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Questions about GIGABYTE products => Motherboards with AMD processors => Topic started by: jabberwocky on November 10, 2011, 02:47:28 pm
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above board with a new FX6100, along with 16gb (4x4) of 1600 ddr3 ram .
memory is on gigabytes reccomended list , board supports FX 6100 (with F3 BIOS) , but cannot get a signal on the monitor ,that works fine with other PCs .
tried taking 2 ram sticks out ,no change .
the board apparently needs bios F3 to support FX chips ,but I cannot tell cos no screen = no bios adjustments or updates . double and triple checked every connection ,but all ok ,pc fires up all componants spinning ,CPU heatsink gets warm ,as expected .
anyone had this problem before .
need a cuppa ,getting too stressed ......help please .
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Hi there,
from your description I would suspect that your BIOS needs to be flashed before it will recognise the FX 6100 processor and of course, you will need a CPU that is supported to do this.
Do you have a motherboard speaker attached? Are you getting any POST beeps to indicate an error?
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gosh that was ,quick ,thank you absic ,I assumed i would be able to get into bios ragardless ,and would be able to upgrade the bios ,but as things stand ,it looks like a cpu change just to get the bios flashed .is it common to have no monitor signal if cpu is not recognised.
thanks again , graham
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Hi Graham,
Yes, usually if the CPU isn't supported you get the kind of thing that you are experiencing. If you have a motherboard speaker attached you will also usually get a series of single beeps, just like the power error to indicate the problem.
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thanks ,I have a am3 phenom 955 and sink lying around somewhre I will dig it out and try it ASAP .
GET BACK WITH ANY RESULTS LATER ON .
thanks , Graham
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Thanks Absic ,switching proccessors worked , was able to update the bios from F1 to F3. THATS stage one complete ,I dont see any reason why the new FX proccesor would not work now . but I am all out of cooling paste ,so it will be another day before I get it up and running , one more question if I may ,the memory is corsair veangence ddr3 1600 @1.5 volt , when I was in the bios I had a quick look at the memory settings and they are set to auto ,but changing to manual it showed 1.6v (default ) without altering anything .what would you set it at ,or is it safe to leave on auto.
thanks again.
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I don't have your motherboard but I am running 16GB of Vengeance on the GA-990FXA-UD5 at 1600MHz with 1.50V and they are fine.
Running at 1.60V won't present a major problem and this may have been done to improve system stability. If you lower the voltage to 1.5 and have problems booting then increase the voltage up a little at a time until everything is stable. I wouldn't try running at 1600MHz with the 955 though and I would leave this until you have the 6100 up and running.
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I do have your board w/16g ripsaw 1600 4x4 - FX 6100. You do need F3 first for the FX chip & you will need to set the memory in the bios if 1600 - the default is 1333. Just set it to 800 & leave the rest on auto, haven't seen any improvement tweaking the memory yet.
So far so good - running win 8 there's some improvement over win 7. The build you can download is realy meant for a touch screen, so there's a bit of a learning curve = keyboard. That said, the 6100 is a step back from the 955be - I used the 955 from the GA-MA785GMT-US2H this board replaced. There are some instruction issues with the FX - win 8 seems to solve some of these glitches. The bad - win 8 is no where near prime time.
With some luck, big letters LUCK, we might see a patch or new firmware.
I can run this chip at 3900, 19.5x, without problems. When we run a 4gig rendering at it, it does as well or better than anything we have I5 2500 or I7 920.... Fuel efficent? NOT.....
There's more to these chips than we know. They're still a mystery...........
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state of play , FX6100 up and running stock cooler ,32 c after 40 mins of light running ,but I cannot get the memory to work above 1333, altering the voltage from 1.6 to 1.5 (1.5 is whats printed on the memory sticks) has no real problems but as soon as I up the clock to x8 for 1600 ,I get boot failure, with a warning about "failure due to overclocking" ,yet this is supposed to be the native speed of te ram thats fitted.
I had previousely had to update the bios with a phenom 955 BE AND 2 RAM sticks fitted , do you think that clearing the CMOS will need to be done . or am I doomed to have lower ram speed dispite the memory being reccomended by Gigabyte for this board .
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Hi again,
Have you tested the RAM with MemTest to make sure you haven't got any faulty sticks? If not, this is the first thing you really need to do.Test each stick individually in slot DDR3_1 for at least 10 passes. This is time consuming but the only way of properly eliminating the RAM as the basic cause of the problem. If any of the sticks fail you will need to RMA the whole kit.
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thanks ,I will try that ,a few hints though , 1st where do I get Memtest , 2. does it run from windows or floppy/usb etc. and finally do I run it a 1600 or default 1333 and work up .sorry to be a pain .
graham
oops should use google more often ,just answered the first two myself .
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Never a pain Graham and we all have to learn.
You can download MemTest from here: http://www.memtest.org/#downiso depending on which method you prefer you can either create a bootable USB Drive or burn the image to a CD. MemTest runs outside of Windows so you will need to boot either from the CD drive or the USB Drive by pressing the F12 key when you start the PC (like pressing the del key to enter BIOS) to get the BOOT Options menu up.
When you click the above link download the 2nd item which is a ZIP file containing the ISO Image which you will need to extract from the folder.
If you are going to use a USB Stick the you also need to download the 5th item from the MemTest Download page. When you run this programme it will copy the ISO image onto the USB stick and make it bootable for you.
When you press F12 and get to the BOOT Menu you need to BOOT from the USB_HDD if using a USB drive
I would test at 1600MHz at 1.50V as this is what the RAM is rated to run at. Remember though, test one stick at a time.
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Try the clear cmos first. Could be some mistake in it that you can't see - trust me, I've been there many times. I take it you never get past the bios screen & you get the "failure due to overclocking", if true \/
Test the memory outside the OS. Use the usb as absic describes in his post. This is the most accurate way.
What memory are you using, brand, etc............???
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corsair veangence CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B ddr3 1600, it took ages (well into the night) but I tested each of the 4 sticks the tests did not throw up any errors at all. I have built many PCs going back to 2003 ,but until now memory has allways been accepted and worked at the correct speeds ,this is new to me and I dont have any interest in over clocking ,but the memory I have is reccommended by gigabyte for this board ,surely it should work at stock speed out of box .
so far all I have tried is altering the ram speed (multiplyer) to x8, this shows the ram at 1600 .but when I exit and save I get the warning "fail to boot due to overclocking" it shows the speed as "current ram speed 1333" .if I go back into bios ,its still at what I set it (1600) I am not familiar with overcolocking and dont want to push either ram or processor ,but I bought the kit to have "what it says on the box" no more or less.
are there other safe methods to achieve the rated speed?.
Details off the label are as follows : •SPD Latency: 9-9-9-24 •Tested Latency: 9-9-9-24 •Memory Type: DDR3 •Speed Rating: PC3-12800 (1600MHz) •Tested Speed: 1600Mhz .
do I need to use ganged or unganged is another question . bios are the latest (F3) I still find it strange that on auto ,the bios sets the voltage at 1.600v for 1333 ,and corsair have the voltage listed at 1.500v for the rated 1600.
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Hi Graham,
I have to say that I am at a loss to understand why you are having this issue and as you say, you would expect things to work properly. I am even more confused now as I have just been looking through the User's Manual for your motherboard and it states:
Support for DDR3 1866(O.C.)/1333/1066 MHz memory modules
Nowhere does it mention support for1600MHz RAM and the same goes for the Motherboard's specification on the website here: http://uk.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3817&dl=1#sp
This is made even more confusing as Steve66a has his 1600MHz RAM running fine by just adjusting the Memory clock to X8.00 to reach this.
Have you raised a support ticket with Gigabyte Technical Support? If not I would advise you to do this as it can take them several days to reply, you can do that here. http://ggts.gigabyte.com/tech.asp?ClassID=2&Country=U.K.&SourceWeb=B2C
The best advice I can offer at the present is that you leave the RAM running at the default speed of 1333MHz. That way you can at least use the system and wait and see what advice Tech Support gives about this.
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Typical ,but I fear your right , its possibly not supported ,I have sent an email ticket to gigabyte .
will it run at 1333 ok without compromizing the modules . by running at a lower spec.
I usually just check the motherboard spec ,and get memory from crucial ,never failed .
this time, as I was using a lot (max) memory I thought I would do things right (and being cute) I checked the memory support list ,and choose memory off there assuming as it was on the list that gigabyte had confirmed it was working , incidently crucial also lists 1600 modules for this board .
well, I will wait (probably several days) for a reply from gigabyte and see what they have to say.
thanks again ,and sorry for taking up so much time.
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It does seem strange that these modules are being shown as supported and then failing to run at specified speeds.
I don't know the answer and, when you get a response from Tech Support please let us know the outcome. It could be that there is a newer BIOS in the pipeline to resolve this issue, especially as the FX processors are capable of running RAM up to 1866MHz.
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You get the "failure to boot......", the OS does not load, True? If the OS loads the message is just a warning. 1333 is the standard - I know the dial goes to 11 - BUT......... Try the memory at 8, if the OS loads, reboot - the message should go away
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when I get the warning ,if I click on continue ,OS loads ok and behaves ,but et6 shows the memory at just 1333 anyway ,rebooting brings up the warning continually , if I go back into bios .its set manually at x8 "1600" ...WIERD.
Anyway ,Gigabyte asked me to check the ram was ok ,so a check on each module in slot 1(0) turned up no problems and for the sheer hell of it I ran the ramtest (std) with all 16gb installed and it still showed no errors ,after waiting forever.
I told gigabyte , and this is their reply :
Hi,
Gigabyte bios read the memory SPD value, according to the CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 specification the SPD programmed at 1333MHz. You can try to manually adjust the memory timing and we not guarantee the performance.
? anyone?
corsair claim these modules are ideal for overclocking and 1600 is clearly printed on the module .
so I will try one attempt at manually setting them if someone here with experience "Absic maybe" can spare the time to talk me through it in idiots style .
from the corsair site
Tested Voltage 1.5 .SPD Voltage 1.5 .Speed Rating PC3-12800 (1600MHz) .SPD Speed 1333Mhz .Tested Speed 1600Mhz .Tested Latency 9-9-9-24 .
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recap...being new to the idea of having to setup my memory in bios as opposed to being used to having it work "out of box".
I decided to troll through the bios and see what I have missed.
setting the memory clock to x8 clearly gave errors.
so looking below the memory clock adjustement was DRAM Configuration ,I went into that and saw it set to auto ,I assume that as the spd was set to 1333 by default, it must have been stopping the clock setting ,amazing that the two settings can conflict in this way with no mention of it in the manual ,but I guess you experienced overclockers are used to these settings ,anyway I did not alter anything ,just set it to manual , and Voila the x8 setting is now accepted and works ,pc boots faultlessly and shows up in ET6 as being 1600 at last .
I will give it a few days to make sure everything works fine and mark this as resolved (hopefully )
are there any good ram testing/benchmarking tools out there that can confirm what I am getting?
thanks all especially Absic.
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Should have mentioned there 2 different areas in the bios to set the memory.
Glad you got everything working.
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Hi,
Appologies for digging up an old post but...
I've just assembled a system with the GA-880GMA-USB3 (REV 3.1) and the FX 8120 CPU. I have the exact same issue as the OP: nothing on the monitor and no sound from the system speaker.
Absic suggested the OP flashed the BIOS to F3. As I mentioned, this is the REV 3.1 board. Is this the same thing? in otherwords, should the support already be built in or do I need to flash?
The CPU is supported: http://uk.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=3817 (http://uk.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=3817)
Problem is, I don't have another AMD chip and I am going to be a little cross if I have to go out and buy another CPU just to upgrade the BIOS to support mine!!
I have tried all the usual tricks, removed everything that I can, including all memory, excluding system and cpu fans. No bleeps whatsoever.
Many thanks
W.
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Hi there,
if you have tried everything else then it might be that the board has the F2 BIOS and this is what I would be looking at. Again the best advice is that you either try a CPU supported by the F2 BIOS to see if things then work or, if you do not have access to an appropriate CPU, take it to a local PC shop and ask them to check and flash the BIOS for you.
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Hi,
I purchased an AMD Athon II X2 CPU. It worked straight away. Sure enough, it was F2. I was able to update the BIOS.
I had contacted Gigabyte's support. Four days later they got back to me. They gave me an address (in the UK) to send it back to so they could flash it.
The guy I spoke to in the shop said this is typical AMD behaviour. Apparently Intel lets one update the BIOS without a CPU. I thought the BIOS chip belongs to the mobo, so surely this is Gigabyte's issue? In fact, trying to get ESXi 5.0 to install, I swapped back to the Athon CPU. The BIOS version remained at F3, so the mobo does hold the BIOS info.
I find it unbelievable that Gigabyte say they support a CPU, but ship the mobo in a condition that doesn't support it. If I hadn't gone out and purchased the second CPU, I'd still be waiting... Unacceptable!!! >:(
As a side note, FC4c (Beta) is missing loads of stuff for this mobo.
Many thanks