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Questions about GIGABYTE products => Motherboards with Intel processors => Topic started by: manowargr on May 24, 2011, 02:11:24 pm
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Hello i have one problem, i have Gigabyte ud3r x58a revision 2.0 rams 6gb kingston cas latency 7-8-7-20 on extreme memory profile.
ok my problem is On cold boot, the computer have power for one second, goes off and 2 seconds afterwards turns on again automatically.
and then its ok i mean after that goes into windows. that problem i have it one time in 2 weeks... what can be it ?
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JohnZ
Normal operation after a Bios reset..........will not damage you rig..........sounds like the XMP profile might be a bit adventuresome for the Voltage (memory Voltage) and it's resetting to a lower setting before it can boot........try going into Bios on a cold boot and write down the setting in the memory field and check if it corresponds with documentation/website if there the same......might just need to be set manually with a tad more volts.
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You could try loosening those fast memory timings a wee bit manually and see if it performs better
Aussie Allan
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you are correct i know that, but i dont have try it never.. can you tell me what voltage to give and what timings?
creators timings and mhz and voltage on official site of kingston its 7-8-7-20, 1600mhz, 1.65 voltage.
what else i must change can you help me ? can you give me some information but make it easy ;/ i dont know much things.
we have same motherboard but i have the FF bios. you know the bios tell me what i must change ..
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sometimes you just have to dive in at the deep end, I can't do it for you, What I do feel comfortable with telling you is..... try firstly to loosen the timing a little to see if some stability is the result.........Try going from 7-8-7-20 mem timings to 8-8-8-22 and see if the current-settings will allow.
If this is a little over your head, you may want to consider sitting down and start doing some extensive reading on the subject (on-line) as we all started somewhere........It really is quite hard to destroy modern motherboards with an incorrect value as there's so many fail-safes built into them........generally they will just default back to a basic setting in order to boot.
Aussie Allan
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Hi
Well if we assume that al the cables and connections are ok and there are no faulty/loose ones the next thing is to check is the memory.
Please follow these instructions exactly.
I would suggest that you download and run the latest version of Memtest86+ to check your RAM first.
Memtest86+ http://www.memtest.org/
Insert one stick of memory in slot 1 and run Memtest on it for at least 10 complete loops/cycles and if there are no errors then swap it over with the next one and continue untill you have checked all modules.
If you have any errors the module is faulty.
If you have any faulty modules you will have to return the whole kit as they are matched.
Post back when you have done that with the results.
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every two weeks or more closing on cold boot one time, i dont think my ram or somethink is damaged, i agree with allan maybe its extreme memory profile problem because is 4gb+ ram on 4gb working at many pcs i have seen perfectly, i have listen that for more gbs needs manualy setup.
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i test with memtest, no problems at all, i think i find what it is.
with default bios the rams running at 1066 mhz 7-7-7-20 i see that from the cpu-z
i dont have any problems, but i wanna know why i have problem with xmp ..
because the rams i buy is 1600 mhz, i dont know alone to make it manual :) anyway i think performance its better.. it goes more faster i think i think i think, im not sure anyway .
john.
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Some memory even if it is rated at 1600 mhz doesn't have an XMP attached. You need to make all the setting manually in that situation.
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Hello Dark, this is http://www.kingston.com/hyperx/products/khx_ddr3.asp
Or here http://www.kingston.com/hyperx/products/khx_ddr3.asp third in list . with 7-8-7-20
can you check it and see if its supported?
thanks.
John.
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That memory looks to be compatible and it does have an XMP as well. So that make things just that bit more simple.
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if its simple why i have every 1 week or 2 one cold boot shut down, and power on again ?
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Are you overclocking your system at all ?
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no..
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I would suggest that it is probably a broken wire or motherboard track that is just failing long enough to cause a reboot. Try gently moving the power cables while the system is running and see if you can replicate the issue.
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Hello dark, with all on auto only ahci on bios enabled nothink happens, never closing in a cold boot.. im sure i need to make the rams manualy .
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Well you could try that and see if it helps, quite often it can depending on the actual problem of course. If you want to go down that raod I would suggest starting from the beginning and clear the CMOS following these instruction exactly. Afterwards you will also load the optimised BIOS defaults so that will give you a clean start.
Remove the power cable from the mains supply and then press the power switch on the case for a few seconds just to drain any residual energy in the PSU capacitors.
Once done remove the motherboard battery for at least one hour before replacing it.
Next plug back into the mains supply and boot.
You will now need to enter the BIOS by pressing DEL and load Optimised BIOS Defaults.
Make any other changes to the BIOS settings to suit your self like disabling the floppy drive, disabling the full screen logo and making the HDD the primary boot device and then press F10 to save and exit.
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:) why to do that if i dont use the xmp profile? i say to you ,only with the xmp 1 time in 2 weeks closing on cold boot.. you think it can cure that if do all theese?
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ok i memtest again with the latest one version ** Memtest86+ V4.20, Download - Auto-installer for USB Key (Win 9x/2k/xp/7) *NEW!*
default rams 1066 passed .
Xmp 1600 mhz passed .
what else i must check now?
John.
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Sorry to butt in here but, I just reread your entire post again and you don't seem to have any real major problems there except the occasional boot issue , may I suggest you update your bios from FF to FG ... this is easily done via the Gigabyte website and see if this fixes the small issue you experience once or twice a month.
Aussie Allan
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thanks allan, yea i will do that i will post back in some days.
(you mean fg1 beta right?)
John.
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Make sure that you use QFlash to run the update not @BIOS for safety reasons. Also make sure that during the proceedure youuntick the box on the QFlash homepage that mentions Keeping DMI Data.
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Ditto what DM said........ Fg1 was the beta Bios that disappeared about 2 months back as far as the site shows me , being replaced by FG, try using Taiwan link if all you find is Fg1.....or other till you find it.
Mmmmmmmmmm.....Just checked FG1.....not FG any more , must be new, ... thanks for the heads Up! ......Released 1st April !
Can be confusing how they run it sometimes.......it went ....FF......Fg1 beta......FG.....now FG1.....thank god I'm only slightly dyslexic.
Aussie Allan
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oh i donwnload it and it seems is not beta right? it says Fg1 from all regions, asia, europe america i think they forget to update deleting the "beta think" ...
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Make sure that you use QFlash to run the update not @BIOS for safety reasons. Also make sure that during the proceedure youuntick the box on the QFlash homepage that mentions Keeping DMI Data.
i have change bios from FA or FB if i remember right 2 times to newer bios, but never i didnt close the dmi pool, and i waz wrong but i didnt know.. now i have read to many forums and from the biosman i have see a lot things but im still learning :)
Thanks Dm, and Allan.
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Occasionally Gigabyte can and will roll back a BIOS update if they think it's in everyone's best interest, ... this one was a surprise to me as well !
We will just have to wait and , I had Fg1 on my system for a while and it seemed fine to me.
Aussie Allan
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Hey Allan, if you load the new one let me know.
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No problems Hombray ! Speak again soon !
Aussie Allan
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Sometimes a BIOS update is pulled from the site usually because an issue has been found with it. Normally it will be recoded and uploaded a short time afterwards.
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i need fast a bios without problems i have bored with those problems ................
now i try i put the dvdrom into the marvel down first one port, maybe cant work on ahci and have some times boot problems i dont know..
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Theres enough problems with marvell , ... run it IDE for DVD Drive if your using this port, this will give you one less problem to kick around.
Aussie Allan
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Hello Allan, right now i have the dvdrom to ide mode but on Marvell controler.
you think i must change it back to ahci on intel controller?
John.
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JohnZ
No, if it works there...leave it....IDE is correct also , there no gains I know about with ACHI for Optical drives. this should free up some resources on the Intel controller helping performance some what!
Aussie Allan
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No certainly do not move it back to the Intel ports. It will perform fine on the Marvell port.
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yea, by the way the FG1 bios from the gigabyte site have problem, when you try install it with qflash it says incorrect size..
the FF and others working normal ..
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Are you targeting/highlighting just the BIOS file to use....some just choose multiple files out of the unpacked content.....this will produce a "FAIL"
Aussie Allan
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Hi Allan, so when i will excract a bios on my desktop which file i must copy on the usb flash?
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Just the one that states "X58AUD3R.FG1" this is assuming you have the version 2 board, always make sure you download the exact model and version
Aussie Allan
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Yes Allan, we have the same motherboard i have the revision 2.0
oh my god, i have change 3 times the bios with all files inside ;/ this is problem?
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Hi
No it isn't a problem as such.
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Dark Mantis, check that if working http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3449#bios
or someone im sure they know they dont working.. it still says file size incorect .
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Hi
The file looks correct to me but obviously I can't run it. Have you tried updating as specified using @BIOS or FLASHSPI.exe ?
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i know how to flash bios, the file is corrupt i dont know why they did that.
Anyway Lsdmeasap gave me the latest bios for my motherboard FH1 bios..
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He is a very useful helper and it isn't very often he gets caught out. 8)
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yep he is from the best i have see ever.
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Hello again i have some new info with some tests i made, first of all i have flash it via @BIOS to latest FG that program gave me it have one option called EFI they told me to leave it auto, anyway.
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) (12.0)
memory frequency mhz 1600
Performance Enhance (Standard) First time i set it like this. i had it on turbo
and in the second page i set dram voltage to 1.66 didnt have 1,65 .. its the same .. i think
tell me if i must set manual and qpi or somethink else
by the way, my computer now runs more faster its very fast i dont know why.
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error ;) i had bsod with those settings im sure the bsod waz because i left on auto the qpi ram voltage. now i set it to 1.35. i will post back with more news.
any help would be great.
John.
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Have you tested with the defaults BIOS parameters ?
Run fine , low power / temperature for memory sticks ( for me 40 ° but with XMP 60° !! )
Pierre
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Hello Pierre, yes i have try its all ok with default settings, and yes lower temp without xmp
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what performance enhance to choose? standard, turbo, extreme ?
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and something else, every time that i change an option for example voltage i must load optimized default clear cmos then restart and then configure them all again? or not and just change somethink/save and exit.
John.
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Hello again, i overclock my system to 4ghz it seems stable, one friend of mine told me the settings Dark can you check if is ok?
i want to try with lower voltage maybe will work i dont know..
Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [20]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech ................. [Enable]
CPU Cores Enabled .......................... [All]
CPU Multi Threading ..........................[Enable]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................. [Disable]
C3/C6/C7 State Support ................... [Disable]
CPU Thermal Monitor ........................ [Disable]
CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disable]
Virtualization Technology ................. [Disable]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT .................... [Disable]
Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed ..............................[x36]
Uncore Frequency ..........................[x17]
Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control .................. [Enable]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) .........................[200]
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ............. [100]
C.I.A.2........................................... ....... [-]
Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................ [900]
CPU Clock Skew ............................
IOH Clock Skew .............................
Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance .......................... [Standard]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ........... [Disable]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........... [ 8]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) ............. [Quick]
Channel A + B + C
Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control## First try these " relaxed " timings , if it is stable you can try the 7-8-7-20 timings your memory is rated at
CAS Latency Time ..................[8]
tRCD ......................................[8]
tRP ........................................[8]
tRAS ......................................[24]
CR..........................................[1]
B2B........................................[-]
Advanced Voltage Control:
Load Line Calibration .................... Level 2]
CPU Vcore ......................................[1.325]
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v .................[1.42]
CPU PLL 1.800v ..............................[1.80]
PCIE 1.500v ...................................[1.56]
QPI PLL 1.100v ..............................[1.24]
IOH Core 1.100v ............................[1.22]
ICH I/O 1.500v ...............................[1.58]
ICH Core 1.1v ................................[1.2]
DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v .............. [1.66]
DRAM Termination 0.750v.......... [Normal]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v ...........[Normal]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v ...........[Normal]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v ...........[Normal]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v ........[Normal]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v ........[Normal]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v ........[Normal]
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On the face of it they look ok to me. I would probably not have the Turbo enabled but it is a matter of choice.