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Questions about GIGABYTE products => Motherboards with Intel processors => Topic started by: Goose997 on December 28, 2015, 02:27:18 pm
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Dear all
I have a Z97X-Gaming 3 (BIOS Rev F6) with a Samsung 950 PRO NVMe M.2 SSD installed. I run Windows 10 with the Samsung NVMe driver.
The benchmark with the Samsung Magician software indicates only a read speed of 417 MB/s and write of 391 MB/s, which is far away from the theoretical 2500 MB/s read and 1500 MB/s write speeds. The Magician software shows that the link speed is 2.5 Gb/s vs a max of 10 Gb/s, and the link width is x2, vs a max of x4.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Goose
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The thing is by what I'm reading the board doesn't really support NVMe drives. That is maybe why your are only getting those readings. The X99 & Z170 boards are the only ones that support those drives.
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The thing is by what I'm reading the board doesn't really support NVMe drives. That is maybe why your are only getting those readings. The X99 & Z170 boards are the only ones that support those drives.
hi, I am not sure.
If I look at the official specs (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5383#sp (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5383#sp)), it states:
M.2, SATA Express, and SATA3 4/5 connectors can only be used one at a time. The SATA3 4/5 connectors will become unavailable when an M.2 SSD is installed.
Giving up 2 SATA3 ports should provide enough bandwidth?
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If you don't have one of these Bios update or in the listing NVMe support it doesn't support sorry. The Z97 board doesn't list any where it supports it. They might come out with a bios update but at this time no support. Yes it will run but not at the right speed.
X99
F12 8.17 MB 2015/01/29 Support future NVMe SSD drive
Z170
http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5497&dl=1#ov
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If you don't have one of these Bios update or in the listing NVMe support it doesn't support sorry. The Z97 board doesn't list any where it supports it. They might come out with a bios update but at this time no support. Yes it will run but not at the right speed.
hi dmdilks
You are a lot more knowledgeable on these than I am. I made the mistake of believing this press release: http://www.gigabyte.co.za/press-center/news-page.aspx?nid=1358 (http://www.gigabyte.co.za/press-center/news-page.aspx?nid=1358) where the BIOS was listed as compatible. Well, next time I will know better.
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Don't feel bad I too have made some mistake and not really reading everything. As I have learn you learn from your mistake. But the good thing about this is when you do decide to upgrade you already have the drive. Plus I know this isn't the same drive but here some of my #'s.
Windows 7 raid drives.
(http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq161/dmdilks/SSDTest_zps0a74bc19.png)
Windows 10 M.2 drive
(http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq161/dmdilks/as-ssd-bench%20Crucial_CT250MX2%2012.18.2015%202-17-45%20AM_zpstbh0chg4.png)
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Sorry to jump in on this thread but is there any Turbo software available for your M.2 drives?
I'm running a Plextor M.2 drive on my GA-Z97X-UD5 (Review here: http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php?topic=14703.0 ) and I am using Plextor's Turbo Boost software that utilizes some of the system RAM. As you can see I am getting some very good figures. My original review can be found here: http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php?topic=14710.0 for the Plextor M.2 drive
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/633/xjt9G0.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/hlxjt9G0j)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/907/a5xQvg.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/p7a5xQvgj)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/908/8Or683.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/p88Or683j)
Results vary over the various bench marking software and I know that using RAM in the way that the Turbo Boost does, will improve the figures considerably but, even without the Turbo software I was getting pretty good figures.
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Sorry to jump in on this thread but is there any Turbo software available for your M.2 drives?
Don't be sorry absic you are welcome to any thread. That is why we are here to help and give some body as much info we can. Plus I'm running one those drives (Plextor PCIe M2 SSD 128-gb)
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Hi Goose997,
I decided to reply since I'm - almost - in the same situation as you are.
I have a Samsung SM951 256GB m.2 SSD installed on the Gigabyte Z97X Gaming 3, the SSD works in NVMe since I have the latest avaiable BIOS (F7) and I can boot Windows 10x64 out of it without issues. However I'm limited (and I have checked it using Sandra) to pci-ex x2 and my atto benchmark results are capped. I tried looking for possible solutions but actually I found none. I suppose x2 is the default speed for m.2 pci-ex SSDs, and since Samsung 951 doesn't figure in the compatibility list it's probably set like that. At this point we can only hope Gigabyte will add both our M2 SSds to the compatibility matrix and enable x4 on them accordingly...
Happy new Year :)
K.
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If you don't have one of these Bios update or in the listing NVMe support it doesn't support sorry. The Z97 board doesn't list any where it supports it. They might come out with a bios update but at this time no support. Yes it will run but not at the right speed.
X99
F12 8.17 MB 2015/01/29 Support future NVMe SSD drive
Z170
http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5497&dl=1#ov
Could we use a PCI-E-4 adapter, like the LyCOM DT-120, to get nvme to work full speed on this motherboard?
LyCOM DT-120
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Hi, I need help.
Does GA-Z97X-Gaming 7 support Samsung 950 PRO PCIe NVMe M.2 ??
Will I get a maximum work speed of ssd?
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The OP is having a problem with speeds. Your board vs his board about the same. So you be able to run it by what he has said but you will not get the speeds out of it.
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The OP is having a problem with speeds. Your board vs his board about the same. So you be able to run it by what he has said but you will not get the speeds out of it.
Thank you!
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I wonder is NVMe a driver issue or is it component for it?
couse there must be a way if this is just softwear related issue.
just make a note to Gigabyte Dev to make Bios update on NVMe for this Board.
or if it's really a component issue then we are kinda screwed on that one.
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Greetings Hektor2000,
I believe this comes down to hardware support via BIOS implementation. I have a Z97 based board as well. The chipset was released on the cusp of x2-x4 transition. I'm not expecting full speed NvME x4 support. My RAID cold boots W10 in 8 or 9 secs. Plenty fast for me. 8)
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Hi Everyone,
Thanks for your feedback it helped me a lot. ;)
Like Goose997, I'm about to buy SSD nvme 960 EVO.
My current dear mom is : Z97X-Gaming 3 (BIOS Rev F7).
Remind :
I know, there is limited speed because of the M.2 slot can only provide 2 Lanes at PCIe 2.0 speed (2*5 GT/s = Up to 10GB/s transfer speed)
If I use a PCIe adapter card my M.2 NVME SSD can use x4 PCIe 2.0 Lanes of the chipset with (4*5 GT/s = Up to 20Gb/s transfer speed).
Do you know the difference speed between embedded port M.2 and PCI express card ? - for answering to 'pauleden' above :
Could we use a PCIE-4 adapter to get nvme to work at better speed than the embedded m.2 port on this motherboard?
Depending on the difference I'm ready to buy a PCIE card 3.0 x4 lanes. What do you think ?
Of course I will let you know the results.
Q1 : Which PCIe card brand do you advise me ?
Q2 : Which port should I plug this card ? PCIEX4 (I know all other PCIE x1 will be disable, but don't care 8) )
Regards.
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Greetings,
I doubt you will get x4 speeds, even if you install with adapter in x4 slot. It been a while, but I seem to recall others trying this unsuccessfully. Not only did they not get full speeds, but they also couldn't boot from the m.2. MVMe is not "officially" supported in the BIOS.
I did see a thread with a guy offering a modded BIOS with support, but I use my Z97 as a daily driver so wouldn't risk using a modded BIOS myself.
If you do embark on this endeavor, please post your results. There are some here who are always curious about these things.
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Hi everyone,
So topic solved. After reading several documentation and review, please find below all my tests ;)
Shadowsports, of course the SSD samsung EVO 960 can't get the full speed on this mobo (PCIE gen 2.0 x4 lanes) ; but it's largely enough for my need actually.
Config Test :
Mom : GA-Z97x Gaming 3 - rev 1.0 - Bios rev F7
CPU : Intel Core I5 4570 @3.20GHz
Memory : 2x4Go Kingston DDR3 1600MHz
GPU: GTX 1060 STRIX-OC - Still in PCIE v3.0 16x lanes for Test 1 & 2 (GPU-z Check)
Test 1:
- SSD EVO 960 plugged on the embedded M.2 Port mobo.
- Remind M.2 : PCIE gen 2.0 x2 lanes.
(http://imageshack.com/a/img923/3029/7wkbPN.png)
Test 2:
- SSD EVO 960 pluggeg on the PCIEX4 (the last one c.f Gigabyte doc)
- Card : ASUS HYPER M.2 X4 MINI CARD -> Cute cos mini :o, gen 3.0 (we never know) and compatible with Z97 chipset (which I guess is bull*hit)
- Remind PCIEX4 on this mobo is : PCIE gen 2.0 x4 lanes.
(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/9472/wG2bDi.png)
How to boot in it and install win10 on PCIEX card :
- SATA Mode Selection : AHCI
- PCIE Slot Configuration (PCH) : Forced x4
- CSM Support : Always
- Windows 8 Features : Win8
- Natively recognize by windows 10 during the installation (of course later install Samsung NVMe Controller Driver)
Here you are, I hope this test will help you to find the config which suit you the best :)
But for 20$ Asus card and natively support by the F7 bios / Win10 .... com'on guys :) :) :)
I guess I could as well plugged the card on PCIEX8 (Gigabyte doc), but I'll downgrade my GTX 1060 x16 to x8.
Can I plug it here anyway, it will work ?
Regards.
Reference :
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboard-Accessory/HYPER_M2_X4_MINI_CARD/
https://regmedia.co.uk/2014/05/21/intel_9_series_chipset_z97_overview.jpg
http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_ga-z97x-gaming7_e.pdf
http://download.intel.com/support/ssdc/hpssd/sb/nvme_boot_guide_332098001us.pdf (be careful it was for win7/8)
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Nice.! Seems later BUOS adds some compatibility. Nice of you to post your results for others who want to invest in this hardware with their current platform.