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Questions about GIGABYTE products => Motherboards with Intel processors => Topic started by: LBMANIX on August 10, 2011, 07:58:58 pm
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Hello,
I just bought a gigabyte MO GA-PH67-UD3-B3 and would like to use VT-D Intel® Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O feature.
Does anyone know how to get the BIOS UPDATE for that purpose ?
I wrote to GGTS FRANCE they said they have none of thatin store and ask inthis forum for help.
Any help would be very much appreciated.
L.
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Hi,
It is for the virtual machine?
Iif yes, give a exact model of CPU.
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Hello ,
It is for creating a virtual machine under VMWARE WORKSTATION : a CITRIX XENSERVER 5.0 . During the installation ,i got : HARDWARE VIRTULIZATION ASSIST is not available and the VM created is unusablefor testing XENSERVER features.
CPU: Core Intel I7 -2600 ,3,40 GHZ 8MB RAM Cache LGA 1155 95W
Thanks for the help
L
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hi, LBMANIX ;)
Ok your situation is very complex, she asked me several hours of research.
I learned a lot with your request. :P
http://ark.intel.com/products/52213/Intel-Core-i7-2600-Processor-%288M-Cache-3_40-GHz%29
http://www.intel.com/Assets/Image/diagram/h67_block_diagram.gif
http://ark.intel.com/compare/52215,52214,52213,52209,52212,52211,52210
http://newsroom.intel.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/1641-39-3280/2nd_Gen_Intel_Core_Desktop_Processors_FactSheet.pdf
Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x)
Intel® Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O (VT-d)
http://download.intel.com/technology/computing/vptech/Intel(r)_VT_for_Direct_IO.pdf
http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/intel-virtualization-technology-for-directed-io-vt-d-enhancing-intel-platforms-for-efficient-virtualization-of-io-devices/
http://www.intel.com/technology/itj/2006/v10i3/2-io/5-platform-hardware-support.htm
I find this:
ntel® VT-d requirements
VT-d will be available on Intel Client, Workstation and select Server products in second half of 2007.
Hardware
A platform that has a chipset with VT-d support
Software enabling required for VT-d
* A VMM (or Hypervisor) with the support required for VT-d features in the virtualization environment. No changes are required for guests running over the VMM.
* OS enabling is required for the OS to take advantage of VT-d protection features in native OS environment or non-virtualization environment.
BIOS requirements for the platform
BIOS enabling is required for VT-d use.
The BIOS needs to expose VT-d capabilities (e.g. # of DMA remap engines etc) to the VMM through the ACPI table.
Intel® Trusted Execution Technology is is necessary for your work?
www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/whitepaper/323586.pdf
Download Page about your Mobo:
http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/download-center.aspx?ck=2
what is your version bios?
I view exist F4 version.
Have you find the option “Enable I/O Virtualisation” in the Advanced Features section of your BIOS?
Or VT-d option in BIOS. I am not sûre if exist.
Please display a picture by link if possible.
here : http://siphon9.net/loune/2011/01/sandy-bridge-woes-lga1155-p67h67-and-vt-d-io-virtualization/
After reading your post, I looked at the H67 chipset datasheet
On page 264 it seems to suggest that using VT-d to pass the internal HD graphics to a VM would not work anyway – at least it’s not listed there.
Anyway, since the H67 chipset appears to support VT-d, it seems to be a BIOS issue only. Given that my DH67CF board is UEFI… I wonder if it would be possible to write an UEFI extension that sets up VT-d. Very far fetched, I guess… ;-)
Read on Intel site, more infos about this topic
here http://software.intel.com/en-us/forums/showthread.php?t=56802
http://software.intel.com/en-us/forums/showthread.php?t=56802&o=a&s=lr&p=5
Here http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/CS-030922.htm
Intel desktop boards support Intel VT with Directed I/O:
Q67 DQ67EP; DQ67OW; DQ67SW
Q57 DQ57TM; DQ57TML
Q45 DQ45CB; DQ45EK
Q35 DQ35JO; DQ35MP
Intel desktop boards support Intel VT
Z68 DZ68DB
P67, H67 DP67DE; DP67BG; DP67BA; DH67VR; DH67GD; DH67CL; DH67CF; DH67BL
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/doc/specification-update/6-and-c200-chipset-specification-update.pdf
http://download.intel.com/embedded/devkits/325208.pdf
It is becoming increasingly clear to me that you need to make sure (ensure) the CPU, the mobo chipset and the mobo BIOS are able and can handle the technology VT-d.
At this point in my research, it appears that the limiting factor is the hardware chipset H67.
you have an internet link which proves beyond doubt that the chipsets H67 or P67 can suporte Technology VT-D ?
I search this. If you are able to help me with a document or website link ? Come Again Here.
Meanwhile your response, you could use HWINFO32 to find out whether your rig has VT-d enabled.
Verify if VT-x is listed in CPUz. Make a html page (product by CPU-Z, in the last TAB)
Please display a picture by link if possible.
Together (me and you) are able to better assist you.
Gloup_Gloup
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Hello ,
thanks for your long and detailled study. I'm pretty busy now and shall delay the search for enabling VT-D on this motherboard.
VT is enabled ( default) an the motherboard.
In the end , i'll try to install directly XENSERVER on this PC .
I thought that I could ask some GIGABYTE support technician to build an adhoc BIOS to enable this as with RUNN3R .
I'll move along but shall tell you if i find anything new.
Thanks a lot
L
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Hi LBMANIX
Bios
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You said : VT is enabled ( default) an the motherboard.
My question may be stupid, but I do not take anything for granted, unless it is written.
Did you try the advanced options by pressing CTRL and F1 when you are in the BIOS?
in your mb_manual_ga-p67(ph67a)(ph67)-ud3-b3_v1.1_e.pdf, I view:
Miscellaneous Settings
Virtualization Technology Enabled
Enables or disables Intel Virtualization Technology. Virtualization enhanced by Intel Virtualization Technology will allow a platform to run multiple operating systems and applications in independent partitions.
With virtualization, one computer system can function as multiple virtual systems. (Default: Enabled)
I found that the manual simply lists the function''Virtualization Technology.
It is not because the processor supports VT-x technology, which will support the specific support Intel® Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O (VT-d). Like VTd/VTc.
I speak not of your processor I7 -2600, version non-K, because it actually support the VT-D.
I thought of other users who read on the forum.
Intel® Processor Identification Utility - Windows* Version
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?ProductID=1881&DwnldID=7838&lang=eng
"Too bad there is not, to date,one or a few parameters to activated or deactivated Intel VT-x for Directed I/O. Like :
-VT Technology
-XD Technology
-VT-D and or (AMD-V, and AMD IOMMU for mobo AMD)
-Intel Trusted Execution Technology
-VA operation
-DMAR-table,
-ACPI DMAR table with zero length entries
-LT/TXT Initialization (GA-Q57M-S2H and GA-Q67M-D2H-B3)
LT/TXT Initialization
Enables or disables Intel Trusted Execution Technology (Intel TXT).
Intel Trusted Execution Technology provides a hardware-based security foundation. By isolating assigned memory through this hardware-based protection, it allows the system to protect data in each virtual partition from unauthorized access
from software in another partition. (Default: Disabled)
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Otherwise I saw the models GA-Q67M-D2H-B3
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3824#ov
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3824#manual
and I find in mb_manual_ga-q67m-d2h-b3_e.pdf the settings for :
Intel IGD SWSCI OpRegion
I don't view setting for SMX (But Support must also be enabled prior to VT and VT-d)
What means SMX? (Safer Mode Extensions, i thiks)
VT and VT-d (Support must also be enabled prior to TXT).
Intel TXT(LT) Configuration
And this mobo have a LAN Intel 82579 chip (10/100/1000 Mbit)
Maybe you have a get help with this forum :
http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte/28441-gigabyte-latest-beta-bios.html
http://www.bios-mods.com
http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/VTdHowTo
Very interesting Topic
Sandybridge buying advise - Mainboard with Intel VT-d Technology Directed I/O
http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,4778.0.html
But come here again for read my news in this topic.
I will inform Dark Mantis about the subject and inform him of your request for a bios Optimizer virtualisatin VT-D.
Gloup_Gloup
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Gloup_Gloup did contact me with regard to this and it may be a possibility but will be at least next month as runn3R our Gigabyte contact and Admin is away on holiday until then.
I think Gloup_Gloup is doing a great job in helping you for now though and I can see a FAQ thread coming out of this. ;)
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Hello ,
Thanks a lot for youall. Indeed I'm very busythose last days and I'll ave a look at all your answers .I just found tonight the solution for a a10 dayslong
question.
I'll be backon my GIGABYTE MOtheboard and tell you il CTRL+F1 works or not.
Thanks a lot
L From France
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Hello ,
I tried at Miscellanous Setting , Got the Virtualization Technology Setting at ENABLED ( bydefault) .
But nothingcame out with CTRL+F1 .
Thanks forthe help anyway .
L From France
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Hello ,
We're in September, Hope you all got nice holidays.
Does anybody know when RUNN3R shall come back?
Help (urgently) needed.
Thanks
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Runn3R is already back officially but is busy with other duties that keep him away from the forum until Monday.
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Hello everybody ,
Hope you had nice time . Can RUNN3R or anybody helpful anytime have a look at this problem ?
I managed to virtualize VMWARE ESX4.1 on my 2years olds GIGABYTE MOBO EP41 UD3SL but now I need to virtualize VMWARE ESX 5.0 end citrix
XENSERVER 5.0 and later and INTEL VT-D is really the solution .
Thanks in advance
L from FRANCE
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Hi friends,
I view this topics:
http://www.vm-help.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2710&p=10055#p10055
Maybe you can put your own topic in this place:
http://www.vm-help.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=25
Gloup_Gloup
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Hello
If you want to virtualize VMWARE ESXi 4.1 or 3.5 , you need a ICH7 bridge ( Northern or Southern I don't remember ) AND an ethernet adapter
that VMWARE agrees .
The Cheapest one is Intel(R) PRO/1000 GT Desktop Adapter .
I need for professionnal purpose to try VMWARE ESXi5 and XENSERVER 5 and later so I do wait for a solution from RUNN3R.
Cheers.
L From France
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I need for professionnal purpose to try VMWARE ESXi5 and XENSERVER 5 and later so I do wait for a solution from RUNN3R.
I should send a reminder PM if you haven't heard by Monday. He has been very busy though I know trying to catch up.
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Hello
If you want to virtualize VMWARE ESXi 4.1 or 3.5 , you need a ICH7 bridge ( Northern or Southern I don't remember ) AND an ethernet adapter
that VMWARE agrees .
The Cheapest one is Intel(R) PRO/1000 GT Desktop Adapter .
I need for professionnal purpose to try VMWARE ESXi5 and XENSERVER 5 and later so I do wait for a solution from RUNN3R.
Cheers.
L From France
Hi LBMANIX, ;)
Is it correct, according to your information, that motherboards must have a LAN intel?
If not, is it possible to add a network adaptercard with an Intel chip?
If I put the website vm-help.com in a previous message, so you have the opportunity to get help to ensure that software and XEN VM running on GA- PH67 -B3-UD3.
Best regards,
Gloup_Gloup
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Hello ,
Thanks for the help , but it appears that the gang of three ( Microsoft with HYPER-V, VMWARE with ESXi 5.0 , Citrix with XENSERVER ) had
something like an "agreement" . I'm joking . To implement hose 3 features or to virtualize them , one needs VTD IO features enabled on the BIOS.
For the particular case of VMWARE ESX , it's a very peculiar product and one has to read very well the compatibility list it releases for each product.
If you don't tread their line , your setup just get stopped and there is no way to work around.( By the way : ESXi3.5 requires also VTD for Intel Chipset or AMD-V for AMD chipset in addition to the aforementionned ICH7 + Network adapter )
For VMWARE ESX , its a best practice to have at least 2 ethernet adapter card for High availability. Any non recognised card is just ignored and appears nowhere in your environment .
It took me two months to find out a mobo that met the requiremnts for VMWARE ESXi3.5. It still works for ESXi4.1 but nomore for ESXi5.0.
( see reason erstwhile ).
Hope that would help someone and cheers
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Hi LBMANIX
I've just read your PM, will check how I can help you. Sorry for delay. Please wait for my message
= update=
This topic has been discussed already. You will find the answer at:
(...)
I have just received an answer from Gigabyte regarding this particular issue. It is as follows.
"Currently our P67/H67 series motherboards do not support VT-D. They support Virtualization Technology (VT-x) now (bios option "Virtualization Technology") which is different from VT-D (Virtualization for Directed I/O). But we can prepare special bios on customer's request. It usually takes a few weeks. The request can be applied by GGTS for instance for the particular MB model.
The same situation applies to support of VT-D on our socket 1156 and 1366 motherboards.
Please note that the CPU also needs to support VT-D to have all platform supporting this technology."
GGTS: http://ggts.gigabyte.com/
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Hello RUNN3R
Thanks for answering , but unfortunately i already asked for help in FRANCE by GGTS and they answered that they got none of any update like that in store and to ask for help HERE with YOU !!!!
I sent another application just some minutes ago and i shall forward you the answer ( I'm afraid it would be the same answer ).
You are my last hope before buying a DELL Server ( which is much more expensive).
L
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Hello ,
It's very stange because it remunds me french administration quite a bit : The UK site of GGTS replied today "Dear Sir/Madam :
The purpose of this mail is to inform you that your question sent to GIGABYTE TECHNOLOGY earlier has been replied. If you cannot connect to the reply by clicking on the image above, please cut and paste the entire Web address
below into the address field of your browser to read our reply :
http://ggts.gigabyte.com.tw/gtsemail.asp?UserEmail=xxxxxx&EmailID=xxxxx&EmailPreviousID=1129801&OpenEmail=Y&LanguageID=9
In case that doesn't work, please go to http://ggts.gigabyte.com.tw and login with your email address to read the mail.
"
and the french site told me to contact the UK site !!!
anyway my mind is made up and to get my VT-D Ill buy a del server first price is around 800 Euros , not much more expensive than the server I built up with this Gigabyte MOBO.
Bye and thanks a lot
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Hi LBMANIX
Following our PM conversations during previous days - I have contacted Gigabyte France and received reply they will take care of your inquiry. I hope this way you will get support of this function.
Have a nice weekend!
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Hello ,
Better deal with G.. than with his saints.
I Finally got what i wanted : build a W2K8R2 farm withs VMWARE ESXi5.0 , Xenservers 5.6 , W2K8R2 Hyper-V , under VMAWARE WORKSTATION 8.0 (trial version°
The trick was simple : i bought the motherboard INTEL DQ67SW + CPU INTEL Core i7 2600 + 16Go RAM / on the mobo was embedded a INTEL PRO 10/100/1000 Network connection !!! ) . There I got to enable in the bios Intel® Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O feature.I then Installed WINDOWS 7 PRO 64 bits. VMWARE WORKSTATION 8.0 ( Trial ). In every each Virtual machine , i activated in the PROCESSOR section VIRTUALIZE INTEL VT-x/EPT or AMD-V/RVI.
VMWARE ESXi5.0 built withoutany problem
XENSERVER 5.6 also ==> beware when you burn the .ISO from CITRIX , corrupted files can give youthrills during the install
W2K8 R2 + Hyper-V ==> i had tomap the .ISO on a share / the CD-DVD device was not mapped
Hope this helps somebody
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Hi LBMANIX, ;)
As I understand it, you'll keep the GA-PH67-UD3-B3 and have an Intel DQ67SW.
Anyone, but especially runn3R (or LBMANIX) can tell me what the motherboard GA-Q67M-D2H-B3 do not answer the needs of LBMANIX?
GA-Q67M-D2H-B3
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3824#ov
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3824#manual
A response with technical details would be appreciated.
After all, I worked hard on this topic. :P
Gloup_Gloup