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Questions about GIGABYTE products => Motherboards with Intel processors => Topic started by: Aussie Allan on October 14, 2011, 11:38:50 am
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Hi People!
Can't keep riding on the Back of the Bulldozer thread so have kicked off this little page to gauge peoples interest in what Intel have in store for us in the coming months......
I'll monitor and answer any direct questions to the best of my ability along with others , ...... but remember, ....We know about as much as you!
I'll add some links to some worth while reading as well for a bit more flavour and content.......hopefully we will be better armed when the new LGA2011 socket arrives then the debacle over the last couple of days re AMDs offering or lack of it.
To kick things off .... Intels new 3-D Tri-Gate Transistor technology got me thinking about Die density and a bit of hunting gave me a transistor count of about 1.16 to 1.28 billion ...... but I did the maths and something doesn't add up!.......I came up with 1.4 to 1.49 billion Transistors on a 172.6152 square mm on the 22nm die process ???.....yes I factored in no Graphics and even added the interlink controllers to boot!..... but it still seems We may be in for a monster of a CPU due to 22nm process combined with all the transistors now standing up and being pack together so tightly ( 3D Tri-Gate) ........
And my favourite quote.......
World's First Demonstration of 22nm 3-D Tri-Gate Transistors
The 3-D Tri-Gate transistor will be implemented in the company's upcoming manufacturing process, called the 22nm node, in reference to the size of individual transistor features. More than 6 million 22nm Tri-Gate transistors could fit in the period at the end of this sentence( . ) 8)
Not a bad thing by any means.......Enjoy the read!
http://www.hardcore-hardware.com/20111003170/Latest-news/intel-mobile-ivy-bridge-cpu-pictured-compared-with-sandy-bridge.html
http://newsroom.intel.com/community/intel_newsroom/blog/2011/05/04/intel-reinvents-transistors-using-new-3-d-structure
Aussie Allan
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Hi,
Any ideas of the prices of MB's Allan and the launch date?
Here's some news or may be not regarding 1366 CPU's:
http://motherboardnews.com/2011/06/13/intels-x79-chipset-to-support-lga-1366-cpus/
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Don't hold your breath .....but have a look at this....http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2011/05/31/asus-shows-lga2011-concept-board/1
Launch date of both is work in progress........It's already cost me a lunch and got no where ...... maybe not McDonald's next time :-X
Aussie Allan
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Some information on the cost of the LGA 2011 CPU's, according to this article the i7 3820 might turnout to be cheaper than the i5 2600:
http://lenzfire.com/2011/08/prices-for-intels-core-i7-3xxx-revealed-45388/
It's getting interesting, will prices of i5 cpu's fall.
teknology9
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Better then expected really .... but I still think Intel will go for the throat on this one...... expect the prices to go lower on the initial release/launch
I think this is the reason Intel raised the price of the X79 chip ($50US per unit) to board manufactures to offset there projected discounts on the CPUs
Still guessing but it makes good business sense!
It's getting interesting, will prices of i5 cpu's fall. ..... MOST DEFINITELY! ..... will be old tech by then...Might even get one with a tank of juice ;)
Good find teknology9
Aussie Allan
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Here is some more good news, you don't work for Intel do you Aussie Allan? Have a butchers at this:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Intel-X79-Is-50-More-Expensive-than-the-Z68-Brings-Almost-No-New-Features-227237.shtml
but I still think Intel will go for the throat on this one
You were right......or is it just stating the obvious.
Teknology9
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If they offer me a job.....I'll seriously consider it......even if it's to keep my big mouth shut ;D
One of the pitfalls of having a semi-photographic memory is it allows you to gather a lot of relative, current data and make informed guesses!
One thing Sorin missed on touching in that feature is although he states "No new real features" it will support a whole new Family architecture.....tick....tock....which is LGA-2011.......from the obvious of 22nm ...to 3D tri-Gate and materials...... these chips will clock like demons ...... a lot of it comes down to the actual Die/wafer thickness ......the thinner they are.....the better and faster they can dissipate heat from the CORE of the die to the spreader.....this is one of the reasons why "K" silica was so successful .....more dense.....faster heat dissipation!
Here are some of the things being said on the net about what's possibly in store.......
A whopping 15MB of L3 cache! ....... this is the size (or very close) of Dozers L2 and L3 combined....
32 lanes mounted on the die .....resulting in.................
Natively supports dual x16 PCIe that are directly from the CPU instead of from the chipset for shortened latency
PCIe 3.0 likely
42.75% to 60% increase in performance ......probable due to in part to quad channel memory support
66% increase in memory bandwidth up to 1800Mhz supported (officially)
1.19 to 1.49 Billion transistor count on a 22nm build
The LGA 2011 socket (R) pin count can support up to 12 physical cores ( 24 in total physical and logical)
Up to 180W TDP Stock..... don't let big numbers scare you.......all you have to do is get rid of it ..... air will be a very hard call even at stock speed.....current designs tap out at about 130-160W
Sandy Bridge-E Won't Pack Stock Coolers, Intel to Sell them Separately
maximum single-core Turbo speeds. Both the hex-core 3.3GHz and quad-core 3.6GHz top out at a maximum speed of 3.9GHz,
Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition is pitched to be about 47.25% faster on average, compared to Core i7-990X Extreme Edition.
I'll post some more as it comes to light , BTW ...... I always read everything and only the more believable makes it on to my posts
Aussie Allan
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If they offer me a job.....I'll seriously consider it......even if it's to keep my big mouth shut
Hey....Al....if they did that we would miss out on all the information that you bring to our attention!!! :D
This makes for good reading and even better if your a rich photographer who can afford it!!! :D
I always read everything and only the more believable makes it on to my posts
Well....Al, everthing posted, by anyone is food for thought, and you either take notice of it or you don't. But you know all these top secrets, by the way look at this:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20111004232129_AMD_s_Next_Generation_Piledriver_Micro_Architecture_Expected_to_Offer_10_Performance_Advantage.html
This won't mean you'll go quiet again......will it!!! ;D
teknology9
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This won't mean you'll go quiet again......will it!!!
Not a hope in Hell my friend......!
AMD Piledriver Core May Be 10% More Powerful Than Original Bulldozer.........due sometimes in 2012
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......How long was Dozer delayed ::) ........I'll be dead by then!
Aussie Allan
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This won't mean you'll go quiet again......will it!!!
Not a hope in Hell my friend......!
Ahhhh......good things just would not be the same matey!!!
Teknology9
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There are certain things that need to be relied upon! A quiet Allan would just not be right :o
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And my all-time personal favourites
Compared to Intel’s first microprocessor, the 4004, introduced in 1971, a 32nm CPU runs over 4.000 times faster ........and each transistor uses about 4,000 times less energy. The price per transistor has dropped by a factor of about 110,000.
And the Humble 32nm transistor can switch on and off at over 300 billion times in one second 8)
Aussie Allan
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I can remember hankering after the Intel 8008 processor and thinking what a powerful beast that must be. ::) Seems impossible now but that is how things change along the way.
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News Flash!
Every person thats into Intel or AMD for that matter needs to read this link.......Here's a few title snips from the article .................
Intel Haswell will be much easier to overclock, compared to Ivy Bridge
In terms of Overclocking Intel claims that if overclocking a Sandy Bridge processor is easy then doing the same with Ivy Bridge will be easier, with Haswell it will be much easier, which will support higher frequencies with even conventional cooling methods and each of the critical components will be optimized for better overclocking. Now you can overclock the cores and memory without worrying about affecting the I / O bus and PCIe clock.
Complete Series of Ivy Bridge will come with an Unlocked Multiplier
Performance Increase of IGP in Intel Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge processors
Intel Haswell CPU will have 2 or 3 GPUs working Simultaneously
AMD APUs vs Intel Haswell with 3 IGPs
http://lenzfire.com/2011/10/intel-haswell-cpu-will-have-multiple-igps-with-better-overclocking-support-56437/
Enjoy
Aussie Allan
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Thats interesting reading good find Aussie Allan, the deciding factor for some will be cost will Intel lower their prices to be commercially competitive aswell?. I would like to see the range of X79 MB's from Gigabyte,it's mid October and no info as of yet.
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Unfortunately , with the lack-luster of the last week......No need for Intel to hit the panic/ release early button
We should see Board just before Santa does!
Aussie Allan
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UPDATE!......4 hrs ago
Some leaks .....Pricing , release dates and more
The biggest news is the 8 core beast will be shelved for 2011..... back too Sandy Bridge E release Q2 2012 ....... this in part to Intel not needing to launch early due to ..............below anticipated performance figures from it's competition .....Damit!......Told you Dozer was effecting everyone.....Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/item/24222-sandy-bridge-e-starts-at-$294
http://wccftech.com/intel-sandy-bridgee-processors-limited-cores/
http://wccftech.com/intel-roadmap-leaks-sandy-bridgee-details-core-i7-3980x-extreme-edition-processor-revealed/
http://wccftech.com/intel-sandy-bridgee-lga-2011-pricing-leaked-core-i7-3960x-extreme-edition-cost-1000us/
Aussie Allan
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Why the initial desktop Sandy Bridge-E chips has only six (of eight) cores enabled?
Read more: http://vr-zone.com/articles/why-the-initial-desktop-sandy-bridge-e-chips-has-only-six-of-eight-cores-enabled-/13748.html#ixzz1b2zwUeoV
Aussie Allan
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Here's another Gem ........22nm combined with 3D Tri-gate has thrown Intel Tables out the window literally....... TDP for the Sandy Bridge E was projected at 95W.
First initial tests have come back at 77W TDP ;D Read on...........
http://vr-zone.com/articles/ivy-bridge-to-have-77w-max-tdp-backwards-and-forwards-compatibility-explained/13754.html
AND
http://vr-zone.com/articles/intel-cpus-overclocked-sandy-easy-ivy-easier-haswell-easiest-/13733.html
Aussie Allan
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Lots of good info there Aussie Allan, I wonder what the exchange rates will be when X79 is launched.
Teknology9
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If the inflation figures hold to the end of the year.......parity with the AU Dollar and maybe with the US dollar aswell
When I came here 5 years ago......I paid $2.46AU to the Pound........now you're lucky to get $1.28 AU :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
based on 500K Australian dollars.........when I first got here that was worth ....About £203,000 ......if i did the same thing today, it would add up to £390,000 pounds.........that a loss of £187,000 pounds per 500K.......Yes I'm pretty pissed at the Government!
No matter how you look at it......Boards, CPUs will seem very expensive this and the next time round
Angry Allan >:(
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Hey Angry Allan,
That being the case consumers will just have to shop around and try obatin the best deals, perhaps this forum will point members in the right direction when the time comes.
Relaxed teknology9
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What I can't see the point of is bothering with 1366 socket. You just end up with a Board that is a mismatch of chips that don't
work properly, at least the Intel 1155 is SATA 3. The good thing would be the faster PCIe on new Boards.
Regards tinker.
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I agree Tinker. Whilst I use my 1366 system everyday and on the whole am very happy with it but no way would I consider buying a board based on this socket now. Things have just moved on and for less money you can purchase a 1155 based board where everything works well together and is at least as powerful as the older board. Whether the new 2011 based boards will make a solid reason to upgrade we shall have to see but I suspect that they are going to be killler prices.
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Here is some up to date info folks:
http://www.nordichardware.com/news/69-cpu-chipset/43671-intel-to-launch-lga2011-in-2011-features-missing.html
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Interesting read. We will have to see how exactly it pans out in the end. Maybe it won't only be AMD with their BullDozer that has problems. :-\
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Hi Folks,
For all you Noctua CPU cooler fans out there, no pun intended, have a look at this:
http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=40&lng=en
Teknology9
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Yes what a disaster!......Temporarily clipped back to 6 cores.....Only 15Mb of L3 cache and will probably only hit 6.2Ghz with chilled setups ;)
Can't wait for the Disappointment that Ivy-Bridge E will bring to the Masses Q2-Q3 2012 ;D
Another little tit-bit......
A bit of rough maths shows the drop from 95W to 77W to be 19 per cent, meaning that we expect frequency to increase by roughly 23 per cent. That could mean that the Core i7-3600K could have a nominal frequency of around 4.2GHz as a stock speed before speed stepping comes into play.
Aussie Allan
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Yeah......but how much is it all going to cost Al, they don't give that alot away with a certain breakfast cereal made from maize.
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Correct ....... and just like now ..... CPUs don't come in cereal packets....... this argument is timeless .....it come-up at, or just before every release, tick or tock
Sad but true.......if its £200 pounds it's too expensive but we buy them..........if it's £345 it's too expensive but we buy them!
Or wait 10-12 months till there £200 then there too expensive but we buy them ;)
Aussie Allan
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You know, you're absloutely right Aussie Allan, probably priced knowing that PC enthusiasts will dig deep and pay for this tech. If it meets your requirements then it's money well spent.
I didn't know about this though:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2379241,00.asp#fbid=Hn0sSlyLqHa
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I didn't know about this though:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2379241,00.asp#fbid=Hn0sSlyLqHa
You are not serious, surely!
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No, I'm not serious........and stop calling me surely!!!! ;D
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teknology9 ..... this is the Royal Classic example of what I was talking about the other day re using multiple sources to clarify ......stuff!
1) it's a mag (English Media) that specializes in drumming up business for the big boys and true to form.....have not a moral fibres to what method they use or accuracy of the information printed.
Next to sex to sell a product (Pretty girl holding a Hard drive) is.... scare the living daylights out of Joe Blogs that his pride and joy is about to become Chernobyl and needs replacing.....
........And I won't call you Shirley if you Don't call me Wooden-eye! ;)
Aussie Allan
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I see Aussie Allan, use more than one source to verify articles found on the interweb...ok thanks.
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In the nicest possible way buddy ...... I have to remind myself constantly.......A hell of a lot of people read these pages....So the information has to be pretty tight........ once up there, their for prosperity.......your grand-kids might even read your post one day........scary thought huh! ;)
I see Aussie Allan, use more than one source to verify articles found on the interweb...ok thanks.
No need to post all of them.....one will do ....... true photojournalists will cross reference several sources to clarify the integrity of the information
Unfortunately in this country .....this sort of integrity ....... gets in the way of a good story.
Aussie Allan
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Yes, I know what your saying, I was agreeing with you...so don't misunderstand what I wrote before ok? :D
Yes, alot of people read this forum and in saying that have access to the interweb and who knows how many have read that article, but I think you'll find when Bulldozer was launched I used Tom's Hardware and a couple of others to verify the date, which was correct, and the initial performance including Hexus etc.
Good find teknology9
Aussie Allan
re this find:
http://lenzfire.com/2011/08/prices-for-intels-core-i7-3xxx-revealed-45388/
Ok Al!!! :)
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Don't forget Intel have to get back at least $700 million to $1,Billion lost over last botch up. Who will pay for this !! ??? ::)
Regards tinker.
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Approximate total worth of Intel..........77 Billion
Total Assets..................................66.09 Billion
Liquid assets again approximate..........11 billion
Mcafee acquisition ..........................10 billion....CASH!
Intel Capital Portfolio.......................2.179 billion
Gross profit this financial year (to date)...33.1Billion
Don't forget Intel have to get back at least $700 million to $1,Billion lost over last botch up. Who will pay for this !!
There end of year beer fund should cover it ;)
Aussie Allan
UP DATE......Oh Yeh! there a buy ATM with imminent release in the wind
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Finally found a second source......and it was Wikipedia to boot!
" Intel has demonstrated a New Sandy Bridge CPU (Probably an Engineering sample) running stably over-clocked at 4.9 GHz on air cooling"
Go tri-gate GO!
Aussie Allan
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Several sources state the launch date of the X79 chipset in mid November:
http://en.ocworkbench.com/tech/intel-to-launch-intel-x79-chipset-in-mid-november-2011
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/24441-x79-chipset-ships-in-november
http://www.guru3d.com/news/intel-x79-chipset-is-20-15-more-expensive-than-x58/
http://www.dannzfay.com/2011/10/intel-core-i7-3930k-and-core-i7-3960x.html
http://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/31697-intel-sandy-bridge-e-primed-november-launch/
There are many other links which point to this particular time.
Teknology9
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I would have to say that fits in roughly with my information.
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My sources are sticking with 16th to the 25th Nov ........(Original post early Sept)....chuffed! ;) .......only change on spec was going from 12 to 15Mb L3!
Good work teknology9 ......hard to dismiss with that many ....."Confirmed" ;)
Aussie Allan
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Yes, not that long now. It will be interesting to see the various motherboards that Gigabyte will produce with that chipset, most have seen the UD3 and UD5 and of course the X79 G1 Assassin 2 MB which looks impressive.
Teknology9
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Looks like every man and his dog is jumping on the bandwagon.......has anyone seen some of the prices there asking for a 64Gb kits ?
I'm see up to £1000 :o ..... are they MAD! ...... We've gone from £6 per gig for pretty tidy 1600 ram to £15 per gig
But here is the king of "Let's skin em"....Crucial 64GB kit (32GBx2), 240-pin DIMM, DDR3 PC3-8500 memory module (Part Number: CT2KIT409672BQ1067Q) ..........Are you sitting down!...........£4273.96 .......that a whopping £66.78 per Gb.
If these jokers think there going to lift 4 grand from my wallet ....... 2400Mhz or not........not in this life time baby ..... 8)
Aussie Allan
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I was considering filling the banks with them.....and emptying the other bank at the same time! :o
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What a bunch of Wombats, really!.......I,m just going to try several different 12Gb kits in multiples of 4...... record compatibility .....and shout it to the world! ..... Tee Hee Hee Hee! ;) ... I reckon Scan or Aria would jump at the chance for testing like that if you put it to them ....
Aussie Allan
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I read about the earlier Intel problems over 3 months ago. I also came across a site showing an Intel Liquid
cooler thar appeared to have pump on CPU+ small radiator with fan that would fit inside case. The article
said some of the new CPUs would ship with this but no mention of it at present, it looked very compact.
Going back to the Intel problem gather most faulty boards were withdrawn.
Looking at some of the prices think I will wait until boards are fully SATA 3 & USB 3+price drop !!
No wonder Intel have such vast profits.
As I gave up on X58A gone back to my repaired EX58. Taken a gamble & bought an LSI card only to find
no leads supplied. After a lot of time wasting located a set that should be here tomorrow. If I can get a
decent SSD 6gb/s speed will do me for now, though in retrospect for a bit more cash could have had an
1155 setup. A bit annoying having to wait another day to find out if I have dropped a big clanger !!
It's great to read about all the new technology but...how many times does it bring disappoinment. :-\
Regards tinker.
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Going back to the Intel problem gather most faulty boards were withdrawn.
Regards tinker.
The fault that you are referring to was to do with the SATA2 ports controller on the Intel Cougar Point chipset. Intel realised the impending error and quite rightly recalled all the boards that were already out in the wild and in warehouses. That was why most of the boards now have a B3 suffix just to assure people that what they have is the new upgraded motherboards. The previous faulty boards were denoted as B2 which wasn't noted so openly and only refers to the Build number. If you want any further information please ask.
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Yes, runn3R has done a post about this topic which can be found here:
http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,4432.0.html
And yes. I did know about it before this. :)
Teknology9
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a snip pulled of the net.......
Intel's upcoming Sandy Bridge-E CPUs will apparently deliver solid overclocking potential, according to the latest reports.
Whilst it isn't clear which Sandy Bridge-E offering was involved, the CPU is said to be having been running a multiplier of 41X - with a BCLK of 120MHz - to deliver a final speed of 4.92GHz. On the memory side of the equation, we're told that DDR3-2,400MHz (CAS 10) RAM was at the helm. CPU voltage was set at 1.51V, and idle temperatures were roughly around the 45° Celsius mark.
What's more, the above results were derived with an Intel X79 mainboard - utilising a 'regular' air cooling solution - so seemingly no liquid or LN2 was involved.
Given that the CPU in question was an engineering sample, it's believed that retail flavours will do even better.
Dates are firming as well if you believe them to 14 to 20th........with the 3930K at $560US
Aussie Allan
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So Allan, £2 to £3000 should get you a bit faster PC if it all works !! ::)
Regards tinker.
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You have Totally lost me! .....including ::)
Aussie Allan
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Going back to the Intel problem gather most faulty boards were withdrawn.
Yes,you are right.Intel has again some problems with X79 chipset:
Although Intel will be officially released in the middle of next month LGA2011 Sandy Bridge-E processor, X79 chipset, the major motherboard manufacturers have demonstrated in their new board, but it was such a limited range of high-end platform for market, delivery ratio is very low, and second, according to leaked news, Intel will launch just two months after the revised version of the new C2 stepping processors and new chipsets, many consumers may choose to wait and see both, and not immediately join the new platform.
Source :
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=zh-CN&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fcoolaler.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D276504
Btw, some benchmarks with 3960X vs 3930K, 15MB vs 12MB Cache:
http://coolaler.com/showthread.php?t=276465
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It was more that if Intel wanted to release the chipset this year instead of waiting until it was really ready and all completed there were a few shortcomings that would have to be accepted such as the number of SATA ports, etc.
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Hi folks,
Those clever chaps and chapesses at Noctua have produced a CPU cooler for the new LGA2011 socket:
http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=41&lng=en
I don't work for Noctua, but what they produce is quality in my humble opinion!!! ;)
teknology9
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Well just minutes to go till the NDA is lifted.......I'll post what I know at midnight ...
Aussie Allan
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Well nothing as yet filtering down but it'll happen in the next 24 hrs
Prices will gel at $294 through to the top chip at $999 US
Some leaked slides are here but remember these are first stepping samples.......apparently only about 10,000 units will ship as B2 is coming immediately with B3 by Xmas.......the "D" is expected to ship well into the first quarter of 2012.....this could be the sweet spot for performance and price.........5Ghz is being reported on air over many sites.........and the big news.......Sandy Bridge-E VT-d Broken In C1 Stepping, Fixed In C2 Stepping, Shortly After Launch ......as usual, wait until the dust settles of the wannabes getting the very first CPUs to hit the market!
http://wccftech.com/intel-sandy-bridgee-core-i7-3960x-benchmarks-slides-unveiled/
http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/item/24222-sandy-bridge-e-starts-at-$294
http://www.tweaktown.com/tags/sandy_bridge_e/index.html
Aussie Allan
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I think it is due to happen tomorrow the 15th actually but I could be mistaken.
I too have heard that the B3 version is the one to wait for as this first version is short on SATA ports as well as the other issues that were not tackled because of the launch date.
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Hi All,
A bit more info regarding quad channel memory and cooling:
http://vr-zone.com/articles/intel-sandy-bridge-e-overclocking--safe-voltage-ranges-quad-channel-kits-thermal-solutions-and-ln2-temperatures/13951-1.html
Teknology9
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Thanks for that Technology9.4
These are just the tit-bits I need for the "MONSTER" Project ;)
Aussie Allan
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Hi,
You're welcome chap......you're welcome.
Teknology9
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AMENDED 21:18 - 14/11/2011
Maybe I was in the dark but for me ( and you ) this is stunning news.......
Core i7-3960X
(3.3GHz, 3.9GHz Turbo, six cores, hyper-threading, unlocked multiplier 15MB L3 cache)
Core i7-3930K
(3.2GHz, 3.8GHz Turbo, six cores, hyper-threading, unlocked multiplier 12MB L3 cache)
Core i7 3820
(3.6GHz, 3.9GHz Turbo, four cores, hyper-threading, partially unlocked multiplier 10MB L3 cache)
The L3 cache was cropped on the 3930K...... but the speed (Mhz) was only cropped by 100Mhz.....why when all past "Extreme Edition Processors" had a marked clipping of speed
This to me is the fantastic news ....as it tells me the difference between the 3930K and the 3960X is most probably binning only and the extra 3Mb of L3 cache locked!.....and that..... it's at it's limit..... not on the die shrink (present nm) but the material itself and the gate architecture........If you don't understand the last statement these are the ramifications....
If you look back at the last 2 or 3 versions of "Extreme Processors" ... there was a marked L3 cachee and/or Mhz difference with the lower chips.....and you payed for the privilege accordingly, .... now you can have the top processor with a 100Mhz penalty (and loose 3Mb of L3)........for much less then half the cost.......100Mhz is only 2.63% of a speed hit ..... now do you see the good news for what it is ;)
This also leads to another gray area and that's the missing L3 cache.....has it been locked out by burning the gate off....or just locked out to be opened at a later date when some smart bunny works it out :)
I don't think we'll be so lucky next time round with 22nm tri-gate technology by the way of Ivy-bridge .....so enjoy it while you can
Aussie Allan
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Actually I think you will find that the level 3 cache is 12MB on the i7 3930
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/core-i7-3960x-x79-sandy-bridge-e,review-32319.html
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Bugga, bugga bugga ..... pcgamer.com and another site that changed there stats in the last 20mins...got me there......broke my own rule check twice, cut once. :D
Will have to amend the earlier post a tad.....still bloody good news still even with 12Mb of L3.....thanks for the correction DM.
Aussie Allan
Moderator edit: I have altered the original text ;) No you didnt... ;D Oh, yes I did! ;D
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Everyone has them up for pre-order..... 8)...... Me.....I'm waiting for Santa at least......if this fails.......
I'll kidnap an elf and ransom ;)
Aussie Allan
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Hi All,
I came across this article on the interweb....makes for interesting reading:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/11/14/intel-sandy-bridge-e-review/1
Teknology9
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Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E Available in stock at Newegg.com.....not pre-order......$599.99 US Dollars if anyone wants to run the UK Customs gauntlet .
UPDATE:............Well worth the read........http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/sandy-bridgee-makeuseof-explains/
Aussie Allan
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Have a look at this link:
http://shop.bestdeal4u.com.au/service/i/1146/n/99+November+2011+LGA+2011+Socket+R+i7+3820+CPU+and+Motherboard+Upgrade+for+Best+Ultimate+PC.html
Bargain or what!!! Aussie Allan.......get on the blower.......I reckon this could be a "nice little earner"!!!! :D ;D ;D ;D
STOP PRESS
Have a gander at this regarding the LGA 2011 3820 CPU
http://azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/3199/459712/intel-core-i7-3820-3-6-ghz-lga2011-socket-l3-10-mb-doos.html
Teknology9
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That's an UPGRADE Tech9 .... no mention of the pre-build what you would be folking out for or the base price before the 99 dollars AU
Also the 3820.....Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Aussie Allan ;)
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Yes.....I know its an "UPGRADE".... Allan!!! :D
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Hi Friends, ;)
Just for infos :
Extract :
Although the Core i7-3820 does enjoy its high points against Gulftown and the Sandy Bridge-based Core i7-2600K, its pricey platform, locked multiplier, and quad-channel memory requirement don’t seem to deliver any more value than a Core i7-2600K on an inexpensive Z68-based board—and that platform gets you Quick Sync support.
Source : http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-3930k-3820-test-benchmark,3090-13.html
In this condition, I have a choice for plateform 1155 with Z68 Motherboard With Cpu E7600k or non K... or maybe Xeon
See my post here about Xeon : http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,7390.msg58692.html#msg58692
I think it would be nice and more reasonable given the little of difference in performance between Cpu Intel-Core i7-3930K and i7-3820.
What do you think of that. The test on the website and his conclusion?
Gloup_Gloup
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Hiya Gloup .... been a bit busy in other areas so congrats on 500, .... Merry Christmas and Happy New Year ....
To cut to the chase Gloup-Gloup ...... Knowing a little of your situation, Its far better for you to have a high end 1155 system to play with then a low end 2011
Performance wise you won't notice diddly-squot .... and you will save your self a small fortune .... not to mention a fair bit of pre-loved components becoming available everywhere, giving you the option to save even more if you want to pursue this cost effective path.
There's also the stability issues .... 1155 has now matured into a fine platform ... BIOS updated fixing most small niggely problems that come with any system ...... For many years I have preached.... "Never buy first generations or stepping's of new kit" ...this has saved my Bacon on several occasions and seems to have proved correct yet again with potential product recalls being bandied about with the new platform across several manufactures.
Hope this answers your question.
Aussie Allan 8)
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Hi Aussie Allan, ;)
Thank a lot for your wishes for the holidays.
According to the understanding of what you wrote, I know you encourage me to get a motherboard socket 1155 as the Bios is more mature. Also I have my money in terms of power and quality.
I want to reiterate my best wishes for good start to the year 2012. ;)
And thank you for the congratulations of the 500th.
Gloup_Gloup