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Questions about GIGABYTE products => Motherboards with AMD processors => Topic started by: LMP on March 01, 2011, 02:12:19 pm
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I am thinking about buying a Corsair H50 water cooling setup and noticed that some of the installation videos said that you could use the standard back plate that comes on the mother board so you don't need to remove the mother board to install the H50. I don't think that any of the videos featured the GA-790XTA-UD4 so I am wondering if the GA-790XTA-UD4 has a CPU back plate on it that can be used in mounting the H50?
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No you have to change it. Something that is very simple then. You have to take out your motherboard to do the job
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I am thinking about buying a Corsair H50 water cooling setup and noticed that some of the installation videos said that you could use the standard back plate that comes on the mother board so you don't need to remove the mother board to install the H50. I don't think that any of the videos featured the GA-790XTA-UD4 so I am wondering if the GA-790XTA-UD4 has a CPU back plate on it that can be used in mounting the H50?
LMP,
You may want to reconsider Corsair cooling kits. I purchased and have used both the H50 and the H70. They both worked well...but then the H70 began to leak and placed my entire system at risk. A number of people are saying the hoses are too rigid.
I have added a pic to show you the leak.
I am presently considering two different options:
1. Build a simple loop using higher quality and somewhat leak proof components
2. Purchase an Antec KÜHLER H2O 620 [the hoses are more flexible and safer I believe].
Hope this helps!
Soar
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you might want to check this thread out: http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,4143.0.html as this user had a problem when he tried using this cooler. :'(
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I still think a couple of clamps is the simple solution and should have been fitted as standard really.
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I am thinking about buying a Corsair H50 water cooling setup and noticed that some of the installation videos said that you could use the standard back plate that comes on the mother board so you don't need to remove the mother board to install the H50. I don't think that any of the videos featured the GA-790XTA-UD4 so I am wondering if the GA-790XTA-UD4 has a CPU back plate on it that can be used in mounting the H50?
LMP,
You may want to reconsider Corsair cooling kits. I purchased and have used both the H50 and the H70. They both worked well...but then the H70 began to leak and placed my entire system at risk. A number of people are saying the hoses are too rigid.
I have added a pic to show you the leak.
I am presently considering two different options:
1. Build a simple loop using higher quality and somewhat leak proof components
2. Purchase an Antec KÜHLER H2O 620 [the hoses are more flexible and safer I believe].
Hope this helps!
Soar
Thanks for the heads up. The Antec KÜHLER H2O 620 is the same price as the H50 so I think I will get the Antec instead. Are you presently using the Antec?
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you might want to check this thread out: http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,4143.0.html as this user had a problem when he tried using this cooler. :'(
I cant quite figure out what happened to that guys motherboard in the other thread. Did the cooling system leak water on to the motherboard or was it cracked due to overtightened mounting screws or maybe both?
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I cant quite figure out what happened to that guys motherboard in the other thread. Did the cooling system leak water on to the motherboard or was it cracked due to overtightened mounting screws or maybe both?
It seems the damage was caused by over tightening the mounts but also the use of the self adhesive tape to mount the backplate which was a little harder to remove than anticipated.
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Thanks for the heads up. The Antec KÜHLER H2O 620 is the same price as the H50 so I think I will get the Antec instead. Are you presently using the Antec?
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After waiting nearly one full month, I just received from Corsair the replacement H70 this week. To be 100% honest with you, I am still debating what to do. It sounds as if building a simple loop with really nice parts is the safest way to go for the water cooling route. But that requires a lot of knowledge and understanding of which quality parts to purchase...and I have such little experience in this area. Before the leak, I was totally convinced the H50 and H70 was the way to go: low price, fairly good benchmarks, and safe as can be. But now I have lost confidence and no longer feel comfortable using Corsair products for water cooling.
I went back to air on my AMD build, using a Hyper 212+ but I still do not like the idea of a large heatsink and shroud in my case [I really like the idea of a small pump on the CPU with hoses going to a radiator because it allows such better air flow throughout the entire case].
The Antec KÜHLER H2O 620 seems like a good solution, but it is still fairly new and there are not massive reviews describing people's experience with it. The one professional review gives it excellent scores, but who knows what happens over time? Not sure on that yet...
For the time being, I still have the H50 in my Intel i5-750 build. I will sell the new H70 on Craigslist or EBay. Eventually I wil remove the H50 and not use it again. The risk for me is not worth it.
As you can see, I am still searching for the best solution and I am not sure what it is right now.
Soar
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Don't get me wrong but isn't this Antec pretty much the same as the H50/H70?
From what I've heard XSPC does some nice WC kits but they're more expensive. Still, then you have a normal WC setup compared to this strange something the Corsair / Antec kits are.
Something like this, for example: http://www.xspc.biz/rasa750rs240kit.php
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I would have to agree with bytheway_r that if you don't have the time to decide on all the individual componets yourself then some kit like he describes is a good second choice. All you have to decide on is the size of pipe and connectors to use.
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Don't get me wrong but isn't this Antec pretty much the same as the H50/H70?
From what I've heard XSPC does some nice WC kits but they're more expensive. Still, then you have a normal WC setup compared to this strange something the Corsair / Antec kits are.
Something like this, for example: http://www.xspc.biz/rasa750rs240kit.php
bytheway,
Yes, most people say the Antec 620 is made of similar components as the Corsair versions. The part that is different is the hoses. They say the hoses are more flexible and larger diameter too.
That sure is a nice WC kit! How much do they cost?
Soar
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First store off the XSPC site: http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g/c83/s137/list/p1/b49/XSPC-Water_Cooling_Kits_Cases-Water_Cooling_Kits-Page1.html
Funnily enough, they cost about the same in the UK, just in pounds instead of dollars ;D. That's why I thought these were quite a bit more expensive than Corsair offerings. Seems like the difference isn't all that big, at least in that linked store ( Corsair H70 - 109.99$ ). With these prices I'd say that XSPC kit is a much better deal. Heck, if they cost the same here as they do in the States I'd go for one myself. In Poland the cheaper of these 2 XSPC kits is about 2,5 times the price of a H70.
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I agree they do seem to offer exceptional value for money. 8)
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I agree they do seem to offer exceptional value for money. 8)
Yes, I totally agree too. $129.99 for the entire set up seems like a much better and safer deal than Corsair's H70.
The installation videos on Utube were really nice too.
As I read the reviews on this WC kit, several people recommended the Feser UV blue [special cooling fluid] for an extra $29.99. Then there is also the extra cost of the Feser Corrosion Blocker, the Antimicrobial, and the Dead Water Biocidal...and one video showed using the extra UV dye...
All things considered, all together this kit may run closer to $180. That's a bit expensive for me, a person on a tight budget. The Hyper 212+ on sale for $15 and installed and orientated so it blows the hot air upward, out of my 200 mm Sniper Case fan suddenly appears a little more attractive!
Soar
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I appreciate what you are saying Soar and that is what I have always told you that watercooling is an expensive passtime to start up. To be fair though you don't need all those fluids etc. One would do. There shouldn't be any need for anti-bacterial; as it is incorporated, the same with the UV dye and the corrsion blocker is only used when you are using different metals in the system like copper and aluminium.
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DM was quicker but I won't bother editing my post ;).
As I read the reviews on this WC kit, several people recommended the Feser UV blue [special cooling fluid] for an extra $29.99. Then there is also the extra cost of the Feser Corrosion Blocker, the Antimicrobial, and the Dead Water Biocidal...and one video showed using the extra UV dye...
You know, I'm not a WC guy but I think all you need is either cooling fluid or distilled water + corrosion blocker and neither of those exceed 20$ on that site. I'm not sure about that anti-bacteria thing but I don't think it's necessary, DM?
About price / performance... that's why I went with Mugen 2 as it was reasonably cheap while offering good enough performance. I mean, a H70 would be close to what I paid for my CPU and that's too much for me.
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I appreciate what you are saying Soar and that is what I have always told you that watercooling is an expensive passtime to start up. To be fair though you don't need all those fluids etc. One would do. There shouldn't be any need for anti-bacterial; as it is incorporated, the same with the UV dye and the corrsion blocker is only used when you are using different metals in the system like copper and aluminium.
Yes, you are so right again DM! I love the effects of a nice water cooled system...but it is quite expensive when compared to the Hyper 212+.
To make matters more favorable, Fry's here just put the Hyper 212+ on sale this weekend for $17.99. It is almost exactly 1/10th the price of the XSPC kit. That makes it kind of hard to pass up..especially if you are a poor boy like me!
I think I'll go the Hyper 212+ route for now until I strike it rich and find a gold mind in our backyard or something. Since that is not very probably, I just may be using the Hyper 212+ for some years to come...all 626 grams of it!
Have a good one!
Soar
PS Some pics of the Hyper 212+ included
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DM was quicker but I won't bother editing my post ;).
As I read the reviews on this WC kit, several people recommended the Feser UV blue [special cooling fluid] for an extra $29.99. Then there is also the extra cost of the Feser Corrosion Blocker, the Antimicrobial, and the Dead Water Biocidal...and one video showed using the extra UV dye...
You know, I'm not a WC guy but I think all you need is either cooling fluid or distilled water + corrosion blocker and neither of those exceed 20$ on that site. I'm not sure about that anti-bacteria thing but I don't think it's necessary, DM?
About price / performance... that's why I went with Mugen 2 as it was reasonably cheap while offering good enough performance. I mean, a H70 would be close to what I paid for my CPU and that's too much for me.
Bytheway,
Yes, I believe you are correct about using distilled water for a WC kit. I think I also read somewhere people use antifreeze fluid used in automobile cooling systems.
I looked into the Mugen 2. It appears to be a very good CPU cooler but it is presently a discontinued model. I'm also not sure if it would work on the 1155 MOBO's.
For now, the Hyper 212+ seems to be the best choice for a budget minded person like me. They say I can install a push/pull fan set up on it too if I so desire. I also like the design of the direct contact of the heat pipes to CPU.
I plan on pulling the H50 out of my i5-750 build. I thought about gluing it to by baseball cap and using it to cool the back of my head this summer, but people at work might think my elevator does not go all the way up. I suppose I must find another use of it.
Here's the specs/info on the Hyper 212+:
Model
Brand
COOLER MASTER
Model
RR-B10-212P-G1
Spec
Type
Fan & Heatsinks
Fan Size
120mm
Compatibility
Intel: Socket LGA1366 / 1156 / 1155 / 775
AMD: Socket AM3 / AM2 / AM2+
Bearing Type
Long life sleeve
RPM
600 - 2000 RPM
Air Flow
21.2 - 76.8 CFM
Noise Level
13 - 32 dBA
Power Connector
4 Pin
Heatsink Material
Aluminum
Physical Spec
Fan Dimensions
120 x 120 x 25 mm
Weight
626g
Features
Features
Well-balanced cooling performance
1. Computer aided heatsink design provides fin optimization with perfect balance between high and low speed operation.
2. 4 x Direct Contact heat-pipes for seamless contact between CPU surface and cooler.
3. Wide-range PWM fan with unique blade design for excellent airflow.
4. Upgradable to dual fans and swapping of fans with extra fan-clips included.
Fan mounting using clips for easy installation and swapping.
Versatile all-in-one mounting solution for Intel Socket LGA775/1156/1366 and AMD Socket AM3 / AM2 / AM2+.
Silent operation with minimal noise level at 13 dBA