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Questions about GIGABYTE products => Motherboards with AMD processors => Topic started by: The Greek on August 31, 2010, 02:32:07 pm
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Hi,
I recently build a pc with the following parts
cpu : AMD 955 3.2ghz
mobo : GA-880GMA-UD2H
gpu : XFX 5770
ram : GEIL VALUE 2x2gb CL9-9-9-24 10660 / 1333
stock clocks, stock fans and 450W power
My problem is that the system freezes after a while in gaming, i get some random BSOD and i fail Prime95 blens, OCCT Linpack and AMD overdrive calculation test in les than 2 minutes. Memtest and memory test from windows didnt indicate any issue with the RAM and the small FFTs from Prime95 and amd cpu and fpu look fine.
Should i think there is a compatibility problem or that there is some issue with the mobo? My othere problem is that i dont have an extra stick of ram that i know works with this motherboard so i can do some trial and error.
Tell me your thoughts please and make it a bit simple because i am no expert ,
and if you can tell me which RAM is deffinately compatible so i can go for it.
Thank you very much!
PS: BIOS on motherboard is F2 but i flashed F4A which is the newest without any luck.
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Hi there,
from your system specs I would suspect that your problem is with the PSU and I suspect it is a little on the underpowered size for your Motherboard and Graphics card. You don't say what make it is but this is the first place I would be looking if it was my system.
Also the Gigabyte manual recommends a PSU of at least 500 Watts for the motherboard.
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Thanks for the response,
It is WIN POWER 450W (http://www.power-win.com/en/p/43-switching_power_supply.html maybe). I tried to test the system without the graphics card (so i guess less stress on the psu) but no change. How can i test the psu? the thing is that i dont have any tools for that. Although from OCCT tests you get digramms with volts for all 3.3 5 and 12.
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To be honest testing the PSU isn't going to help too much.
With your system I would recommend a PSU of at least 650 Watts. The only way of being certain if it is a PSU problem is to try and get hold of a more powerful one to try in your system.
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How to jump start a PSU video http://www.corsair.com/cinema/movie.aspx?id=1358543
Although I would have to agree with absic on this matter, your's is much to underpowered even if it was new.
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Ok then link me a good and cheap solution to replace my psu then (and hopefully i am good enough to change it my own...).
Although i have to say that none of the requirements asked for more than 450W.
So you feel there shouldn't be a compatibility issue?
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I am afraid that there is a conflict in your statement. There is no such thing as a good and cheap PSU. You do get what you pay for.
Can you post the exact model of memory that you are using?
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I replace my ''good and cheap'' with ''good value'' but i think you got my point.
GV32GB1333C9S
2 x http://www.medwaycomputers.com/geil-2gb-ddr3-1333-cl9-value-oem-p-102168.html?zenid=gsstdraojr14eb0ik6psh3peb4
is the detailed info for the RAM
thank you very much for your time, much appreciated
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Just picked this info up from the XFX website for your Graphic Card:
450 Watt or greater power supply with one 75W 6-pin PCI Express® power connector recommended 600 Watt and two 6-pin connectors for ATI
So they recommend 600 Watt + PSU for this card!
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I agree with you absic but i have already contacted XFX and they told me that the 450W should be sufficient. But thats not my problem (or at least i think)
because i tried to run Prime95 blend with no video card and i got the same results. I think that indicates a different problem.
I will go for a bigger psu anyway now but i am worried that this won't solve my problem.
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Yes, I understand and whilst your memory is not on the QVL and it could be the cause of your problem I have often found that a lack of power in the system can also throw up the kind of issues that you are facing.
You say that you have 2 sticks of RAM.
Have you tried testing each one by itself?
Have you installed them into the DDR3_1 & DDR3_2 slots on the motherboard?
Have you disabled the on-board graphics? (As you are using a 5770 PCIE Card you do not need to use the on-board GPU)
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Testing the sticks one by one yes but not thoroughly. I deffinately have tested one and failed but didnt test the other one. Will do first thing when i go home. I have them in slots 1 and 2 or 3 and 4 which are same color. And no i havent disabled on board graphics (dont know how). Is this a BIOS setting?
I am getting close to getting a cup of tea and start swearing tbh....
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I know that feeling.
Do you know what the revision number is of your motherboard?
Disabling the on-board graphics is done from within BIOS. When you enter BIOS you need to go into the M.I.T. Section. There you will find a heading called IGX Configuration. You need to enter this sub heading and then change the Internal Graphics Mode from UMA to Disabled, this will turn off the internal graphics chip.
The RAM modules should ideally be in the first two blue slots on the motherboard. This will allow the memory to run in DUAL Channel Mode. When you test the RAM it is best if you run the tests using only the first blue slot.
Now, go and get that cup of tea, take a deep breath and remember: Never give up; Never surrender!
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check the 600w specs
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/power-supplies/mainstream-performance/ocz-stealthxstream-2-400w-600w-power-supply.html
is this good enough you think? I feel is the best i can do with the money i am willing to spend. Descent brand - descent specs?
i am going to return my RAM and get a better and deffinately compatible one. Any suggestions?
About the mobo, it is rev 2.0. I will disable the on board graphs ( is this going to save power?).
New cpu fan, new base fan, new power AND new RAM! i feel i am getting a second new pc in a weeks time...
where OH where is my mind/money?
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Hi there,
before you RMA anything it is worth while exploring the problems you have and try to resolve them without spending lots of money.
Whilst I do feel your PSU is a little weak there could be something else causing you grief.
As I said in my last post, disabling on the on-board graphics will help as this will result in less power being drawn by the motherboard. It could also be causing a conflict with your 5770 card so it is worth checking this out first.
BSOD's can be caused by many things and they are not always power or RAM related. If you could state what make and model your Hard drive(s) are, what DVD/CD drive you are using, what your OS is and also any other USB devices you have.
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Not forgetting keyboard and mouse ;)
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Omg... BSOD is like a black hole. Can be caused be absolutely everything?
HD is WD blue caviar 500gb and DVDRW is Optiarc (i guess the less expensive one), keyboard is an old microsoft one (http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/23-109-164-03.jpg)
and mouse Logitech MX400 Laser Mouse USB.
Were the keyboard and mouse supposed to be a joke? Anyway....
You know everything now.... I feel naked now (i am coooold)...
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No the mouse and keyboard were not a joke, I have re-built a complete PC only to find out that the mouse was the cause of the problem! That was one very expensive lesson. :'(
When you get back home and feel warm enough to attempt tackling your PC. Try what I suggested about disabling the on-board graphics. If we try things one at a time we might sort the problem out without RMA's or spending too much money! ;)
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I am always warm for this kind of stuff but i have already spend 5 days with no result. I am far from expert and self timing the ram and flashing new BIOS was a bit extreme for me. Easy things to do but if something goes wrong you have zero ideas what to do next.
When i updated my BIOS i was asked a question about the hd i think about SATA or different format. i got no idea because timer was 9 sec. I pressed yes (for reasons unknown) and i ended up with ''Error cannot load operating system''. I had to smoke 2 ciggarets before i tried again.... Good thing i had the old bios saved but this are the small things that can become big if you are no expert.
I am off for now. I ll go home, to disable the mobo graphs, unplug dvd rw and pray and test ram individually on slot 1.
I will come back with results but i dont feel confident...
Prime95 blend will be the test.
PS: I have also tested ram at 1066 with auto settings (8-8-8-20) with no results.
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When i updated my BIOS i was asked a question about the hd i think about SATA or different format. i got no idea because timer was 9 sec. I pressed yes (for reasons unknown) and i ended up with ''Error cannot load operating system''. I had to smoke 2 ciggarets before i tried again.... Good thing i had the old bios saved but this are the small things that can become big if you are no expert.
OK now that is an important piece of information.
If you are running your Hard drives in AHCI Mode that could be the cause of your BSOD's. I have had exactly the same issues with my western digital drives and have to run the SATA controllers in Native IDE mode. It will be worth checking how the SATA controllers are set in BIOS. If they are running in AHCI mode it would be better to switch them to Native IDE but it will probably require you to reinstall the OS.
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Job done (hopefully)
I checked the one stick of ram and it performed good while the other failed immediately all tests. Will be returning it asap!
Special thanks to absic115 for all the care and support!!!!
The thread can be considered closed, at least for now... heheh!
Cheers! Awesome support in no time!
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Pleased to have been able to help and you know where we are if any further problems arise. :P