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Title: 1600 MHz Ram
Post by: Zipperbag on May 27, 2011, 04:12:40 pm
I actually have several questions in reguards to the new Mobo (G1.Guerrila), but I would like some basic info in reguards to ram..

In reguards to the ram, I have entered BIOS and selected an XMP profile (1600 MHz).  Now Ive read that I need to OC just to use this speed, but it appears that this OC is done automatically maintaining AUTO settings? 

fyi ram is 8 8 8 24 (1.5 v.)  CPU 920 CO

Thanx Zip
Title: Re: 1600 MHz Ram
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 27, 2011, 08:28:31 pm
Hi

Basically the only overclock is that of the memory speed and that is done under the XMP setting. There is no reason to touch anything other than this unless you have any problems.
Title: Re: 1600 MHz Ram
Post by: Zipperbag on May 29, 2011, 06:17:16 pm
thank you for the responce Dark,

I already did have some issues with certain programs like extreme hard drive, that I believe are corrected.

For now I really just want to eliminate any possible issues like QPI linkspeed being incorrect (sorry for poor terimnolgy if incorrect)  I might be incorrect, but shouldnt I be setting linkspeed to 36x for instance, and disabling C1E.   I do have pretty good cooling and would not mind a slight OC, but more for gamning performance (tighter timings etc. would be nice)

by chance do you have a link for me or could suggest a few settings?

p.s. this is my first mobo that allows making these type of changes, about all I know to do is write down my settings!



Title: Re: 1600 MHz Ram
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 29, 2011, 07:23:50 pm
Hi

If you are not worried about being "green" and having a higher electricity bill doesn't phase you then yes you can kill all the power saving modes and make the system run at full speed all the time. This will obviously also impact on the life of the CPU especially. Whiole I could just tell you a bunch of settings to make you are not going to learn anything from them. So I would advise you to do some reading up on the subject so that you understand not only what you are doing but why you are doing it.

Start here for info: http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/board,21.0.html
Title: Re: 1600 MHz Ram
Post by: Zipperbag on May 29, 2011, 07:54:07 pm
Thank you Dark!

I actually have some things to do,so I wont be ablke to respond back soon.  Basically I have seen a couple spontaneous reboots, and Im curious if I might have too many sound programs enabled/started.  Im running Win 7 and basically went about enabling EAX 5.0 etc, and now Im considering that this could in fact be causing the issue?  It appears from your responce that I should have little to no issue running the ram at said speed...

I just tried running BC2 again today and system bluecreened!  I really havnt done much but been surfing the net for about the last week (giving the tim time to set)  I did have an issue w/ punkbuster, but manually updated it.

This problem may be my own fault downloading and using some of the updated downloads as opposed too just installing everything from disc.  The reason I say this is that if its not sound related, it could be the killer nic driver (I dunno)

Zip
Title: Re: 1600 MHz Ram
Post by: Zipperbag on May 29, 2011, 08:03:25 pm
Hey Dark

I just clicked Sound Blaster panel and "select audio device"  It had AMD HD Device selected, that may be my issue right there.  So anyway thanx for your help and I hope to look at this again tomorrow...
Title: Re: 1600 MHz Ram
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 29, 2011, 11:13:23 pm
I don't know what hardware you have but I expect that your graphics card is a AMD Radeon. If so the audio driver was probably the HD Audio on the GPU.
Title: Re: 1600 MHz Ram
Post by: Zipperbag on May 30, 2011, 03:32:57 am
Hey Dark

yeah its AMD, but wasnt the problem...

Zip
Title: Re: 1600 MHz Ram
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 30, 2011, 02:01:44 pm
So did you find the problem then ?
Title: Re: 1600 MHz Ram
Post by: Zipperbag on May 30, 2011, 05:53:28 pm
No Sir  not a clue really  I spent a few hours this morning going thru my router (figuring maybe it was stopping the game)  I had to do a reset and reinstall the software...

I uninstalled the AMD Audio, which was promptly replaced by MS drivers ( so I disabled them).

 I also disabled the feature to turn the monitor off, because it seems like the system will run the game for a specific time before the blue screen.

My video card has a factory OC in the bios, and AMD Overdrive shows the clocks but its locked.  Im gonna unlock and test/check the clock.

I also changed the setting to auto-reboot disabled, but really didnt see anything meaningful on the bluescreen.  Im probably going to try a clean boot and or reinstall the game.  I also emailed Antec asking what setting the CPU fan control should be set at, but no responce yet.  I have it set on auto, but really all it controls is the pump.  (havnt tried it with fans at max, because the chill software ramps em up as needed)

Do you have any suggestions to try?  I imagine it would be wise to try running straight from the modem to eliminate the router causing issues.
Title: Re: 1600 MHz Ram
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 30, 2011, 06:19:11 pm
Yes it is always a good idea to try and remove anything unnecessary from the equation.

Have you turned off all the Windows power savings features as well as the ones in the BIOS ?

You are not running a "Green" disk drive are you ?

You said you had BSODs. What was the stop code on them and was it always the same one ?
Title: Re: 1600 MHz Ram
Post by: Zipperbag on May 30, 2011, 06:25:01 pm
No I havnt turned off anything except the Monitor shutdown after 20 mins inactivity ( I set it to never)

I believe it was just numbers, can I check event viewer and find the exact number or?  But yeah think its the same one each time
Title: Re: 1600 MHz Ram
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 30, 2011, 06:32:37 pm
I would advise you to turn off all the Windows power saving modes.

The code will be  a number. It will look something like STOP: 0x00000101
Title: Re: 1600 MHz Ram
Post by: Zipperbag on May 30, 2011, 06:51:05 pm
Im going to have to write it down or something (if/when happens again) because I cant really find it..  Im going to disable Power saving modes in windows as suggested..

I did find this under administrative events" critical event 41 (system rebooted without shutting down) which I believe is more the result not cause, but has the number 0x8000000000000002 "

Im off tomorrow so can probably spend some more time challenging this issue.

Zip
Title: Re: 1600 MHz Ram
Post by: Zipperbag on May 30, 2011, 07:37:45 pm
Doh, I missed the part about disabling power saving features in bios.  Actually I have a WD black (sata 2), I actually was considering a raid 10 w/ 4 scorpios and a small SSD for my game...

Im actually trying to follow your guidance verbatim, just an fyi.  I guess Im a little tired, because I thought you was referrin to major changes in bios.  Everything is stock as can be except Im gonna change the power saving as advised...

btw I believe I recall seeing an error like ATI driver has stopped responding on my old system (but I didnt get a blue screen)  The game shut down and the driver reset.  This didnt happen like clockwork as Im seeing now though.  I guess I should probably uninstall /reinstall the video card drivers too, because I already uninstalled the game, planning to reinstall tomorrow.

Once again thank you for all the help so far Dark!
Title: Re: 1600 MHz Ram
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 30, 2011, 07:44:16 pm
You are very welcome and it's no trouble.


It would certainly be worth uninstalling the driver and seeing if there is a more up to date one available at the same time. I just had mine updated automatically so there could well be.
Title: Re: 1600 MHz Ram
Post by: Zipperbag on June 01, 2011, 05:23:34 pm
Well I unistalled ATI CC, and just installed the driver.  I also reinstalled the game and updated it.
Hey Dark,

Heres the errors that came up: 0x00000124 followed by a long 0x000000000, and 0xfffffa80081cf028, 0x00000000b6000000, 0x0000000000200001


btw I played the solo mission offline for sometime with no issue (seemed like awhile anyway) but as you can see theres the mumbo jumbo displayed above. 


Im kinda hoping you may have a suggestion, program to test or what not.  Id also like your thoughts on possibly a new graphics card fixing the issue?  I been planning to upgrade my card, mainly because its an older HD 4850 (10.1)

p.s.  Heres a link to a forum discussing what appears a very similiar issue http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/5530645.page;jsessionid=1CDE6A7CDCBF55F47467BB22D9E763F9#13089873  ( I only found it just now because I googled before asking you "Do you believe Punkbuster could be causing the BSOD")  The only bad part is that no solution is listed...

Zip

Title: Re: 1600 MHz Ram
Post by: Zipperbag on June 02, 2011, 08:04:02 am
Hey Dark (and anyone else with ET6 installed)

First off, I kinda like the idea of the OC button on the back of the mobo, it reminds me of the turbo button on my 233MMX.  But anyway I mostly installed ET6 to make sure the button works LOL (I still havnt tried any settings change or the button)

The Gigabyte German board has a post reguarding BC2 & ET6 compatibility.  http://forum.gigabyte.de/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=3654  The original post reguarding (1155) is dated March, so is this issue resolved with the updated ET6 or is this even an issue?

p.s.  How accurate would you say the CPU temp is listed under ET6?
Title: Re: 1600 MHz Ram
Post by: Dark Mantis on June 02, 2011, 08:41:59 pm
Hi

Thanks for the detailed stop code from the BSOD. The problem is nothing to do with your graphics card but your QPI/Vtt setting.

0x00000124 << incorrect QPI/Vtt voltage  maybe be too high or too low. You need to go into the BIOS/MIT section and try tweaking it a bit. Make a note of the original setting first.
Title: Re: 1600 MHz Ram
Post by: Zipperbag on June 02, 2011, 08:49:42 pm
Grrr  I coulda swore that when I selected Profile 1 that QPI showed something like 1.3 while Profile 2 showed 1.1 or something.  So I been spending time reading on this issue (little tired)  But is it possible with all the Auto settings that even though I select Profile 1 and it shows 1.3 that somehow it falls back to 1.1?  I coulda swore I seen this number change without my changing it. 

Thanx for the answer though!  Im gonna look at the settings tomorrow
Title: Re: 1600 MHz Ram
Post by: Zipperbag on June 03, 2011, 07:34:15 pm
Hey Dark.

I have been to the Corsair forum about this Ram. (Cmz6gx3m3a1600c8)  Im not so sure that this was the best choice.  I just tried the ram at 1.64v and still got the 124 error in-game.

Should I try adjusting QPI/VTT, with Ram at 1.64v?  or re-install OS 

Im beginning to believe that I need to plan to pickup some Ram thats on the approved list



Zip
Title: Re: 1600 MHz Ram
Post by: Dark Mantis on June 03, 2011, 10:04:13 pm
Adjusting the memory voltage is not the same as the QPI/Vtt. While you are there though increase the memory voltage to 1.66v. Don't worry about the colour change it is not a problem.
Title: Re: 1600 MHz Ram
Post by: Zipperbag on June 05, 2011, 02:55:21 pm
Hey Dark!

I'm not so sure this has anything to do with my memory or anything, but Do you know much about the Fan/Temp sensors?  I have my Cooler plugged into the CPU Fan, but the rest of my fans run off a controller.  

The System 1 Temp is running warm/Hott, I was just waking up last night when I checked on it last (I know it was really red, wanna say it registered 212C).

Today I have all Fans running full tilt, almost all readings @ 30.  System 2 Temp shows 34, while System 1 is at 42 (no load on system)

Just a few mins with fans idling and System 1 temp is at 50.  I have no clue where the sensor is, but Fan 1 is located below the PCI socket.  For reference water is at 33
 CPU shows 35
 Sys 34
 Sys1 51(currently, but not rising at idle anyway)
 Sys2 43
 Sys3 35

Is it safe to say these are accurate temps?  Does the Mobo display the same exact numbers?  Im asking because if this isnt actual temps, maybe I should disable/uninstall ET6 and see how system runs in game.  However if its even remotely close, I guess I need to figure out how to mount a side fan.  Although Im not so sure that would come close to cooling what I believe the temps actual hit per ET6...

Zip

P.S.  Only one fan I didnt crank up earlier (GPU).  My card is overclocked, and Ive always kept it at auto.  The temp can hit 65C and fan speed stays zero.  So anyway I checked Sys 1 temp, and it had lowered some (wanna say 47).  I went into catylist control center and selected enable manual control, and set it to 80 percent.  This dropped my GPU to 38, and Sys 1 is currently 39 (Sys 2 is still 43).  fyi:  I just turned off manual control, GPU back up to 61, and Sys 1 at 46.  I imagine I should be concerned with Sys2 temp, but again Sys 1 is the temp that lead me to turn machine off and stop any further game testing (QPI/VTT adjustments)  I feel kinda dumb saying it read 212, because it sounds unbelievable to me!
Title: Re: 1600 MHz Ram
Post by: Dark Mantis on June 05, 2011, 04:34:55 pm
I doubt very much that 212C was an accurate reading unless it was smoking well at the time. Probably just a malfunctioning sensor.
Title: Re: 1600 MHz Ram
Post by: Zipperbag on June 05, 2011, 05:58:30 pm
Hey Dark,

I exited ET6 and set my video card at 75% fan power and still no BSOD!  It may still be early though, believe I made it this long before I forget.

Im gonna enjoy some gaming and hope to get back with you @ Tuesday and maybe you can offer some suggestions/precautions!

Thanx Zip!
Title: Re: 1600 MHz Ram
Post by: Zipperbag on June 08, 2011, 03:54:30 am
Hey Dark

I have yet to see any outlandish temps, but according to ET6 default setting's, temps are in excess.  (40C default)

I believe one good sign is evident, its a little warmer ambient temp right now, leading to the Sys temp reading 39.  Sys 1/2 appear to be at their same temps as earlier (48, 45).

Is there a chance you could provide a link/links that maybe covers settings/ temp guide for my board.  Would you be concerned if your Sys1 or Sys 2 temps were running mid to upper 40 C?
 
Edit:  While Im sitting here watching some E3 on Spike!  My system entered sleep mode for several minutes, clicked my mouse, System 1 sitting at 100 C...  I believe I know why I seen 212 earlier!

I exited ET6, and restarted it.  Temp showing 100, incidentally 100 appears max, because while the red is disappating some, still showing 100C/212F


Zip