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Title: gigabyte G31M-S2L two problems
Post by: Citadeliar2222 on May 09, 2012, 01:04:07 pm
i have on it  

intel core 2 duo 2x2.27ghz
2gb goodram memory
ati radeon  hd 4670 512mb  
sound blaster 5.1  
network card - edimax
power supply   cheftec 550w

problem is with soundcard its on ubuntu  and windows.    when i install windows/ubuntu and install drivers for chipset etc.  then get soundcard drivers  , sound works  for  time from 2minutes to up 2 hours and then suddenly is gone  no error no change in device management   audio service for windows restarted and no effect - sound not work anymore. i  uninstalled card and  used integrated  soundcard realteg   got the drivers and install , problem is identical   sound disappear after some time whatever i do...

i have bios  f10 beta for gigabyte .  chipset  and other rivers installed  lates could be found
im using windows vista ultimate..

only to get sound back is reboot computer and  then again sound is gone...

i have try

1. change soundcard pci slot to other pci
2. replaced alll capacitors on motherboard same as roginal
3. changed psu unit to  fresh one
4.  replaced ram memory
5. try  other sound cards

 there is problem with integrated network card ,  network connection lost  in random times, on pci card  network never disconnects..
my gigabyte motherboard  varranty finished  2 years ago.

configuration is orginal no overclocking computer is used for programming in delphi
Title: Re: giigabyte G31M S2L two problems
Post by: Citadeliar2222 on May 09, 2012, 02:48:21 pm
cpu temperature is 27c   in strexx  49
gpu temperature  40c  in stress    55c
chipset temperature about 30c

computer hangs  in random times  sometimes  i computer   hangup in bios menu.
ubuntu also gets  hangs...

psu voltages  with multimete check

12v  - 12,04v 
5v     - 4,97v
3,3v  - 3,2v

in stress 12v is  about 11,94v  4,91v  3,3v 
Title: Re: giigabyte G31M S2L two problems
Post by: Fatman on May 10, 2012, 12:53:18 am
Those Voltages seem fine..........Try disabling onboard audio in bios and uninstalling the drivers for it then install your drivers for your sound card.
Title: Re: giigabyte G31M S2L two problems
Post by: Fatman on May 10, 2012, 12:57:29 am
You have to remember one thing here, that is we are not Gigabyte tech support. We are just the end users like yourself! We are no way affiliated with Gigabyte whatsoever! We are enthusiasts who try to help people like yourself and at times need help as well.

So if you have a grievance with Gigabyte and it's products, TAKE IT UP WITH THEM DIRECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not here!
Title: Re: giigabyte G31M S2L two problems
Post by: Citadeliar2222 on May 10, 2012, 01:26:39 am
onboard soundcard was disabled drivers removed by ccleaner.     . i  contacted gigabyte tech support and they  recommend buy new motherboard  OMG.. ii know you all are end users. but thats not first problem with this  gigabyte. i had  seven  g31m s2l  two g31m es2l   four  died  by  capacitors  one by  chipset burn  another few mosphets  blew up.  the  es2l just  end up in smoke another one  smoked aswell but not chipset next time was realtek audio chip :S
Title: Re: giigabyte G31M S2L two problems
Post by: Citadeliar2222 on May 13, 2012, 09:59:46 am
so how to fix this  heavy issue?? any idea  to do something?  what can cause sound to disapppear like that?   chipset damage or what?
Title: Re: giigabyte G31M S2L two problems
Post by: absic on May 13, 2012, 03:21:37 pm
Hi there,

I don't know the exact cause of the problem but I encountered a similar issue on both an AMD and intel system when I was trying to dual boot with Windows and Ubuntu with nothing showing in device manager to show a problem.

In exasperation, I used a spare HDD and did a clean install of Windows and didn't have further issues I then did the same with Ubuntu and again the problem didn't occur. As soon as I tried to dual boot the problem returned. Therefore I assumed it was an incompatibility issue between the two OS's rather than a hardware issue.

Have you tried a clean install of just one of the OS's to see if the problem still occurs?
Title: Re: giigabyte G31M S2L two problems
Post by: Citadeliar2222 on May 13, 2012, 05:06:28 pm
i tell steps i did

1.   replaced  processor  intel core 2 quad with  intel core 2 duo , i buy another intel core 2 duo processor too
2.  replaced memory  stick and try  two slots
3.  changed pci slot for  sound card  , planted it in  first pci and then in next pci
4. formatted hard disk and  decided to keep only one syste - windows vista
5.  changed  irq assigments in bios  
6. changed psu unit  
7.  bios was upgraded to 10f , t degraded to 9f and then upgraded again to 10f.
8  i try  different soundcard

before that i had ubuntu and windows,   on both  was this issue.  but  removing one  OS not solved it.  im back to vista after  formatting hard disk and what? sound dont want work still.

i got info from other user by pm that  g31m s2l motherboard series  are fatal?

i  redescribe issue again maybe something can be done?

i install windows
first chipset drivers then  network/sound card drivers  and vga driver.  - computer is reboot
after  reboot i get winamp to run some music, few tracks are played and winamp suddenly stop play. when i try play again progress bar is not moving
this is happening on windows media player  , gom player and vlc media player. on youtube i get no sound on other  movie websites  same..

SOUND RETURN  for short time  after i take computer from  halt or hibernation or i just simply push reset button..  sound is living for only  from two mintues up to 2 - 3 hours max,  mainly soun stop working   about 10 - 15 minutes sometimes go  out at 21 27minutes...

sound is  doing same issue  on both  realtek integrated sound card or pci   sound blaster 5.1 sb live .. i try  ever other sound cards an  no effect.  try other pci slot and notthing , sound still is  going away

i check hardware - no swollen capacitors no burn signs no smell of anything. evryhthing is connected properly
memtest and gold memory give no errors
cpu temperature is normal  27c  when in max use  49    sometimes reach 51 or 53 no more.
system sounds not play

Title: Re: giigabyte G31M S2L two problems
Post by: Fatman on May 14, 2012, 10:47:59 am
What have you got it connected too? (Sound system wise)
Title: Re: giigabyte G31M S2L two problems
Post by: Citadeliar2222 on May 14, 2012, 02:39:07 pm
i have   two  speakers   samsung with subwwoofer , before  that i had    speakers  from phillips  they are compatable with my sound card  as they worked for three years!    since problem started i replaced with samsung and problem still is.. headphones not work aswell  but  only microphone works after sound death- i can hear breath in speaker
Title: Re: giigabyte G31M S2L two problems
Post by: Fatman on May 14, 2012, 11:45:47 pm
Ok so with a sound blaster card installed have you disabled onboard sound in bios? Even though it maybe set to auto, there could be a slight chance there is a hardware conflict. You didn't say when you uninstalled the drivers for the soundblaster whether or not you actually removed it from the board whilst testing it....

As a last resort you could reload Windows and NOT install the audio drivers for your board. But as a last resort only.
Title: Re: giigabyte G31M S2L two problems
Post by: Citadeliar2222 on May 15, 2012, 10:13:50 am
i did disable integrated sound card in bios and remove drivers for it -   sound still disappears
i removed  pci card  and  enabled in bios integrated sound card  removed  drivers for  sound blaster - sound still disappears
i removed   network card for pci and drivers and enabled integrated networks but network go down sama s sound  in random times,  it  stay connected but no data transfer.

device manager dont give any   conflict warnings when both card aree  working. ever if one of them too. .
 
i have did other thing  .. enabled integrated sound card and  plugged  sound blaster. in windows i disapled integrated sound card and  used  the sound blaster, when sound did disappear from system i disable sound blaster and enable  integrated one - same result , when i restarted system i try vice versa and result was same.


when sound is dead i can still use microphone i can hear my breath in speaker ..  i have notd one thing - when sound disappear whatever from soundblaster or integrated -  winamp dont want to  work , track progress bar wont go when press play . same for windows media player and others, formatting hard disk do not helps i have try  this.
Title: Re: giigabyte G31M S2L two problems
Post by: Fatman on May 15, 2012, 11:37:00 am
RMA the board.
Title: Re: giigabyte G31M S2L two problems
Post by: Citadeliar2222 on May 15, 2012, 12:54:39 pm
motherboard has about 4 years! .   and  how to  do  RMA from poland?
Title: Re: giigabyte G31M S2L two problems
Post by: Citadeliar2222 on May 17, 2012, 10:27:07 pm
how can RMA  board if its varrany  gone long ago.  i want to fix it but need to know what item must replace
Title: Re: giigabyte G31M S2L two problems
Post by: Citadeliar2222 on May 21, 2012, 01:33:01 am
i have try last  thing..

run both integrated sound card and  pci sound card..  two different speaker set  and  started the music, first  it disappear from integrated sound cad, then short time later from  pci sound card.   i  know electronics stuff and i can replace damaged component,  but i need to know what one shall replace?
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found third thing.. cannot use  drivers for integrated realtek network card  downloaded from gigabyte website or  from  motherboard CD disk.. only windows vista   network drivers  works with no problem.  if i try  drivers from two different sources  my  netork card canot keep connection.   on pci card issue is same.  i have replaced  capacitors  on cpu section and near chipset also small capacitor near soun card and these capcitors near  memory bank

 bios battery was normal but i replaced it anyway.

Title: Re: giigabyte G31M S2L two problems
Post by: Citadeliar2222 on May 22, 2012, 06:48:10 pm
can someone answer???
Title: Re: giigabyte G31M S2L two problems
Post by: Citadeliar2222 on May 24, 2012, 01:40:29 pm
noone answer? please  requesting asistance  need to fix my issue
Title: Re: giigabyte G31M S2L two problems
Post by: Citadeliar2222 on June 01, 2012, 10:20:33 am
bump on top..  problem still need to solve... n oticed only one thing - sound  keep working longer if i    use liquid nitrogen on  both north and south bridge
Title: Re: giigabyte G31M S2L two problems
Post by: Citadeliar2222 on June 02, 2012, 03:13:05 pm
anyone can answer? please
Title: Re: giigabyte G31M S2L two problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on June 03, 2012, 10:04:49 am
Hi

I am not sure exactly what you have tried so far but I would suggest a couple of things. Firstly disable the Azalia Codec in the BIOS to make sure that the onboard sound element doesn't cut in.

Next don't dual boot with Ubunto and Windows, often they don't get on well. Use two seperate drives if you must have them both installed.

Make sure that the Creative sound card that you have has the latest drivers for your OS. The card is by no means up to date so it could be an outdated driver issue.
Title: Re: giigabyte G31M S2L two problems
Post by: Citadeliar2222 on June 04, 2012, 05:02:12 pm
machine  is running both ubuntu and windows and  the issue is still exsisting.  ubuntu dont want sometimes boot if any of  sound cards is in use .
in desperate act i deleted ubuntu and run only windows. i noticed one thing -- when i put whole computer with opened  box into  opened window  all temperatures go down  because its cold at nights - sound  is playing longer time.  howewer  i found the elements   R20 2R1 or something they might be  coils , they alwasy were warm  but  they are not reason  as were replaced.

i have did disable  azalia codec in bios and started to use pci sound card - sound  still keep  go away. i try update drivers but no effect
i noted another thing , when i try use drivers for network card from  my  gigabyte CD,  network goes crazy connections are  lost  timed out , huge ping  rates . when i use windiws built-in network drivers all is working fine . same for pci network card. cannot use cd drivers .

i try do same for  azalia codec - use built-in windows drivers  but no way sound goes away..  windows has no drivers for  soundblaster..

finally  sound still goes away. cant use  azalia codec and pci card.  also sound is disappearing  when using usb sound card ,  anyway computer hang up often if any of  sound-cards is  online.  hanup signs is  hard disk bulb  lighting  at max power of light ,  mouse cursor goes  rotating wheel  windows  refuse to  execut ctrl-alt-delete  finally mouse stop to ever move and only reset button helps.  if i disable both sound cards computer still hang up but in about 8 - 10 hours...

i contacted  the gigabyte tech support and they  recommend buy new gigabyte motherboard.   they refuse to  RMA as  varranty is long time over and  repair is pointless.

i am decided to repair  it  because no funds for new one .
Title: Re: giigabyte G31M S2L two problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on June 04, 2012, 08:50:06 pm

i noted another thing , when i try use drivers for network card from  my  gigabyte CD,  network goes crazy connections are  lost  timed out , huge ping  rates .
 

I am not at all surprised that you have a lot of problems when using the drivers from your motherboard CD. The board and CD are both very old now and even when new it is advisable to download the latest drivers rather than use the included ones.

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i am decided to repair  it  because no funds for new one

I am afraid that it is probably false economy to repair the board as the costs involved would most likely add up to more than a new version of it. Sometimes we just have to bite the bullet and start afresh.
Title: Re: giigabyte G31M S2L two problems
Post by: Citadeliar2222 on June 04, 2012, 09:56:53 pm
my funds are very very little and cannot afford  new motherboard atm. . i know there must be something to do with temperature because sound work long time when computer is exposed to  opened window, if i close it  then sound  is  disappearing short  after.  i tried to us  some thermalmeters but   results are 

49c for   the r12 and 2r0  components (they are coils)
south bridge    51c
north bridge  44
processor     35c

mosphets near processor  have  about 40c

i try  get down the temperature of  south bridge  with bigger fan but still notthing , as sound keep going out it still does that

i checked bios settings and all on M.I.T are set to auto.  i try to  get  memory  timign set to lower from auto. but notthing. i try  increase  voltages for fsb  and vcore but notthing so i put them back to normal.

i tried to  downgrade bios to older versions but also notthing helped...  using latest drivers also does not solve problem.
Title: Re: gigabyte G31M-S2L two problems
Post by: runn3R on June 06, 2012, 04:29:13 pm
Hi Citadeliar2222

You have placed strong accusations in this post (http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,35.msg70290.html#msg70290). Really hard to believe.
I have forwarded your case to our RMA and support center in Poland, please expect contact from their side.

P.S. Please don't use "bump to top" posts here as it does not make any sense. I have deleted majority of them. Thanks for your understanding.
Title: Re: gigabyte G31M-S2L two problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on June 07, 2012, 12:18:31 pm
Sorry if I missed all the "bump" posts runn3R as I should have deleted them myself but have been extremely busy recently and so not spending as much time as I would like to on the forum.
Title: Re: gigabyte G31M-S2L two problems
Post by: Citadeliar2222 on June 07, 2012, 03:55:30 pm
its not accussing as this happened to my friend.i have did  talked him  that he  have gigabyte product and that happened to him - but he wanted me to describe what happened.  dont blame me for posting this.  he was sending his mb to  RMA and wass returning  not working  - he did buy it in germany but live in poland,  he sent it to germany again and again. and repairs were good but  were working  for short time  . after one of returns after repair some components after touch just fall off MB.. good  RMA service would not do that - after these events he just decided to take mb to local repair service where they  fix all issues and MB was back to life, in fact he did had to pay for new  components as  the present  were no way to be used again.

my issue was different and i have notthing agaist  gigabyte RMA, howewer i  tried  to get  RMA help ever if pay to repair. but instead of  reanimating  i just decided to  buy another , the repair is pointless as would pay  twice  for repair while could for that price get 2 MB.
if anyone was hurt - did not wanted to do it. im sorry for that   that what happened was just true and just gave opinion not accusing

about the  "bad"   RMA ... most of  RMA services do  best to repair MB and ever check it several times before send it back all is okay .. but sometimes  can happen  bad  things and that event happened to my friend  some weeks ago