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Title: GA-Z170N-Gaming 5 No post No beeps.
Post by: Pixelgent on February 21, 2016, 04:26:15 pm
I just built this system and it ran fine for 2 days. Had a blue screen kernel error and now the computer is stuck in a boot loop with no beeps and no post. There is also no display and no power to keyboard. The cpu fans turn on and stay on for about 10-12 seconds and then it shuts off and loops over. The ambient led light on the mobo is also on as well as the geforce led when I had the graphics card installed. I have looked for bent pins and tried another psu as well as reseating the ram and trying only 1 stick in different combinations. I had done some looking and it looks like the ram may not work at this speed but the system did run fine for a couple days. I have reset the cmos to no avail. Wanted to get some feedback before I replace the ram with 2133.

The system has in it
Intel 6700k
GA-Z170N-Gaming 5
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB DDR4 2400
SILVERSTONE SFX Series SX600-G
GTX 980 Ti
Title: Re: GA-Z170N-Gaming 5 No post No beeps.
Post by: shadowsports on February 21, 2016, 05:08:43 pm
Good job troubleshooting.

Not disputing the RAM possibility, but can you describe the steps taken to reset/CLR the CMOS. Did you disconnect power, before jumping?  Have you performed a battery pull?

That's quite a bit of RAM.  You may want to consider 16GB to defer the cost of 2133.  Unless you are editing video or large photos, you will not bite into the RAM above 16GB under normal circumstances.
Title: Re: GA-Z170N-Gaming 5 No post No beeps.
Post by: Pixelgent on February 21, 2016, 05:21:33 pm
I did disconnect the power before jumping and I have also done a battery pull. Even left it out of the mobo overnight. The ram wont be an issue replacing. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't the cpu or mobo.

The reason for the large amount of ram is editing 8k textures and running maya photoshop and unreal 4 at once. That and large level streaming in unreal.
Title: Re: GA-Z170N-Gaming 5 No post No beeps.
Post by: JD on April 22, 2016, 10:58:02 am
I just built this system and it ran fine for 2 days. Had a blue screen kernel error and now the computer is stuck in a boot loop with no beeps and no post. There is also no display and no power to keyboard. The cpu fans turn on and stay on for about 10-12 seconds and then it shuts off and loops over. The ambient led light on the mobo is also on as well as the geforce led when I had the graphics card installed. I have looked for bent pins and tried another psu as well as reseating the ram and trying only 1 stick in different combinations. I had done some looking and it looks like the ram may not work at this speed but the system did run fine for a couple days. I have reset the cmos to no avail. Wanted to get some feedback before I replace the ram with 2133.

The system has in it
Intel 6700k
GA-Z170N-Gaming 5
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB DDR4 2400
SILVERSTONE SFX Series SX600-G
GTX 980 Ti

Hi, just wondering have you had any luck with this, as the same thing is happening to me, with same motherboard, i have tried all the things that you did and a few more, but still wont boot to bios.

its running,
z170n gaming 5
i76700k
corsair vengeance lpx 2x8gb
be quite 400w psu
samsung 850 m2 ssd
corsair H75 cooler
Title: Re: GA-Z170N-Gaming 5 No post No beeps.
Post by: shadowsports on April 23, 2016, 02:41:17 pm
The common factor for both of you here is the 2400Mhz memory. 

Corsair QVL states compatibility with Z170 Force and SOC only
http://www.corsair.com/~/media/corsair/download-files/manuals/dram/ddr4-compatibility.pdf

Gigabyte QVL
http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_ga-z170n-gaming5.pdf

All 2400Mhz memory listed as compatible is xxX4M4A2xxx

You are trying to use
CMK16GX4M2A2400C14R
Title: Re: GA-Z170N-Gaming 5 No post No beeps.
Post by: dmdilks on April 23, 2016, 03:02:34 pm
We have had a lot of these boards have problems with memory over 2133. I had some problems with the 2400 memory myself. I could only get it to run 2133 mode. Plus if your memory is not XMP supported you will have a hard time getting it to run at 2400 speed.

All I can say is get some 2133 memory and give it a try. The other thing I will add to what shadowsports posted is you really not going get any boost in speed going from 2133 to 3000 or high. This is as I feel is a scam by the mother board & memory companies to get you to by faster memory.

Your memory has as base default speed that is at 2133. You are really OC the memory to 2400 or 2666 or even 3000. It is just like the CPU that you have one that runs at 3.8 and turbo boost to 4.2. This is just me it is all just fake # that make you fell wow my memory & CPU are running faster but is it really.

Title: Re: GA-Z170N-Gaming 5 No post No beeps.
Post by: JD on April 23, 2016, 05:58:56 pm
I wonder why I was able to install windows 10 ok, and it ran ok for a while. I have rang my supplier and explained, they think it might be the board so have said to send it back, so when I get a new board I will try it and see what happens, if it doesn't work I will try the slower ram and see.
Title: Re: GA-Z170N-Gaming 5 No post No beeps.
Post by: JD on April 25, 2016, 10:34:03 am
The common factor for both of you here is the 2400Mhz memory. 

Corsair QVL states compatibility with Z170 Force and SOC only
http://www.corsair.com/~/media/corsair/download-files/manuals/dram/ddr4-compatibility.pdf

Gigabyte QVL
http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_ga-z170n-gaming5.pdf

All 2400Mhz memory listed as compatible is xxX4M4A2xxx

You are trying to use
CMK16GX4M2A2400C14R

Yea this is the ram I was using (CMK16GX4M2A2400C14R), this could be the problem, will see what the vendor says when they test the board.
Title: Re: GA-Z170N-Gaming 5 No post No beeps.
Post by: JD on April 28, 2016, 06:04:21 pm
vendor has got back to me and said the motherboard is working OK, i have sent the 2400mhz ram back and am looking for a more suitable 2133mhz ram, anyone got any suggestions as to what kind will suit the 170n gaming 5 with an i7 6700k best.
Title: Re: GA-Z170N-Gaming 5 No post No beeps.
Post by: ElectroStingz on April 28, 2016, 08:44:03 pm
Some of the DDR4 kits default to 2400Mhz or run 2133Mhz at very low timings (CL13, CL14) which can lead to problems so I would recommend any kit that can do 2133Mhz at JEDEC timings of 15-15-15-36.

http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/vengeance-lpx-32gb-2x16gb-ddr4-dram-3200mhz-c16-memory-kit-black-cmk32gx4m2b3200c16

It's 3200Mhz if you run the XMP setting and 2133Mhz 15-15-15-36 default.
I use 4x8GB of this one without issues.
Title: Re: GA-Z170N-Gaming 5 No post No beeps.
Post by: JD on April 29, 2016, 08:36:12 pm
Some of the DDR4 kits default to 2400Mhz or run 2133Mhz at very low timings (CL13, CL14) which can lead to problems so I would recommend any kit that can do 2133Mhz at JEDEC timings of 15-15-15-36.

http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/vengeance-lpx-32gb-2x16gb-ddr4-dram-3200mhz-c16-memory-kit-black-cmk32gx4m2b3200c16

It's 3200Mhz if you run the XMP setting and 2133Mhz 15-15-15-36 default.
I use 4x8GB of this one without issues.

I would like to get something like this, but am not sure if it will run because of the speed, seems there is a common problem with ram over 2133mhz , and is a bit expensive, to be honest am not that sure what am looking for when it comes to picking the correct ram for a particular motherboard, other than the obvious ddr4/3/2/1 speed and CAS, am even more confused now because a lot of the ram listed on the QVL is 4 sticks of ram and my board is an ITX board (Z170N-gaming-5) and can only take dual ram.

I have been looking at this ram because of the speed,
http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/vengeance-lpx-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-dram-2133mhz-c13-memory-kit-red-cmk16gx4m2a2133c13r

or

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0196QNBU4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1V6Z2X9I7KSQG

But its still not listed on the QVL because its dual and not quad.????
Any help would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: GA-Z170N-Gaming 5 No post No beeps.
Post by: JD on May 04, 2016, 09:01:30 pm
Quick update, motherboard now back and have fitted 2x8gb of vengeance lpx 2133mhz and still not posting to bios, but now sometimes the psu fan will run flat out and I have to do I hard rest to turn it of, but still not posting to bios. Up until now both sets of ram haven't been on the QVL because I can't get it in dual only quad, the only difference is 1 number (xxxx4M4xxxxx, xxxx4M2xxxxx), so now have ordered more ram, vengeance lpx at 3000mhz because it's on the QVL. So it's arriving tomorrow and I will give it a try if it doesn't work It has to be the cpu, I just can't understand when I was able to get windows installed and up and running for a while before this happened.
Title: Re: GA-Z170N-Gaming 5 No post No beeps.
Post by: JD on May 05, 2016, 12:45:38 pm
Just tried the ram and still not booting, when switched on it now runs the fan flat out on the psu and won't turn itself off, I have to do a hard rest, if I now remove the ram there are no beeps, is it okay to run through cpu with no cooler on it for 5/10 min,  and would it be okay to power up (switch on) the motherboard without the cpu in, am starting to think it might be the cpu that's at fault, I have done all the usual things like reseting the cmos with the battery pulled
Title: Re: GA-Z170N-Gaming 5 No post No beeps.
Post by: JD on May 16, 2016, 01:10:24 pm
well it seems i have got to the bottom of the problem, CPU had failed (i7 6700k), thought it a bit strange that it all booted up first time and then went into bootloop, but didn't think it would have been the CPU, so i new one is on the way and hopefully i will all work this time
Title: Re: GA-Z170N-Gaming 5 No post No beeps.
Post by: ElectroStingz on May 16, 2016, 02:15:30 pm
For your previous question about running the CPU without a cooler, no it is not OK. This will cause the CPU to shutdown almost instantly and any further power on attempts in this state can damage the CPU.

Yes you can power the motherboard without the CPU installed.
Title: Re: GA-Z170N-Gaming 5 No post No beeps.
Post by: JD on May 17, 2016, 09:24:26 am
For your previous question about running the CPU without a cooler, no it is not OK. This will cause the CPU to shutdown almost instantly and any further power on attempts in this state can damage the CPU.

Yes you can power the motherboard without the CPU installed.
Ok thanks for the info, I was just thinking because it wasn't posting that it might be Ok without a cooler to try once, good to know for the future.
Title: Re: GA-Z170N-Gaming 5 No post No beeps.
Post by: JD on May 20, 2016, 04:50:34 pm
OK, just to finish off, problem now sorted, new cpu arrive 2 days ago and tried it in but still the same, would power on but still not posting and psu fan was running flat out, so, tried another psu from one my other computers and this wouldnt even power up the motherboard, not even bring on the red light, this psu like the old one had a 4 pin cpu plug for the motherboard, the motherboard has a 8 pin cpu plug but the old psu ran it ok for a while, anyway then suspected the psu (not much left really) and ordered a corsair SF 450 and fitted, now working ok and am now writing this on said computer.

So i think the psu failed when my computer went off the first time and took the cpu with it, so will have to send it back.

I am now running the following and all is compatible and working 100%;
Z170n Gaming 5 motherboard,
i7 6700k cpu,
corsair Vengenance LPX DDR4 2133Mhz (CMK16GX4M2A2133C13),
corsair H75 water cooler,
corsair SF 450 psu,
samsung 850 EVO ssd M2.

Hope this will help someone in the future,
Thanks to everyone for their input and help