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Title: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: DAVEBARTON75 on October 09, 2010, 04:47:19 pm
Blue Screen - GT240 to blame?

Hi All,

Anyone come accross problems with the GT240 (1Gb DDR3)
Recently getting Stop 0x124 errors - completely shuts down.
Exact description and screen shot on> http://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-debugging/57916-stop-0x124-bsod-win7-pro-64bit.html
Whole PC is less than three months old.

Any Ieads??

Thanks


Running Win7 Prox64
Intel Core i5-650 3.20Ghz - #BX80616I5650
GA-P55-USB3 Bios - F12
Thermaltake Evo Blue 650W PSU  -  Mfr#:W0307
Gigabyte GeForce GT 240 600Mhz 1GB PCI-Express 2.0 HDMI -  Mfr#:GV-N240D3-1GI
Kingston HyperX 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 2000MHz -  Mfr#:KHX2000C9AD3T1K
SSD OCZ 60GB - Mfr#: OCZSSD2-1VTX60G
Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 09, 2010, 04:56:41 pm
Have you checked the four mounts are fully home on your cooler if you are using the stock item?
Try using a different set of drivers for the GPU.
Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: DAVEBARTON75 on October 09, 2010, 05:15:32 pm
Thanks Dark Mantis  for the speedy reply :)

Just updated the driver to 8.17.12.5896 having rolled it back to 8.17.11.9745
Checked the card and fan mounting - all seems fine there.
Guess i will know in the next couple of days..... ;D
Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 09, 2010, 05:19:30 pm
Well keep in touch and let us know how it pans out.  ;)
Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: DAVEBARTON75 on October 09, 2010, 05:51:26 pm
okay...now its getting more frequent.....moments ago blue screen again.

Removed the card, checked the fan (again) replaced and then nothing. No display output to my monitor via HDMI. Having to use VGA connection.
This is getting more worrying....should i be pushing for a replacement card?

Dave
Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 09, 2010, 05:56:40 pm
Can you try with a different card even if you have to borrow it just for testing, that would at least prove the problem?

BTW when I said check the mounts on the cooler I was talking about the CPU.
Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: DAVEBARTON75 on October 09, 2010, 06:02:19 pm
okay, will try and obtain a donor card....
I wasnt sure which fan you meant - but i was checking both anyways :)

I suppose i should hope it is the card ?  ?  (otherwise it could be a real needle in a haystack) !!

thanks again
Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 09, 2010, 06:03:19 pm
Post back when you have had a chance to try out the new card. ;)
Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: Ice Tea on October 10, 2010, 09:58:08 am
Have you changed any Bios settings ?
Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: DAVEBARTON75 on October 11, 2010, 05:47:24 pm
The only MB BIOS settings related to memory performance (Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)” to “Profile1”)

I still havent been able to borrow another card, but, interestingly i have been using it all yesterday and day without problems (impossible before)  by using the VGA connection not the HDMI one,do you guys think that this means the card itself is faulty??

thanks guys
Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 11, 2010, 06:15:13 pm
That of course is possible but it could just be a compatibility problem.
Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: DAVEBARTON75 on October 11, 2010, 08:33:56 pm
Okay, interesting, so if it is a  compatability issue, is there any resource on the web that would help advise me of a compatable HD card - sould i need to replace?
....and i guess to replace with the same card would be / could be somewhat foolish (?)

Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 11, 2010, 09:27:39 pm
At the moment I always recommmend the ATI cards as they seem to be more stable and cooler when performing. The drivers are better written and produce less problems.
Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: DAVEBARTON75 on October 12, 2010, 01:51:39 pm
Hey Dark Mantis,
Based on your help i have been able to obtain a refund on the GT240 card and i will now but an ATI one........
(just have to decide on one now)!!

thanks very much :)
Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 12, 2010, 02:35:53 pm
Obviously it depends o two main things:
1) Your budget
2) Your requirements

I don't know how much you have to spend on one so  can't help there but if you are a gamer than you wil want the most powerful; card you can afford. If you can stretch to it the 5870 or 5850 are both excellent cards and both are 256 bit which give ample bandwidth. Anything below them like the 5830 or lower is only 128 bit so there would be a noticable difference.
Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: DAVEBARTON75 on October 13, 2010, 02:12:32 pm
Hi DM,

This is at my budget;

http://www.dabs.com/products/xfx-ati-radeon-5850-hd-725mhz-1gb-ddr5-pci-e-hdmi-avp-750X.html?refs=441990000[/color]

if you have chance could you give me your opinion??

Thanks

Dave
Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 13, 2010, 02:28:50 pm
Hi Dave
Yes looks like a good card and free game ;) Bang for buck I think this is about the sweetpoint. It is 256 bit with 1 GB of memory and yet doesn't cost the earth. I really don't know what the XFX cards compare like to other makes but there won't be much difference. I always buy Sapphire because I like their VaporX cards which are very quiet. I would say try EBuyer though because they are usually very good on price and returns should you need to.
Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: DAVEBARTON75 on October 13, 2010, 02:40:36 pm
ebuyer seems to have some good deals;

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/199655

an improvement??
Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 13, 2010, 02:45:59 pm
Personally I would say yes. Not that there is a lot to choose between the cards I am sure but Spphire is owned by ATI and so I always feel like they shouldbe able to get it right and they are good with keeping the drivers sorted. Alos if you can wait for a couple of days you even get free delivery from EBuyer. ;D
Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: DAVEBARTON75 on October 13, 2010, 02:57:47 pm
superb, thanks for all you help - much appreciated!!

Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 13, 2010, 03:17:42 pm
You are welcome Dave and let us know how you get on with your new card when you have installed it. ;)
Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: Badbonji on October 14, 2010, 11:10:14 pm
Nvidia and ATI have both had their fair share of bad drivers. Generally this is worse when new cards are released.

How do you know it is a GPU problem anyway? Have you properly cleaned out drivers and reinstalled the latest ones/older ones?

You should also run Prime95 and monitor temperatures to ensure that the memory and CPU are both stable to rule them out, as that error is relating to a general hardware failure.

Also I found a HD5850 for a little cheaper with a free game:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-148-XF&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=411

Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: DAVEBARTON75 on October 19, 2010, 08:01:35 am
Hi Badbonji,
Thanks for the response...

I had done some troubleshooting in terms of updating and rolling back drivers for the graphics card with no success. The reason i assumed i could pinpoint the problem to the card is that i only get the stop errors when i am using the HDMI output. I can use the machine all day and using the VGA there are no issues. As soon as i plug the HD in it will fail when watching a film or surfing with any flash content.

As it is a new bulid pc i am a little reluctant to find a cure for what i consider to be a faulty part/compatability and spend alot of time, when the card is under warranty. I have returned the GT240 and have the Recommended one from Dark Mantis  on order.

cheers

dave
Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 19, 2010, 08:20:40 am
Please keep us informed of your progress with the new card, Dave. ;)
Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: DAVEBARTON75 on October 19, 2010, 07:44:31 pm
Hi DM,

Arrived home today to the HD5850 :)

All is installed fine, removed the NVIDIA components - so far so good!

One quick question - Will this card be taking more CPU performance as the Win Rating (which i know to take with a pinch of salt) has dropped quite a bit...or is there something else in the dreaded BIOS i need to search for?

thanks

Dave ???
Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 19, 2010, 07:52:01 pm
Dont take this as gospel but I am not aware of it using more CPU overhead. No doubt someone will know more about this and be happy to help. I suspect it is just a quirk of the WEI
Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: DAVEBARTON75 on October 20, 2010, 11:55:53 am
Its probably not a post for here, maybe i'll send it over to the intel forum and see if they are as efficient as you!

Thanks Again
Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 20, 2010, 12:13:04 pm
You're welcome and please let us know the answer if you find one. ;)
Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: Badbonji on October 20, 2010, 02:19:54 pm
Ignore the windows benchmarks... run vantage or something as they are better and more detailed benchmarks. The CPU test in windows 7/vista just measures the CPU performance, keeping your GPU at 0% load and it shouldn't even play a part in the score. When gaming the CPU might become a bottleneck for the more powerful card, but it shouldn't be a problem in your setup.

Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: DAVEBARTON75 on November 06, 2010, 06:37:51 am
Thanks for the posts guys,

after much searching and  posting on the intel forum, no-one has been able to tell me why my cpu lost Windows rating score with my new graphics card......a mystery it is!
Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: Dark Mantis on November 06, 2010, 08:21:28 am
Hi Dave
I am not suprised why don't you try the Micr$oft Forum? If anyone knows how WEI works it would be them ;D
Title: Re: GT240 - Blue Screen (is it to blame)?
Post by: absic on November 06, 2010, 08:27:06 am
I am not suprised why don't you try the Micr$oft Forum? If anyone knows how WEI works it would be them ;D

Nice one DM. This made me laugh so much I almost choked on my bacon butty!  :D :D :D