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Title: Unstable system with Z68X-UD3-B3
Post by: mikk1234 on November 28, 2011, 04:13:20 pm
Soo my system is 3 weeks old and its really unstable. Random shutdowns, restarts, BSODs etc but the wierd part is that event logger or whatever wont log the BSOD or the shutdowns... My system info:

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz
GA Z68X-UD3-B3
ATI 6950HD 1GB
SAMSUNG HD103SJ
SAMSUNG HD321KJ
WDC WD3200JS-22PDB0
8GB DDR3-1333 PC3-10700 ECC Kingston

Can anyone help?
Title: Re: Unstable system with Z68X-UD3-B3
Post by: Dark Mantis on November 28, 2011, 05:36:24 pm
Hi and welcome.

It might help if you added your location to your profile as we would then know where you are and if that could have an effect on your problem. Can you also post your power supply make, age and model along with your keyboard and mouse please ?

Did you check the manufacturer's QVL to see if your memory was compatible with your motherboard before purchase ?

What was the STOP code on the BSODs ?

Are you running a pagefile/swapfile ?
Title: Re: Unstable system with Z68X-UD3-B3
Post by: Gloup_Gloup on November 28, 2011, 05:46:47 pm
Hi mikk1234,  ;)

Welcome to the forum,

Please give a complete infos about your PSU... web link is the best.
Number of rails and amperage for each rail...  8)

Have you tried a clear CMOS? Have you overclocking your CPU or Ram?
Modify the tensions, timing, etc

Have you a mobile device as USB Hard Drive, USB key bootable, etc  connected in USB ports? You remove it before boot on OS system?

Have you add, change or modify software or hardware before BSOD?

Did you keep the error message  displayed on the screen. Give us a infos about this...please.
If a error msg is speedly, take a picture. Or press ''Pause Break'' on keyboard... maybe you have a time for note it on paper or take a picture.

So come back with more infos. Tanks for comprehension.  ;)

Gloup_Gloup
Title: Re: Unstable system with Z68X-UD3-B3
Post by: mikk1234 on November 28, 2011, 05:59:05 pm
My PSU is SeaSonic M12II 620 Bronze 620W ATX12V V2.3 . I have tried to clean CMOS and stuff... BUT i think that this problem started when i plugged my eternal HDD into my PC to copy games and stuff. I have Razer Deathadder and logitech keyboard connected with USB all the time. I havent overclocked anything
Title: Re: Unstable system with Z68X-UD3-B3
Post by: Dark Mantis on November 28, 2011, 06:03:02 pm
You neglected to say how old the PSU is.

If you can try a different keyboard as some Logitech ones are known to give problems on occasion.

What were the BSOD STOP codes ?

What happens if you disconnect the external HDD ?
 
Title: Re: Unstable system with Z68X-UD3-B3
Post by: mikk1234 on November 28, 2011, 06:23:18 pm
You neglected to say how old the PSU is.

If you can try a different keyboard as some Logitech ones are known to give problems on occasion.

What were the BSOD STOP codes ?

What happens if you disconnect the external HDD ?
 

PSU is about 1 month old. I didnt had same problem with the same keyboard on other PC. I dont know the BSOD stop codes since the screen goes completly blank and i found out on the internet that its BSOD so i dontknow really. I dont have external HDD connected at the moment but still same problem but it started when i connected that HDD
Title: Re: Unstable system with Z68X-UD3-B3
Post by: Dark Mantis on November 28, 2011, 07:35:12 pm
You may not have had the problem on the other PC but it could be a compatibility problem with this one.

How does your external hard drive connect ? If it is USB3.0 try disabling that in the BIOS.

If you are to fix this problem you must be ready to try some changes.
Title: Re: Unstable system with Z68X-UD3-B3
Post by: mikk1234 on November 28, 2011, 07:38:11 pm
HDD has USB 2.0 not 3.0
Title: Re: Unstable system with Z68X-UD3-B3
Post by: Dark Mantis on November 28, 2011, 07:41:27 pm
Did you check the manufacturer's QVL to see if your memory was compatible with your motherboard before purchase ?

Are you running a pagefile/swapfile ?
Title: Re: Unstable system with Z68X-UD3-B3
Post by: mikk1234 on November 28, 2011, 08:18:11 pm
I didnt check the memory... and i dont know where can i see that pagefile or something
Title: Re: Unstable system with Z68X-UD3-B3
Post by: Dark Mantis on November 28, 2011, 08:24:59 pm
That's fine regarding the swapfile then as if you don't know where it is you are not likely to have disabled it!

If you can give me the full part numbers of the memory modules I will check them against the QVL for you. I take it they were purchased as a matching kit ?
Title: Re: Unstable system with Z68X-UD3-B3
Post by: mikk1234 on November 28, 2011, 08:32:40 pm
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator_new/partsinfo.asp?root=&LinkBack=&ktcpartno=KVR1333D3E9SK2/8GI
Title: Re: Unstable system with Z68X-UD3-B3
Post by: Dark Mantis on November 28, 2011, 08:40:04 pm
It would seem to be that the memory is your problem. For a start it is ECC. What made you purchase that in particular ?

These are NOT compatible.

The modules that are compatible with your motherboard you can find here:

http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator_new/modelsinfo.asp?SysID=71859&mfr=Gigabyte&model=GA&search_type=&root=uk&LinkBack=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kingston.com%2Fukroot&Sys=71859-Gigabyte-GA-Z68X-UD3-B3+Motherboard&distributor=0&submit1=Search
Title: Re: Unstable system with Z68X-UD3-B3
Post by: mikk1234 on November 28, 2011, 08:53:35 pm
Well can you recommend any memorys?;) And i bought them because in the store they told me that those memorys would work on that motherboard... Atm i looking at http://www.elara.ie/productdetail.aspx?productcode=GCE11837 but recommend something good for me ^^
Title: Re: Unstable system with Z68X-UD3-B3
Post by: Dark Mantis on November 28, 2011, 09:00:42 pm
I have used a lot of the Corsair Vengeance 1600 modules and they seem to work with just about anything. Corsair makes some of the best memory around and you will find a lot of it used on the forum. You can go and find the correct ones here :

http://www.corsair.com/learn_n_explore/

Just enter your motherboard model ( GA Z68X-UD3-B3 ) and it should take you to them.
Title: Re: Unstable system with Z68X-UD3-B3
Post by: mikk1234 on November 28, 2011, 09:16:43 pm
Ok now im thinking of

CMX8GX3M2A1600C9   DDR3-1600 (XMS3-9-9-9-24*1.65v) Dual Channel   8GB Kit (2 x 4GB)   1.65v   9-9-9-24-2T
or
CMX8GX3M2B1600C9   DDR3-1600 (XMS3-9-9-9-24*1.5v) Dual Channel    8GB Kit (2 x 4GB)   1.5v   9-9-9-24-2T


Whats the diffrence between 1.66v and 1.5v
Title: Re: Unstable system with Z68X-UD3-B3
Post by: Gloup_Gloup on November 28, 2011, 10:52:00 pm
Hi mikk1234,  ;)

The difference is util if you overcloking the CPU and (or) the Ram,
Because when you oc, you adjust a tensions and volts.
So if the Ram have a possibility to up 1.65, this is the best.

But in normal situation, 24h 7day, the Ram is ajusted to 1.5 volts, sometimes 1.45, 1.40 volts. Especially with Sandy Bridge CPU.

We must not forget that Sandy Bridge CPU has one memory controller.

In normal time, the objectives are to have less tension and therefore less the heat to be dissipated by the memory.

When you overclock the ram, there is more heat and of course, we must not damaged the memory.

Glouup_Gloup
Title: Re: Unstable system with Z68X-UD3-B3
Post by: Dark Mantis on November 29, 2011, 07:24:33 am
For the SandyBridge chipset, which is the one you have, I would advise the 1.5v as that is the standard setting and will run with less heat. This voltage is what I use on my SandyBridge board. The 4GB sticks are the best in the "bang per buck" at the moment so I would advise a matched kit of two of these if you want somewhere around 8GB total it is easier to setup than four 2GB modules too.

CMX8GX3M2B1600C9   DDR3-1600 (XMS3-9-9-9-24*1.5v) Dual Channel    8GB Kit (2 x 4GB)   1.5v   9-9-9-24-2T

Was there any reason you went for these as opposed to the Corsair Vengeance modules ?
Title: Re: Unstable system with Z68X-UD3-B3
Post by: mikk1234 on November 29, 2011, 10:50:30 am
Okay my mistake i found out that i dont have that ECC ram. I have http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator_new/partsinfo.asp?root=uk&LinkBack=http://www.kingston.com/ukroot&ktcpartno=KVR1333D3N9/2G 8 gigs of that. Also noticed that when i go to my computer and go into that WD drive then my pc does like a jet engine starting sound or something its like 2 hard drives (WD and Samsung 320gb drives) are sleeping or whatever and when i click on them they start up
Title: Re: Unstable system with Z68X-UD3-B3
Post by: Dark Mantis on November 29, 2011, 10:57:29 am
I am sorry but are you now saying that you don't have the original modules but have these new modules instead ?

If so these new sticks are compatible with your motherboard so I can only suggest that you follow these instructions to see if they are all working alright:

Please follow these instructions exactly.

I would suggest that you download and run the latest version of  Memtest86+ to check your RAM first.

Memtest86+        http://www.memtest.org/

Insert one stick of memory in slot 1 and run Memtest on it for at least 10 complete loops/cycles and if there are no errors then swap it over with the next one and continue untill you have checked all  modules.
 
If you have any errors the module is faulty.

If you have any faulty modules you will have to return the whole kit as they are matched.

Post back when you have done that with the results.
Title: Re: Unstable system with Z68X-UD3-B3
Post by: mikk1234 on November 29, 2011, 02:16:29 pm
Ok so i tested every stick and 0 errors...
Title: Re: Unstable system with Z68X-UD3-B3
Post by: Dark Mantis on November 29, 2011, 03:23:37 pm
That was quick indeed!
Title: Re: Unstable system with Z68X-UD3-B3
Post by: mikk1234 on November 29, 2011, 03:30:27 pm
Okay so i took out that WD hard drive from my PC and soo far no problems but i keep testing and i will report back here if any problems come up again but its really wierd if that Hard Drive did all that...
Title: Re: Unstable system with Z68X-UD3-B3
Post by: Dark Mantis on November 29, 2011, 04:12:11 pm
it wouldn't be the first time such things happened. We have had several recently of keyboards being the culprits and they are usually the last thing people think of.
Title: Re: Unstable system with Z68X-UD3-B3
Post by: mikk1234 on November 29, 2011, 06:00:47 pm
Well what was the problem lol WDC WD3200JS-22PDB0 this hard drive http://www.pacificgeek.com/product.asp?id=42433 is it too slow or too old or w/e i dont even remember when i got it
Title: Re: Unstable system with Z68X-UD3-B3
Post by: mikk1234 on November 30, 2011, 11:02:22 am
ok still got same problem.. sound get stuck looping 1 bit or BSOD but action centre wont log the event
Title: Re: Unstable system with Z68X-UD3-B3
Post by: mikk1234 on November 30, 2011, 03:43:45 pm
any help?...