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Title: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: ezehiel on August 06, 2010, 09:36:08 pm
I have:
ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1
core i7 930
OCZ Reaper HPC 3x2GB, 1600MHz DDR3, CL(6-8-6-24), Heatspreader  [OCZ3RPR1600C6LV6GK]
powercolor eyefinity radeon 5870 2 gb
bequiet 650 W straightpower

I mounted everything, start up and then problems occurred.
first monitor won't start is always on standby. on the motherboard it is C1 post and halts on it.
I try another graphic card (nvidia 9600GT)  nothing changing.
from my friend I have  different  RAM corsair 1333 MHZ when I put them the build starts booting and showing post FF but still the monitor won't start no mater what graphic card I put to the build.

can some body have this problem??
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 06, 2010, 09:49:49 pm
Have you connected the power cables to the graphics card? Is it in the right slot eg PCIe16X? Is the monitor connected to the right output? Obviously you also have a problem with the memory but that can be sorted out afterwards. Did you check the lists to make sure it was compatible?
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: Peteruk on August 06, 2010, 09:58:33 pm
RAM in the white slots?

Try clearing the CMOS.
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: ezehiel on August 07, 2010, 09:15:27 am
every thing is connected properly RAM was checked in many slots white or blue, power cables are connected to the graphic card and the motherboard. everything I checked 3 times, monitor is working fine and is plugged correctly to the graphic card.
I Thing this is problem with motherboard. I returned it to service. I will check it when it come back.
thanks for effort. 
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 07, 2010, 09:17:59 am
Thanks for the update and we will look forward to hearing if there was indeed any fault on the board.
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: ezehiel on August 12, 2010, 07:50:38 pm
when my Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio is plugged to the PCI slot the C1 is displayed.
motherboard is good
now I'm in testing process (windows other software and hardware., drivers)
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: ezehiel on August 13, 2010, 02:32:02 pm
my PSU beeps
when I install windows and drivers (motherboard and GPU) the power supply start to beeps constantly.
when I use everest ultimate he shows:
12v+ : 12,68v
this is in idle mode
when I run a stress benchmark on graphic card it stops beeping and the everest shows:
12v+ : 12,49v

any ideas??
do my PSU is to week for this kind of build:

ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1
core i7 930 not OC
OCZ Reaper HPC 3x2GB, 1600MHz DDR3, CL(6-8-6-24), Heatspreader  [OCZ3RPR1600C6LV6GK]
powercolor eyefinity radeon 5870 2 gb
bequiet 650 W straightpower
2 sata DISKS (500 and 1000 GB seagate)
1 DVDRW
Arctic Cooling Freezer Xtreme rev.2 1366 Ready fan non led 120mm
fan control
FANS:
2x 90 one led
2x 120 leds

???  :(
 
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 13, 2010, 03:41:48 pm
Well I have just been on the Bequiet 650 W straightpower website and used their PSU calculator and after entering all your components it came up with a minimum 750W. I must admit to being shocked by this, I would have thought that 650W would have been plenty but they should know their products. So if you want to go with that and try a bigger PSU it might fix the problem.

If not follow my next advice.

Right the only way to get to the bottom of this is to go back to the beginning. Take everything out of the case and lay the motherboard on a towel or similar that is not static producing. Attach just the CPU/heatsink/fan,buzzer and PSU to the motherboard and then try POSTing and see what beeps you get.
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: ezehiel on August 23, 2010, 02:19:19 pm
now i have corsair 1200 W  :D
but my motherboard under a full load ( two benchmarks running  prime 95 and furmark) is making noises like transistors on her was playing.
this happening when the RAM are set in bios to 1600 mhz
when they are on auto and they work with 1066 mhz the noises are gone. 
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 23, 2010, 02:32:41 pm
I am happy for you that it is all working now but what to do about the noise? You may find a BIOS update will help or try disabling the C1, C3 etc power saving settings in the BIOS. Also maybe EIST. ;)
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: ezehiel on August 30, 2010, 07:56:52 pm
my motherboard is in servis
so is the PSU the 1200 W corsair
that is happening with the electronic devices??
everything is humming, whistle or buzzing...
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 30, 2010, 08:25:16 pm
Are you sure it was a computer you bought not a synthesiser?
It sounds a lot like the big problem with the UD3R motherboard with all the noises etc. Just look for the longest running thread on the forum and that is it.
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: F5BJR on August 30, 2010, 10:02:05 pm
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I have this motherboard without this problem ..

What is your chipset temperature?

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Pierre
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: ezehiel on September 02, 2010, 02:48:20 pm
I don't have the board
do you think I remember the temperatures
read the post...
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: Dark Mantis on September 02, 2010, 02:53:27 pm
I can understand your lack of humour, ezehiel, but I don't think that it is polite to take it out on  another member who is trying to help you. ;)
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: ezehiel on September 10, 2010, 09:19:59 pm
new motherboard in my hands. when I buy bequiet 1200 W i will test it and see if it's working.
it will be soon after weekend.
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: Dark Mantis on September 10, 2010, 09:33:01 pm
Well we will keep our fingers crossed for you and please let us know what happens. It might be just as well to build it all on the bench first. Quick and easy with no worry of shorts.
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: ezehiel on September 30, 2010, 11:22:20 am
ok the new motherboard (i think it's new because it back from service from gigabyte with the note that is repaired) is in test on my desk from  ~2 weeks. motherboard seems to be ok. I have new PSU, bequiet p8 1000 W.
but my graphic card now making the sounds when she is under load. and in games there can see a little lags. it's very strange because there is no FPS drop just lags.
I'm in the middle of testing the graphic cards the :
palit 5870 eyefinity
and gtx 260
I will soon have a  comparison if the graphic cards behaviour are the same. if not that means that my palit is broken. when they will work the same way I don't know what will I do.
It could be a motherboard or something else.

I wonder if there is any problem with the voltages on the motherboard. with the PCIE or something.

And my motherboard temperatures are from ~60 to ~80. now is mostly 60 because I have a fan over the chipset.

Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: Dark Mantis on September 30, 2010, 11:26:35 am
Your problem could well be latency. Download and run dpclatency checker and see what sort of reading s you get. If there are any red bars then you have a latency problem and will need to find the cause of it.

http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: ezehiel on October 01, 2010, 08:57:50 am
I was unable to run this program yet, because I wasn't home from 2 days. but I wonder if this program tests just LAN cards??
becouse I don't have problems with the network, I don't play online games. I have this lags in games in single player. this can be called graphic lags.

both games are original:
In GTA 4 when I fly a helicopter the city under me, don't slide smooth. It jumps it looks like lags but I'm not online.
when I play fallout 3 and in first missions (single player to) and I walked hallways i can see the micro lags. the hallways didn't slide smooth.
In fallout this lags don't bother me so much, but in the gta 4 they don't look nice and it's frustrating during playing. 
other games I didn't heck.
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 01, 2010, 09:03:13 am
No it is not just for the LAN connection, it is for the whole system.
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: ezehiel on October 15, 2010, 02:27:48 pm
OK now in this time, another (second) motherboard is in service.
I tested everything, Games and system other graphics etcetera always running witch dpclatency checker.
and what I found??
No matter if  on the motherboard was a radeon 5870 eyefinity or gtx 260 (or both)
And the same is for the disk i have systems on two disk older one seagate and new WD SATA3 640 GB
about system (windows 7) when I working on it (running applications, copy some files, firefox, total commander,) i have dpclatency checker showing me the red column out of scale (above 16000 U or some thing like that),
when I played games (gta 4, fallout 3) the red column where in half of scale ~~4000 U.

I want to say that I installed the newest drivers for the motherboard and new F6 BIOS. This nothing change.
I'm very disappointed in this motherboard and in Gigabyte...

I know that this motherboard will be "repaired". when it will be back to me, I run the tests again ;/ 3rd time.
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 15, 2010, 02:35:19 pm
The thing is there are many different possible causes of latency on your system and most systems are different. It can be hardware or software caused and trying to pin down the problematic piece is not always easy. The best way is to litterally go through the system bit by bit. Start by disabling all unecessary devices in Device Manager and then go into Task Manager and turn off  everything that isn't needed to run windows. Then you can start testing and turn on one thing at a time and test all the while.
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: ezehiel on October 15, 2010, 02:46:37 pm
sorry but I don't have time for that kind of stuff and I think that the motherboard is broken, the software or hardware on her. So i returned it to service.
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 15, 2010, 02:48:26 pm
OK well please let us know how you get on with the new one when you get it.
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: ezehiel on November 08, 2010, 01:56:09 pm
I have the motherboard. still the same. service told that it is working properly. but I still have the lags and drop downs and I don't know what to do next.

yesterday i was sitting and benchmarking every element of the computer.
burn in test and everest ultimate.

when I do the tests of LAN, AUDIO, CPU, GPU, RAM it show lags (16000)
without CPU and RAM its fine nothing happens. So I start to benchmark only cpu and RAM, both and separately.
I always run dpclatency checker and observe it when the drop outs was.

I know because I found it on the net that the dpclatency checker is used to check latency and drop-outs after overclocking but my CPU are not over clocked just RAM is, but it should work fine because the default values are:
1600 Mhz and CL 6-8-6-24 (CAS-TRCD-TRP-TRAS)  at 1,65 V.
all the values are set in BIOS on manual. (just the V 1,65 are 1,60 because there is 2 sets 1,60 and 1,80 so I set smaller one)

I observe the biggest drops when I run tests form everest like:

CPU Zlib, julia, mandel, sinjulia. when I run them the cpu usage was 99, 100 %, and my logitech g15 lcd freezes and i can't change the view. the other programs freezes to. and I have impression that this benchmarks last longer that they should.

can any body have some IDEAS??

My next step will be installing other systems like other windows XP and 7

oh and I forgot to mention that I turn off in BIOS the turbo boost technology. for second i have  feeling that this worked in the CPU Zlib but it was a mistake because the red bars in dpclatency checker just don't go. they just look different (1 yellow and 2 red one bigger from other).

link to burn in test that I used:

http://www.passmark.com/download/bit_download.htm

Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: F5BJR on November 08, 2010, 04:09:45 pm
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Look with DPCLAT for latency

I have found problem with my GA-X58A-UD5 and JMicron drivers  --> good values are some 20 to  30 µs

For JMicron drivers problem is with IDE driver ( look if use JMide.inf and not JRaid.inf )

With JRaid.inf i have > 1000 µS bad , bad , bad

Pierre

Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: ezehiel on November 09, 2010, 11:58:04 am
Just what I thought.
it doesn't work. I have problem with the processor / RAM not with the disks.

this a screen after few minutes of playing or just doing something in the system (like showing task manager):

(http://strony.aster.pl/ezehielonline/test.png)

any more ideas??
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: Dark Mantis on November 09, 2010, 12:15:41 pm
Have you tried disabling all the hardware that you can and then checking as you reinstate it? eg LAN, USB, Sound devices etc.
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: ezehiel on November 10, 2010, 07:40:31 am
Yes I tried. I think this is not the problem witch lan usb sata, it's problem witch Motherboard, RAM, CPU.
I already wrote that this drop-outs occur when I run the CPU tests / benchmarks...
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: Dark Mantis on November 10, 2010, 11:16:55 am
I see what you mean but I don't understand how it would work like that. The processor and memory are just hardware that is used to process and relay the information, I can't see how they would force a latency problem. :-\
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: ezehiel on November 22, 2010, 09:23:30 am
Yes I know. And I don't understand too. But I think something is not right with the processor, ram or operating system, drivers.
I will see, when I've some time and install different system, drivers. Yesterday I run prime95 and on the beginning the drop outs was above  25000. And one 2 red stripes in the beginning of the test.
When I have something new I will write about it.
Have a nice week.
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: Dark Mantis on November 22, 2010, 09:35:46 am
Ideally it would be good if you could start off with a fresh install of the OS and then see what happened as you installed one thing at a time and tested constantly.
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: ezehiel on November 23, 2010, 09:35:08 am
Ideally it would be good if you could start off with a fresh install of the OS and then see what happened as you installed one thing at a time and tested constantly.

yes I know :)
i think the same way.
but I must have time for the installation.
Title: Re: ga-x58a-ud5 rev 1 error
Post by: Dark Mantis on November 23, 2010, 11:09:31 am
Well at least we are in agreement on the best way to move forward ;) Just let us know when you have the time to start it please.