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Questions about GIGABYTE products => Motherboards with AMD processors => Topic started by: dvs91856 on July 15, 2010, 02:12:59 pm
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First off, I appreciate any assistance in getting my problems solved, but to let you know, I am not totally savvy on rebuilding issues. I have learned by reading and doing. So be patient with me if you can!
I've upgraded my system with the following: MA785GM-US2H, AMDII X3 435 and Biostar HD5450 and Patriot Gseries DDR2 4GB (2 x 2GB) PC2-8500 1066MHz.
The problem I am having is the system boots up to the point that it states: Disk Boot Failure insert system disk (Mobo disk). I proceed to put the disk in, it goes to a screen that states Xpress2 Recovery press enter. I then press enter, it then shows the Xpress2 Recovery screen which asks "Backup" or "Reboot." I choose Reboot and then it boots up okay and is usable. However, once it does boot up a box comes up and states You have the latest version (press okay) and the box goes away (annoying?). Oh, I accidently pressed Backup on one boot and it stated, I didn't have enough room on my HDD (200GB with 134GB Free).
I believe everything has been updated (not totally sure). How do I get this PC to just boot up correctly. Bios is set to read Floppy, CD/DVD then HDD? Also I need to know how to make a boot disk after I get everything set up correctly. Thanks in advance for your assistance.
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Hi,
The best way to get the system to boot properly would probably be to set the 1st boot device to HDD, 2nd to CD/DVD
If you are not using a floppy drive at you should disable this. If you are running a floppy drive do not set it as a boot up device.
ATB
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I had it set that way the first time and because of this issue, I changed the order. I do use the Floppy on rare occasions. Any other way to fix this prob?
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You might want to think about re-installing your OS as you may have corrupted the install.
Which OS are you using?
Have you had the system running OK (without Boot Failure) since you built it?
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OS is XP Pro. After installing the Mobo and other items (as listed previously), the system booted up but wanted the Mobo disk each time (still does). XP was validated 2 times during installation, as well as, MS Office 2007.
The main screen came up and looked exactly the same prior to upgrading, which I thought was a bit strange since I figured I would have to do a reinstall of OS etc. There is one other small issue that I had prior to having to upgrade system, the KB979906 would not and still won't update in the system, but I don't think that is causing the specific issue at hand, not sure. I am using my old HDD, of course, this Mobo only has one IDE to attach my HDD and DVD. I do have another HDD that was/is still in the unit, but I don't have the adapter to attach to the SATA (I have to buy one eventually or an external case) to utilize.
I am hoping I don't have to reinstall OS from fresh, since I have programs that won't be able to come back, as well as, files, folders etc. I am not savvy on how to get all of it back. I do have the Apricorn's DriveWire Universal Hard Drive Adapter which came with Cloining software, but I don't feel I am savvy enough to use it. (Shouldn't this software mirror everything somehow?) Sorry, I only know enough to be dangerous...LOL!
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So basically you are saying that you installed a load of new hardware but are trying to use your original hard drive and the original Windows setup on it? Is that correct?
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Yes, just installed new items, set Bios etc. This is what I am using right now to do research on this/these issues. Strange to say but my sys is working with the exception of booting up?
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I am afraid that when you change hardware you also have to change your Windows installation. Otherwise the old setup will be looking for the orignal hardwae to load the drivers etc for.
Format your drive and re-install Windows and everything should be fine wioth the world again! BTW you didn't post another thread like this aready did you?
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So, I have to reinstall Windows XP etc. UGH, I need to figure out how to keep everything "AS IS" on my desktop so I don't lose my stuff (i.e. programs, files, pics etc.).
Is the Apricorn Cloning software able to clone EVERYTHING or just certain stuff when you do a full reinstall? I am trying to learn as fast as I can on this stuff.
Can you MIRROR to the exact stuff with some type of software as well?
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I have no knowledge of Apricorn but as it's a cloning software it wouldn't be any goood anyway because it makes an exact mirror image of your drive and that is waht you are trying to clear. You will just have to backup your personal files and anything else you need and then format the drive. You can copy your files etc to cd or another medium.
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Dark Mantis is correct. Cloning Software will create a disk image but will not help you much.
You will not be able to keep your original programmes, as they are. You will have to do a clean install of the OS first and then re-install all of your other software.
And, before you do any of that you will have to back-up everything that you want to keep.
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Oh I was afraid of that! I guess I was hoping it would be fine without doing complete reinstall and having to lose my programs that were dowloaded from freeware. I guess I was trying to cheat the system..LOL! Thanks so very much to each of you, for your diligent replies to my dilemma!
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There is no reason that you can't use your freeware programs again. Just make a note of them all and download them again when you have re-installed Windows.
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No worries,
Unfortunately there is never an easy route when changing/upgrading your PC and, in the longer term, it is always best to start over with a clean install of the OS and latest drivers.
It is also good practice, to make regular back-ups of your files, pictures, music etc., so that when the time comes for major changes, the restore process can be relatively simple.
Good luck and I hope that you can download everything you need, without too many issues.
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Thanks! Will get started soon on full reinstall.
A quick question if I may once again call upon anyone? Since I am going to have to redo OS, should I just go ahead and buy Windows 7 Professional or Ultimate (32 bit)? They say either one of those will allow you to download Virtual PC, but does one really need that or not? Also does my motherboard as listed above have TPM built in to utilize BitLocker if I buy the Ultimate version? I am perplexed as to whether go full speed ahead Win7 or just stay with XP Pro (since I own it). Just wanting to know in your opinion what you would do in my situation. Thanks!
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Hi,
If you are asking for a recommendation then I would say go for Windows 7 as it is pretty impressive. I would actually go for the 64 bit version as it will allow you to access all of your memory and also allow for future memory expansion.
I am running the Ultimate version, because I need the Japanese Language interface but, to be honest, I don't believe it is actually worth the extra cost. I do not use Bit Locker and for general home use, I don't see why anybody would, it is more for business users really.
I too considered the Virtual XP side of things, before buying Windows 7 but again, I have not really found a need to use it, as all of my software and nearly all of my hardware runs in 7 without any problems.
If you can afford it, then I would say go for Windows 7.
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I would also agree with absic and install Windows 7 64bit Home Premium Edition. It works as well as XP from the end user point of view and is very smooth. I haven't had any problems with it running any of my existing programs and to be honest it is a joy to use compared to Vista.
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This is odd to me. Last night I backup all my info on my HDD and was getting ready to fully reinstall my OS (XP Pro) and I made sure the PC would be booting from my CD/DVD first and my settings were done and then the system rebooted to my desktop without needing me to put my Mobo disk in like it had before! I was very surprised that it did this. So I rebooted just to see how it would boot up and it went straight to my desktop once again without wanting me to put the Mobo CD in to boot? I think I am just going to leave my sys alone for now and see how it does for the next few days/weeks, since I have all my data backed up, I figure if something goes wrong, I will then reinstall my OS.
Does this make the PC unstable and should I really worry at this point about doing the OS right now? Thanks!
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No I think a quick prayer of thanks would be appropriate right now. Whatever happened in the BIOS, it got things going again smoothly, so great. There is no reason that it should do any harm to your machine now. Although at some point in the future you will have to do a reinstall of Windows.
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Hey, you might be lucky.
If the PC is running OK now, then Windows might have sorted itself out and installed the drivers that you need for your new configuration. I'm a great believer in: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" so if you are happy and, the PC seems to be happy, then leave it alone.
You might find that you get odd glitches or even major problems in the future, which would indicate a need to do a clean install but I would cross that bridge if or when you come to it.
ATB
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Thanks for your encouragement! I think the same way, if it isn't broke, leave well enough alone! I know I will have to do a reinstall eventually, but for now, my brain is so sick of thinking about this PC! If I was a novice I would hesitate, but I am not!
I still have a problem with trying to get the KB97906 update. I am worried this will keep other updates from getting in? Any thoughts as to getting this update in without to much problem? Or should I even worry at this point about that one update?
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Hi,
The windows update is, I think, a security update for net framework 1.1. As with all Micros**t stuff they are continually patching them. Again, in my opinion, it isn't worth worrying about. if you are worried about other updates, just remove this one from the download list and the others will come through OK.
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Hi, just an update on this.
After receiving a couple of PM's from dvs91856 we made contact via IM as the problems seemed, to my mind, relatively simple to resolve but things were being lost through the medium of text, wait for response, text etc.
This is not the way I would usually do things and I apologise for taking this step but, in an effort to get dvs91856's PC running (they had been struggling for over 2 weeks to get it working) I thought this was the best way.
The PC is now running properly and the problems mainly came down to some basic BIOS settings and configuration.
We re-set BIOS to Optimized Defaults and then re-set the SATA channel (dvs91856 switched components to a new SATA HDD and DVD drive) to Native IDE as with the set-up and proposed use of this PC AHCI was not required. There was also a mistake in adding a jumper to the SATA HDD which limited it to SATA 1.5Gbs which had to be resolved. (I think DM got a PM about this as well). The only problem with installing in AHCI mode was due to the necessary driver not being installed which, of course, led to the system not responding properly.
We disabled on-board Graphics as there is an ATI 5xxx Graphics card installed.
We changed the BOOT order so that DVD/CD drive was the 1st Device and HDD was 2nd device. This was changed back to make the HDD 1st BOOT Device after the OS was installed.
We also disabled the Floppy drive.
After making these changes and saving them to BIOS, dvs91856 loaded Windows XP, the motherboard and graphics drivers without an issue and the PC was booting to the windows desktop in around 30 seconds once we had done this.
Once again my apologies to other members of the forum for taking this on via IM but I hope you will understand and I also hope that this update helps with any other user facing similar problems.
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Well sorted absic and like you I always try to resolve the issue on the forum but as you said, quite rightly sometimes it just doesn't seem to work out and I think you made the right call here as the results show. 8)
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I too apologize for privately asking for help outside the board, but please know, I was desperate to get help with my PC problem!
At this time, I want to commend and applaud absic115 for his due diligence, patience and superb excellent technical skills and knowledge in getting my desktop up and running smoothly! Without assistance, I would still be [after 2 wks] banging my head against the wall and losing sleep! I am resting easy once again thanks to absic115. I can't say enough how thankful I am and how impressed I am with absic115.
Absic115, superbly done!! :)
Also, a thanks goes out to Dark Mantis for the jumper issue.