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Questions about GIGABYTE products => Motherboards with AMD processors => Topic started by: svalx on August 24, 2010, 07:02:28 am

Title: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: svalx on August 24, 2010, 07:02:28 am
I try to flash modified BIOS by Q-Flash. It finish well, but motherboad do not start now. I hoped to DualBIOS tecnology, but it not work for me.
Last POST code on display is 02h and after that reboot again. No beeps...
Please, help me! How i can recovery my bios manualy?
Title: Re: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: absic on August 24, 2010, 07:07:03 am
Hi there,

could you post back with details of your motherboard?
Title: Re: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: svalx on August 24, 2010, 07:19:03 am
Hi absic115!
What details you are need? GA-890FXA-UD7 (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3416#sp) BIOS F3
Title: Re: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: absic on August 24, 2010, 07:26:58 am
Yes, that's what we needed.

Right, first things first, welcome to the forum!
When a BIOS Flash goes bad the first thing to do is try and re-set CMOS. If your not sure how to do this check out this FAQ: http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,2286.0.html

If you follow this procedure there is a good chance that your BIOS will recover.
Title: Re: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: svalx on August 24, 2010, 07:35:21 am
Thanks. I am necessarily try it today and reply about effect.
Title: Re: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: absic on August 24, 2010, 07:40:04 am
OK  ;)
Title: Re: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: svalx on August 25, 2010, 06:27:35 am
Hello! Му problem is solved. Clear CMOS was unsuccessfully for me. On Russian Gigabyte forum i find а method to reanimate BIOS boot loader: during POST necessary to short 1 & 8 pin on main BIOS chip. This should be done for half a second after 1-3 second after start. Sometimes it does not work the first time and need a few attempts. I turned on the third attempt. After boot loader start, it recovery main BIOS from backup BIOS chip and my computer normally boot!. Thanks for all!
(http://s42.radikal.ru/i098/1008/8c/6e388448d8cd.jpg)
Title: Re: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: absic on August 25, 2010, 07:13:36 am
Pleased this worked for you and great to know you're back up an running.

I have been aware of this "Fix" for a while but am not sure how reliable or safe the procedure is and I haven't tried it for myself.
Title: Re: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: svalx on August 25, 2010, 07:35:35 am
I had no other option except this or programmer in service center but it expensive and time consuming. Regret for such a fine technology as DualBIOS not working as it should be. Requires unconventional and dangerous action to make it work...
Title: Re: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: absic on August 25, 2010, 07:48:32 am
Yes I know very frustrating.

When you tried to update BIOS the first time in QFlash did you disable the "Keep DMI Data"  before flashing the BIOS?
From this:
(http://a.imageshack.us/img837/7002/img0313ws.th.jpg) (http://img837.imageshack.us/i/img0313ws.jpg/)

Change to this:
(http://a.imageshack.us/img838/3614/img0314o.th.jpg) (http://img838.imageshack.us/i/img0314o.jpg/)

Not sure if this may have caused the problem as I am waiting for a response to a technical question I have asked Gigabyte.
Title: Re: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: Christoph on August 25, 2010, 08:12:40 am
1  & 8  ??????


oh shoot I was always trying with 4  and  7


but the main issue here is that dual bios is not working properly as have been said
Title: Re: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 25, 2010, 10:28:59 am
Yes I couldn't understand that! The whole purpose of the DulaBIOS was that if one became corrupted the the backup was supposed to automatically replace it on next boot.That was the whole point of the backup BIOS not being user programmable.  ???
Title: Re: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: Christoph on August 25, 2010, 11:11:27 am
could it mean those 11 beeps that the board could not fix the main bios by the backup?
Title: Re: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: absic on August 25, 2010, 11:18:26 am
could it mean those 11 beeps that the board could not fix the main bios by the backup?

I have raised this question with the forum moderator but, I know he is a bit pressed for time at the moment so might not be able to respond for a couple of days. As soon as I get an answer I'll let you know.
Title: Re: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: Christoph on August 27, 2010, 09:09:53 am

do you mean that only one person is who answer all of our questions?
Title: Re: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 27, 2010, 09:49:30 am
Yes, there is only one Gigabyte employee attached to the forum and he has other duties as well. :-\  
Title: Re: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: svalx on August 28, 2010, 12:20:32 am
When you tried to update BIOS the first time in QFlash did you disable the "Keep DMI Data"  before flashing the BIOS?
I am not disable the "Keep DMI Data" and it was my error. Later i flash the same bios with disabled "Keep DMI Data" and operation has come to the end successfully.
Title: Re: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 28, 2010, 12:27:27 am
Good outcome. This is something that has only recently come to light and we are looking into it now via Gigabyte's representative here on the forum.
Title: Re: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: Christoph on August 29, 2010, 06:58:05 am
really?, what is it now, a week?, and i do not see the reply to the mail i send to gigabyte.   and to think that i changed side from asus and just for this crap.   hey i'm typing from my cellphone cuz guess what, my comp. is not working
Title: Re: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 29, 2010, 10:05:38 am
Yes, I do understand and that is why we try to do what we can to help here on the forum. Most of these big companies are the same when iot comes to backup, they don't like to pay for more employees to speed up the customer queries as it is dead money in their eyes. Very short sighted in my view. Anyway if we can do anythinmg more via this forum we will so keep in touch.
Title: Re: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: Christoph on August 29, 2010, 09:09:13 pm

yeap


they has not even read the mail I sent
Title: Re: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 29, 2010, 09:35:00 pm
I do understand your frustration and have even tried to exlain this shortcoming to Gigabyte but they seem not to understand. Only yesterday I wrote them an email saying how members felt let down and in despair because of the way GGTS doesn't even read the questions for ages. Sad.
Title: Re: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: Christoph on August 29, 2010, 09:47:52 pm
going to RMA
Title: Re: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: runn3R on September 02, 2010, 11:28:54 am
Hi svalx

If you don't upgrade into F4 bios with "Keep DMI data" disabled (or in other words with DMI cleared) in Q-FLash, it will lead into the following sequence:
- Can't boot up with main bios
- Boot up from backup bios instead of main one.
- Copy backup bios to main bios

We have done several tests on GA-890FXA-UD7 (2.0) last days and confirmed it. After checking with bios engineers, your motherboard which failed to boot up from backup bios should be checked by RMA anyway because the problem is not due to not clearing DMI data.
Title: Re: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: Christoph on September 02, 2010, 06:38:40 pm
ok ok  then the last time i flash to f4 i got the screen from the backup bios, which means that the backup bios is only good for one boot, someone should've say that
Title: Re: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: svalx on September 03, 2010, 05:25:14 am
Hi all!

I am upgrade my BIOS to F4 without any issues using Q-Flash. I set “Keep DMI data” to “Disabled” when flashing.
Title: Re: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: Christoph on September 03, 2010, 07:33:18 pm
what cpu do you have? are you using amd overdrive in any way?
Title: Re: GA-890FXA-UD7 do not start after flash bad BIOS
Post by: svalx on September 05, 2010, 06:57:31 pm
I have AMD Phenom II x4 965 C3 Processor. AMD Overdrive is installed, but i am commonly not using it, prefer BIOS settings.