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Title: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: geekyadz on November 21, 2010, 11:32:04 pm
Hi there

Im thinking of upgrading my current processor (AMD Athlon X2 7750+ Black Edition) to an AMD Phenom II X4 970 Black Edition, but cannot find anywhere about your motherboards supporting this processor (including if I search for it on an AM3 socket board like GA-870A-UD3 (rev. 2.2))

I already know that I will have to update my BIOS (currently running version F5 on my board - see topic title for model) and cannot foresee any problems with doing that.
Title: Re: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: Dark Mantis on November 22, 2010, 06:19:57 am
I would imagine it it just a case of waiting for the new BIOS updates to be written and released. Have you checked in other places like the HQ site in Taiwan? When you do find one make sure that you run the update before removing your old chip.
Title: Re: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: geekyadz on November 22, 2010, 03:07:22 pm
Thats was my thinking too, or have they forgotten to add it to the list of supported processors for F9G (which is the current latest BIOS version for my board)? Unless AMD have only just released this processor then I dont see why it would not be showing on either all or most gigabyte boards.

If you mean www.gigabyte.tw/ I have just been there now (thanks to google translate) and the CPU support list is exactly the same as the ones for the .com site
Title: Re: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: absic on November 22, 2010, 03:10:10 pm
Hi there,

I don't know the answer but I have asked the question. When I have the answer I will post it here but it might take a couple of days so bear with me.
Title: Re: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: geekyadz on November 22, 2010, 06:03:50 pm
Hi there,

I don't know the answer but I have asked the question. When I have the answer I will post it here but it might take a couple of days so bear with me.
Hello.

Thankyou for doing that. At the moment Im currently toying with the idea of risking it by ordering one, updating the BIOS and when it arrives fit it.
Title: Re: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: fadsarmy on November 22, 2010, 06:23:43 pm
I'm runninig 970 with rev 1.0.
Title: Re: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: geekyadz on November 22, 2010, 07:30:02 pm
I'm runninig 970 with rev 1.0.
Cool! What BIOS version are you using?

EDIT: Hmm, actually, make your mind up: http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,3453.msg25647.html#msg25647 <-- that says youre running a Rev 2.0 of GA-MA770-UD3 and a 965 Phenom
Title: Re: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: geekyadz on November 22, 2010, 10:09:25 pm
I also asked about this on another forum. Found two board that support that CPU: GA-770TA-UD3 and GA-MA770T-UD3.

Interestingly, everything Im finding out about the processor says its 125W, yet the site where I would buy it from says its 140W  ???
Title: Re: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: fadsarmy on November 22, 2010, 10:34:21 pm
I also have a rev 1.0 of that board and a 970. Would you like to see the receipt? I also have a six core 1090T and Crosshair IV. Should I put everything I own on here?
Title: Re: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: geekyadz on November 23, 2010, 12:06:59 am
I also have a rev 1.0 of that board and a 970. Would you like to see the receipt?
No, but a screenshot of CPUid of the CPU and the main board tabs would be nice, please: http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

What I am interested in (for the second time) is what BIOS version you have but I want proof that it works in the board in this "rev 1.0" you "supposedly" have.

I also have a six core 1090T and Crosshair IV. Should I put everything I own on here?
I fail to see what part of this thread that relates to.

Sorry, but Im very wary of forum users that claim that they have this, that, and the other with no posts to support that claim.
Title: Re: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: fadsarmy on November 23, 2010, 02:34:56 am
If you can't take my word for it then that's up to you.
Title: Re: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: bytheway_r on November 23, 2010, 11:33:28 am
Oh, come on, you're behaving like little kids. For the record, I'd ask for a screenshot myself. Being a little more polite, though...

Frankly, I'd get an 965 BE or 1055T instead but if you don't want to overclock I guess it's a good option.
Title: Re: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: fadsarmy on November 23, 2010, 01:22:19 pm
I see this is normal cchaos

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=17848513
Title: Re: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: fadsarmy on November 23, 2010, 01:24:19 pm
I'm runninig 970 with rev 1.0.
Cool! What BIOS version are you using?

EDIT: Hmm, actually, make your mind up: http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,3453.msg25647.html#msg25647 <-- that says youre running a Rev 2.0 of GA-MA770-UD3 and a 965 Phenom

It relates to this. You're assuming I'm lying so should I list all my hardware?
Title: Re: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: absic on November 23, 2010, 01:35:43 pm
I'm runninig 970 with rev 1.0.
Cool! What BIOS version are you using?

EDIT: Hmm, actually, make your mind up: http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,3453.msg25647.html#msg25647 <-- that says youre running a Rev 2.0 of GA-MA770-UD3 and a 965 Phenom

It relates to this. You're assuming I'm lying so should I list all my hardware?

Probably cchaos does not think that you're lying just pointing out that you say you are running a 965 and wants some clarification. Investing in a 970 CPU only to discover that it won't run on the motherboard would be an expensive mistake to make.

Like you I have lots of different hardware that I mix and match, especially when I  am trying to troubleshoot for other users. I don't think anyone wants to see a list of all my hardware but they do like to see screenshots or have other "evidence" to validate what I am saying, when it is appropriate.

to cchaos:
I would also have to agree with this:
Frankly, I'd get an 965 BE or 1055T instead but if you don't want to overclock I guess it's a good option.
There really isn't a lot of headroom on the 970 when it comes to overclocking so unless you are planning on running it at stock you would be better off not hoping from too much more fom this CPU.
Title: Re: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: fadsarmy on November 23, 2010, 04:36:13 pm
My 970 is 125w which is compatoble. From the other forum it appears yours is 140w which may not be compatible.
Title: Re: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: geekyadz on November 23, 2010, 06:49:54 pm
Probably cchaos does not think that you're lying just pointing out that you say you are running a 965 and wants some clarification. Investing in a 970 CPU only to discover that it won't run on the motherboard would be an expensive mistake to make.

Like you I have lots of different hardware that I mix and match, especially when I  am trying to troubleshoot for other users. I don't think anyone wants to see a list of all my hardware but they do like to see screenshots or have other "evidence" to validate what I am saying, when it is appropriate.
Exactly. Im not calling him a liar, but its all too easy to claim what you like when youre hiding behind a screen, hence why Im asking for a screenshot.

Just like you guys I also have more than one computer (although the other one is much older than my desktop which is what Im talking about here)

to cchaos:
I would also have to agree with this:
Frankly, I'd get an 965 BE or 1055T instead but if you don't want to overclock I guess it's a good option.
There really isn't a lot of headroom on the 970 when it comes to overclocking so unless you are planning on running it at stock you would be better off not hoping from too much more fom this CPU.
Stock to me would be fine. Otherwise I would just OC my 7750+ BE

My 970 is 125w which is compatoble. From the other forum it appears yours is 140w which may not be compatible.
And that, is what is concerning me:

OK, so Ive actually brought it. And so far all its doing is just sitting on my computer desk still sealed.

The online shop where I got it is here: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-275-AM&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=1328 (link is straight to product, states that its a 140W)

However, when I check the part numbers against here http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AMD-Phenom%20II%20X4%20970%20Black%20Edition%20-%20HDZ970FBK4DGM%20%28HDZ970FBGMBOX%29.html you can see that they say its a 125W.

Photos of the processor in the box are available if you want to see them, but for now Im not going to open the box until I have a clear "what are you worrying about? Just open it" or a "send that back"

Oh, and lesson learnt: always double check that the board is compatible before committing to buy (normally I do, but I though it would be fine)
Title: Re: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: absic on November 23, 2010, 07:10:08 pm
Hi,

from what I can find on the AMD website there is only one version of this CPU and it's 125 Watt.
Check Here: http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/processors/phenom-ii/Pages/phenom-ii-model-number-comparison.aspx

Now, assuming that AMD's website is correct then I would probably open the box and try out the CPU on your Mobo. You don't really have anything to lose and you could find that, as fadsarmy has stated, it works OK.
Title: Re: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: geekyadz on November 23, 2010, 08:36:14 pm
from what I can find on the AMD website there is only one version of this CPU and it's 125 Watt.
Check Here: http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/processors/phenom-ii/Pages/phenom-ii-model-number-comparison.aspx

Now, assuming that AMD's website is correct then I would probably open the box and try out the CPU on your Mobo. You don't really have anything to lose and you could find that, as fadsarmy has stated, it works OK.
I cant argue about that. Im sure AMD know more about its own processors than a site that sells them.

Do I assume that I can just jump to the latest BIOS version?

fadsarmy, Im sorry for the bickering (my bad), but I really would like to know which BIOS version youre using. If you just want to type it, then thats fine. If you want to put it as a screenshot, then thats also fine. Either way, I would really like to know
Title: Re: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: fadsarmy on November 23, 2010, 09:10:49 pm
I'm using Bios F9G.
 
Trust me it works.

The one at overclockers's is showing as 140W?
Title: Re: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: geekyadz on November 23, 2010, 09:17:58 pm
I'm using Bios F9G.
As I thought you might be. Right, downloading that as soon as Ive finished typing this post.


Trust me it works.
Ok, I trust you

The one at overclockers's is showing as 140W?
Yes, and as I said yesterday: everything I find about the CPU in question states its a 125W.

Tell you what, if this actually works, I will let Overclockers know that they have made a mistake (or I might just post that as a review)

Im not going to try doing it tonight (bit late, feeling a little tired) but I will try when I finish work tomorrrow
Title: Re: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: Dark Mantis on November 24, 2010, 04:37:09 pm
Glad to see the two of you have settled your differences as it's much easier to gain information then and friendlier ;D
Title: Re: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: geekyadz on November 24, 2010, 08:08:15 pm
Well, Ive flashed the BIOS - worked. System felt a bit faster upon boot up as well

Ive just finished putting the new CPU, booted her up and shes decided to detect the X4 970. Shes been on for about 10 mins and is sitting in the BIOS health status at about 38 to 39 oC. Gonna leave her for a while so that the thermal paste can set and then its screen shot time (along with a photo of the BIOS)

Again, sorry to be a wind up, but thankyou for your help
Title: Re: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: geekyadz on November 24, 2010, 09:26:33 pm
A few screenshots from Windows XP:

(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq14/cchaos81/PC%20screenshots/AMD%20970%20processor/970screen1.jpg)

(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq14/cchaos81/PC%20screenshots/AMD%20970%20processor/970screen2.jpg)

(http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq14/cchaos81/PC%20screenshots/AMD%20970%20processor/970screen3.jpg)

The only bit of editing I have done is to the System Properties tab where I have removed my name and the key
Title: Re: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: fadsarmy on November 25, 2010, 07:45:03 am
1.472v cpu voltage. That looks high.
Title: Re: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: geekyadz on November 25, 2010, 12:50:29 pm
1.472v cpu voltage. That looks high.
Thats at default. Whats yours at?
Title: Re: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: bytheway_r on November 25, 2010, 06:14:05 pm
That's why I said this thing is pointless for overclocking. It's basically near the limit of what Phenom II chips are capable of.

As an example, one of the early Phenom II's that I have ( x3 720 BE ) runs at 1.325v stock. Funny thing that it can do 3.2Ghz at these volts, too ( stock 2.8Ghz ). 
Title: Re: GA-MA770-UD3 (rev. 1.0): CPU query
Post by: absic on December 03, 2010, 04:21:29 pm
Just to let everyone know that Gigabyte have now officially validated the Phenom 970 CPU on the GA-MA770-UD3 running BIOS F9g.

Thanks to all those who posted about this.