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Title: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: Barracuda on May 17, 2010, 03:23:21 pm
Has anyone been able to successfully put 8GB of RAM in this motherboard yet. If so could you specifiy what type and if any modifications were needed, I have tried Corsair which was listed on the QVL in the manual but it did not work and I did update the BIOS with one stick of RAM first but still did not work. Prosessor in AMD Phenom 2 x4 955 Quad Core.  Appreciate any help.
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: absic on May 17, 2010, 03:42:43 pm
Hi,

When you say it isn't working can you expand the problem a little?

Does the PC boot?
Does the system run but then BSOD?
Is it a problem with timings?

After updating BIOS did you remember to load Optimized Defaults?

Could you also post full details of the memory that you are using (make, voltage, timings etc.) along with full system specs as this will help with troubleshooting.

Thanks
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: Barracuda on May 22, 2010, 03:03:09 pm
Thanks for the reply,
     The CPU will not boot up with all four of the memory sticks in place. if I take out the memeory stick in slot #2 then the CPU will boot up normally. The memory sticks are ( CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model CMX8GX3M4A1333C9 ).  All the RAM will work if tried individually as long as the #2 slot is not in use, I can place up to three sticks in the CPU and it works as long as the second blue slot is not in use.   The RAM is listed in the QVL for the Motherboard.  Not sure about the timings or the optimized defaults I have not tried either of those yet.
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: absic on May 22, 2010, 04:26:41 pm
Hi,

Sounds as if you have a faulty memory channel on the Mobo. I would RMA the board.

ATB
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: Barracuda on May 23, 2010, 02:48:15 am
Thanks for the reply,
     This is the third mobo i have tried with 2 different types of RAM. Same problem with each Mobo and RAM.  If you like I can list all parts but I feel it is not a MOBO problem. Any other suggestions? Thanks again for the help.
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: absic on May 23, 2010, 07:44:56 am
Hi,

Didn't realise it was your THIRD board with same problem and SECOND set of memory, ouch!

OK, as I say: Never give up; Never Surrender!

If you could list all parts it would help, just to see if there is something that jumps out.
Also reset BIOS to optimised Defaults, if there is a problem, doing this will give a good starting position for further trouble shooting.

I had an issue yesterday when I replaced my CPU which turned out to be something VERY basic but I only discovered this after stripping the PC down, replacing the Graphics card removing all the HDD's and practically re-building the machine twice, only to discover that the 8 pin power lead had come lose when I had moved the chassis...... Oooops did I feel like an idiot! :-[

ATB

Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: Barracuda on May 24, 2010, 07:32:02 pm
Thanks for the reply,
     
I set BIOS to optimised defaults with 2 sticks of RAM inserted for dual channel operation and had no problems booting and running CPU. Next i tried to boot with adding RAM to 2nd blue slot but would not show screen and I tred all sticks of RAM in the slot to make sure no RAM was faulty.  My components are (ASUS EAH5830 DIRECTCU/2DIS/1GD5 Radeon HD 5830 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity),  (AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor),  (COOLER MASTER Silent Pro RSA00-AMBAJ3-US 1000W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.92 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply), ( Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive).  Any other suggestions? Thanks.

Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: wigglytoes on May 25, 2010, 04:39:22 am
This is just my experience - I have no answers
I'm in the process of building a system
MB - GA-890GPA-UD3h rev 1
Memory   4x2GB  Corsair Dominator DDR3    1333 PC3 10666    CMD8GX3M4A1333C7 
(So we have almost the exact same setup)

When I first attempted to boot, it wouldn't even post.
After Gigabyte support asked what beep codes I had, I grabbed a case speaker off an old
machine, and found that I was getting 3 long beeps.     Gigabyte couldn't actually say that
3 long beeps means memory problem, but they pointed me that way. 
I started pulling memory and trying the different sticks in the slot closest to the CPU.
I immediately started getting the computer to post.  So I thought that I had a bad stick.
Yet, I also tried putting all the sticks back in, and it worked???   
This, of course, sounds like a seating problem.   But I don't buy that.  I'm very careful that
I snap memory all the way in.    So what happened??   Your guess is as good as mine.
I just know but I suspect either very fickle memory or very fickle MB.

Sorry that I'm no help.   Since my advice is to just keep reseating the memory until it works.
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: Barracuda on May 25, 2010, 07:50:48 am
Thanks for the reply wigglytoes,
     I have replaced the RAM many times and feel positive that i seated the RAM properly over the course of 3 mobo's and 2 sets of RAM and all the time spent putting RAM into different slots to see if they were faulty or not and the RAM works in all slots except the second blue slot on all three mobo's.  I would still like to know if anyone has installed 8GB's of RAM into one of these mobo's yet. Once again thanks for the posts and appreciate any help offered.
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: MK on August 09, 2010, 11:36:25 pm
I am having the exact same issue.  Did you ever find a resolution?

I have tried two different brands of memory - two different mobos - same trouble each time.  Cannot get POST with memory installed in SLOT 2 AND / OR SLOT 4.
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 09, 2010, 11:48:39 pm
Firstly make sure you run the memory in unganged mode and at 1333 speed. Secondly run the latest update for the BIOS.
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: MK on August 10, 2010, 01:51:47 am
Dark Mantis... thank you for replying.

I have booted the system in unganged mode at 1333 speed with success using 2 GB in slot 1, or 2 GB in slot 3, or 4 GB (2 in slot 1 and 2 in slot 3).  I am running the most current BIOS.

The system will not post with memory installed in slot 2 or slot 4 - regardless of BIOS settings.

I have tried two different brands of memory (first Patriot 1333 and now on Kingston 1800).  No difference.

I have tried two different mobos - same result on both.  Any other ideas?
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: absic on August 10, 2010, 07:55:17 am
You don't say what model CPU you are using but, try pulling the RAM speed back to 1066 Mhz to see if you can get the RAM to run with all 4 slots filled. Leave all the other BIOS  DRAM settings to auto.
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: MK on August 10, 2010, 01:35:58 pm
I am running an AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black CPU 3.4 GHz.

I have tried reducing RAM speed and the system will not POST if memory slot 2 or memory slot 4 have memory installed.

I have tried the different RAM speed settings and it does not help.
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: absic on August 10, 2010, 01:41:39 pm
Hi,

reading back through your posts you say that you have changed memory and Mobo's. Have you tried with a different CPU?

The problem could be a faulty Memory Controller and you might need to RMA the CPU.
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: MK on August 10, 2010, 01:57:33 pm
I have not tried a different CPU yet.  I suppose that is my next attempt.  I was reading more on my mobo and learned that Slot 1 and Slot 3 make up Memory Channel 0 - and slot 2 and Slot 4 make up Memroy Channel 1. 

I can make Channel 0 work with either one or two slots filled (Slot 1 and / Or Slot 3 work fine alone or together).  I cannot make Channel 1 work at all (will not post with memory installed in Slot 2 and / Or Slot 4).

At this point the only thing I can think is to try another CPU.  Is there anything else you can think of that would prevent one of the memory channels from functioning?  Perhaps power on the mobo (running Antec 750 watt PS) is bad?  Also have Nvidia GTX 465 graphics board installed.

Thanks!
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: absic on August 10, 2010, 02:07:32 pm
To be honest, from what I am discovering about the AM3 CPU's I would be looking at that as the probable cause. Because the Memory Controller(s), there are actually 2 Memory Controllers on the CPU, are now on-board the CPU it is very rare for these kind of problems to be due to the motherboard.

When these problems occur, the last thing that most of us consider is that the CPU can be at fault, it has to be the Motherboard, PSU or something else but I would be trying another CPU (if you have one that you can use) to eliminate that as a cause of the problem. If you can then run with all 4 slots filled you know for certain that the CPU is the cause of your trouble. If it still doesn't work then it is probably the Mobo.

With these issues it is a process of elimination but, as I said earlier. you have already tried a different Mobo and RAM, to my mind that leaves the CPU and your PSU seems more than adequate to power your rig.
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 10, 2010, 02:11:40 pm
I am sure absic is absolutely right about the memory controller but to confirm this you could try removing all the ram apart form one stick in slot 2 and see if it will boot. If it doesn't then it is certain.
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: MK on August 10, 2010, 06:08:12 pm
Nice forum and support!  Thanks for the suggestions and help.

The CPU was the problem.  I replaced it today with a like-in-kind new from the store (exchange old unit as defective) and it booted up instantly with all 8 GB memory installed.  No problems.

I guess for future reference the key was the fact that the motherboard (Rev 2.0) operates slot 1 and slot 3 as "channel 0" and slot 2 and slot 4 as "channel 1".  The CPU has dual channel memory controllers - so with hindsight 20:20 it makes sense that one memory controller was working (channel 0, which is why I could post with memory in slot 1 and / or slot 3) and one memory controller failed (why it would not post with memory installed in slot 2 and / or slot 4).

Again, thanks for the guidance.
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: absic on August 10, 2010, 06:10:19 pm
No problem and pleased to have been able to help. It's just a shame that you have to go through all that grief for a dodgy CPU.
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: r9ball on August 12, 2010, 07:53:01 am
Almost identical to my issue on the GA 770TA UD3 MB...
Was easy to put the blame on the ram or MB. Especially when system ran fine with only 2 modules install in slots 1 & 3 and prime95 had no errors after 8hrs.
Absic115 testing was also a big help.
Of course it has been over 30 days for me, so I can't  get a replacement CPU from Newegg, so I am trying to see if AMD will exchange since it has 3yr warranty. I paid for it so I want one that works correctly.

Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 12, 2010, 11:31:01 am
That is the trouble(and I am sure why AMD and the motherboard manufacurers keep quiet about it) when people find out the truth they feel cheated and quite rightly so. The consumer likes to make an informed choice on where to spend their hard earned cash not to be lead along by hype.
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: Barracuda on March 06, 2011, 05:23:53 am
Does anyone know of a Processor that will work with this MOBO and Corsair (4x2GB) 1333mhz CMX8GX3M4A1333C9 9-9-9-24 RAM. I am looking for a quad core 3.0 or above processor may be six core but at least 3.0 or above. thanks for any replies in advance.
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: blackie on March 06, 2011, 09:27:13 pm
You might try 2 sticks of 4GB. Works great for me - even over-clocked to 1600 Mhz.

The memory that worked for me is a matched pair of G.Skill DDR3-1333 PC3-10666 part F3-1066CL7D-8GBRH. 170$ at New egg in October 2011.
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: Barracuda on March 07, 2011, 06:01:28 am
Thanks for the reply on the 4 GB of RAM. I think that the MOBO only allows for 2GB RAM per slot. Not for sure though off the top of my head if this is correct or not. I still would prefer a different CPU though leaving me with the option of using 4x4GB of RAM in the future if needed and possible. Anyone else have a suggestion for a replacement CPU that will work. Thanks in advance for any replies. :) 
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: Dark Mantis on March 07, 2011, 06:25:12 am
No your motherboard supports 4 GB memory modules no problem.

4 x 1.5V DDR3 DIMM sockets supporting up to 16 GB of system memory
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: Ripshod on March 07, 2011, 06:28:20 pm
I have a 1090T giving the same symptoms you have, one of the IMCs has gone down. I'm now running 2X4GB XMS3, but without the advantage of dual channel. New 1090T coming next pay day.
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: absic on March 07, 2011, 06:43:55 pm
Hi Ripshod,

When you get your new CPU send the dodgy one to AMD. They will check it out and if it proves to be faulty they should replace it.

As a matter of interest, have you been running your RAM at 1600MHz?
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: Barracuda on March 28, 2011, 01:59:51 am
Hi, I have e-mailed AMD and they have approved an RMA on my CPU but they will not give me a different model CPU. Does anyone know if these CPU's(Phenom II 955 Black Edition 3.2GHZ Quad Core) work with this MOBO( GA-890GPA-UD3H ) and the 8 GB's of RAM(4x2GB)(Corsair XMS3 CMX8GX3M4A1333C9 1333MHZ). I am using it now with just 2x2 GB's of this RAM in Slots 1 and 3. I want to use all 4 sticks that I purchased. Thanks all for the replies. 
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: stewwmann on March 28, 2011, 03:09:42 am
Yes the 955be will work fine with this mobo and mem. My system was built exactly like that before cpu upgrade and memory timeing adjustments.

CM HAF 922
GIGABYTE 890GPA-UD3H Rev 2.0 bios rev FF
PHENOM 2 X6 1090t BE oc @ 3.6
ANTEC TPQ-850W
CORSAIR H70
60 gb CORSAIR FORCE ssd
4- 320 gb SAMSUNG F4 raid0
2- GIGABYTE HD6850 crossfire
4 -CORSAIR 9cas 2 gb strips 1600/1.65v running @1333/1.5v 6-8-8-21
Win7 ultimate 64 bit

 
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: Dark Mantis on March 28, 2011, 08:28:56 am
Hi, I have e-mailed AMD and they have approved an RMA on my CPU but they will not give me a different model CPU. Does anyone know if these CPU's(Phenom II 955 Black Edition 3.2GHZ Quad Core) work with this MOBO( GA-890GPA-UD3H ) and the 8 GB's of RAM(4x2GB)(Corsair XMS3 CMX8GX3M4A1333C9 1333MHZ). I am using it now with just 2x2 GB's of this RAM in Slots 1 and 3. I want to use all 4 sticks that I purchased. Thanks all for the replies. 

Yes the CPU is supported from BIOS version FB on your revision motherboard.

http://uk.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=3420

You will need to set the timings and voltage manually if you are filling all the slots as it puts the memory controller under more pressure.
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: stewwmann on March 28, 2011, 09:12:25 am
Just to comfort Barracuda and not to contradict Dark Mantis, when I put the same cpu and same memory(4-2gig strips) on this same board I set everthing (speed, timeings and voltage) to auto and it booted right up like a champ. 1333 mhz, 9-9-9-24. As is advised at the top of this forum I wouldn't run it @ 1600 because of a limitation in the cpu mc's. Oh yeah there is also a setting in bios under M.I.T.-DRAM SETTING-DCTs MODE for ganged or unganged. JUst set that to unganged and everything else to auto and you should be fine.
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: Dark Mantis on March 28, 2011, 09:19:13 am
No stewman you are quite right. Sometimes you get lucky and it will work from the start with auto settings but quite often it will not accept these and it will have to be configured manually.
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: Barracuda on April 22, 2011, 08:44:12 am
Thanks for all the replies, but i noticed all the Mobo's that you refer to are REV 2.0. I have the REV 1.0. Is there another CPU produced by AMD that will work with this Revision on this Mobo or will a new  AMD phenom II X4 955 3.2 GHZ black edition processor work with this mobo and allow me to use the 4 sticks of 2gb ram that i purchased originally for it. Thanks All for the help.   
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: absic on April 22, 2011, 08:51:17 am
Hi as long as the BIOS is F7 or later then the 955 will work on your motherboard as should 4x2 Gig sticks of RAM.
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: Barracuda on April 22, 2011, 11:03:46 pm
I know this sounds redundant, but what you are saying is that if I send my current processor(the one that will not work now with 4x2GB of RAM because of the memory channels 1 & 2 and my faulty CPU) for replacement of an exact same kind then I should be able to use all 4 sticks of RAM with my current MOBO REV 1.0.  This does not seem right according to the previous posts but if the one i have is faulty then i understand. Please someone clarify for me before i send my only processor to AMD and have to live without a computer until they send a new CPU. Thanks to all.
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: absic on April 23, 2011, 08:28:19 am
Hi Again,

not sure what revision version your motherboard is but the GA-890GPA-UD3H motherboard, according to the specs found here: http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/download-center.aspx?kw=GA-890GPA-UD3H will take upto 16GB of RAM and all three versions ofthe Phenom ii 955 Processor.
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: cookiebun on April 24, 2011, 11:41:08 pm
Hi I have the same mobo and have 8gb ram installed and have had no problems so far

NZXT Lexa S
Gigabyte 890GPA-UD3H (rev 2.0) motherboard
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition, Deneb Core, S AM3, 3.4GHz
8gb Crucial Ballistic DDR3 1333mhz/PC3-10600 (7-7-7-24) 1.65v
XFX HD 6970 ATI - AMD Radeon Graphics Card - 2GB
Western Digital WD6402AAEX 640GB Hard Drive SATA111 7200rpm 64MB Cache-OEM Caviar Black.
WD 250GB 3.5" SATA 6Gb/s Caviar Blue Hard Drive - 7200RPM 16MB Cache
Corsair 750 PSU
Zalman 9500
Liteon DVD Writer
24” Samsung SM2433BW Black Widescreen LCD, 1920x1200
5.1 Creative Surround Speakers
Logitech G11 Gaming Keyboard
Logitech MX516 Gaming Mouse
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
Epson DX8400 All in one.
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: Ripshod on April 25, 2011, 08:37:24 am
Hi Ripshod,

When you get your new CPU send the dodgy one to AMD. They will check it out and if it proves to be faulty they should replace it.

As a matter of interest, have you been running your RAM at 1600MHz?

Sorry about the delay absic. I'm not too bothered about RMAing the old processor, I think I damaged it myself while using it in a GA-M56S-S3 board and then clocking the RAM to 1600 on the new board (890FXA-UD5), The proc was fine before I did this.
I'll keep it as a single channel spare ;)
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: absic on April 25, 2011, 08:39:14 am
I would RMA the processor anyway. If it is faulty you will get a brand new one that, if you don't want you can either sell on and recover some of your costs or you can send to me. I will find a good use for it!!  ;)
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: Ripshod on April 25, 2011, 08:41:23 am
On your advice I'll give RMA a try absic. Thanks ;)
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: cookiebun on April 25, 2011, 12:11:10 pm
Hi Ripshod I RMA a processor to AMD and they replaced it and i had  broken of one of the pins trying to install it on the mobo, they also told me to send it by courier which is quiet expensive so i just sent it by air mail, so  as absic said give it a go.
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: Ripshod on April 25, 2011, 02:13:07 pm
I'm trying to register at AMD site for support (service request) but my password gets rejected. What the heck is a 'special character'?
Title: Re: 8GB(4x2GB) RAM FOR GA-890GPA-UD3H MOTHERBOARD
Post by: Dark Mantis on April 25, 2011, 07:45:48 pm
A special character is anything that isn't alphanumerical in nature. A space or any puctuation marks etc.