, M-Audio, Panasonic, LG, Gigabyte, etc, etc, and all any of them have been really useful for is bird scarers, coasters or skeets.
LOL!
Well, ok, at least now I know what to do with all these discs!
Have a good one DM!
Soar
I make wind chimes out of mine! Seriously I never let the driver/software disk touch a new build. The drivers are old and the software might as well be a virus. I have used Asus, Gigabyte and MSI boards over the years and they are all the same. The software sucks beyond belief.
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I think the more energy used by a computer is good. I believe there is an equation like:
WATTS * MEGAHURTZ = FPS
As you can see the FPS observed is directly proportional to the power consumption.
On a more serious note, I think the speedstep on the CPU and GPU 2d states reduce the consumption enough when the power isn't needed for me. I have a energy meter measuring the total consumption of the house and even when gaming my rig accounts for a few pence per hour, depending on the game.
You could have a go at underclocking? That would probably be much more effective.
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You could have a go at underclocking? That would probably be much more effective.
and boring ! He could always buy a iPad, but I mean let's stay real! ;D ;D I wonder if they are still selling those wind up computers.....
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Well, that sounds a bit short-sighted if you ask me!
Soar, you're just a customer and as such don't you realise your views, along with all us other poor shmucks, doesn't really count? :o
Having had quite a few conversations about the software, Gigabyte doesn't believe there are any problems with it so I think they are quite happy to leave it alone. Most experienced users have learnt the hard way NOT to install anything from the disk that comes with the motherboard as it invariably causes more problems than it solves. Yes, we have all tried them out, in the hope that the programmes will give us some benefits and in some instances the software works OK, but it's free and as such, doesn't always offer the best solution. I have a stack of install disks from various sources, Canon, M-Audio, Panasonic, LG, Gigabyte, etc, etc, and all any of them have been really useful for is bird scarers, coasters or skeets.
LOL!
Well, ok, at least now I know what to do with all these discs!
Have a good one DM!
Soar
I make wind chimes out of mine! Seriously I never let the driver/software disk touch a new build. The drivers are old and the software might as well be a virus. I have used Asus, Gigabyte and MSI boards over the years and they are all the same. The software sucks beyond belief.
Thanks!
I'll use the discs to scare the birds out of our garden!
Soar
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Hey, I'm back! ;D
I'll be frank Soar. Why would you even consider using that Energy Saver software? It won't be any better ( if not worse ) than what's already implemented into your CPU and GPU. I don't see the point of tampering with RAM and HDD power consumption as it's low anyway. Fans, either use auto control from the MB or a fan controller.
Myself, I'm only using a modified Cool'n'Quiet for the kicks of it ( and better control of the p-states ) and a lower clocked idle profile for my power hog of a GPU. Tampering with GPU profiles makes no sense with cards newer than GTX 200s and HD 4000s, though. They're clocked down to the limit anyway.
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Hey, I'm back! ;D
I'll be frank Soar. Why would you even consider using that Energy Saver software? It won't be any better ( if not worse ) than what's already implemented into your CPU and GPU. I don't see the point of tampering with RAM and HDD power consumption as it's low anyway. Fans, either use auto control from the MB or a fan controller.
Myself, I'm only using a modified Cool'n'Quiet for the kicks of it ( and better control of the p-states ) and a lower clocked idle profile for my power hog of a GPU. Tampering with GPU profiles makes no sense with cards newer than GTX 200s and HD 4000s, though. They're clocked down to the limit anyway.
Well, the main reason I was interested in Energy Saving Software was to....save energy! I like to keep costs down in every area of life.
Recently I decided to stop recording the free digital movies here in the USA [I was using a Hauppauge TV capture card and my computer was on 24/7. After capturing literally hundreds upon hundreds of free and legal movies, I decided I have enough!
So, now, my computer is only on for 2-3 hours per day and energy conservation is no longer an issue.
BTW, what video card are you presently using?
Soar
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I like to keep costs down in every area of life.
I try to do the same as long as it's not hurting performance :).
BTW, what video card are you presently using?
Behold the power hog - HD 4870x2! I'm somewhat torn on this card. It was reasonably cheaper than the HD 5870 but there are some serious drawbacks to it. The power consumption is about twice as high and it's 2 processors instead of 1 which adds crossfire issues and other potential problems. It's a good space heater during winter, though!
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Wow, you must be keeping warm, especially in the summer! Time you upgraded to a 5970 I reckon and save yourself a lot of money on the bills as well as extra performance.
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I'm certainly thinking about it but they're a little hard to find here ;D. I have to say I'm quite interested what 28nm will bring to the table, though. I don't really use my GPU all that much so the power consumption isn't that big of an issue.
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I'm certainly thinking about it but they're a little hard to find here ;D. I have to say I'm quite interested what 28nm will bring to the table, though. I don't really use my GPU all that much so the power consumption isn't that big of an issue.
Ok, cool!
Any thoughts on these new Z68 MOBO's?
Soar
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Ok, cool!
Any thoughts on these new Z68 MOBO's?
Soar
Yes my thought is that they should send me one to play around with! ;D Preferably the UD7!
The one thing that I do think lets down a lot of these boards is the lack of SATA ports and SATA3 ports in particular. Most boards have only two and even the top of the range UD7 has only four.
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Ok, cool!
Any thoughts on these new Z68 MOBO's?
Soar
Yes my thought is that they should send me one to play around with! ;D Preferably the UD7!
The one thing that I do think lets down a lot of these boards is the lack of SATA ports and SATA3 ports in particular. Most boards have only two and even the top of the range UD7 has only four.
Your point is well taken DM....yet if I found a good deal on the Z68 UD7 I would probably jump on it in a moment!
I am still trying to figure out what the term "Discrete Graphic Card is required " is saying!
What is a "Discrete Graphic Card" if I may politely ask?
EDIT: Ok, I just Googled it and was surprised to find such an easy answer:
An integrated video card is "integrated" into the motherboard. That means the motherboard has a video card built in.
A "discrete" video card means that you have a separate video card, one that typically plugs in to one of the expansion slots.
I sure felt dumb after reading the definition!
Duh!
Soar
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Thing is everything is easy when you know the answer. Often it is just a case of not understanding the terminology used.
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Soar.....I'm in a quandary on this one mate.......We/I work so hard to get every ounce of performance out of our systems, why in God's name would I want to throttle it back or have some Gigabyte software utility (haven't you learnt your lesson yet!) adjusting voltages up and down per second after we've spent month tweaking it to run hard and smooth on the abyss.
I think I'll do my bit to save the worlds energy by shutting down and going to bed 15 minutes earlier each night!
On the subject of crook software and all the crap it can leave behind, my motto is " Only pay for software you really need or really have too!"
Revo Uninstaller comes in two flavours , free and pro.........it actually does a pretty tidy job and always picks up files and folders on the second or forced sweep, I have so much review software going through my machine , it's a credit to the developers I'm not doing a fresh install quarterly.
Aussie Allan
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Revo is a brilliant uninstaller utility. If you run it at the deepest level there is practically nothing that it misses. I would agree though that it's best not to use any software that is not absolutely necessary. At best it only clogs your machine and slows things down and at worst, well....... :o
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Soar.....I'm in a quandary on this one mate.......We/I work so hard to get every ounce of performance out of our systems, why in God's name would I want to throttle it back or have some Gigabyte software utility (haven't you learnt your lesson yet!) adjusting voltages up and down per second after we've spent month tweaking it to run hard and smooth on the abyss.
I think I'll do my bit to save the worlds energy by shutting down and going to bed 15 minutes earlier each night!
On the subject of crook software and all the crap it can leave behind, my motto is " Only pay for software you really need or really have too!"
Revo Uninstaller comes in two flavours , free and pro.........it actually does a pretty tidy job and always picks up files and folders on the second or forced sweep, I have so much review software going through my machine , it's a credit to the developers I'm not doing a fresh install quarterly.
Aussie Allan
Allan,
Yes, I totally see your point! I never thought of it before, but to risk all your time and effort of fine tuning your rig on overclocking software or energy saving software that is questionable and/or sub par makes no sense at all!
I will definitely look at the Revo uninstaller!
Thanks for the good advice Allan!
Soar
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Your more then welcome soar, I still load-up new apps and software board manufactures churn out hoping for a magic bullet find, but the reality is there like finding a two headed turtle...........Revo usually kicks in within a week...........if you still have some glass platers in you machine , ...another brilliant one is "Ultimate defrag" worth it's weight in gold for the $29.00 US for the top version......if you get into it, it can even arrange your drive to put the programs you use the most on the edge next to MTF and storage on the inner rings.there's also some meaty savings via a excellent tutorial about system compression of sys., dll and exe file touting speed increases of 400% to 600%........don't know about 600% but I got some pretty handy speed increases....maybe 300% ....have a look anyway ,...a good read at worst.......
The Ultimate Tutorial For Optimizing Your Hard Drive For 400% to 600% Better Raw Performance....
http://www.disktrix.com/UDFree.htm
that's the link for a free older copy to have play with but I have it on all machine at home including the kids.......configure and forget, ... my type of software.
Aussie Allan
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Your more then welcome soar, I still load-up new apps and software board manufactures churn out hoping for a magic bullet find, but the reality is there like finding a two headed turtle...........Revo usually kicks in within a week...........if you still have some glass platers in you machine , ...another brilliant one is "Ultimate defrag" worth it's weight in gold for the $29.00 US for the top version......if you get into it, it can even arrange your drive to put the programs you use the most on the edge next to MTF and storage on the inner rings.there's also some meaty savings via a excellent tutorial about system compression of sys., dll and exe file touting speed increases of 400% to 600%........don't know about 600% but I got some pretty handy speed increases....maybe 300% ....have a look anyway ,...a good read at worst.......
The Ultimate Tutorial For Optimizing Your Hard Drive For 400% to 600% Better Raw Performance....
http://www.disktrix.com/UDFree.htm
that's the link for a free older copy to have play with but I have it on all machine at home including the kids.......configure and forget, ... my type of software.
Aussie Allan
Allan,
Thank you for the tutorial and software site. I will definitely give it a whirl and I look forward to seeing some speed ups!
Have a good one!
Soar