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Title: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Myasinax on July 24, 2011, 10:07:19 pm
I'm sure there are some of you out there like myself that have more than 1 x 3TB drive and want to arrange them in a RAID array. I currently have bought 6, to place with the Intel ICH10R controller found on my and most other Gigabyte boards. My board is a X58-UD3R Rev 1.0. Now Intel currently does not support drives >2.2 TB on the Intel chipset, but just last month Asus managed a workaround in their BIOS which allows the formation of a RAID array using 3TB drives. Although Intel are claiming that "greater than 2.2TB RAID support is coming in future revisions" of the storage controller, it's been over 7 months since that claim and 1 year since 3TB were commercially available.
I wonder if Gigabyte has any intention of updating it's BIOS as Asus have done to allow 3TB RAID arrays to work with the Intel chipset?  :)
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Aussie Allan on July 24, 2011, 10:46:40 pm


  "SIX THREE TB HARD DRIVES".........."Are you Mad"..........Serious bragging rites for porn storage!......Even Patriot Missile battery's don't carry this much storage!

  Oh Well! where there's a will theres a way!.........have a look at the RocketRaid PCI-E card by HighPoint.........the 640 card does SATA3 over 4 ports and from memory can handle large arays......0,1,5 and 10 I think........does JBOD as well so you could even link them into one massive 18TB drive

 Ive got 4 SamSung SpinPoints F3s (502HJ) in raid0 for storage and get 530Mb/s on a short stroke bench

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: F5BJR on July 24, 2011, 11:16:16 pm
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This solution sure is good : 4 * TowerRaid TRM5M+B with  5 * 3TB harddisks Hitachi (0F12456)

and as Aussie Allan one RR640 HighPoint card

http://www.sansdigital.com/towerraid-/tr5mplusb.html

Pierre
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: F5BJR on July 24, 2011, 11:36:41 pm
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Finnaly i think that is possible if you find a hacked BIOS for your motherBoard with last OROM INTEL ( 10.5.1064 ) and last driver

But you cannot boot a big RAID partition in GPT because GigaByte BIOS is not UEFI

For boot use another harddisk or also possible if you have 2 * partitions ( a little for boot in NTFS and another big partition in GPT for datas )

But i cannot test because i have not 3TB harddisks !!!

Pierre

* If i have a little time i hack a BIOS with last OROM for you ...

Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: F5BJR on July 25, 2011, 12:02:58 am
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I cannot test , i have not you motherboard card but i have updated your F7M ( last beta ) with OROM  v10.5.1.1070 for test

*** obviously has your own risk ***

filesonic : http://www.filesonic.com/file/1515384681/f7m.rar

remember you cannot boot partition > 2TO

Pierre
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: F5BJR on July 25, 2011, 12:28:38 am
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A little new OROM ( version 10.6.0.1091 ) for the F7M BIOS

filesonic : http://www.filesonic.com/file/1515434704/f7m.rar

Pierre
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Myasinax on July 25, 2011, 01:32:38 am
Hi gents, thanks for all of the responses!! Re the 3TB drives, got a fairly good deal on 6 of them sub £100 each and they are the enterprise editions for RAID. I am basically hosting a server with all of my bluray and music media served to multiple rooms and hence needed the increased storage.

Pierre, I am currently on F8A which is the most recent Beta BIOS, but the previous beta BIOS is F7L. Is it still ok to flash the F7M BIOS, as my board is a Rev 1 UD3R.

The C drive is a OCZ Revo x2, so I do not need to boot from these drives, just create a RAID 5 array on the Intel chipset.

I have looked at the external and internal solutions, but they are expensive and somewhat limiting, as they allow only 4, or 5 disc arrays. I need to use the 6!

Thanks for all of the advice guys, your help is very much appreciated.

 :)
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: F5BJR on July 25, 2011, 02:14:31 am
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Quickly hack the F8A for your GA-X58A-UD3R (rev. 1.0) X58-UD3R not exist !!

filesonic : http://www.filesonic.com/file/1515688754/f8a.rar

Pierre
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: F5BJR on July 25, 2011, 02:27:11 am
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I have this but not infos if Addonics support 3 TB harddisks !!

http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,3338.msg24483.html#msg24483

computer photos :

http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,2373.msg31945.html#msg31945

Pierre

Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Myasinax on July 25, 2011, 02:30:06 am
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I have this but not infos if Addonics support 3 TB harddisks !!

http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,3338.msg24483.html#msg24483

Pierre



Hi Pierre

Thanks, will give it a go, but the other BIOS came up with a BIOS chksum error and the board defaulted to BIOS F4!
Hopefully, the F8A BIOS will work! Can I ask the about the hack that's applied? Does it see the drives as UEFI?

Cheers

 :)
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Myasinax on July 25, 2011, 02:54:31 am
Hi Pierre
Thanks for all of your effort!  :)
No luck with the hacked BIOS I'm afraid.....the basic values are all off ...CPU, Memory etc everytime I go into the BIOS to set the RAID and with each of the BIOS, a chksum error initiates a reboot and fall back to a safe BIOS F4.
It does look like the only solution to this until both Gigabyte and Intel pull their respective fingers out, is for either an external or internal raid card which supports 3TB drives.  :(

Lame.
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: F5BJR on July 25, 2011, 04:26:14 am
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Possible error ... but normally i use for my X58A-UD5 without problem

finnaly i have make possible error with ACPI

i have make a new F8A : http://www.filesonic.com/file/1516322034/f8a_new.rar

--> i have modified also my BIOS and run at this time with the 10.6.0.1091 OROM version !!

Pierre

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I use CBROM32

at startup i extract all parts

after i remove and i reinsert with the old / new parts


Remove.bat

CBROM32 F8A.BIN /OEM7 release
CBROM32 F8A.BIN /GROUP17 release
CBROM32 F8A.BIN /OEM6 release
CBROM32 F8A.BIN /LOGO release
CBROM32 F8A.BIN /OEM0 release
CBROM32 F8A.BIN /GV3 release
CBROM32 F8A.BIN /LOGO1 release
CBROM32 F8A.BIN /PCI release
CBROM32 F8A.BIN /PCI release
CBROM32 F8A.BIN /PCI release
CBROM32 F8A.BIN /PCI release

**

NEW.BAT

CBROM32 F8A.BIN /PCI ICHAAHCI.BIN
CBROM32 F8A.BIN /PCI ICHARAID.BIN
CBROM32 F8A.BIN /PCI JMB10706.BIN
CBROM32 F8A.BIN /PCI rtegrom.lom
pause
CBROM32 F8A.BIN /LOGO1 dbios.bmp
CBROM32 F8A.BIN /GV3 ppminit.rom
CBROM32 F8A.BIN /OEM0 sbf.bin
pause
CBROM32 F8A.BIN /LOGO 333_bios.bmp
CBROM32 F8A.BIN /OEM6 graid.bin
CBROM32 F8A.BIN /GROUP17 m9123fw.bin
CBROM32 F8A.BIN /OEM7 extbios.bin

Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Aussie Allan on July 25, 2011, 07:53:15 am


  Good on you Pierre for going to that much trouble...........

  Myasinax ...........  Ive seen a few new Techs of late that could be used in your situation, at the very least, they should drive down the price of older , similar technology

 1) I still think the PCI-E Raid card option is a cost effective solution worth considering but check the specs on volume limits..........RR640 go for about the $120-140 mark for a internal solution and the 644 for external for about the same

 2) NAS boxes can now be purchased Empty...........which means cheap copies should be filtering through shortly ... check ebay!

 What where talking about here really with what your trying to do is mixing technologies.........to get an easily configurable, stable raid5 setup with 6x3TB drives , ....you may have to look at a separate , independent storage solution and link it to your present system.........this way of thinking will open doors to what hardware is available to you ....... connectivity can then be wired or wireless

  P.S  from experience........5 physical drives is the sweet spot for raid5 and Revodrive x2...........Bloody awesome aren't they! .... also noticed on the OCZ website yesterday..........in the support section , RevoDrive X3 got a mention in the driver list......ooooOOOOOoooo!

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 25, 2011, 10:14:18 am
Yes the Revo X3 is a truly awsome beast. Terrific throughput!
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Myasinax on July 25, 2011, 12:45:53 pm
Cheers guys for all of the advice and again thanks Pierre for your help.
Until Intel support 3TB drives in their raid storage manager, I imagine updating the OROM version in the BIOS will have little effect. The drives are always seen as approximately 750 Gb each when trying to initiate the RAID, as the BIOS can not currently see the already GPT partitioned drives. How Asus got around that without Intel revising it's RAID controller, I'm not so sure??
There are a number of 5-bay solutions that I will look at which support 3TB drives, but the cost increases tenfold when you move to 6 drives and above!

Re the OCZ Revo X3, pretty awesome piece of kit.......... although getting the Revo X2 to work with this board was enough of a headache!!! What has suprisingly worked well for me is the combination of this and 4Gb of my 12Gb RAM used as a temp drive (RAMdisk) and Virtual Memory switched down to zero. System is blazingly fast.  :)
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Aussie Allan on July 25, 2011, 01:16:41 pm
Cheers guys for all of the advice and again thanks Pierre for your help.
Until Intel support 3TB drives in their raid storage manager, I imagine updating the OROM version in the BIOS will have little effect. The drives are always seen as approximately 750 Gb each when trying to initiate the RAID, as the BIOS can not currently see the already GPT partitioned drives. How Asus got around that without Intel revising it's RAID controller, I'm not so sure??
There are a number of 5-bay solutions that I will look at which support 3TB drives, but the cost increases tenfold when you move to 6 drives and above!

Re the OCZ Revo X3, pretty awesome piece of kit.......... although getting the Revo X2 to work with this board was enough of a headache!!! What has suprisingly worked well for me is the combination of this and 4Gb of my 12Gb RAM used as a temp drive (RAMdisk) and Virtual Memory switched down to zero. System is blazingly fast.  :)

 I have the version 2 of this board and yes..... with lots of other kit inside including the RR640 .... was a bitch at times.

 Tell me!.... I'm running 24 gig of memory, so have turned off paging entirely and not bothered to allocate a scratch for photoshop and things seem to be dandy.......can you say if there would be any advantage for me to go down the ramdisc path with some spare memory  as I too am running a Revox2 and 2TBs of photo storage at about 530Mb/s raid0 ??

  P.S  5 bay NAS for about 280.... http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?hl=en&q=5+bay+nas+enclosure&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1067&bih=581&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=4695736190493816901&sa=X&ei=JmAtTrjfOMqnhAfZ3byqCw&ved=0CGEQ8wIwAw

  that will do RAID ( Serial ATA-300 ) - RAID 0, 1, 5, 6, 10, JBOD, 5 hot spare, 0 hot-swap, ect,ect

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: F5BJR on July 25, 2011, 01:45:20 pm
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Possible solution if the 3 TO disks are detected in AHCI mode

Use after Microsoft Diskmanager for mount RAID ( i think that you can with Windows Seven 64 PRO / Ultimate )

Pierre


** --> http://www.servethehome.com/fix-746gb-3tb-hard-drive-issue/

Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Myasinax on July 25, 2011, 03:58:06 pm
I have the version 2 of this board and yes..... with lots of other kit inside including the RR640 .... was a bitch at times.

 Tell me!.... I'm running 24 gig of memory, so have turned off paging entirely and not bothered to allocate a scratch for photoshop and things seem to be dandy.......can you say if there would be any advantage for me to go down the ramdisc path with some spare memory  as I too am running a Revox2 and 2TBs of photo storage at about 530Mb/s raid0 ??

  P.S  5 bay NAS for about 280.... http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?hl=en&q=5+bay+nas+enclosure&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1067&bih=581&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=4695736190493816901&sa=X&ei=JmAtTrjfOMqnhAfZ3byqCw&ved=0CGEQ8wIwAw

  that will do RAID ( Serial ATA-300 ) - RAID 0, 1, 5, 6, 10, JBOD, 5 hot spare, 0 hot-swap, ect,ect

 Aussie Allan

Hi Allan

You certainly won't be using 24Gb of RAM in any situation to be honest and I would definately allocate 4Gb of RAM with RAMdisk as Temp storage. This is the max allowed using the free app from RAMdisk but the paid version allows the use of more RAM and formatting in NTFS. To be honest, as a TEMP cache for Windows 4Gb is more than enough and I believe nothing is faster. The only time I have seen issues with turning Virtual memory/Page file off completely, are there are some games which require a virtual memory (i.e. they wont start unless they can see one), but don't actually need it. Depends if you game alot I guess.

Re the raid enclosures, there are many and as I said before, when you move up to six, the price doubles from 5! Also, getting official confirmation that 3TB drives are supported in the RAID is hard to come by at the moment.

Cheers

Yas :)
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Myasinax on July 25, 2011, 04:08:50 pm
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Possible solution if the 3 TO disks are detected in AHCI mode

Use after Microsoft Diskmanager for mount RAID ( i think that you can with Windows Seven 64 PRO / Ultimate )

Pierre


** --> http://www.servethehome.com/fix-746gb-3tb-hard-drive-issue/
Hi Pierre

That solution only applies to a single 3TB drive connected in AHCI mode. There is no problem connecting the discs this way, as by creating a GPT partition Windows sees the full 3TB drive. The problem is with the Intel chipset drivers which do not see the GPT partitioned discs in RAID mode....they can only see 750Gb (approx) i.e. anything above 2.2TB gets ignored. This is a software fix which I am amazed Intel hasn't managed to implement even though it was promised at the beginning of the year as a future update......pretty poor support. If you speak to Intel, they will just throw you back to the motherboard manufacturer, even though it is their chipset and software which controls the RAID!! Gigabyte BIOS needs to be updated to reflect the new OROM from Intel which should include support for >2.2TB drives. I am just surprised Asus has found a work around.

Rgds

Yas

PS I am using Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit and Windows alows nothing but conversion to GPT with 3TB disks.

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Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: F5BJR on July 25, 2011, 05:18:42 pm
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No if in AHCI mode can find all disks with 3 To

With Windows you can mount software RAID ( not with Intel RAID Manager )

Pierre




Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Myasinax on July 25, 2011, 06:08:31 pm
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No if in AHCI mode can find all disks with 3 To

With Windows you can mount software RAID ( not with Intel RAID Manager )

Pierre


Hi Pierre, on initial installation of 3TB drive in Win7 64, the disks initialize as a GPT partition. Windows shows 750Gb and an unallocated partition of 2.2TB. Once you GPT the drive, Windows disk manager does NOT allow any form of RAID whether it be RAID 0, 1 or 5....they are all greyed out (see image)

Rgds

Yas

Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Aussie Allan on July 25, 2011, 08:38:03 pm
 
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 Hi Allan

You certainly won't be using 24Gb of RAM in any situation to be honest and I would definately allocate 4Gb of RAM with RAMdisk as Temp storage. This is the max allowed using the free app from RAMdisk but the paid version allows the use of more RAM and formatting in NTFS. To be honest, as a TEMP cache for Windows 4Gb is more than enough and I believe nothing is faster. The only time I have seen issues with turning Virtual memory/Page file off completely, are there are some games which require a virtual memory (i.e. they wont start unless they can see one), but don't actually need it. Depends if you game alot I guess.

Re the raid enclosures, there are many and as I said before, when you move up to six, the price doubles from 5! Also, getting official confirmation that 3TB drives are supported in the RAID is hard to come by at the moment.

   Hi ya Yas.........99 times out of 100......I'd have to agree with you........"But"........ my needs are shall we say........."Unusual".... ;)

 The last time I gamed was when "Hidden and Dangerous" was the big thing....crap! I feel old!.......What floats my boat now is rather high end photography, ... specifically HDR (High Dynamic Range) photography.

  5, 7 or even 9 RAW Images with either 14.6 or 24MP combined through PhotoMatix Pro.......then bumped onto CS5 Extended for between 2 to 6 layers with no flattening......even before I get to tweaking ( NIK Sharpener, Vivenza or some fun with "OnOne"plugins) Ive got a single image up to 10 to 12 GB.....toss  in 4 or 5 history states.....so you see , a lot of memory can be utilized.

 So here is the question!.........I was under the impression, if you have truck loads of memory, scratch disc and paging becomes redundant!.... you think other wise.........what i need is fast storage and the fastest workspace I can get my hands on .

 So I have 24GB mem, RevoDrive X2 for "C" Drive (625 to 840 Mb/s) and 4x500 spinpoints-F3-502HJ in raid0 for 525Mb/s for photo storage!

 How will RAMdisc improve my current performance and how exactly do I implement it ...... and 4 gig or 8

 P.S........Yas ...Ive been waiting months for someone with RAMdisc knowledge to come along you lucky boy you ;D..... any help very much appreciated.

 Aussie Allan

   "UPDATE".... Yas!....did a little light reading (Dataram, and 12 different  benchmarks) Dataram is way ahead......and $14 US seem cheap!

  Hears the question though!...... if 10 gig of memory was allocated to RAMdisc, can you partition it into 4 gig for page file and 6 gig for photo-shop scratch disc ??
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Myasinax on July 25, 2011, 09:31:16 pm
No problem Allan (unusual spelling of Alan)

At a push, like yourself, you can use up about 12Gb of RAM, I have very, very occasionallly whilst transcoding HD video files. With 24Gb, you have more than plenty. I would use 4Gb of your RAM as a temp folder for Windows. Remember that downloaded files, transferred files don't go directly from folder to folder....they are infact placed and queued temporarily in the TEMP folder in your C drive. If you go to the advanced tab under your system properties, there is an option for 'Environment variables'. The values of the 'TEMP' and 'TMP' folders can be changed here so that they access the partition created on your RAMdisk and allow the fastest throughput available.
A better explanation can be found here:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAM_disk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAM_disk).
By transferring files through the memory, your C drive can be read, without storing the files in it's temp folder and write to whichever drive straightaway.
The implementation is fairly straightforward, so have a good read and follow the guide step by step and you shouldn't have any problems.
http://memory.dataram.com/products-and-services/software/ramdisk (http://memory.dataram.com/products-and-services/software/ramdisk)
If you do have any problems/questions let me know.

In regards to your storage, I wouldn't like to be in your shoes if a drive fails! Do you back up all of the 2TB of data?

Rgds

Yas
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: F5BJR on July 25, 2011, 09:31:48 pm
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OK disks are in basic mode , normal ( greyed )

program in dynamic and mount RAID ( change to left for modify basic to dynamic  , clic right ... )

as this :

http://www.overclockers.com/setting-up-os-raid-with-windows-7-ultimate/

Pierre
 
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Myasinax on July 25, 2011, 09:59:38 pm
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OK disks are in basic mode , normal ( greyed )

program in dynamic and mount RAID ( change to left for modify basic to dynamic  , clic right ... )

as this :

http://www.overclockers.com/setting-up-os-raid-with-windows-7-ultimate/

Pierre
 

Hi Pierre

Tried that already, same thing, but just for you see below!

Rgds

Yas
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Aussie Allan on July 25, 2011, 10:03:22 pm
No problem Allan (unusual spelling of Alan)

At a push, like yourself, you can use up about 12Gb of RAM, I have very, very occasionallly whilst transcoding HD video files. With 24Gb, you have more than plenty. I would use 4Gb of your RAM as a temp folder for Windows. Remember that downloaded files, transferred files don't go directly from folder to folder....they are infact placed and queued temporarily in the TEMP folder in your C drive. If you go to the advanced tab under your system properties, there is an option for 'Environment variables'. The values of the 'TEMP' and 'TMP' folders can be changed here so that they access the partition created on your RAMdisk and allow the fastest throughput available.
A better explanation can be found here:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAM_disk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAM_disk).
By transferring files through the memory, your C drive can be read, without storing the files in it's temp folder and write to whichever drive straightaway.
The implementation is fairly straightforward, so have a good read and follow the guide step by step and you shouldn't have any problems.
http://memory.dataram.com/products-and-services/software/ramdisk (http://memory.dataram.com/products-and-services/software/ramdisk)
If you do have any problems/questions let me know.

In regards to your storage, I wouldn't like to be in your shoes if a drive fails! Do you back up all of the 2TB of data?

Rgds

Yas
 Learnt the hard way several years ago,....I now have a quarterly copy at the inlaws place and use Acronis 2011 home with the plus pack in a continues cloning loop for "C" ... "P" (storage)  and "Z" (extra programs and review Doc storage) plus a 20min UPS and E-Sata Dual Dock for portable backups.....should be OK ... have been trouble free for several years now with this practice

 Will implement RAMdisc after a week of reading..........Measure twice, cut once!... your strong in an area I'm weak ... thanks for the leg up.

 Ive also been reading some major improvement can be had with manipulation Tile cache size in shop ?   ... know anything here ?

 Alan against Allan.....mmmmmmmmm I've been told one "L" in Alan is centered around Israel (Jewish) and two "Ls" more English, European (Scottish,English) ........Who knows.........it was my Mums fault  ;)

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Myasinax on July 25, 2011, 10:46:23 pm
Hi Allan,

Learn something new almost every day! :D
Let us know how you get on with the RAMdisk and give me a shout if any problem. You can see from the wiki of the test results...pretty staggering and all that from a FAT32 partition on your memory!
Not a big user of shop, so unable to help you with Tile cache size, but I imagine there is an optimal size to benefit transfers. Best thing to do is adjust and transfer he same file and record speeds.

Rgds

Yas :)
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Aussie Allan on July 25, 2011, 10:54:25 pm


 Cool! ... and the advantage of NTFS (paid for) against the freebie FAT 32 ?.....AA
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Myasinax on July 25, 2011, 11:11:57 pm
According to the benchmarks little to negative!
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Aussie Allan on July 25, 2011, 11:22:04 pm
According to the benchmarks little to negative!

  "Holy Rap Batman" ... I have some issues which I'm working through which unbelievably will improve these figures..... many thanks Yas!

  Stick around Yas!......we've got some work for you! hahahahahahahahahahh

  Hay DM and Absic!..... lookie here! :o ... this is even a great diagnostic tool for memory stability and through put.... "Read em and weep numbers"

 Now all I have to get is a flatline....


  Aussie Allan
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: F5BJR on July 26, 2011, 01:06:46 am
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A little question : have you installed last INTEL RAID Manager 10.0.6.1002 ?

Also for your screen copy you can use Windows shortcut CTRL + PRT SCreen keys and after past & copy ( CTRL C )  in  Paint !!

Pierre

Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Myasinax on July 26, 2011, 01:40:16 am
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A little question : have you installed last INTEL RAID Manager 10.0.6.1002 ?

Also for your screen copy you can use Windows shortcut CTRL + PRT SCreen keys and after past & copy ( CTRL C )  in  Paint !!

Pierre



Hi Pierre

Yes, newest Intel Raid Storage manager installed. Irrespective of Intel saying 3TB being supported, it doesn't work, there are thousands of posts saying the same thing! However, recently one chap reprted success with his Asus boards after an official update of his MB P8P67 BIOS. I don't think there is anyone with a Gigabyte board that has made it work on the ICH10R...............if anyone has, please let me know.

On a side note mate, when I installed your custom BIOS with the revised Intel OROM, when booting in to the system, the BIOS had down clocked the CPU, the memory and changed boot order and other settings and the 3TB drives were not seen. When these vakues are then changed and I came out of BIOS on reboot, the board would report a chksum BIOS error and start reloading a safe BIOS F4 (very old), so not really sure whats happening there.

I forgot about the old Print Screen as have been using Sniping Tool for ages, but when you right click and display a Windows prompt, everytime I clicked on Sniping Tool, the prompt would dssapear. I'll use Print Screen next time....... those dodgy pics are from an iPhone camera!

Cheers

Yas
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: F5BJR on July 26, 2011, 10:59:53 am
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New OROM 11.0.0.1124

rename 11.0.0.1124.JPG to 11.0.0.1124.RAR

and after you can use with CBROM32 for hack your BIOS ( report if run fine )

Pierre

* no problem with my RAID 10 with 4 * 1TO but OptionRom conflict ( i cannot see my 2 * HighPoint RR622 BIOS but normal if Intel Option ROM is > 8.9.1.1002


* for Myasinax i have no problem for flash BIOS with @BIOS ( i remove only Automatic Load CMOS Default after BIOS update option )
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Myasinax on August 06, 2011, 12:39:55 pm
I've now received a new firmware BIOS to test from Gigabyte, however it requires using FlashSPI to install the BIOS. I don't have a floppy drive attached and tried by making a bootable USB, but have had no success to date. Is there anyone that can run through how to do a BIOS update using FlashSPI? Would appreciate the help.

Cheers  :)
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Aussie Allan on August 06, 2011, 12:50:17 pm

 It still pays dividends having a 3.5 drive in the draw, ... even if you only use it once a year....most computer shops will give you a second hand one if you ask nicely......or under a fiver if there sharks!

  Aussie Allan
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 06, 2011, 03:45:59 pm
Trouble is Allan that less and less motherboards now even make the use of one possible as IDE is being phased out.
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Aussie Allan on August 06, 2011, 08:34:46 pm
Trouble is Allan that less and less motherboards now even make the use of one possible as IDE is being phased out.

  What!.....My X58 is a dinosaur! ......... I'll have to start looking for a 3.5" drive with Firewire :D

  Aussie Allan
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 06, 2011, 09:24:29 pm
Yes that's about it, an external drive connected by USB is probably the best bet but then the size of BIOS updates make them too big to go on a floppy anyway.
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: F5BJR on August 06, 2011, 10:18:23 pm
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I use always an old 4 Gb IDE harddisk ( with a IDE to Sata adapter if MotherBoard is without IDE port ) formatted in FAT32

Good Capacity , Good Speed

Pierre



Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Aussie Allan on August 06, 2011, 10:22:01 pm

 Smart little bugger ;)....tee hee.........how are you Perrie!.....good to catch up with everyone!

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: F5BJR on August 06, 2011, 10:33:40 pm
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Hello friends ... no big problems only one :

I play with a new NetGear WNR3500L ( WIFI N and GigaBits HUB for 4+1  ports ) low cost

I have installed DD-WRT firmware ( with stock firmware cannot run in Repeater Mode )

I use not in Router mode but in Repeater and WIFI N is not much stable ( some 130 MBps to 10 MBps by moment  ) !!

That's four days that i am the top and it starts to get upset

Pierre

Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: drake008 on August 06, 2011, 11:49:38 pm
Is it possible to update the Bios P35DS4.F14 for the P35DS4 REV 1.0 Mainboard? --> http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList/BIOS/motherboard_bios_ga-p35-ds4_f14.exe

The Intel AHCI and RAID Firmware should be updated to the latest and also the JMBMircon Firmware should be updated to the one from here
--> ftp://driver.jmicron.com.tw/SATA_Controller/Option_ROM/jmb363_1.07.28.zip  If that is possible.

When I open the Bios in cbrom with /D I see PCI ROM A B and C with Ich9RAID.bin ahci.bin and jmb59.bin. It seems that these have to be changed anyhow. When I release the RAID for example its just around 52kb big. The file from this thread here ist around 121kb. So that cannot fit, i think

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: F5BJR on August 07, 2011, 01:26:54 am
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For drake008

use similar scripts ( bat file ) look the order for remove and inverse for update with CBROM32 /d

--> But not brick your motherboard w<--

remove.bat

CBROM32 F7.BIN /GROUP17 release
CBROM32 F7.BIN /OEM6 release
CBROM32 F7.BIN /LOGO release
CBROM32 F7.BIN /OEM0 release
CBROM32 F7.BIN /GV3 release
CBROM32 F7.BIN /LOGO1 release
CBROM32 F7.BIN /PCI release
CBROM32 F7.BIN /PCI release
CBROM32 F7.BIN /PCI release
CBROM32 F7.BIN /PCI release

new.bat

CBROM32 F7.BIN /PCI ICHAAHCI.BIN
CBROM32 F7.BIN /PCI ICHARAID.BIN
CBROM32 F7.BIN /PCI JMB10728.BIN
CBROM32 F7.BIN /PCI rtegrom.lom
pause
CBROM32 F7.BIN /LOGO1 dbios.bmp
CBROM32 F7.BIN /GV3 ppminit.rom
CBROM32 F7.BIN /OEM0 sbf.bin
pause
CBROM32 F7.BIN /LOGO 333_bios.bmp
CBROM32 F7.BIN /OEM6 graid.bin
CBROM32 F7.BIN /GROUP17 m9123fw.bin
pause

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Pierre



Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: drake008 on August 07, 2011, 02:23:34 am
Before that. Which files (Intel) will I need and have these to be namend like in the cbrom?
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: drake008 on August 07, 2011, 10:29:56 am
Should I rename the file form here (11.0.0.1124.RAR) to ICH9RAID.BIN and AHCI.BIN and put them back into the Bios or must I do something other. Do I need an AHCI.BIN. This is not clearly stated here anywhere. When the 11.0.0.1124.RAR is enough for both why is it two times bigger than the older BINs?
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: drake008 on August 10, 2011, 07:04:41 pm
It seems that no one knows correctly what to do. So if someone who is able to do it could make me a f14 please with ahci and raid updated. That would be very appreciated
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: drake008 on August 16, 2011, 11:51:43 am
Well I got two new Hdds of 3 TB here. Will the Intel AHCI or RAID (1.07 from 2006 by AHCI and 7.50.1071 by RAID) be ready for these drives or will I get an error when I come over 2 TB?
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: drake008 on October 22, 2011, 11:18:23 am
Hi there again,

afte rI put the new 3 TB drive on the controller it is only recognized as around 700GB drive. In Win7 it is at full 3TB. Do I have to do anything about this?
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Aussie Allan on October 22, 2011, 11:35:05 am

   drake008

  Windows will not recognize partition above 1.999999999TB (2 TB) for this reason drives must be formatted in the GPT file format...... if 2, 2.5 or 3TB and above drives are to be used.......GPT file format must be used .......or break the drive in several partitions under 2 TB to utilize the NTFS file format 8)

  Aussie Allan
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: drake008 on October 22, 2011, 12:46:08 pm
So i dont need a hacked bios for my mainboard? It's just I'm curious about this when the system boots up and the ahci and raid stauts comes up there is the drive with 700 GB I windows I have formatted it whole with 3 TB.
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 22, 2011, 01:01:04 pm
Unless I have misunderstood the problem you need to have the EFI BIOS installed and enabled before formatting the drive as GPT instead of NTFS.

Here are the instructions to enable the EFI in the BIOS.

1. Go to Advanced BIOS Features.

2. Go to CD/DVD Boot Option.

3. Set the BIOS up to “EFI” option.

4. Save and exit BIOS.

Depending on what OS you are running as whether you will have boot support for GPT. Basically you must be runing a 64 bit version of XP, Vista or 7.
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: drake008 on October 22, 2011, 01:19:22 pm
I dont think the P35-DS4 have UEFI support at all.
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Aussie Allan on October 22, 2011, 01:36:53 pm


  Bummer!

 But I did find this which might help in your quest.....

       http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/5385-New-Award-BIOS-tool-for-performing-SLIC-Insertion-Modification/page93

  Aussie Allan
Title: Re: 3TB RAID array
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 22, 2011, 03:12:25 pm
I dont think the P35-DS4 have UEFI support at all.

No I am sure that is the case I'm afraid.