read this post:
http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,794.0.html
Hi, I have the same board and get the same problem. This is the second that I have had, as I had to RMA the first due to the channel A ram slots not working. Both of the X58A-UD3R boards have had the problem, but it didn't happen on my old P45-UD3P.
There is a thread on the Extreme Systems Forum that mentions that the problem can be lessend by disabling/changing C1E and other power saving states. They also claim that different power supplies give different results. I happen to be using a Corsair HX850W.
I haven't tried disabling power saving, but will try it tonight. The problem is very pronounced in my system and I am annoyed by it. I would like to have a very quiet system.
"- I have changed the volts to my CPU to 1.2 and i no longer have coil whine with C1E up."http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1493744&page=9 (http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1493744&page=9)
Just replaced mine for 1007, and it has same noises on default settings. (didn't try changing voltages yet)
hi
I have the GA-X58A-UD3R Ver1.0
I have very issues with the voltage on this mobo and Gigabyte needs to fix this as soon as possible. It is very annoying. Here are the problems in the order that I had to deal with them. I believe all are related to mobo as I had the shop i bought the parts from to try a different PSU and the same issues arose.
1. If I left the power saving options enabled C1E and c1/c3 blah blah in BIOS then the Computer would not load windows (it wouldn't actually go through the setup of Windows). At the startup screen of Windows 7 it would shut down and restart going into this power shut down cycle continuously. I 'fixed' this prob by disabling the two power saving options in 'advanced cpu options' in BIOS.
2. Next problem (again related to power) is that, computer will not boot (no bios or screen image) if you shut down and try to restart quickly. It will need something like 8 - 12 hours of 'rest' before it will even consider to boot again properly. I have not found the solution to this problem even though i spend a lot of time and effort on it.... I just settled for the time being with switching on / off once a day !
3. When I shut down windows, the programs will close, and image signal to the monitor will cease which is a sign that the software has died, but the hardware (fans, lights etc.) will keep on working for another 5 minutes approximately, before it decides to switch the power off. There is no hdd led activity to indicate some software runningg in the background so not sure why its taking so long. As this is the least of my problems, i havent bothered searching out forums for this issue, but yeah one more problem to add to the pile...
This is VERY poor for the price of these mobos and I hope Gigabyte get their act together on this.
ps. I also get the noise from the power supply, especially when a demanding game like BF BC2 is loading but this is not as loud as you guys describe it. maybe my fans are too noisy in my case !
Anyway all in all I believe all problems described above are voltage related probs. Please don't advice any grounding, removing cards, clearing cmos solutions, I tried all (out of the case). No resolution
My setup is
Amazing GA-X58A-UD3R Rev. 1.0
Intel i7 920i
6GB triple channel Corsair Ram 7.7.7.20 (profile 1)
OCZ 850W GameXStream PSU
Nvidia GTX 280
Raid 0 2x250GB WD 7200rpm Sata II
DVD WR Pioneer
Update for everyone... After reading a lot of relevant threads on the web and trying a lot of different tests I convinced myself that the mobo was not the only one to blame for all these probs, so I went ahead and returned my PSU (OCZ 850W GameXStream). I bought a more expensive Tagan Piperock 800W PSU... guess what... a lot of problems disappeared !
Update for everyone... After reading a lot of relevant threads on the web and trying a lot of different tests I convinced myself that the mobo was not the only one to blame for all these probs, so I went ahead and returned my PSU (OCZ 850W GameXStream). I bought a more expensive Tagan Piperock 800W PSU... guess what... a lot of problems disappeared !
Those problems were not about noise, they were about system instability. In my case, changing power supplies did NOT make any difference to the electrical buzzing noise coming from the Gigabyte motherboard and the power supply.
Update for everyone... After reading a lot of relevant threads on the web and trying a lot of different tests I convinced myself that the mobo was not the only one to blame for all these probs, so I went ahead and returned my PSU (OCZ 850W GameXStream). I bought a more expensive Tagan Piperock 800W PSU... guess what... a lot of problems disappeared !
Those problems were not about noise, they were about system instability. In my case, changing power supplies did NOT make any difference to the electrical buzzing noise coming from the Gigabyte motherboard and the power supply.
sorry I forgot to mention it in my previous post. Noises are all gone as well, but in order to be sure about this, can you guys recommend any tests i can run to check for any noise ? ? I will confirm whether noises have disappeared after you suggest a couple of tests for me to try out
I emailed Gigabyte Taiwan about the UD3R's noise problem, and asked them if they knew what batches have that problem and what batches don't. But I didn't get a helpful answer back from them :( They made it seem like nobody else has reported this noise problem to their engineering team, and that I'm the only one...
In case anyone's interested in their reply, here it is:
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Dear XXXXXX,
Normally if the noise is not too loud or getting errors, it shouldn't be problem use the hardware. Secondly, if the customer do not submit their issue, then we are not able to track on the component problem. At this moment, we have gotten the message from our FAE team that they do not receive chock issue about this MB and so it should not be much issue with this model.
Since we do not have issues in record, we suggest you might want to contact your local dealer and see if they can let you test the hardware in their shop to prevent getting the same issue to return afterwords? If it still happens, we suggest you to test with other hardware and see whether it could be cause by other device you use. At the same time, you can let the dealer to keep that MB and also the serial number and submit to our local distributor. They will submit the issue to our FAE and they might be able to help to look into this issue later by having the exact hardware. We appreciate your understanding and also your information.
Regards,
GIGABYTE TECHNOLOGY
In that case why do only some people complain, could it be that most people just don't hear the noise?Some won't hear, because they aren't enough ear sensible. Others don't know how to complain. Some are too lazy to do any thing, even write ion the forum. Others just solve the matters on their manners, and return board and buy a different brand. Some might even have the right combination of motherboard batch xxxx with PSU batch xxxx.
I have also been having noise issues with my X58A-UD3R.
At first there were two noises, one was a continuous whine/whistle that I could hear at all times regardless of system conditions. The other was a "squealing" sort of sound that only appeared under specific load circumstances. Both sounds appear to come from the CPU area.
Thanks for documenting your problems here, as it turned out to be some help to me. I turned off C1E and set the CPU voltage to 1.2 manually instead of leaving it on auto, and the "squealing" disappeared. The whistle/whine is still there, however. I only bought this about a week ago so I had thought about requesting a replacement from the retailer, but after reading this thread it would appear that this is a universal problem.
There has been some discussion that it might be caused by the PSU. In my case my PSU is a PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750W, but I have used a multimeter to confirm that the voltages are correct.
Ok I just bought the x58a-ud3r this week and I am also hearing this high pitch noise. I have two concerns of what it maybe.
It either maybe the psu. I have a Thermaltake Toughpower XT 750W.
or it may have something to do with the processor. I have a Intel i7 930 2.8 GHz.
Mobo batch number is 1007.
I have a really good feeling that this issue may have something to do with the PSU.
Let me know if someone can figure out thats wrong with this thing, or if there is a fix for this.
UPDATE!!
Ok so after reading all the post, I tried a few things and I have yet to hear the high pitch noise after a few changes.
The first thing I did was disable C1E.
And second I set the CPU voltage to Normal.
The noise was not even bearable about 30min ago and now I don't hear a single thing.
Batch number is 1007. Can someone else try this and tell me what they get?? Hopefully this works.
Greetings,
I came to this forum because of this very issue - electronic squealing. I went through three different PSUs before figuring out it was the motherboard causing it. Incidentally, I wasn't exactly wrong the first two times - the motherboard is actually inducing the noise into the PSU (I have tried different brands and models). I'm also hearing the same noise coming from the area of the CPU. I uploaded a short clip which demonstrates the noise: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDb-xQHcCx4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDb-xQHcCx4). All of the noises in the video, including the ones which sound like HDD activity, are coming from the board and PSU. I've found the Windows Experience Test to be a predictable way to cause the board to make the noise and that is what was going on in this clip. This is not a quiet noise - I can hear from the next room.
I am running an i7-930. Disabling C1E has reduced but not eliminated the noise. All of my CPU settings in the BIOS are currently set to the default 'Auto.'
After some search on youtube I am also found some video about this problem (it may appear in different components - PSU, motherboards, videocards...). Defective or poor quality components: capacitors or coils >:(
Question/Answer: Electronic Buzzing/Squealing Noise
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wdrQDK388E&feature=related
Zalman ZM-1000HP Power Supply High Pitched Squeal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQa79pWC0OQ&feature=related
Tagan BZ-900 Power Supply and 8800GT High Pitched Squeal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZkwNXoeOeY&NR=1
Coil noise out of ComExpress when initiate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLLh9G3PiZM
cyguardian,
Interesting. I also have the same problem of the motherboard taking a long time to shut down. It definately occurs when using ICH10R with a RAID-1 configuration. I was experimenting with non RAID configurations last week, and don't recall this being a problem, but can't be sure. I'll go back and try it again in IDE mode and see if the long shut down still occurs, and post my findings here.
Sijmen.
UPDATE!!
Ok so after reading all the post, I tried a few things and I have yet to hear the high pitch noise after a few changes.
The first thing I did was disable C1E.
And second I set the CPU voltage to Normal.
The noise was not even bearable about 30min ago and now I don't hear a single thing.
Batch number is 1007. Can someone else try this and tell me what they get?? Hopefully this works.
This helped with one of my problems.
I mentioned earlier in the thread that I was experiencing two issues, one was an occasional "squealing" sound and the other was a continuous "whistling" sound.
What you describe here fixed my "squealing" sound issue, but not the "whistling" sound.
My batch number is 1002.
Yeah I have yet to hear any of the "whistling sound". I am really glad to see that the squealing sound is gone though. It might have been some issue with the motherboard pushing out more voltage the pcu needs due to the auto setting in vcore in the bios. My best option to you is to open up the case, wait for the "whistling sound" and turn off all your fans excapt the cpu fan. And see if the sound is still there. there might be air flow problem?? or it might just be a fan.
Long Term Concern!!!!
My main concern is that, is this "electrical noise" issue that I have found a solution for going to be a long term issue. Is this going to come back in the long run and start other issues with the motherboard? Is this going to make the motherboard non-functional in the future? IS THIS BAD FOR THE PROCESSOR?
Anyone have any suggestions or ideas?? I need to know before my 30 day return period is up.
I've registered just to make it known that my X58A-UD5 is having the same whine/buzzing/HDD activity sound coming from the CPU socket area when under load. As well, I also have a Corsair HX650 PSU. This is my replacement board and my patience to replace it a 3rd time is wearing on me. Following the tips and tricks of disabling C1E removed any audible sound, but for a long term solution, this may cause more wear and tear on vital components that could otherwise be facilitated by power saving features. I think I am just going to give up with these Gigabyte motherboards and defect to a competitor that doesn't have such issues.
My wild ass guess is that it only happens with certain PSU's. I have 2 ssd's and I don't hear anything. I have a Silverstone 1000w psu.
My wild ass guess is that it only happens with certain PSU's. I have 2 ssd's and I don't hear anything. I have a Silverstone 1000w psu.
Thanks for the info dkslim, I will ask Gigabyte about the Revision 2.0.
hI
Do you happen to know if they are doing likewise with the X58A-UD7 board? I would like to get rid of this annoying noise too.
It looks like some capacitors are missing from the area above the CPU socket. They also seem to have moved sys fan 2 from being next to the third PCIe slot to the bottom right corner of the board.Hi Spiffy.G Can you tell us what your bios version is? Is it FA?And do you have the ud3r or the ud5? How do I identify from batch numbers that is the v2.0 pcb and the FA bios? thx
I have a board from batch # 1018. My board does not have the electrical squealing noise that so many of you guys are experiencing, infact it does not make any noise what so ever. I know what your talking about though, my old abit in9-32x-max 680i board made all sorts of really high-pitched squeaky noises. I’m running a stock i7 930 with 6gb of 1600 memory and two gtx260s in sli.
A question I do have though is what voltage should I manually set for a stock i7 930? Right now I have it set to the default “auto” and I’m told that when set to auto the board over-volts everything.
The CPU voltage light is orange, the memory voltage light is green and the NB voltage light is also green.
Searching google I cant find anything about what the stock voltages should be for a i7 930.
Hi Spiffy.G Can you tell us what your bios version is? Is it FA?And do you have the ud3r or the ud5? How do I identify from batch numbers that is the v2.0 pcb and the FA bios? thx
A question I do have though is what voltage should I manually set for a stock i7 930? Right now I have it set to the default “auto” and I’m told that when set to auto the board over-volts everything.
Bad news people, I just tested a Revision 2.0 UD3R and it still makes the same noise, both from the CPU socket area and the attached power supply. Tried 3 different brands of power supplies again, no difference. :-[
I guess the changes made to the UD3R were not noise-related, despite the existence of this thread. Doesn't look like Gigabyte really cares about fixing noise problems??
I'll have a chat with Gigabyte staff again on the next business day (Monday), and see what they say... sigh.
mayby if you informed us of the rest of your hardware and BIOS configuration we could find out something Spiffy G.
Thanks in advance!
Thank you very much Spiffy G. for taking the time and effort to inform us about this, I at least appreciate it. You did not mention how you have configured C1E and other energy saving configurations, can you please chack?
Thanks again
guys, I don´t see the point in repeating the same message in the same topic in the same forum... at least do it in different forums so that the news is more spread and as soon as someone Googles this motherboard, these messages of dissapointment will appear..I support it... probably a Wikipedia page dedicated for this issue...
i'm sorry you guys are having these troubles. I guess i'm very lucky to have a x58a ud3r board that is completely silent.Glad you've a silent board. Would you please share with us the PSU model that you're using? Thanks.
I hope you guys are able to resolve your issues. Overall its a very nice board
he already indicated that: Rosewill extreme 750watt PSUSorry... I didn't note it before making the post. Some of the Gigabyte replies indicate that the customer to be blamed for picking up the wrong PSU. I try to get a list of PSU that the user claims not having the noise issue. So far the following is what I get:
Like I said before, this is more an issue of what the warranty really covers. Since the board is technically working fine then Gigabyte probably sees no point in resolving this noise issue and only learns from it through our complaints and tries to improve future boards or at least pay attention to it after design and first issues.. we are just test bunnies and I do not think this will be taken seriously, at least not with this board. All we can do is mention it in as many forums as possible to somewhat put a negative and unconfident view on Gigabyte, not much more
No, I dont agree. The manufacturer advertises that this board has all these features and makes no mention of the fact that you cannot use them for fear of having a screeching sound. So basically it is false advertising and therefore not sold as described.That's true. For example, a Ferrari is advertised to be able to run at 200km/h with TurboBoost, but when a customer claims that at 200km/h the car produces some kind of funny noise. Then, Ferrari claims that you should disable TurboBoost and cruise at 190km/h. Do you think this is the correct way of marketing?
he already indicated that: Rosewill extreme 750watt PSUSorry... I didn't note it before making the post. Some of the Gigabyte replies indicate that the customer to be blamed for picking up the wrong PSU. I try to get a list of PSU that the user claims not having the noise issue. So far the following is what I get:
Like I said before, this is more an issue of what the warranty really covers. Since the board is technically working fine then Gigabyte probably sees no point in resolving this noise issue and only learns from it through our complaints and tries to improve future boards or at least pay attention to it after design and first issues.. we are just test bunnies and I do not think this will be taken seriously, at least not with this board. All we can do is mention it in as many forums as possible to somewhat put a negative and unconfident view on Gigabyte, not much more
[1] FSP Epsilon 600W
[2] Ultra X2 and X3 (from a Gigabyte moderator in other forum)
[3] Rosewill xtreme 750W
Unfortunately, three of them are not popular at my place and I can't have them.
you have a point there Dark Mantis but I assure you that the Gigabyte support service does not take the bait and simply advices you to bring it to the dealer and in service they say, no problems found so how are we ever going to solve this?At least Gigabyte should act more professionally like Toyota... If they keep hiding the fact and keep blaming the PSU as main culprit, then customers may keep on changing new PSUs and will not get the problem solved at the end.
he already indicated that: Rosewill extreme 750watt PSUSorry... I didn't note it before making the post. Some of the Gigabyte replies indicate that the customer to be blamed for picking up the wrong PSU. I try to get a list of PSU that the user claims not having the noise issue. So far the following is what I get:
Like I said before, this is more an issue of what the warranty really covers. Since the board is technically working fine then Gigabyte probably sees no point in resolving this noise issue and only learns from it through our complaints and tries to improve future boards or at least pay attention to it after design and first issues.. we are just test bunnies and I do not think this will be taken seriously, at least not with this board. All we can do is mention it in as many forums as possible to somewhat put a negative and unconfident view on Gigabyte, not much more
[1] FSP Epsilon 600W
[2] Ultra X2 and X3 (from a Gigabyte moderator in other forum)
[3] Rosewill xtreme 750W
Unfortunately, three of them are not popular at my place and I can't have them.
i'm sorry you guys are having these troubles. I guess i'm very lucky to have a x58a ud3r board that is completely silent.
I hope you guys are able to resolve your issues. Overall its a very nice board
after some googling i found this:
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anyone with this problem should go to gigatribe website and download and install the latest lan drivers,theyve just released new driver and its got rid of the noise my mother board was making,just uninstall ur lan driver and instal the new one and ittl be silent
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yes i used to stop it by disabling c1e halt state but with this new lan driver i can enable it now and it dont squeal at all,before it used to make a high pitched interferance sound that drove u nuts, the boards been great since so id deffo checkout gigabytes website for there new audio and lan drivers
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14494226
Are you running Windows 7? I have W7 64 bit.Someone did claim that with Windows 7 and with C1E enabled, no noise was heard. Do you hv the same experience with Windows 7?
I have a feeling the noise might be OS related... I can't know for sure because I haven't had the time to test any other OS...
maybe someone could try that other comment: ´Soon as you take the vcore off auto it stops, I figure its the voltage fluctuating so much that its causing some hum.´
yes i used to stop it by disabling c1e halt state but with this new lan driver i can enable it now and it dont squeal at all,before it used to make a high pitched interferance sound that drove u nuts, the boards been great since so id deffo checkout gigabytes website for there new audio and lan drivers
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14494226
My Gigabyte board is up for sale and I have an ASUS P6X58D-E board now, no squealing, no high-pitching noises, nothing so let somebody else worry about that problem now..Great! I'm going to buy one too... are you using Windows 7? Thanks.
still I do follow this topic to at least have a mind at ease if a solution comes along or the cause of the noise is found..
My Gigabyte board is up for sale and I have an ASUS P6X58D-E board now, no squealing, no high-pitching noises, nothing so let somebody else worry about that problem now..Great! I'm going to buy one too... are you using Windows 7? Thanks.
still I do follow this topic to at least have a mind at ease if a solution comes along or the cause of the noise is found..
Good news everyone - after a few days of communicating with the Gigabyte warranty manager in Australia (who was extremely helpful), I can now say that Gigabyte is working on a fix to solve this noise problem.I really appreciate your effort!
When I brought my UD3R motherboard in 3 days ago for them to examine, Gigabyte staff finally confirmed that they could hear the noise.This is important achievement. Thus, must be highlighted.
Apparently, it was the first time that Gigabyte staff heard the noise coming from a X58A.
In the past, people have RMA'd their noisy X58A motherboards, but Gigabyte staff could not hear the noise, because of 3 factors:Well... when customers complain about "noise", Gigabyte engineers should perform the test in quiet environment. They kept on asking us to confirm the noise if it's from motherboard. They claimed we didn't isolate well the noises within the motherboard, GPU, PSU, fans, etc., but in fact they all did not do that as well. Really shameful to those so-called Gigabyte well trained engineers.
1) The technicians work in a room that is quite noisy, there are fans etc on all the time. Even I had a hard time hearing the noise when I was in their testing room. We had to put our ears right next to the area that was making the noise, in order to hear it. So it would have been easy for the technicians to miss the noise.
2) Some people simply cannot hear high-pitch noises well. Apparently the technicians in general are unlikely to hear high-pitch noises, because they have been exposed to noise all the time in their work environment, which makes them less likely to notice soft noises coming from a motherboard.
3) Gigabyte uses Windows Vista to test their motherboards, not the latest OS Windows 7. It could be that the noise only occurs when running certain operating systems, and not when running Windows Vista.
Since the noise problem is now officially confirmed by Gigabyte, the research department in Gigabyte headquarters has been informed about the problem. Apparently the research team thinks that they can fix the noise, by tweaking the BIOS of the motherboards.Hopefully...
I've been told that Gigabyte will be working on a BIOS update to fix the noise problem on the UD3R Revision 1.0 first, then the UD7. These BIOS updates could be ready by next week. They will then gradually fix the BIOS of the remaining X58A motherboards.They should fix all at the same time, especially UD3R because more customers use this board.
Personally, I am not sure whether a BIOS update can fix this noise problem. From what I can see, it is a hardware issue - the chokes (black cubes near the CPU slot) vibrate when there are fluctuations in the CPU voltage, and the vibrations give off the noise. I'd be interested to see how a BIOS update can stop the vibrations from happening, without disrupting the efficient power management of the i7 CPU.I think it's possible to fix the problem with improved BIOS. The VRM is controlled by BIOS, I assume. At the moment, I think the BIOS is programmed in such a way whenever there is a change of computation demand, a command is issued to the VRM to change the voltage. In my opinion, the computation power required by some programs, for example, Google Chrome or Real Temp, quite fluctuates and hence they tend to induce the noise. Probably the BIOS can be modified to have a "hysteresis band" or "Schmitt trigger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmitt_trigger)" type of response, i.e. change of VRM will only be triggered if the changes of a computation power is more than a threshold value with hysteresis band. My explanation is bad I know and I'm sorry if you don't understand it. However, again, the real culprit should be a poor design of the VRM circuit (with poor dynamic transient performance).
Please note that I am simply passing on information I got from discussions with Gigabyte, since there are many people out there who (like me) are upset by the noise, and would like to know any information about a possible fix. There is no guarantee that the problem will be fixed, until we see the BIOS updates and test them out. But at least there is some hope, for now.Hope is important!
Good news everyone - after a few days of communicating with the Gigabyte warranty manager in Australia (who was extremely helpful), I can now say that Gigabyte is working on a fix to solve this noise problem.
When I brought my UD3R motherboard in 3 days ago for them to examine, Gigabyte staff finally confirmed that they could hear the noise.
Personally, I am not sure whether a BIOS update can fix this noise problem.
From what I can see, it is a hardware issue - the chokes (black cubes near the CPU slot) vibrate when there are fluctuations in the CPU voltage, and the vibrations give off the noise. I'd be interested to see how a BIOS update can stop the vibrations from happening, without disrupting the efficient power management of the i7 CPU.
By the way, for those people who are frustrated by the useless responses of Gigabyte Online Support - the staff at Gigabyte who really know about the problem and who really want to fix it, won't be the ones who read and answer your online questions. You won't get any satisfactory answer from them online, until they have been educated about how to deal with the noise problem.
Well dkslim, I just offered my mobo for checkup and service so it went to the Gigabyte office and they could not and/or did not want to do something about the noise issues so not really useful information... bad publicity widely spread is in this case I think the key.
Well... when customers complain about "noise", Gigabyte engineers should perform the test in quiet environment. They kept on asking us to confirm the noise if it's from motherboard. They claimed we didn't isolate well the noises within the motherboard, GPU, PSU, fans, etc., but in fact they all did not do that as well. Really shameful to those so-called Gigabyte well trained engineers.
By the way, a very experienced forumer in other forum claims that he doesn't hear the sound under Windows 7.
Well dkslim, I just offered my mobo for checkup and service so it went to the Gigabyte office and they could not and/or did not want to do something about the noise issues so not really useful information... bad publicity widely spread is in this case I think the key.
Yes I read about your experience and their replies, and feel for you. I would be disappointed, upset, and angry as well, if I went to the trouble of sending my motherboard in, and discover they did not even try to find the problem. I had similar feelings when I RMA'd my UD3R the first 2 times, it was only the 3rd time when the warranty manager personally looked at the motherboard with me, and we located the noise together.
I am guessing that your Gigabyte office might not be as helpful, it really depends on who the warranty manager is. I was lucky the warranty manager in Melbourne was great. You could try to contact the Gigabyte office you sent it to, talk to the person in charge, and see what they say...
Otherwise, just wait for the BIOS update, at least the hard work has been done and Gigabyte is trying to do something about the noise now...
Someone did claim that with Windows 7 and with C1E enabled, no noise was heard. Do you hv the same experience with Windows 7?
I just hope the new BIOS comes out soon and the noise problems are really solved with that new BIOS but frankly I doubt that a hardware issue is solved by software but that is my opinion .. still, I will keep track of every info that comes up about this topicI agree. If it is a hardware issue (which I believe it's the problem encountered by the board at the moment), then it will be very hard to completely eliminate the problem.
I just hope the new BIOS comes out soon and the noise problems are really solved with that new BIOS but frankly I doubt that a hardware issue is solved by software but that is my opinion .. still, I will keep track of every info that comes up about this topicI agree. If it is a hardware issue (which I believe it's the problem encountered by the board at the moment), then it will be very hard to completely eliminate the problem.
I remember you told me before that you found out Gigabyte technicians use Coolermaster PSUs to power the Gigabyte motherboard and they did not hear the sound. Now I understand why they didn't hear the noise. I think, if we use Coolermaster PSU, we will also hear the similar noise.
I think they might find a way to make the noise less (annoying) but not making it dissappear completely or solve it as if it never existed so I do not have too much faith in the new BIOS and the magic it will do.. but eh.. let´s be positive and let Gigabyte engineers find the magic potion..
I think they might find a way to make the noise less (annoying) but not making it dissappear completely or solve it as if it never existed so I do not have too much faith in the new BIOS and the magic it will do.. but eh.. let´s be positive and let Gigabyte engineers find the magic potion..
Yes, I think we all share the same view, as I said before I still think it's mainly a hardware issue. But we are not engineers, we might be wrong, let's just see what happens when the new BIOS is released.
Let's not forget that Gigabyte is now trying to do something about it (rather than ignore it), so that's already something positive. They have my support at the moment.
they are just trying to keep everybody quiet while they sweep it under the carpet.
Hi onemilimeterWhat they did will only make customers to be more angry!
I did pm you about it at the time and to let you know, mine was also altered. I take it that it was runn3R(as moderator) who did it but didn't want to come on the thread and say so.
I found out my posts have been edited! I can't believe Gigabyte will do this thing... shameful...
You might have noticed that runn3R has been conspicuous by his absence all through this thread! I agree with jaicigy they are just trying to keep everybody quiet while they sweep it under the carpet.
(...) Gigabyte RMA engineers could not hear the noise, because of 3 factors:and:
1) The technicians work in a room that is quite noisy, there are fans etc on all the time. Even I had a hard time hearing the noise when I was in their testing room. We had to put our ears right next to the area that was making the noise, in order to hear it. So it would have been easy for the technicians to miss the noise.
2) Some people simply cannot hear high-pitch noises well. Apparently the technicians in general are unlikely to hear high-pitch noises, because they have been exposed to noise all the time in their work environment, which makes them less likely to notice soft noises coming from a motherboard.
3) Gigabyte uses Windows Vista to test their motherboards, not the latest OS Windows 7. It could be that the noise only occurs when running certain operating systems, and not when running Windows Vista. (...)
(...) Gigabyte technicians use Coolermaster PSUs to power the Gigabyte motherboard and they did not hear the sound. Now I understand why they didn't hear the noise.
I found out my posts have been edited! I can't believe Gigabyte will do this thing... shameful...
I noticed that too. In my opinion, Gigabyte should not be editing genuine posts from genuine customers... that leads to all sorts of problems...
anybody any idea when the new BIOS version wil come out??
Don't worry. I am watching this thread for some time and informed HQ about it already. They are working in this.
What I find very weird is that Gigabyte indicates that the only difference between rev. 1.0 and rev. 2.0 of this board is that rev. 2.0 also supports the AI Charger.. but this is an application that can also be downloaded for the rev. 1.0 from the website so not really clear..
What I find very weird is that Gigabyte indicates that the only difference between rev. 1.0 and rev. 2.0 of this board is that rev. 2.0 also supports the AI Charger.. but this is an application that can also be downloaded for the rev. 1.0 from the website so not really clear..
From what I know, there are more changes to the Rev 2.0 than that:
1) 4 extra power phases (the black cubes next to the CPU);
2) Improved heatsink;
3) Different BIOS set-out;
4) Red USB super charger for iphone etc.
They don't say these things on their webpage, but you can see these changes when you have used both the Rev 1.0 and Rev 2.0.
Wow.. I've just been promoted to "Jr. Member" on this forum... :D
What I find very weird is that Gigabyte indicates that the only difference between rev. 1.0 and rev. 2.0 of this board is that rev. 2.0 also supports the AI Charger.. but this is an application that can also be downloaded for the rev. 1.0 from the website so not really clear..
From what I know, there are more changes to the Rev 2.0 than that:
1) 4 extra power phases (the black cubes next to the CPU);
2) Improved heatsink;
3) Different BIOS set-out;
4) Red USB super charger for iphone etc.
They don't say these things on their webpage, but you can see these changes when you have used both the Rev 1.0 and Rev 2.0.
ok, thanks.. how do you know by the way, especially point 2 and 3?
congrats.. I hope you make us proud and in your next meeting with the Gigabyte staff you fight for our right.. of an flawless working board.. ;D
congrats.. I hope you make us proud and in your next meeting with the Gigabyte staff you fight for our right.. of an flawless working board.. ;D
Thanks ;) I'll try my best!...
Don't worry. I am watching this thread for some time and informed HQ about it already. They are working in this.
Thanks for confirming that HQ is now working on this :)
Wow.. I've just been promoted to "Jr. Member" on this forum... :D
congrats.. I hope you make us proud and in your next meeting with the Gigabyte staff you fight for our right.. of an flawless working board.. ;D
What I find very weird is that Gigabyte indicates that the only difference between rev. 1.0 and rev. 2.0 of this board is that rev. 2.0 also supports the AI Charger.. but this is an application that can also be downloaded for the rev. 1.0 from the website so not really clear..That's true. I bought a GA-X58A-UD3R and there is a software related to ON/OFF charge in the CD that came along with motherboard. I think the biggest difference between the rev. 1.0 and rev. 2.0 is the voltage regulation module (VRM) and obviously it's been improved to have more number of phases. Again, why Gigabyte wants to hide this fact because everyone can see the difference immediately. If there is nothing wrong with the VRM of the rev. 1.0, I don't think Gigabyte will spend the extra time and money to upgrade the VRM. I believe the improved VRM is to address some issues which are encountered earlier by customers and not the "acoustic noise" issue raised recently by dslkim in March 2010.
Also the fact that they gave the rev 2 a better power phase angers me. Yes it is a better improvement. We should be able to send our boards back and get rev. 2
Oh and I have bios F6b in my other board and I have 0 noise issues, with f5 bios it made noise. On the board I use everyday I have the noise even with bios F6b
The hardware on my other board that makes 0 noise is:
i7 920
G.Skill Ripjaws 1600 6GB
XFX 5770 XXX
Thermaltake 850 watt Modular PSU
2 WD RE3 Hard drives in Raid 0
I was told its certian PSU's that makes the MB be noisy. Could be true as I didnt try that PSU in my other rig I am using now.
The hardware on my other board that makes 0 noise is:
i7 920
G.Skill Ripjaws 1600 6GB
XFX 5770 XXX
Thermaltake 850 watt Modular PSU
2 WD RE3 Hard drives in Raid 0
I was told its certian PSU's that makes the MB be noisy. Could be true as I didnt try that PSU in my other rig I am using now.
I was told its certian PSU's that makes the MB be noisy. Could be true as I didnt try that PSU in my other rig I am using now.
Update, I switched power supplies and the noise is still the same. So no the PSU is not the problem. Oh well I plan to get the Asus R3E. Much better board.
Has anyone flashed rev 2.0 bios to rev 1.0?? I was going to flash the rev 2.0 bios to my rev 1.0 board to see if the noise goes away. Is the rev 2.0 making that same noise??
I just got response from Gigabyte service and got a link for this BETA version for the BIOS for this board:
http://ggts.gigabyte.eu/FileList/928321/x58aud3r.rar
As I stated before, I do not have the board anymore so maybe someone else can test it.
Hi Dark Mantis
As most of complains were about X58-UD3R 1.0 that's why I gave the highest priority for this model.
We need to have confirmation that this solution works, then will follow with other revisions and models.
This is special bios F6i for GA-X58A-UD3R Rev 1.0 which has been prepared after I reported this issue to HQ. Anyone having the noise please check with this bios and feedback results. ThanksJust back from holiday. Please let me know what are the tools required to flash one of the dual bios. I will try the "new" bios...
Hi onemilimeterThanks. My system does not have a floppy drive. My HDD is not in FAT32 format. So, the only option I have is to flash from USB. I tried but I can't see the USB in the Q-flash window. Pls advise. Thanks.
Please upgrade the bios using Q-Flash utility embedded inside our bios setup, see the guide at:
http://www.giga-byte.co.uk/FileList/NewTech/old_motherboard_newtech/flashbios_qflash.pdf
HiThe flash drive appeared as HDD1-0...
You need to have the USB drive formatted to Fat 16 or 32 and have the unzipped file on the boot sector. The drive must be inserted before booting up.
Well at least it SOUNDS hopeful!Not to be happy too early... I found something weird... I'm confirming it now before posting... wait... :)
I am going to have a site up and running in a week about this issue, Be prepare Gigabyte..Please let us know once the site is up. I guess many will be interested... Thanks.
I just got response from Gigabyte service and got a link for this BETA version for the BIOS for this board:
http://ggts.gigabyte.eu/FileList/928321/x58aud3r.rar
As I stated before, I do not have the board anymore so maybe someone else can test it.
This is special bios F6i for GA-X58A-UD3R Rev 1.0 which has been prepared after I reported this issue to HQ. Anyone having the noise please check with this bios and feedback results. Thanks
When they say "changed" I expect they just mean removed so that you cant get at it and therefore can't play ;DYes... I share the same view...
When they say "changed" I expect they just mean removed so that you cant get at it and therefore can't play ;D
When they say "changed" I expect they just mean removed so that you cant get at it and therefore can't play ;D
but did you test it out yet, or you onemilimeter ?
I think Gigabyte should test the BIOS intensively before releasing to public. Now it's like the customers who help Gigabyte to test their product!
I think Gigabyte should test the BIOS intensively before releasing to public. Now it's like the customers who help Gigabyte to test their product!
That is exactly what I told them through the support service mail.. I´m no test bunny and I was only interested in upgrading once I got the confirmation from them that all problems were solved by an official release, no BETA test version(s)..
Nope fvb stills does the same s***, cpu z wont read right, what a joke Gigabyte is, quit wasting my time with this crap bios updates that dont work for crap..Another crappy BIOS... it's shamful to Gigabyte!
Just got my board friday (June 4th) Guess its going back. Can anyone confirm if Rev 2 fixes this noise problem?
I second... it will probably be solved with Rev. 3. Don't think it will come out soon so it's better to consider Asus X58 at the moment.Just got my board friday (June 4th) Guess its going back. Can anyone confirm if Rev 2 fixes this noise problem?
No Rev. 2 does not fix the whining noise, Gigabyte's beta bios does not fix it either.. Best thing to do is return the Gigabyte board and get an Asus X58 premium E board. Alot better than Gigabyte.
Hmmm I tried this bios Fva in my board that has no whine just to see what was changed, I have my CPU clocked at 3.6GHz but CPU Z shows it at 2.8GHz and under system properties it shows 3.6GHz.. When I flash back to F6b cpu z shows it as 3.6GHz. Very odd with these tricks GIGABYTE got up there sleves.. That Bios is worthless..
Even uder cpu load it wont bump up to 3.6GHz.
Please note that cpu z shows the multi at 17 when the bios shows 20 with turbo boost enabled making it 21, whatever Gigabyte did with this bios its surely messed up where cpu z dont read right.
The voltage also dont go past 1.040v, very odd.. All the power saving features in the bios have been disabled aswell and still no change.
Could you provide information as follows:
1. What CPU do you use?2. How do you get 3.6 GHz? (exact settings)
Please mind the conditions as below:
a) If C1E is enabled in BIOS then while CPU is idle, C1E is enabled.
But when CPU is fully loaded then C1E is disabled.
b) If C1E is disabled in BIOS then Window always disables C1E.
P.S. Could anybody else with this noise issue help to verify FVB bios? Thanks
(...)
With BIOS FVB (plus "Load Optimized Default" and C3/C6/C7 is enabled):
[1] "Squealing noise" described in P1 above still exists but with some improvement, i.e. the duration it occurs is shorter now.
[2] "High-pitch noise" described in P2 above does not exist.
At no-load condition (only Google Chrome is opened):
- When both "C1E" and "EIST" are enabled, the CPU voltage is maintained at 0.912V.
- When "C1E" is disabled and "EIST" is enabled, the CPU voltage is also maintained at 0.912V.
- When both "C1E" and "EIST" are disabled, the CPU voltage fluctuates slightly between 0.912V and 1.040V although most of the time (e.g. 90%) it's maintained at 0.912V.
With earlier BIOS versions (e.g. F5, F6i, etc), the CPU voltage immediately goes up to and maintains at 1.200V after the "C1E" is disabled. This phenomenon, however, is not noted with BIOS FVB. I'm not sure if the new observation with FVB is normal or not.
Is there gonna be a fix Rev 2.0?
Hope there is no dirty tricks.
Is there gonna be a fix Rev 2.0?
Hope there is no dirty tricks.
Sure, just give our bios engineers some time.
Anyway the tough part (duplicating the issue and fixing in Rev.1.0) seems to be done, now need to implement in other models including also X58A-UD3R Rev.2.0
I guess C1E is an embedded function of a processor. I'm interested to find out how the C1E in the BIOS is related to the CPU voltage and the C1E in software like i7Turbo, RealTemp, etc. For examples:
[1] Where do software like i7Turbo and RealTemp obtain the status of the C1E? From BIOS? From an Intel chipset driver? From a Gigabyte motherboard driver?
[2] Is the output voltage of VRM (e.g. the CPU voltage) controlled by BIOS or a software or a driver in Windows OS?
Thanks.
I guess C1E is an embedded function of a processor. I'm interested to find out how the C1E in the BIOS is related to the CPU voltage and the C1E in software like i7Turbo, RealTemp, etc. For examples:
[1] Where do software like i7Turbo and RealTemp obtain the status of the C1E? From BIOS? From an Intel chipset driver? From a Gigabyte motherboard driver?
[2] Is the output voltage of VRM (e.g. the CPU voltage) controlled by BIOS or a software or a driver in Windows OS?
Thanks.
If you studied IT etc, you would know that the bios controls everything at the hardware level.
Software like windows talks to bios, bios talks to hardware.
This is the same for printers etc, but they call it firmware.
So the answer to both your questions is bios.
(...)
With BIOS FVB (plus "Load Optimized Default" and C3/C6/C7 is enabled):
[1] "Squealing noise" described in P1 above still exists but with some improvement, i.e. the duration it occurs is shorter now.
[2] "High-pitch noise" described in P2 above does not exist.
Thanks for your tests, feedback and good news :)
Well... obviously there is some improvement, but the acoustic noise described in P1 is still very annoying, and I'm afraid in long run it's not a good idea not to solve it...
Well... obviously there is some improvement, but the acoustic noise described in P1 is still very annoying, and I'm afraid in long run it's not a good idea not to solve it...
For sure it's good that noise described in P2 disappeared as it was the most annoying. I will pass your feedback to HQ about short silent noise during booting (P1). Once again thanks for your cooperation
Well... obviously there is some improvement, but the acoustic noise described in P1 is still very annoying, and I'm afraid in long run it's not a good idea not to solve it...
For sure it's good that noise described in P2 disappeared as it was the most annoying. I will pass your feedback to HQ about short silent noise during booting (P1). Once again thanks for your cooperation
Can you explain how the new bios fixed the psu noise problem?
Did it just turn off c1e during load? Looks like that's what happen when u ran prime95.
Also this forum settings should be change, everytime you post a new post, it takes you outside of this thread.
Anyway the tough part (duplicating the issue and fixing in Rev.1.0) seems to be done, now need to implement in other models including also X58A-UD3R Rev.2.0
I have an X58A-UDR3 Revision 1
Core i7-930
I applied this FVB Bios.
There is no noticeable difference. I must turn off both CE1 and CE 3-7 option in the bios in order to not hear a headache inducing squeal.
At which point my CPU is running full tilt and getting very hot (80+ with stock cooler).
I have an X58A-UDR3 Revision 1
Core i7-930
I applied this FVB Bios.
There is no noticeable difference. I must turn off both CE1 and CE 3-7 option in the bios in order to not hear a headache inducing squeal.
At which point my CPU is running full tilt and getting very hot (80+ with stock cooler).
I also heard the noise when I applied FVB BIOS. I can't remember what I've done and the noise is gone. However, I can't confirm 100% that the noise is totally gone because the noise produced by my PSU fan is quite loud and may be the high-pitch noise (P2) due to the flaw design of the Gigabyte motherboard is not loud enough to hear at the moment. Try applying "Load Optimized Default" in BIOS and see if it helps...
I think that is about it in a nutshell! Although I don't actually expect Gigabyte to do any of these. :(
I have an X58A-UDR3 Revision 1
Core i7-930
I applied this FVB Bios.
There is no noticeable difference. I must turn off both CE1 and CE 3-7 option in the bios in order to not hear a headache inducing squeal. (...)
I also heard the noise when I applied FVB BIOS. I can't remember what I've done and the noise is gone.
fvb does nothing to fix the issue.
numerous people confirmed that fvb doesnt fix the noise problem 100%
I also heard the noise when I applied FVB BIOS. I can't remember what I've done and the noise is gone.
Hi
It's very important to know if FVB really solves the whine problem in your MB (as you reported it the very beginning) or not. Please kindly try to play more with this configuration (for instance go back to F5 bios, then again load FVB).
If it's too much trouble for you please contact me then I will help to arrange RMA for you directly from GIGABYTE UK.
Hi
It's very important to know if FVB really solves the whine problem in your MB (as you reported it the very beginning) or not. Please kindly try to play more with this configuration (for instance go back to F5 bios, then again load FVB).
If it's too much trouble for you please contact me then I will help to arrange RMA for you directly from GIGABYTE UK.
dkslim
I take it that what runn3R is referring to is a pm to him. Please can you share the info with the forum as it might be useful to the rest of us with UD7 boards too. Cheers.
Hi Dark Mantis, the noise I get is a mixture of high and mid pitched noises. The noise it makes, depends on what I am doing on the computer. For example, when loading Windows or shutting it down, I get a complex beeping and buzzing and blipping, intermittently on and off. When I am running HD Tune benchmark, I get a constant tone beeping. When I am browsing in and out of folders in windows explorer, I get a blip noise as I change folder. And when I am running DPC latency checker, there is a blip blip blip noise. So it varies.
My noise does not induce any vibration though.
Also, when I turn off C1E, the noise is gone.
So it appears we have differently behaving UD7s.
The only way I find can get rid of the noise is disabling C1e.
End of Story.
The only way I find can get rid of the noise is disabling C1e.
End of Story.
Doesn't make any difference on my machine at all :(
The only way I find can get rid of the noise is disabling C1e.
End of Story.
Doesn't make any difference on my machine at all :(
For what it is worth, my UD9 does not exhibit any untoward noises, or any at all in fact.
do u think Gigabyte will allow customers (who has the noise problem) to swap their boards (e.g. UD3R) with UD9? ::)
For what it is worth, my UD9 does not exhibit any untoward noises, or any at all in fact.
That's great... well... do u think Gigabyte will allow customers (who has the noise problem) to swap their boards (e.g. UD3R) with UD9? ::)
For what it is worth, my UD9 does not exhibit any untoward noises, or any at all in fact.
That's great... well... do u think Gigabyte will allow customers (who has the noise problem) to swap their boards (e.g. UD3R) with UD9? ::)
Does that include UD7 owners too? ;D
For what it is worth, my UD9 does not exhibit any untoward noises, or any at all in fact.
That's great... well... do u think Gigabyte will allow customers (who has the noise problem) to swap their boards (e.g. UD3R) with UD9? ::)
Does that include UD7 owners too? ;D
I remember that with the UD3R rev 1.0, the first 2 I got had the noise even after disabling C1E, but the third one had no noise after disabling C1E. So, there is some sample variance in the motherboards. However, I found that regardless of what C1E setting you have, you can eliminate the noise coming from the motherboard by fixing a vcore voltage value, rather than leaving it at Auto. Maybe you want to try that.
I remember that with the UD3R rev 1.0, the first 2 I got had the noise even after disabling C1E, but the third one had no noise after disabling C1E. So, there is some sample variance in the motherboards. However, I found that regardless of what C1E setting you have, you can eliminate the noise coming from the motherboard by fixing a vcore voltage value, rather than leaving it at Auto. Maybe you want to try that.
Thank you thank you thank you!
Fixing the vcore voltage works.
I set me vcore to 1.25v
Turned off turbo.
My machine now works at full clock with C1E enabled and NO NOISE.
Still, it would be nice if this problem was fixed completely.
That's the trouble, all these fixes are just workarounds and not actually tackling the problem itself.I remember that with the UD3R rev 1.0, the first 2 I got had the noise even after disabling C1E, but the third one had no noise after disabling C1E. So, there is some sample variance in the motherboards. However, I found that regardless of what C1E setting you have, you can eliminate the noise coming from the motherboard by fixing a vcore voltage value, rather than leaving it at Auto. Maybe you want to try that.
Thank you thank you thank you!
Fixing the vcore voltage works.
I set me vcore to 1.25v
Turned off turbo.
My machine now works at full clock with C1E enabled and NO NOISE.
Still, it would be nice if this problem was fixed completely.
That's the trouble, all these fixes are just workarounds and not actually tackling the problem itself.I remember that with the UD3R rev 1.0, the first 2 I got had the noise even after disabling C1E, but the third one had no noise after disabling C1E. So, there is some sample variance in the motherboards. However, I found that regardless of what C1E setting you have, you can eliminate the noise coming from the motherboard by fixing a vcore voltage value, rather than leaving it at Auto. Maybe you want to try that.
Thank you thank you thank you!
Fixing the vcore voltage works.
I set me vcore to 1.25v
Turned off turbo.
My machine now works at full clock with C1E enabled and NO NOISE.
Still, it would be nice if this problem was fixed completely.
Well, yes joker, I guess that would work although it sounds like a longwinded way of getting there. I favour the usage C4 myself, leaves nothing to chance ;D
Beta BIOS GA-X58A-UD3R - F6j is out on TT forum.
Beta BIOS GA-X58A-UD3R - F6j is out on TT forum.
Finally a bios that works, and works well..
Beta BIOS GA-X58A-UD3R - F6j is out on TT forum.
Finally a bios that works, and works well..
That's good news but could you be a little more specific in the changes etc?
Is the C1E option working properly now?
Yes it does, I have tested this bios for 2 hours now and it has been great so far.
So basically no further forward then. Gigabyte are trying by issuing BIOS updates but I fear that in the end, as I mentioned before, a software(BIOS) fix isn't going to repair a hardware problem. Still we live in hope. In my opinion only a hardware revision will end the problems.
So basically no further forward then. Gigabyte are trying by issuing BIOS updates but I fear that in the end, as I mentioned before, a software(BIOS) fix isn't going to repair a hardware problem. Still we live in hope. In my opinion only a hardware revision will end the problems.
In my opinion, even if Gigabyte releases a new version of UD3R (or UD7) with improved hardware, existing customers will not be benefited because I don't think Gigabyte will allow existing customers to swap their boards with the newer version.
It would seem certian motherboards the f6j solves the noise and others it does not. Very strange as mine has been noise free since I updated but then my UD3R only made the whine on start up.
I remember that with the UD3R rev 1.0, the first 2 I got had the noise even after disabling C1E, but the third one had no noise after disabling C1E. So, there is some sample variance in the motherboards. However, I found that regardless of what C1E setting you have, you can eliminate the noise coming from the motherboard by fixing a vcore voltage value, rather than leaving it at Auto. Maybe you want to try that.
Thank you thank you thank you!
Fixing the vcore voltage works.
I set me vcore to 1.25v
Turned off turbo.
My machine now works at full clock with C1E enabled and NO NOISE.
Still, it would be nice if this problem was fixed completely.
Having a fix vcore is the same thing is as turning of c1e. Google C1e for more info.
Rev. 2.0 it's already 2 weeks out.
so which bios is better F6j or FVB?
runn3R contacted me before the weekend regarding trying to sort out the GA-X58A-UD7 boards problem. In the end he suggested that I upload a video including the sound for the technical boys to listen to so maybe we will get some action on that soon. :)
runn3R contacted me before the weekend regarding trying to sort out the GA-X58A-UD7 boards problem. In the end he suggested that I upload a video including the sound for the technical boys to listen to so maybe we will get some action on that soon. :)
Are you going to record the noise of your motherboard? Well, I received PMs from moderator as well and I was told that Gigabyte would call me to discuss about my motherboard. Thus, I took a day off on last Friday waiting for the call but so far I've not received any call or feedback.
I was thinking, onemilimeter, you should video your noisy motherboard also because yours makes more of a high pitched noise if memory serves me well. Video it and then upload it to youtube or similar and then pm runn3r with the address. It may give them more to go on.
I was thinking, onemilimeter, you should video your noisy motherboard also because yours makes more of a high pitched noise if memory serves me well. Video it and then upload it to youtube or similar and then pm runn3r with the address. It may give them more to go on.
Mine (P1 & P2) have some similarities to that shown in this YouTube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDb-xQHcCx4), though they're not exactly the same. I do not have a video recorder. I only have a cheap "headset" and I'm not sure if it's good enough to pick-up especially the high-pitch noise (P2). I will try to find how I can record a sound...
I was thinking, onemilimeter, you should video your noisy motherboard also because yours makes more of a high pitched noise if memory serves me well. Video it and then upload it to youtube or similar and then pm runn3r with the address. It may give them more to go on.
Mine (P1 & P2) have some similarities to that shown in this YouTube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDb-xQHcCx4), though they're not exactly the same. I do not have a video recorder. I only have a cheap "headset" and I'm not sure if it's good enough to pick-up especially the high-pitch noise (P2). I will try to find how I can record a sound...
That noise is terrible :o I must admit that noise is worse than the low throbbing sound that comes from mine. It is not so annoying as that but because it is such a low frequency it travels as vibrations through the desk as well. I only used my digital camera with it set to video capture and my stethoscope.
... I only used my digital camera with it set to video capture and my stethoscope.
I was thinking, onemilimeter, you should video your noisy motherboard also because yours makes more of a high pitched noise if memory serves me well. Video it and then upload it to youtube or similar and then pm runn3r with the address. It may give them more to go on.
Mine (P1 & P2) have some similarities to that shown in this YouTube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDb-xQHcCx4), though they're not exactly the same. I do not have a video recorder. I only have a cheap "headset" and I'm not sure if it's good enough to pick-up especially the high-pitch noise (P2). I will try to find how I can record a sound...
That noise is terrible :o I must admit that noise is worse than the low throbbing sound that comes from mine. It is not so annoying as that but because it is such a low frequency it travels as vibrations through the desk as well. I only used my digital camera with it set to video capture and my stethoscope.
Yes that is my(very poor) attempt at capturing the noise. It is constant but as you can hear,if you turn the bass right up, it cycles at roughly 1Hz or so. That timing changes with whatever I am doing, sometimes it is much faster. As you quite rightly pointed out, the human ear is a much more finely attuned piece of equiptment than a cheapo camera microphone.That noise is terrible :o I must admit that noise is worse than the low throbbing sound that comes from mine. It is not so annoying as that but because it is such a low frequency it travels as vibrations through the desk as well. I only used my digital camera with it set to video capture and my stethoscope.
Guess this is uploaded by you (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poi4-ZTBX04)... Does the noise you mean occur almost every one second in the video?
I was thinking, onemilimeter, you should video your noisy motherboard also because yours makes more of a high pitched noise if memory serves me well. Video it and then upload it to youtube or similar and then pm runn3r with the address. It may give them more to go on.
Mine (P1 & P2) have some similarities to that shown in this YouTube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDb-xQHcCx4), though they're not exactly the same. I do not have a video recorder. I only have a cheap "headset" and I'm not sure if it's good enough to pick-up especially the high-pitch noise (P2). I will try to find how I can record a sound...
That noise is terrible :o I must admit that noise is worse than the low throbbing sound that comes from mine. It is not so annoying as that but because it is such a low frequency it travels as vibrations through the desk as well. I only used my digital camera with it set to video capture and my stethoscope.
If we are not happy or they can't fix it, can we get a refund?
Also where did u get the scope from? Are u a doc?
I also hear this really loud annoying cricket like sound, what's that?
I was thinking, onemilimeter, you should video your noisy motherboard also because yours makes more of a high pitched noise if memory serves me well. Video it and then upload it to youtube or similar and then pm runn3r with the address. It may give them more to go on.
Mine (P1 & P2) have some similarities to that shown in this YouTube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDb-xQHcCx4), though they're not exactly the same. I do not have a video recorder. I only have a cheap "headset" and I'm not sure if it's good enough to pick-up especially the high-pitch noise (P2). I will try to find how I can record a sound...
That noise is terrible :o I must admit that noise is worse than the low throbbing sound that comes from mine. It is not so annoying as that but because it is such a low frequency it travels as vibrations through the desk as well. I only used my digital camera with it set to video capture and my stethoscope.
If we are not happy or they can't fix it, can we get a refund?
Also where did u get the scope from? Are u a doc?
I also hear this really loud annoying cricket like sound, what's that?
Joker, I would say that theoretically, you would , in law, be entitled to a refund because the Trade Description Act states that any item that you purchase "must be fit for the purpose that it is sold". As such even though the board actually functions it isn't supposed to make an ungodly din next to you :o
I am unemployed now, since my stroke, but every cloud has a silver lining and it enables me to spend more time on my computer. ;D Anyone can buy a stethoscope though, just google it and there are a multitude of firms that would be more than happy to sell you one.
That really loud annoying cricket like sound is just that( really loud and annoying) just crickets for my lizards to eat. I have a large vivarium built into my office and even though iot is double glazed, mainly to keep the heat in, the crickets in there amke a god awful noise especially at night. You do tend to get used to it thogh, it's a bit like living in the jungle!
sorri to hear about your health problem
how old are u?
Also did u notice any symptoms before stroke?
also how to prevent it?
so are u impaired in anyway? and anyone looking after you?
I don't how you can live with those crickets..
it is worse than the motherboard noise. i don't see why u are complaining about board noise when u got that going on...
so u can get used to the crickets but not the motherboard noise?
The motherboard noise would be more quieter...
Btw were you active alot before stroke?
I must admit that even the motherboard noise doesn't bother me as much now as when I first had it(but dont tell Gigabyte!) The thing is during the day when the crickets are quieter I notice it more and it doesn't alter the fact that when you pay over £260 for a motherboard you don't expect it to play up at all.
I must admit that even the motherboard noise doesn't bother me as much now as when I first had it(but dont tell Gigabyte!) The thing is during the day when the crickets are quieter I notice it more and it doesn't alter the fact that when you pay over £260 for a motherboard you don't expect it to play up at all.
Well... the noise disturbs my concentration and adds more stress and frustration on me. Gigabyte should not only refund the cost of the board, but also the time we spend to test the board for them as well as those stress which may eventually cause some illness in future if it's not well controlled. :)
if you don't want them to know then better re edit your post.
Do u have an idea what cause it?
btw how quick do u forget stuff?I think most of us as we get older also get short term memory problems..
i notice i am getting it as well a bit.
Sounds good to me , onemilimeter, but I wouldn't hold my breath whist waiting. The trouble is it is an unquantifiable risk and nobody is going to do anything about that. The same as a refund I just can't see it happening, unless you want to take out a civil action in the courts, and that costs money too. Although if Gigabyte wanted to be really generous and earn lots of "Brownie Points" they could replace our boards with the UD9 version ;) That would be good for customer relations.
(...) F6j only fixed that issue for me, maybe some small improvement but not much though.
(...) F6j only fixed that issue for me, maybe some small improvement but not much though.
Have you tried with FVB bios?
HiWhat browser are you using to view the site? I was using IE8.
Can someone else try this out? and see if they get same constant noise like me. Use F5 BIOS and go to this page http://se.msn.com/ The page is Swedish sorry but you don't have to read too much though. Scroll little bit down till you see Text "Senaste nytt" that is moving, its like 1 cm scroll down or so. I get constant noise because of this. Do you guys experience same thing? I can try to make it even easier to find "Senaste nytt" its a under a bigger video. please try it out and let me know.
P.S: F6j only fixed that issue for me, maybe some small improvement but not much though.
HiWhat browser are you using to view the site? I was using IE8.
Can someone else try this out? and see if they get same constant noise like me. Use F5 BIOS and go to this page http://se.msn.com/ The page is Swedish sorry but you don't have to read too much though. Scroll little bit down till you see Text "Senaste nytt" that is moving, its like 1 cm scroll down or so. I get constant noise because of this. Do you guys experience same thing? I can try to make it even easier to find "Senaste nytt" its a under a bigger video. please try it out and let me know.
P.S: F6j only fixed that issue for me, maybe some small improvement but not much though.
I am using Mozilla. No noise with IE8. However i like Mozilla better ;D. But am not finish yet, i get noises on same page with IE8, when i move my mouse curse over the page. FBV BIOS was no success on my system no improvements what i can tell on this fast check.
I am using Mozilla. No noise with IE8. However i like Mozilla better ;D. But am not finish yet, i get noises on same page with IE8, when i move my mouse curse over the page. FBV BIOS was no success on my system no improvements what i can tell on this fast check.
Which OS that you're using? Windows 7?
Which PSU that you're using?
Did you apply the same setting as shown in this post (http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,1426.msg9778.html#msg9778)?
May be Gigabyte should compare their BIOS with that of ASUS...
Settings: Standard
Settings: Standard
What do you mean "standard"? Anyway, in my case, none of the beta BIOS has fixed the noise problem completely.
Besides one bent pin on the motherboard is surely fixable by a technician so why does that have to invalidate the warranty? ???
Besides one bent pin on the motherboard is surely fixable by a technician so why does that have to invalidate the warranty? ???
Their policy or something like that? Maybe resell it? Dunno mate, however i bent it back myself and its working fine now.
Besides one bent pin on the motherboard is surely fixable by a technician so why does that have to invalidate the warranty? ???
Their policy or something like that? Maybe resell it? Dunno mate, however i bent it back myself and its working fine now.
My point exactly, no big deal for a tech. They should have just done the repair along with whatever other repair they had to do. Bureaucracy ::)
Hi dear unfortunate users, I just joined the club with my X58a-ud5.
my rig:
X58a-ud5 rev 1.0
i7 930
psu hx-850
msi gtx 470
6x2 gskill ripjaws 16000
ssd intel 160go
hd samsung F3
C1E and EIST are deactivated in the bios. It's now working normally under Windows 7 Pro 64. But when I run games or 3D software I got back that background noise. It's very disturbing me because I live in the countryside so I can really very well listen it :(
Notice: the sound seems to come from the right speaker. If I use an headset the sound seems to come from the right again. If I use no speakers and no headset the noise seem to come from the motherboard.
If I listen music or play game with background sound it's partially cover that noise but I can't always listen music or have background sound to cover it.
What do you suggest? I'm very annoyed because I'm now out of delay to return my motherboard to the reseller. Do I must buy a new motherboard from another brand but what to do with my x58a..? Or do I must wait a fix from Gigabyte or RMA for rev 3.0 ..?
Thanks for your suggestions!
( Sorry my english must sound a bit frenchy :) )
Recently, I found that I could eliminate the noise coming from the motherboard area, by setting the voltage to a specified level (rather than leaving it at "Auto"). But this doesn't solve the problem completely, because there is still electrical buzzing noise coming from my power supply (I've tried 3 different power supplies). The power supply makes no such noise when connected to another motherboard.
I have a feeling that the Gigabyte motherboards have some error in their voltage regulation, which causes feedback to pass into the connected power supply, causing any power supply it's connected to to buzz. You'll need a power supply that is very insensitive, to get rid of the noise. But the source of the problem is the motherboard, which produces dirty power.
This is simply unacceptable. I urge everyone experiencing this noise issue to complain to Gigabyte and demand that they fix it.
This question needs to be moved to another thread, it's off topic.
This question needs to be moved to another thread, it's off topic.
Its ok we can do some off topic talk until we get some new bios to checkout. My bad, i will not bring it up here. I will send the question to Corsair.
I believe the noise problem in my system is very similar to that described by the thread starter (i.e. dkslim) of this topic as given below. If you read all the posts in this thread, you may find out that dkslim has demonstrated his problem to Gigabyte Australia RMA center and since then Gigabyte has tried several beta BIOS to solve the problem. I guess Gigabyte knows it's something wrong with their motherboard and not PSU, otherwise they will not bother to release few beta BIOS.
Correct, Gigabyte is aware that the motherboard (not the PSU) is causing the noise. We have tried several different PSUs, and there was no difference in the electrical noise coming from the motherboard. Although the noise coming from the power supplies differed slightly - some are more sensitive to the feedback coming from the motherboard than others.
Gigabyte has been quiet about this issue for a while now, so I am not sure what their progress on the fix is.
I would say that if in the end they cannot replicate the noises in their centre than they need to go into the field and listen to the noises in some customer's houses. I for one would be quite willing for them to test mine "in situ". The thing is here we are not talking about a couple of isolated incidents there are many consumers who have paid good hard cash for these boards and deserve to be able to use them without earplugs.
Hi GreenMagic
Thanks for the back handed compliment :D I don't know about many others but I built my machine myself so it is not possible to take it back to the retailer which was mail order. They are picking my baord up tomorrow though for intensive tests so hopefully they will make some progress. They have already ahd a video of the problem so they know what they are looking for.
Hi GreenMagic
Thanks for the back handed compliment :D I don't know about many others but I built my machine myself so it is not possible to take it back to the retailer which was mail order. They are picking my baord up tomorrow though for intensive tests so hopefully they will make some progress. They have already ahd a video of the problem so they know what they are looking for.
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All the time I thought the noise I heard from my system was from the CPU socket area. Yesterday when I placed the PSU outside the computer case, I found out that most of the noise was from the PSU. (...)
Hi onemilimeter
1. Are there any noises still from the MB's CPU area?
2. How it's possible that you informed OCZ through their forum (http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?73479-OCZ-StealthXStream-OCZ600SXS-UN&p=520007&viewfull=1#post520007) that "it's confirmed the noise is coming from the PSU" more than a month ago while at our forum you claimed the noise comes from the MB since the very beginning of your posts - here (24 May) (http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,1426.msg8778.html#msg8778) till last Fri (above quoted)?
3. How was the RMA process of your OCZ PSU?
Good luck with your RMA guys, hope you get working boards back. Dark Mantis if you get positive notes you buy the beers though ;D I would probably had one new if it wasn't for that darn pin. It´s all runn3r´s fault by the way.
Well spotted Kangoo. At least we now know it's not just an isolated problem with Gigabyte(will make them feel happier about it to I expect). Do they have any explanation as to the cause of the sounds?i don't know what's the explanation from asus except naming the problem as "cap whine" but indeed asus is also affected and hasn't provided any reasonable solution so far:
@ dkslim
any comment from your side?
the instances in Gigabyte boards seem to be closely related to the UD3 with some instances in the UD7 and I haven't heard of any in the UD9 group. Is this because of the increasing number of phases on these boards? The uD3 has a high pitched whine, my UD7 has a low pitched noise and as I said I haven't heard of any on the UD9. Is this just coincidence?
the instances in Gigabyte boards seem to be closely related to the UD3 with some instances in the UD7 and I haven't heard of any in the UD9 group. Is this because of the increasing number of phases on these boards? The uD3 has a high pitched whine, my UD7 has a low pitched noise and as I said I haven't heard of any on the UD9. Is this just coincidence?
The number of power phases does not affect the noise coming from the motherboard. I have tried the UD3R and the UD7, the UD7 had more than twice the number of power phases, and yet the noise coming from the motherboard CPU socket area was still the same. However, I believe the number of power phases might have an effect on the feedback noise going from the motherboard into the PSU. Because the power supplies make a bit less electrical weird noises, when connected to the UD7, than the UD3R.
I think there is no news about the UD9 making noises because:
1) Not many people buy it, as it is very expensive.
2) Those people who buy it, will overclock it straight away (otherwise why pay so much for a UD9 to run it at stock?), and as we all know, overclocking involves turning off C1E and setting a vcore voltage, which means stopping the noise coming from the CPU socket area. It also means there are lilkely to be loud fans etc, to keep temperatures under control when overclocking, making it harder to hear the noise.
3) Some people just can't hear very well, or think that the noise is coming from their hard drive instead of the motherboard/power supply.
However, there is a small chance that I am wrong, and that the noise is actually the fault of the power supplies (which cannot handle the i7 power management system), but that would mean that almost all the power supplies are faulty.
GA-X58A-UD7 (Rev.2.0) also coming soon.Here is Manual and first BIOS already released.I have just been looking at the manual and I can't see any difference so I am assuming that it has something to do with the problems we have been having.
Well I said I would post agin when I had something concrete to say. I have been testing my UD7 motherboard for a while regarding this noise. Now know that the sound coming from my board was different to the sounds I have heard coming form the UD3 boards but it may have some bearing so I sent an email to Gigabyte explaining my findings and asking for their comments. I will let you know what they say in due course.
Hello
As I said yesterday I have been running my own exhustive tests on this motherboard since I received it from you. I already stated that thie noise was diminished but still audible on setting it up.
Firstly I thought it might have been down to heat because I liquid cool my entire computer system and therefore with no CPU fan there was no secondary cooling of the CPU surrounding area which is where the coils are located.So to counter this I installed a dedicated fan for these components. I didn't notice any appreciable difference in noise level afterwards.
Secondly I thought it might be related to the PSU as has been suggested in other threads on the forum, so I removed it from the case and fixed it at a distance from the motherboard area(as much as physically possible). The noise continued unabated.
There was only one other avenue open to me and that was the cooling system. So I removed the liquid cooler from the CPU and replaced it with a Zalman aircooler that I had available. Although I had to keep it turned right down to kill the noise of the fan on it the "throbbing noise" has dissappeared as far as I could tell. Thinking it must be down to the waterblock I checked that but it was almost silent(just the noise of the flow of water). From this I deduce that the coils are very quiet but the vibrations are being amplified by the waterblock when in position.
So there is a distinct possibility that the noise on the GA-X58A-UD7 motherboards are coil induced but related to the type of heatsink fitted and that is why some boards have problems while others do not. I don't expect that this is something your technicians have tested for.
I would be interested in your comments.
I really... REALLY cant believe this >:(.
I readed all the 29 pages with attention, all words. And I cant believe.
I admire the patience you all have had. Im shocked because I never expected something like this.
Im shocked too because Gigabyte support: they dont give a sh*t until the problem was enlarged and the claims were mass. They was very slow too. I dont excepted that. You pay for your Mobos with effort, so is shocking to me because I can feel is not enough to sacrifice yourself and get the money with effort because you have to invest time and more time to help solve problems that do not correspond. Gigabyte must tested the Mobos with more attention and with more components.
Said that, I dont know what to do. I bought a X58A-UD3R REV 1.0 ten days ago and is new in the box because I need to buy some other parts yet. Surprisingly, yesterday arrived in the same shop the REV 2.0 of this Mobo and I was thinking to change the Mobos, pay the difference and get the 2.0 because is supposedly an improved version BUT it seems is not at all.
I work with audio. I will use Pro Tools, a very picky software. In the Digidesign forums, the EX58 (old Mobo) is very popular because runs PT good. But the EX58 is not more available so I bought the X58A thinking is a improved version. This problem is whit all I7 boards?
Im thinking in get the 2.0, but I need to know if this is a very general problem and all Gigabyte Mobos has this problem or just only some Mobos has this s****y sound and is a matter of luck to get one in good condition?
I cant tolerate noise because I work with audio. If I get noise, I will disable the C1E feature, it will make some damage to the system if I dont want to overclock and turn off it?
I say Thank you all for your time and effort, really. Thank you. I learn alot reading this thread. I will very attentive to your words.
J.P.
I have a 750w Corsair PSU . If I'll buy a GA-X58A-UD3R M/B, I also gonna have this noise problem or not ? What about GA-X58A-UD3R rev.2 ?
I think Corsair PSU 750W is one of them...
I wouldn't worry about it for now. If when you get your board you have the problem then change it but the majority of boards work fine. I have a Corsair PSU and it works fine with my board
QuoteI think Corsair PSU 750W is one of them...
I read most of the posts in this thread and it seems Corsair PSU 750W is one of them.
So what about UD7 or UD5 ? Are they have this noise problem with my PSU or not ?
And what about other X58 motherboards ? (from other manufactors like msi or asus)
Are the other X58 mobos (from other manufactors) also have this noise problem ?QuoteI wouldn't worry about it for now. If when you get your board you have the problem then change it but the majority of boards work fine. I have a Corsair PSU and it works fine with my board
0- I'm an unlucky person and think in this case also don't have any luck :(
1- I don't think that resellers in my country , accept to change the board for some noise .
2- And If they agree with changing , which board(s) I must take in exchange (for X58 chipsets) so I don't have this noise problem ?
There are plenty of instances on the forums of Asus boards also making noises(although I haven't heard anything as bad as the Gigabyte ones). That is why I don't recommmend people to change brands when they have the problem. I think it's something to do with the chipset and the coils that everyone is now using. Probably they are more prone to oscillation and there is a frequency that they are picking up, maybe through the power supply, and amplifying. That is why only some combinations have this problem. I just don't feel that any of the manufacturers are taking this problem seriously enough. They are more "paying lip service" to us.
(...) I have been running my own exhustive tests on this motherboard since I received it from you. I already stated that thie noise was diminished but still audible on setting it up.
Firstly I thought it might have been down to heat because I liquid cool my entire computer system and therefore with no CPU fan there was no secondary cooling of the CPU surrounding area which is where the coils are located.So to counter this I installed a dedicated fan for these components. I didn't notice any appreciable difference in noise level afterwards.
Secondly I thought it might be related to the PSU as has been suggested in other threads on the forum, so I removed it from the case and fixed it at a distance from the motherboard area(as much as physically possible). The noise continued unabated.
There was only one other avenue open to me and that was the cooling system. So I removed the liquid cooler from the CPU and replaced it with a Zalman aircooler that I had available. Although I had to keep it turned right down to kill the noise of the fan on it the "throbbing noise" has dissappeared as far as I could tell. Thinking it must be down to the waterblock I checked that but it was almost silent(just the noise of the flow of water). From this I deduce that the coils are very quiet but the vibrations are being amplified by the waterblock when in position.
So there is a distinct possibility that the noise on the GA-X58A-UD7 motherboards are coil induced but related to the type of heatsink fitted and that is why some boards have problems while others do not. (...)
To all users who experience "sound" issue on their MB's.
Please tell me if you use air or water type of cooling for the CPU including of course model name of your MB.
Thanks.
Thanks for your continued investigation of the matter, runn3R.
I use air cooling (specifically a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus) on my GA-X58A-UD3R rev 1.0 (batch 1002) motherboard and I have the noise issue.
I have an I.R. thermometer gun which I've used to check the temperature of the VRM's and other components surrounding the CPU socket. Most are in the mid-to-high 40's and none of them are over 50.
I'm using a PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Watt.
onemilimeter, I take it that you are after this information to try and build up a database of board/psu combinations that are troublesome. It is a good idea and one that I take it runn3R has also got in mind that's why he asked for the information I would think.
Hi runn3R
Has there been any indication of the problem yet? (...)
(...)
I use air cooling (specifically a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus) on my GA-X58A-UD3R rev 1.0 (batch 1002) motherboard and I have the noise issue.
I have an I.R. thermometer gun which I've used to check the temperature of the VRM's and other components surrounding the CPU socket. Most are in the mid-to-high 40's and none of them are over 50.
I was informed today that our HQ was able to hear the sound :) from your UD7. We need some time to make more tests locally about the suggested solution.
To all users of X58A-UD7 with this issue (if there are any from UK except Dark Mantis)
We need one "problematic" MB to borrow from you for a period of few days to test if the the solution works. Thanks in advance.
Did you have C1E enabled during your testing?
Update
I now have two motherboards and two power supplies.
Motherboards are the Asus P6X58D-Premium and the Gigabyte X58A-UD3R Rev.1
The power supplies are the PC Power and Cooling Quad 750 Silencer (the original) and a new Seasonic X-750
All Bios settings left at default EXCEPT turning on XMP profile for my ram.
Here are the test results when Windows 7 initiates power savings.
PC Power and Cooling Quad 750 Silencer
P6X58D-Premium: Coil wine coming from Powre Supply
X58A-UD3R: Unbearable pig frying alive in hot oil sound coming from motherboard
Seasonic X-750
P6X58D-Premium: Silence
X58A-UD3R: very very slight noise coming from the power supply. I have to have my head beside it as it's out of the case to hear it.
The ending
I'm keeping the X58A-UD3R
The Asus board refuses to work with my SLI cards and my x4 raid controller at the same time (either one nvidia card and the raid controller or the two nvidia cards and no raid). That and I have to run the qpi link at 1.4v instead of the speced 1.35v to keep in stable.
PC Power and Cooling has offered to replace my Silencer under RMA and I'll have that as a backup.
So, there you have it. Morel of the story is you need a good, new power supply to run these latest batch of X58 Motherboards.
Another Update.
So Once I got everything put back into the case and all my hardrives installed etc. the board started making more noise.
It's pretty much unacceptable again.
The Asus board is dead silent. So I will have to make that board work.
There is something wrong with the X58A-UD3R. Not even a new top of the line PSU like the Seasonic X750 could fix the noise issue, it only improved it.
Nothing new I am aware of, I'm afraid. I don't know if your budget can stand it but the UD5 seems to be noise free and of course is a slightly better board.
My replacement GA-X58A-UD3R (a Rev. 2, ;D) board running on stock BIOS settings (as in straight out of the box) is as silent as a sleeping baby.
FWIW my setup is:
I7 930, with Akasa Nero S
OCZ Gold 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C8 (1600MHz) Tri-Channel (OCZ3G1600LV6GK)
Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024MB
Coolermaster Silent Pro 700W Modular PSU
Fractal Design Define R2 case
Regards
Peter
Does the Asus board have features like C1E, C3/C6/C7 state, and EIST etc?
Does the Asus board have features like C1E, C3/C6/C7 state, and EIST etc?
Yes, Yes (but not on by default, I did enable it), no idea.
I recieved my X58A-UD9 Friday and it has 0 whine issues so I dont understand why Gigabyte has not fixed the UD3R issue yet. I will keep you updated. Awesome board so far.
I recieved my X58A-UD9 Friday and it has 0 whine issues so I dont understand why Gigabyte has not fixed the UD3R issue yet. I will keep you updated. Awesome board so far.
I recieved my X58A-UD9 Friday and it has 0 whine issues so I dont understand why Gigabyte has not fixed the UD3R issue yet. I will keep you updated. Awesome board so far.
Hopefully Gigabyte will allow us to exchange for UD9... Ha Ha... I'm dreaming...
In theory it will shorten the lifespan of your chip but in reality you will probably discard the chip and upgrade it before it burns out. It is only the fact that it allows the CPU to throttle back when not being used. Because of this you will use slightly more energy too.
There will never be a solution. It's a hardware problem and there isnt much Gigabyte is going to do about this issue.
It's not reasonable to buy HX850 as my system needs at least 40amps on 12v rail. 650w with 52-54amps is enough :P
Did you hear any feedbacks about seasonic x650 ?
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[5] Gigabyte UK tested my original UD3R again on 28 July 2010 and finally they confirmed they heard the noise.
[6] Gigabyte UK confirmed that they were able to hear the squealing noise and whine (high pitch) noise no matter which PSU was used (including branded PSUs).
Gigabyte Australia and Gigabyte UK have confirmed that they were able to hear the audible noise caused by UD3R. I'm still waiting for Gigabyte's comment or solution. Unfortunately, it's been three weeks or more and I receive no update of my original UD3R.
We are still investigating it, FYI.
runn3R I have been searching for this new BIOS FYI but can't find it anywhere ::) ::)
I have a rev 2.0 X58A-UD3R and thought I'd chime in. I just loaded windows and haven't really tried any normal use of the machine yet, but I immediately noticed a high pitched whine that does not change. It takes a couple seconds after powering on to make the sound, but then it's constant. I thought it may be a fan, but after reading most of the posts here, I believe it's the electrical noise problem. I don't buy into the whole test multiple power supplies, graphics cards, changing C1E and voltage settings (although I did change C1E and voltage anyway to no avail). I'm still at the original bios FA by the way. Anyway, as users, we shouldn't have to change our systems totally around and do without features like power saving, etc. to avoid this type of noise, especially if we are already using fairly high end, proven stuff. For $209, I expect a lot more. I'll be playing with the board, maybe update the bios tomorrow, but if the sound doesn't go away, I'll be RMAing this to newegg and seeing if I can avoid a restocking fee. If you look at the recent reviews at newegg in the past 2 weeks, most are very negative on this board.
Strangley changing all voltage settings to normal stopped the system booting into windows
Strangley changing all voltage settings to normal stopped the system booting into windows it would open to the logon screen then try to open and get the desktop then reboot.If you have the memory set to a higher frequency than 1066, you need higher voltage for the memory and qpi/something (if i'm not mistaken), I'm not sure but if you set it to normal it might be the low normal and not the normal from the xmp profile of the memory modules. I just set the cpu voltage to something and leave the rest at auto.
It sounds like a latency problem. Try running DPC Latency checker and see what readings you get. You will propbably find that there are some well into the red.
Dark Mantis
Like you, I have the UD7 board. Mine's rev1.0 and I have a 675W ThermalTake PSU. I disabled c1e and EAIT, and sure enough the squealing and screeching disappeared. I tried adding C3/C5/C7 and the system howled like a banshee. I picked up your summary of the new Rev 2.0 board. Doesn't inspire me to try returning my board, and to be honest I too am doubtful the UD7 board will ever be free of this squealing, even with a new revision and a BIOS update (unless it disables the power saving modes in some way - which kind of defeats the point of it).
Thanks to you, dkslim and the other contributors for doing such a professional job of chasing this issue down.
The pressure is on mobo companies to push new technology out to ride the wave of the latest fashion. Short development and manufacturing times mean that mistakes are inevitable - some may not be entirely their fault (seems you're right about this issue plaguing other x58 configurations). All that I ask is that the companies put things right asap when problems occur. If they want to retain their reputation and customers, it's the only approach in the long run. The internet is a powerful thing...
I my mobo is GA X58-ud5 and i report the same electrical noises with my psu Nox 750W. I change the PSU to HX Corsair 850W and my noises disappear try change PSU it can resolv the problem like me.
I'll keep my Motherboard with C1 disabled and stop. I hope that my cpu will not die sooner
I cannot send my motherboard in RMA....wait 15 days minimum (without pc...) and then HOPE that on the new one there will be no problems....
and is there a solution for people out of UK ? (I'm french and having the same problem.. :( )
Hi foks
I sent my MB for RMA in NL, (...) they replace the MB with a new MB (not new in those terms, just another one from there stock) that they had tested and good to go, no electric high pitch noise on this one. I had it installed in my system now and guess what? Yeees the noise is still there. (...)
and is there a solution for people out of UK ? (I'm french and having the same problem.. :( )
Not yet as first I want to have it tested in UK first. After we do it then I will try to check about it and contact you.Hi foks
I sent my MB for RMA in NL, (...) they replace the MB with a new MB (not new in those terms, just another one from there stock) that they had tested and good to go, no electric high pitch noise on this one. I had it installed in my system now and guess what? Yeees the noise is still there. (...)
As far as I know only UK RMA is aware of the rework procedure so probably that's the reason. You are in the same situation like Brzhk from France.
(...) Has runn3R offered you the deal on the UD9 yet? ;)
He is probably fixing with the paper works now ;D;) Of course
Well... got another motherboard today(3-rd). First of all, it was rev 1.0 and not 2.0 (the 1 i gave back was 2.0)
Second, it wasn't new
Third, it had the same problem as my first rev 1.0 with the fron tpanel audio. When you plug in 2 devices the driver goes crazy spamming "divice pluged in" and "device pluged out"...
Tomorrow i'll rma it again. It's getting kind of exhausting and costly in terms of gas etc...
The problem is i don't know what to ask. Either a rev 2.0, or a different brand, less good, but less problematic(if not DOA ;D ;D) board...
I had this problem as a result of posting here Gigabyte RMA'd my board did some work now straight out of the box no noise it works ok and I am verry happy.
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Maybe we can get runn3R to post on here with a brief rundown of the alterations.
It's just change of 1 capacitor and loading FVB bios. Easy but works :)
runn3R this sounds very promising- do you know if Gigabyte Australia are planning to implement the change? Could you also confirm that the fix works for the UD7 board?
Is this related at all to the new F7B beta bios that has popped up now for the Revision 1.0 boards? I've been unable to find update notes for that bios anywhere so I am wary of flashing it.
Is this related at all to the new F7B beta bios that has popped up now for the Revision 1.0 boards? I've been unable to find update notes for that bios anywhere so I am wary of flashing it.
No not to my knowledge. The FVB BIOS is a special BIOS for this problem and as far as I know hasn't been released generally and is only for the UD3R boards.
Where did you see this BIOS version?
Hi and welcome to the Gigabyte Forum.
As soon as the testing has finished and the fix is proven the other Gigabyte centres will be running the same schemes I am sure.
Have you disabled EIST also?
To users from all countries (not only UK & IRL) who experience this problem:
All our RMA centers are now aware about the fix for X58A-UD3R Rev. 1.0. So you can start your RMA procedure according to the regulations in your country (through the place of purchase or directly).
Hi The punisher
Yes, only for 1.0 at this moment.
P.S. If disabling C1E doesn't help in your MB then it can be a little different issue than discussed in this thread.
Hi neurocon
You may try this special bios ver. FVA (http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/upload/files/BIOS_X58A-UD3R_2_FVA.zip) for X58A-UD3R Rev.2.0.
If this will not help then please sent the MB for RMA as additional (hardware) fix is now available.
Thanks
(...) will there be a problem mixing this BIOS with the newest drivers ? i guess no, just asking to be on the safe side..
Hi ex58OK,thanks.
Bios ver. FVA which is placed at
http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte/28441-gigabyte-latest-bios-3.html#post270437
is for Rev.1.0 indeed
But ver. FVA which is placed at
http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,1426.msg26303.html#msg26303
is for Rev.2.0, believe me.
P.S. I have checked these files and they are different. You can FC them if still have doubts.
Hi Mhz
As promised here you have it: the special bios ver. FVA (http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/upload/files/BIOS_X58A-UD5_1_FVA.zip) for X58A-UD5 Rev.1.0.
If this will not help then please sent your MB for RMA as hardware fix is also available.
As promised here you have it: the special bios ver. FVA (http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/upload/files/BIOS_X58A-UD5_1_FVA.zip) for X58A-UD5 Rev.1.0.
If this will not help then please sent your MB for RMA as hardware fix is also available.
Is gigabyte Canada fixing this issue as well? My ud3 board is making the same whining noise and is just too annoying.
I have tried all suggestions here like disabling c1e and stuff but not having much luck.
Have you tried turning off EIST in the BIOS also? Often this helps stop the noises.
There has been no evidence of any long term damage to any of the board or components. (...)Correct
Hi Night Fwog
Thanks for PM. You have few ways (which have been described in this thread already) to solve it:
1) disable C1E setting in BIOS setup
2) load special bios FVB (http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/upload/files/BIOS_X58A-UD3R_1_FVB.zip)
3) send the MB to RMA for implementing hardware fix
Hear what, jolphil ? HuhHeck, I can't hear anything over 1 to 2 khz Just ask my wife..
I haven't been able to hear the wife for years now WinkNow you are revealing every Man's secret..tisch tisch
Hi
You didn't mention your location and it's not in your profile.
Have you tried the official BIOS for this problem ?
(...) I was trying to arrange an RMA directly with Gigabyte (USA), but they didn't seem to know anything about the hardware fix.
(...) If there is any problem with the US centre not knowing about the fix (which I can't see) ask them to contact either Taiwan or here.
(..) If you have a Gigabyte centre in the Czech Republic then there shouldn't be a problewm with having the fix applied. (...)
I'm to having same trouble with noise
i have updated to the last bios version and that not helped
Motherbord: GA-X58A-UD5 rev 2.0 with FD BIOS
Seasonic M12D-850 as power supply
and to add this noise is some times go away but some times returns randomly so I'm waiting for bios fix too :)
Hi runn3R and Dark Mantis - I have a Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R rev 2.0 with bios FF and I'm getting the noises again. (...)
Hi runn3R and Dark Mantis - I have a Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R rev 2.0 with bios FF and I'm getting the noises again. I had been running the machine for a while and somehow had gotten the noises to stop with a previous BIOS, but with this recent BIOS Flash they're back and now I can't seem to get rid of them.
Is there a different BIOS to try for this rev or what are my options at this point?
Even though it may not feel like it it is the ability source unfortunately it is the motherboard causing it because my P5b did not do so. Disabling 'C1E' inside the BIOS got free of the sound in my circumstances.
Even though it may not feel like it it is the ability source unfortunately it is the motherboard causing it because my P5b did not do so. Disabling 'C1E' inside the BIOS got free of the sound in my circumstances.