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Title: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: namuk on June 02, 2010, 09:33:38 pm
 ???

Default M.I.T bios i.e standard .. if i shut down system and leave for a while then switch on i get the Double boot issue just like a bad over clock but the Mit is standard. same issue on F6 and new F7p beta.
the rest of bios settings are fine and not reset , it is just this M.I.T issue and Double boot..
also i just Rmaed Corsair dominator thinking it was Mem and got Dominator gt mem installed, one thing though the XMP profile is 7,7,7,20 but system boots as 7,7,7,23. the 592mhz setting is 8,8,8,22 but system boots as 8,8,8,20. both can be changed to the xmp and Jedec setting and system boots..
temps are fine, even when in windows system runs fine even in games..
no matter what i do i still get a double boot issue from cold.. any idea's bad board?


Kit
Gigabyte X58A-UD7, 920 D0,True Ultra-120 eXtreme Rev.C,FM122 Cpu Fan,Dominator GT 6GB , GTX 480, Prelude XFI, Corsair 850Hx CoolerMaster 830 ,4hdd , 2 dvdrw .

Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: namuk on June 05, 2010, 01:45:36 am
Tried everything to get this Board to None double boot and rest set MIT, this is even on Standard setup i.e default MIT , i am going to RMA this UD7 as i have spent to many days/hours on this ..

also i am not the only one who has had this Major issue on this UD7,  no matter what Bios is installed... 

Waist on time/DAYS
Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: Dark Mantis on June 05, 2010, 09:19:14 am
Hi
 I have the same board as you and use the same PSU, Ram and processor and mine runs without this issue. The only thing I can think of to help is that the GTX480 doesn't match the ATX standard(it uses more power than is allowed) so can you try a lower spec card just to rule this out as the cause.
Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: namuk on December 22, 2010, 10:50:33 pm
Well this second Ud7 rev 1.0 on F7 bios , i have started to get this Cold boot M.I.T reset again :( , even though everything runs fine Gaming ect , no Blue screens, crash ect .

just updated to F8G beta off the gig site and left Default values for now To see how it goes,  See this is a Massive issue with X58 Mb,s in all makes , will this this Cold boot issue be fixed anytime soon with a bios update ??? , they did with the first release of ud5 F9 onwards and that was just over a year after release.

Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: Dark Mantis on December 22, 2010, 11:38:12 pm
As you quite rightly say it is something that seems to afect the X58 chipset boards and not just Gigabyte's. What I can't understand though is why it only affects some boards and not others. The UD3Rs seem to be suffering at the moment especially but out of all the ones that have been sold it must still be a small percentage that has problems with it.
Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: namuk on December 22, 2010, 11:52:27 pm
whats the chances of getting a second with Cold boot issue, dam big percentage imop . and i got this Ud7 well in production .
Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: Dark Mantis on December 23, 2010, 12:08:08 am
I know but I am running a similar setup to you and without any cold boot problem. I shut it down totally every night and no problem in the morning. So what is the difference? ( apart from the fact that I tuck it up with a blanket so it doesn't get cold  ;D )
Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: namuk on December 23, 2010, 12:12:39 am
I do as well, EuP is disabled as wel (had this disabled since the DXX psu as it gave Boot loops)l, also not getting any missing Memory, what Bios are you ruining and clock?

And what SDD corsair model are you running?


Edit: with all theses Hdd's i am running WD RE3 as main, rest are Slaves WD-Black,RE2,Raptor i have the HD delay on "0" would this Cause Cold boot M.I.T issues?
been reading a few threads on here about this HD delay and there adding a few secounds, but i am not getting a Freeze.





Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: Dark Mantis on December 23, 2010, 09:26:20 am
I am running at stock setttings apart from the XMP for the Dominators. BIOS F7.

Corsair Perfomance SSD 256 GB.

HDD delay probably wouldn't help in your case but for the trouble of trying it might be just worth a shot. Try 5 or so seconds, should be plenty.
Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: namuk on December 23, 2010, 04:22:34 pm
Corsair performance, not looked at that one,

Running stock at moment and no Cold boot issues for the last 2 days, Just thought the Delay may help when overclocked. 

try an overclock and see if you do get this cold boot issue.
Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: Dark Mantis on December 23, 2010, 04:47:22 pm
Can't at the moment I'm afraid ..far too busy!
Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: Griff7520 on December 23, 2010, 08:20:00 pm
I am running @ 3.8,  24/7 and have never had a problem with this board...in fact one of the best boards out there at the moment. Bios is F7 and my spec is below
Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: namuk on December 23, 2010, 08:24:55 pm
i did not have a cold boot for months then it suddenly occurred again, but What version of kingston ram have you got and speed/timings your running? also do you have any Hdd's in your System.
Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: Dark Mantis on December 23, 2010, 08:59:31 pm
As a matter of interest while we are trying to find some common ground here does either of you use a UPS system or do either of you totally unplug your systems from the wall?
Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: namuk on December 23, 2010, 09:47:30 pm
no Ups here or unplug system mate

 i did read though enableing EuP helps this on certain Hardware configs , because the Ioh at 1.24 can cause cold boot with EuP off.

Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: Dark Mantis on December 23, 2010, 10:03:36 pm
I have a large UPS system but I even shut that down at night. So there is no residual current flow there.

I haven't enabled EuP but I have heard something similar myself. Don't know how acccurate this is though.
Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: namuk on December 23, 2010, 10:15:07 pm
well my last Psu was not compatable for this , the 850 is as i do not get a Boot loop at start, i have enabled it now , this is what i read post 1063 http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=240276&page=43 issue satrta at post 1040 and there is one with the same ram as mine that has same intermittent issue,

another thing while system open i can hear slight cap wine noise on idle while Hdd's are accessing, at loud i can hear a fluttering noise when i put my ear to the 850 at back and i am 90% sure it is coming from there, only faint though , will take the psu out tomorrow, to make sure it is the Psu ..

Does yours make ANY wine noise?

man this is wearing me thin .. 

Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: Dark Mantis on December 23, 2010, 10:24:51 pm
The noises are easilly fixed now so that is not a problem. There is a BIOS version available that will probably do the job but if not a small hardware fix is available from  Gigabyte's Service Centre. The BIOS version is FVA and is available from runn3R.

The easiest way to track down the noise is to use a bit of plastic or cardboard tube put to your ear.
Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: namuk on December 23, 2010, 10:27:15 pm
The noises are easilly fixed now so that is not a problem. There is a BIOS version available that will probably do the job but if not a small hardware fix is available from  Gigabyte's Service Centre. The BIOS version is FVA and is available from runn3R.

What does the FVA do?  this will stop the Psu Wine?
Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: Dark Mantis on December 23, 2010, 10:49:02 pm
I haven't actually used it but I believe it does something to stop the coil whine which is related to the PSU also.

Here is the BIOS if you want to try it: http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/upload/files/BIOS_X58A-UD7_1.0_FVA.zip
Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: namuk on December 23, 2010, 11:09:37 pm
I haven't actually used it but I believe it does something to stop the coil whine which is related to the PSU also.

Here is the BIOS if you want to try it: http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/upload/files/BIOS_X58A-UD7_1.0_FVA.zip

thanks for link dark sticking with  F8G first mate  , will try disabling EIST first C1E already disabled by default , never used that anyway, need to resolve the cold boot first.

Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: namuk on December 23, 2010, 11:47:48 pm
Disabled EIST and C1E was part of the the clock also disabled that on Second reboot which i am still Standard clock (both were enabled on the overclock), the Psu Wine is gone  ;D C3/C6/C7 is what i meant ::)

Jesus, at least one issue is gone , did a Quick google and there is a few posts on various Psu's relating the same issue on Intel speed step and Psu wine.
Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: Dark Mantis on December 24, 2010, 08:47:16 am
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C3/C6/C7 is what i meant

Yes I figured that is what you meant  ;D

As you say it is not hard to get rid of the noise, one way or another.
There are plenty of posts on this forum about it without Googling for it  ;)

Anyway have a good Christmas mate.
Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: Griff7520 on December 24, 2010, 12:22:33 pm
These are my settings at the moment. Only thing I do at night is shut down pc and restart in the morning as normal.
Memory used is this,  6GB Kingston Hyper-X 1600MHz DDR3 Triple Channel Memory Kit - KHX1600C8D3K3/6GX


(http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/7481/99871860.th.jpg) (http://img716.imageshack.us/i/99871860.jpg/)

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Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: namuk on December 24, 2010, 12:46:17 pm
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C3/C6/C7 is what i meant

Yes I figured that is what you meant  ;D

As you say it is not hard to get rid of the noise, one way or another.
There are plenty of posts on this forum about it without Googling for it  ;)

Anyway have a good Christmas mate.

odd that i did not have the cap wine noise before and now this has all of a sudden started, may be related to cold boot reset, i also switched off Virtualization Technology.

same to you Merry  Christmas .. the time of year for too much beer and  Bearded lady's lol.
Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: namuk on December 24, 2010, 12:46:56 pm
These are my settings at the moment. Only thing I do at night is shut down pc and restart in the morning as normal.
Memory used is this,  6GB Kingston Hyper-X 1600MHz DDR3 Triple Channel Memory Kit - KHX1600C8D3K3/6GX


(http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/7481/99871860.th.jpg) (http://img716.imageshack.us/i/99871860.jpg/)

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thanks , have you got all the power saving tech switched off? i.e EIST,C1 and VT?
Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: Griff7520 on December 24, 2010, 01:21:08 pm
These are my settings at the moment. Only thing I do at night is shut down pc and restart in the morning as normal.
Memory used is this,  6GB Kingston Hyper-X 1600MHz DDR3 Triple Channel Memory Kit - KHX1600C8D3K3/6GX


(http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/7481/99871860.th.jpg) (http://img716.imageshack.us/i/99871860.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)hope this helps

thanks , have you got all the power saving tech switched off? i.e EIST,C1 and VT?

Yes mate...all voltages and memory timings set manualy.

 Forgot to mention this...system drive is a 120gb revo in 3rd pciex slot, also running 2x160 WD Blues in software raid and 1 sammy F3 1TB drive...using AHCI settings
Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: namuk on December 24, 2010, 01:44:18 pm
i set the volts manually as well, but are your power saving modes off?


These are my settings at the moment. Only thing I do at night is shut down pc and restart in the morning as normal.
Memory used is this,  6GB Kingston Hyper-X 1600MHz DDR3 Triple Channel Memory Kit - KHX1600C8D3K3/6GX


(http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/7481/99871860.th.jpg) (http://img716.imageshack.us/i/99871860.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)hope this helps

thanks , have you got all the power saving tech switched off? i.e EIST,C1 and VT?

Yes mate...all voltages and memory timings set manualy.

 Forgot to mention this...system drive is a 120gb revo in 3rd pciex slot, also running 2x160 WD Blues in software raid and 1 sammy F3 1TB drive...using AHCI settings
Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: Griff7520 on December 24, 2010, 06:47:28 pm
yes....I dont use pewer saving....and i also disable hibernation etc etc as I have a revo drive as main
Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: namuk on December 24, 2010, 07:30:13 pm
yes....I dont use pewer saving....and i also disable hibernation etc etc as I have a revo drive as main

First i really used this Power saving on the X58, seems to work like a charm since i had the Ud7, not like the 775 platform were i disabled it ,the 775  system was never stable with it on,
going to keep this power saving off for a while now on the Ud7 but leave ErP on.

 hibernation? you mean Windows Power usage?if so this is off as well, always has been. i see no hibernation in the Bios. unless you mean ErP power state. 
Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: Griff7520 on December 24, 2010, 09:04:08 pm
hibernation is a w7 thing where the computer goes to sleep after inactivity....not sure if its called erp as well....you are advised to switch it off when using SSD drives.
Title: Re: X58A UD7 M.I.T bios reset
Post by: namuk on December 24, 2010, 09:10:41 pm
hibernation is a w7 thing where the computer goes to sleep after inactivity....not sure if its called erp as well....you are advised to switch it off when using SSD drives.

yea that's the one, also got the Win power saving stuff disabled in win, basicly set to High performance , always do these power settings as Hdd's also hate power down and can kill the drives.
ErP is in the bios under Power saving, use tobe called EuP f6 bios and under , f7 onwards they changed the name, not sure why.