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Title: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: Dark Mantis on June 18, 2010, 12:12:55 pm
Heres's a thread which I thought might be of interest to anyone in the liquid cooling circle, or anyone else for that matter. The pics are great although the older ones tend to look a bit outdated by modern standards. I have just put a few pics of my own on there for anyone who's interested.

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=760053
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: absic on June 18, 2010, 09:48:05 pm
Thanks for the link.
Some interesting images and well worth checking out.

Much appreciated
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: Dark Mantis on June 18, 2010, 10:07:20 pm
I know it takes some time to go through them all(took me about three evenings) but there are some very excellent builds on the site(and a few poor ones). Definitely interesting though and some unusual designs.
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: venganza on June 19, 2010, 12:00:11 am
Nice find :)
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: RichieC on June 21, 2010, 09:24:10 am
They aren't bad but they still can't beat the two from http://darkmantis.co.uk

Only if the green one had a GFX card being cooled. xD
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: Dark Mantis on June 21, 2010, 11:39:19 am
They aren't bad but they still can't beat the two from http://darkmantis.co.uk

Only if the green one had a GFX card being cooled. xD

Well thanks for checking them out although I think you are being a bit too kind ;D There are a few really great builds on there and we can all learn something from some of them.[EDIT] I just realised your link was to my website rather than the one on HardForums. Sorry.

The graphics card on the green one isn't on the watercooling loop because try as I might the 4850 just doesn't want to play :'( I have a couple of Zalman blocks for it but it just won't run properly unless the standard HSF assembly is installed. I must have installed /removed the blocks about six times now. I tried again yesterday and thought that I had sorted it by connecting the fan(four connections) from the old HSF to the connection to fool the card but alas still no joy! If anyone has any ideas please post them before I go insane ???
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: gilgamesh on July 09, 2010, 09:04:12 pm
nah mate

THIS IS  amonster build and i havent finished it .....YET though

http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,1305.0.html


gilgamesh
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 09, 2010, 09:34:07 pm
Hey, what a beast! 8) I knew it would be as soon as  I read the first line "Mountain Mods Duality" When is it due to be finished? Problem is by the time it's built it will need to be upgraded! All nice gear though. I would argue about certain items but then where would we be if everyone agreed(we would all be running Macs :P) Post some more pics when you can. Well done mate. 8)
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: gilgamesh on July 10, 2010, 10:33:33 pm
Hey, what a beast! 8) I knew it would be as soon as  I read the first line "Mountain Mods Duality" When is it due to be finished? Problem is by the time it's built it will need to be upgraded! All nice gear though. I would argue about certain items but then where would we be if everyone agreed(we would all be running Macs :P) Post some more pics when you can. Well done mate. 8)

mate some things have been changed since then
As you may or may not know I was lucky enough to review the XSPC RASA PT water block bud thats on there now and there is a fill cover block on that dfi board there now.

THe black Ice sr1 280 is in there as its the onyl 280 rad available until paul and rob get their act together

This duality is the larger ascension type. THe spare duality I have down stairs is the u2 ufo duality

Im looking at getting the first half i.e loop3 completed at the end of this month

I have since repowder coated the cross struts and the base plate from the horrible (finerprint and scratch magnet) mirror black finish to a satin black

If the gigabyte ud7 board has a decnet northbridge water cooling block i would put that in instead but it doesnt, so ill have to wait until i can pay duniek to fabricate one

rads in total in the case so far are:
Thermochill PA140.3, Thermochill pa 120.3 black ice sr1 280mm
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: gilgamesh on July 10, 2010, 10:39:35 pm

Loop two completed BTW getting great performance results
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 10, 2010, 10:55:26 pm
It sounds great! I am also running the UD7 and the northbridge block on it isn't too bad. At least this time they made it out of copper rather than aluminium. The only downside to it is it's only 10mm connections and they're not swappable. There is however a proper block that will fit the MIPS Fusion block http://www.aquatuning.co.uk/product_info.php/info/p5965_MIPS-GIGABYTE-EX58-Extreme-Fusionblock-Nickel.html seems quite good.
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: gilgamesh on July 10, 2010, 11:34:03 pm

nah itys hte water block on FINS that bugs me, in my review i had to give the board a silver cos of the waterblock not making proper surface contact in order to be effective
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 11, 2010, 09:32:10 am
Ah, fair comment. To be fair though I am running the default block at the moment and it doesn't do a bad job of coling the NB although I haven't overclocked it yet and I use the heatpipe cooler as well.
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: GreenMagic on July 12, 2010, 08:33:05 pm
Hi

I jump in here with the big boys if you don't mind guys? What would you say about this system? This will be about 400£ ( with shipping and the rest of the stuff ).

CPU block: Swiftech Apogee XT Extreme Performance CPU waterblock Rev 2.
GPU block: EK-FC5870 V2 Acetal, backplate: EK-FC5850/5870.
Radiator: Black Ice SR-1 360. Fans: Noctua NF-S12B FLX 120mm.
Pump: Swiftech MCP655 with EK Laing D5 X-TOP G1/4 Rev.2.
Reservoir: EK-BAY SPIN Reservoir - Acetal, fits nice with my case.
Tubing: Black: Tygon R3400 1/2in. ID 3/4in. OD Laboratory Tubing.

P.S. Have not pick out the rest yet.
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 12, 2010, 08:44:19 pm
Looks like a good quality setup that you have picked there GreenMagic. It should work very well and is a system you could be proud of. Do you have any ideas on the liquid you intend to use yet?
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: gilgamesh on July 12, 2010, 08:47:11 pm
Hi

I jump in here with the big boys if you don't mind guys? What would you say about this system? This will be about 400£ ( with shipping and the rest of the stuff ).

CPU block: Swiftech Apogee XT Extreme Performance CPU waterblock Rev 2.
GPU block: EK-FC5870 V2 Acetal, backplate: EK-FC5850/5870.
Radiator: Black Ice SR-1 360. Fans: Noctua NF-S12B FLX 120mm.
Pump: Swiftech MCP655 with EK Laing D5 X-TOP G1/4 Rev.2.
Reservoir: EK-BAY SPIN Reservoir - Acetal, fits nice with my case.
Tubing: Black: Tygon R3400 1/2in. ID 3/4in. OD Laboratory Tubing.



P.S. Have not pick out the rest yet.

Personally i would opt for a XSPC Rasa block and a thermochill PA120.3, EXCLUSIVE NEWS: I would HOLD on any water cooling build as Thermochill are releasing the new TA 120.3 series! YES TA!

otherwise thats a very good setuup buddy
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: GreenMagic on July 12, 2010, 08:48:58 pm
Hmm.. not yet  i have been looking on that little bit, will read me up on that part some more though. Suggestions?  
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: gilgamesh on July 12, 2010, 08:54:20 pm
Hmm.. not yet  i have been looking on that little bit, will read me up on that part some more though. Suggestions?  

performance on the TA series is better there have been a few innovations (i am not allowed to talk about yet)

The xspc RASA block has been reviewed on my site

http://www.overclockerstech.com/xspc-rasa-cpu-water-block-review/


gilgamesh
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: GreenMagic on July 12, 2010, 09:01:22 pm
gilgamesh, when is the new ThermoChill PA120.3 be out? will it be Rev.2?
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: gilgamesh on July 12, 2010, 09:08:55 pm
gilgamesh, when is the new ThermoChill PA120.3 be out? will it be Rev.2?

Its called the TA SERIES SHOULD BE out in the next month or two
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: GreenMagic on July 12, 2010, 09:17:47 pm
Oooh my bad, sweet beans i got some savings to do anyways so, 1 - 2 months sounds good. Any clues about price range?
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: gilgamesh on July 12, 2010, 09:22:49 pm
Oooh my bad, sweet beans i got some savings to do anyways so, 1 - 2 months sounds good. Any clues about price range?

not yet bud
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: GreenMagic on July 12, 2010, 09:31:33 pm
Alright gilgamesh, thanks for the info back to reading for me.
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 12, 2010, 10:19:21 pm
And don't forget the bling! With a nice case like yours with a big window etc you are going to be needing some lighting.
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: GreenMagic on July 12, 2010, 10:37:22 pm
And don't forget the bling! With a nice case like yours with a big window etc you are going to be needing some lighting.

LoooL, Dark Mantis im not that in all the bling I like it black and discrete , so you really cant tell how much power is hiding in there. I´m afraid all the lights will disturb my gaming focus in a dark room too, maybe get some lightning in the water reservoir. I have found something, EK Supreme HF Full Nickel seems to be a killer. Leaning towards EK Supreme HF Full Nickel or Swiftech Apogee XT. ThermoChill seems to be the king too, will wait and see the new series will be awesome.

P.S. Do you guys think a 3*120 radiator will be enough if i wanna throw in south and north bridge cooling as well? and later on maybe one more ATI 5870 card? I will probably need more cream then?
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: gilgamesh on July 12, 2010, 10:57:43 pm
And don't forget the bling! With a nice case like yours with a big window etc you are going to be needing some lighting.

LoooL, Dark Mantis im not that in all the bling I like it black and discrete , so you really cant tell how much power is hiding in there. I´m afraid all the lights will disturb my gaming focus in a dark room too, maybe get some lightning in the water reservoir. I have found something, EK Supreme HF Full Nickel seems to be a killer. Leaning towards EK Supreme HF Full Nickel or Swiftech Apogee XT. ThermoChill seems to be the king too, will wait and see the new series will be awesome.

P.S. Do you guys think a 3*120 radiator will be enough if i wanna throw in south and north bridge cooling as well? and later on maybe one more ATI 5870 card? I will probably need more cream then?
what board are you cooling again? an x58?


on full oc PWMS use around 2-00 watts at full load MCH around 75 watts the same........so thats 275 watts of heat going inside yourt sytem and 275 watts extra the rad has to cool. You certainkly qwont col the cpu chiposet and that vga with those fans mate. I would strongly advice using a 2nd rad  for chipset only
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 12, 2010, 11:11:16 pm
And don't forget the bling! With a nice case like yours with a big window etc you are going to be needing some lighting.

LoooL, Dark Mantis im not that in all the bling I like it black and discrete , so you really cant tell how much power is hiding in there. I´m afraid all the lights will disturb my gaming focus in a dark room too, maybe get some lightning in the water reservoir. I have found something, EK Supreme HF Full Nickel seems to be a killer. Leaning towards EK Supreme HF Full Nickel or Swiftech Apogee XT. ThermoChill seems to be the king too, will wait and see the new series will be awesome.

I know what you mean. I have 6 CCLs and a few LEDs in mine and can turn them on or off as the mood suits. The UVs look coool now that I have painted the inside of the case black especially.
I would agree with gilgamesh regarding the rads. I am running two doubles at the moment(one is on the exterior of the house) with a third on the way.
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: GreenMagic on July 12, 2010, 11:27:41 pm
I see,  I think an 4*120 radiator fits on my case on the top. That would be enough power then?  But there is only 3 holes on the top, would that be any problems?  I use GA-X58A-UD3R board.
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 12, 2010, 11:32:45 pm
I see, I think an 4*120 radiator fits on my case on the top. That would be enough power then?  But there is only 3 holes on the top, would that be any problems?
Do you mean outside on top or inside? I noticed there were only three fan outlets.
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: GreenMagic on July 12, 2010, 11:38:33 pm
I see, I think an 4*120 radiator fits on my case on the top. That would be enough power then?  But there is only 3 holes on the top, would that be any problems?
Do you mean outside on top or inside? I noticed there were only three fan outlets.

Inside.
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 12, 2010, 11:38:50 pm
You could fit it either way. That's the beauty of water cooling it's so versatile. If you mounted it externally the fan mounting holes wouldn't really matter as you could space the whole assembly off the top. If you check out my web page you can see a 480 on the top of the green case. Bit of a botch but sometime I will get around to rebuilding it properly. That case is even taller than yours!
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: GreenMagic on July 12, 2010, 11:45:48 pm
Cool, I will use the top as exhaust though. I was more thinking about the 4th fan will blow air on the case roof and cant get out that way, if that would cause any problems. If not then it would be better to get 4*120 radiator instead of 2 separate radiators? I will use the backside fan and the standard intake fan on the bottom like intakes.
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 12, 2010, 11:49:36 pm
There is nothing stopping you modifying the top of your case by drilling another series of holes to match the other three outlets. That's all I did with the Supermicro server case. There were no holes at all on the top of that but a bit of modding and alls well now.
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: GreenMagic on July 12, 2010, 11:56:11 pm
Yep that would do the trick, but the 4*120 would handle it all? But the 3*120 can at least handle CPU,1*GPU and south/ north bridge?
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 12, 2010, 11:57:57 pm
There is one main thing to remember when cooling, water or air and that is you can't go below ambient room temperature unless you get more radical! It doesn't matter how many or big radiators you put on you will be limited by this factor.
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: GreenMagic on July 12, 2010, 11:59:22 pm
Yes sir, been reading about that.
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 13, 2010, 12:02:48 am
You see GreenMagic you have got the bug! You have to have one karma for that ;) Check out this for more radical cooling

 http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,2134.0.html

and gilgamesh's thread also about DICE
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: GreenMagic on July 13, 2010, 12:09:25 am
OOH yeah give me karma  ;D But what is this oil cooling i have seen on youtube? Read this and see if i understood everything correct: the 4*120 would handle it all? But the 3*120 can at least handle CPU,1*GPU and south/ north bridge?  The computer with green is oil cooled?
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: gilgamesh on July 13, 2010, 01:14:07 am
OOH yeah give me karma  ;D But what is this oil cooling i have seen on youtube? Read this and see if i understood everything correct: the 4*120 would handle it all? But the 3*120 can at least handle CPU,1*GPU and south/ north bridge?  The computer with green is oil cooled?

waste of time cooling the southbridge really, it doesnt DO enough, cool north /pwms only. 4X120MM FANS would handle it yes but you would need the fans on full to do it. There is no substitute for a DUAL loop even a 120.3 on one loop and a 120.1 on another apart from cost factor is much better option than a single 120.4
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 13, 2010, 07:00:42 am
OOH yeah give me karma  ;D But what is this oil cooling i have seen on youtube? Read this and see if i understood everything correct: the 4*120 would handle it all? But the 3*120 can at least handle CPU,1*GPU and south/ north bridge?  The computer with green is oil cooled?
No the green computer is just water cooled. I can't really see the point in oil cooling. It's like those electric/oil filled radiators that you can buy for your house, they take longer to heat up but once hot they take longer to cool down. So they are more stable heatwise. That is a good thing for heating your house but doesn't give any benefit when it comes to computers.

I would totally agree with gilgamesh, there is nothing like seperate cooling loops but it obviously costs more as you require two of practically everything.
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: GreenMagic on July 13, 2010, 11:47:13 am
Thanks sensei gilgamesh & Dark Mantis, well i really don't want to make holes on this case, so i will probably skip the south bridge too and do the 3*120 setup with 1 separate 1*120 for the bridge only. Dark Mantis i need two of everything? then you mean 2 pumps and 2 reservoirs? is there anything more i need two of except the tubing and fittings of course?  

P.S. Do i need the back plate for the CPU block as well?
Title: Re: Liquid Cooling Monsters!
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 13, 2010, 11:58:40 am
Thanks sensei gilgamesh & Dark Mantis, well i really don't want to make holes on this case, so i will probably skip the south bridge too and do the 3*120 setup with 1 separate 1*120 for the bridge only. Dark Mantis i need two of everything? then you mean 2 pumps and 2 reservoirs? is there anything more i need two of except the tubing and fittings of course?  

P.S. Do i need the back plate for the CPU block as well?
The short answer is yes. You will need to make up two completely seperate loops. So you will need to pumps,reservoirs, blocks and radiators. You will need a backplate for the CPU waterblock retaining device to secure to, usually this will come with the block.