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Questions about GIGABYTE products => Motherboards with AMD processors => Topic started by: AgentFXA on November 02, 2014, 10:29:01 pm

Title: GA-990FXA UD3v3
Post by: AgentFXA on November 02, 2014, 10:29:01 pm
...using the FDk bios I see no XMP menu options (profiles) for my new Fury ram while my old HyperX 1600 did show xmp options. However the ram is working fine at 1866 (out of the retail box) but again it's completely transparent to the bios menu.

Is this intended behaviour? no way to disable xmp or change speed profile? ... looks weird to me!



Title: Re: GA-990FXA UD3v3
Post by: JGB123 on November 04, 2014, 02:45:32 am
Yes it is intended behaviour:

Quote
Note:
The PnP feature offers a range of speed and timing options to support
the widest variety of processors and chipsets.
Your maximum speed will
be determined by your BIOS.

HX318C10F_8.p65 - HX318C10F_8.pdf
http://www.kingston.com/dataSheets/HX318C10F_8.pdf

FTR at 1866MHz only a maximum of two DIMMs can be used on that (and a number of other AMD) motherboard(s):

Quote
Note: Only one DIMM per channel is supported for DDR3-1866MHz and higher speed as using an AM3+ CPU.

QVL 990FXA-UD3.xls - memory_ga-990fxa-ud3.pdf
http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Memory/memory_ga-990fxa-ud3.pdf

DDR3 memory frequency guide
http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/ddr3memoryfrequencyguide.aspx
Title: Re: GA-990FXA UD3v3
Post by: AgentFXA on November 04, 2014, 03:38:08 am
http://s11.postimg.org/7bqy7stoj/Kingston_001.jpg (http://s11.postimg.org/7bqy7stoj/Kingston_001.jpg)

Hmm, my old Kingston 1600 XMP ram died slowly (after 3 years) not booting any more at 1600 (XMP) - only way to revive it was flushing/reset sys bios hence this ram returned to 1333 and at this speed it was still working fine (and booting windows). It helped me until I got the new Fury ram!

I wonder what is Fury doing in exact this case as you can't do anything coz there is nothing speed related (option) in the bios hence no way to switch down speed manually!

I doubt Fury is that smart to handle such a situation - meh?!





Title: Re: GA-990FXA UD3v3
Post by: JGB123 on November 04, 2014, 03:58:35 am
Can you see any of these options in the UEFI / BIOS?

Page 38
"Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)" etc

mb_manual_ga-990fxa-ud3_v.3.x_e.pdf
http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_ga-990fxa-ud3_v.3.x_e.pdf
Title: Re: GA-990FXA UD3v3
Post by: AgentFXA on November 04, 2014, 04:02:52 am
as mentioned in my initial post - FDk bios absolutely nothing there with Fury ram!

Title: Re: GA-990FXA UD3v3
Post by: JGB123 on November 04, 2014, 04:06:50 am
How well does your rig run?
Title: Re: GA-990FXA UD3v3
Post by: AgentFXA on November 04, 2014, 04:13:36 am
Perfect, but it will not help in the above given problem scenario - I hope you see my point?


Title: Re: GA-990FXA UD3v3
Post by: JGB123 on November 04, 2014, 04:49:23 am
I think I see your point:

Your computer runs perfectly but if the Plug n Play RAM you bought ever starts misbehaving it won't allow you to manually control its frequency and timings.

There doesn't appear to be a tech support e-mail for Australia:

Contact Information | Kingston
http://www.kingston.com/us/company/contacts#tech

I'd send them a PM to confirm whether or not the HyperX Fury is designed to preempt manual control of its operating parameters.

Kingston Technology
https://www.facebook.com/kingstontechnology?ref=ts&fref=ts
Title: Re: GA-990FXA UD3v3
Post by: AgentFXA on November 04, 2014, 05:44:00 am
I think I see your point:

Your computer runs perfectly but if the Plug n Play RAM you bought ever starts misbehaving it won't allow you to manually control its frequency and timings.......

more importantly if there are no (manual) XMP options in the sys bios those can't be reset to a defined default by resetting the bios - that is what helped me keep my old faulty ram going. Fury is missing that option completely.

I don't think that contacting Kingston makes any sense coz they would not be able to help - a little design oversight with painful consequences for those affected.



Title: Re: GA-990FXA UD3v3
Post by: JGB123 on November 04, 2014, 05:53:19 am
Plan B:

Post a thread in the Intel side of this forum to learn if HyperX Fury users there are experiencing a similar issue.
Title: Re: GA-990FXA UD3v3
Post by: AgentFXA on November 04, 2014, 06:05:29 am
Okay, done it .. let's see what comes but I think Intel is smarter than that?
Title: Re: GA-990FXA UD3v3
Post by: JGB123 on November 04, 2014, 06:24:02 am
While you're waiting...

According to Kingston the HyperX Fury's stock speed & timing should be: 1866MHz, 10-11-10-30

HyperX FURY - High Performance DDR3 Memory | Kingston
http://www.kingston.com/us/hyperx/memory/fury

If you wish to you can verify this by downloading and running the latest version (the only one which recognizes FX CPUs) of this:

Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool
http://www.memtest.org/
Title: Re: GA-990FXA UD3v3
Post by: AgentFXA on November 04, 2014, 07:03:19 am
You can have it a little easier:

http://s23.postimg.org/pw5hgaz8r/fu2_Capture.png (http://s23.postimg.org/pw5hgaz8r/fu2_Capture.png)
http://s23.postimg.org/5q1zhf3l7/fu_Capture.png (http://s23.postimg.org/5q1zhf3l7/fu_Capture.png)
Title: Re: GA-990FXA UD3v3
Post by: JGB123 on November 05, 2014, 05:22:44 pm
A PM from the Facebook group HyperX Community:

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"Hi John, Your maximum speed will be determined by your BIOS automatically with our FURY modules. It is also possible to adjust the memory settings in the BIOS. Please refer to the datasheet of your HyperX product as well as the manual of your motherboard. Please do not hesitate to contact our Technical Support department for further assistance: eu_technicalATkingston.eu Thanks!"

HyperX Community
https://www.facebook.com/hyperxcommunity
Title: Re: GA-990FXA UD3v3
Post by: AgentFXA on November 05, 2014, 10:14:52 pm
when you see my fu2.. link right above....

it becomes clear the Fury ram has not been designed with a speed fall-back option in mind - technically a cheap job just adding a 1333 JEDEC (failsafe option)  and the problem would be fixed! I don't feel well with such a slobbish ram design.



Title: Re: GA-990FXA UD3v3
Post by: JGB123 on November 06, 2014, 12:51:14 am
That P n P RAM is behaving as advertised and your machine is running fine.

If you want something genuine to complain about then buy one of these:

GIGABYTE GA-970A-DS3P Problems
http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,14802.0.html
Title: Re: GA-990FXA UD3v3
Post by: AgentFXA on November 06, 2014, 01:15:19 am
I can only hope other ram manufacturer stay smarter than Kingston - end of thread!