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Title: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on August 20, 2010, 06:02:09 pm
Have been having major problems with this board

With delivery BIOS FA ran and overclocked great except for disappearing RAM 6Gb with 4Gb usable

BIOS FB11 Beta ran very very slow on boot up if it booted at all and couldnt access overclocking options

SO returned to FA

BIOS FB16 Beta exactly the same as FB11 but after a lot of grief and aggro and about 2 hrs it eventually booted , but cannot access OC options.

I had to update BIOS thro @BIOS because i dont have a floppy drive. ANY help or ideas ?????
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 20, 2010, 06:05:48 pm
Hi and welcome to the forum. Do not use @BIOS in Windows it is far to risky. Use Q-Flash in the BIOS instead. If you are unsure on the procedure check out our FAQ section here: http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,2441.0.html
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on August 20, 2010, 10:07:07 pm
Thanks for the info

Tried this method but still had problems

Managed to get into OC menus tho

Booted OK after some tweaking

Will try it out tomorrow properly
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 20, 2010, 10:13:43 pm
Please list all your hardware and OS for next time. ;)
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on August 22, 2010, 07:35:19 pm
Windows 7 64 bit
X58 udr3 ver2
6Gb Corsair Dominator ddr3 ram
Zotac GTX 480
Asus 8800GT
Core i7 930 with Titan Fenrir cooler
3 HDD's various sizes etc

Returned bios to FA ( original ) cause of problems with FB11 and FB16 bios's
I have tried implimenting them the other way aswell but major boot problems / issues
To boot it takes for ever to even detect the drives then goes into a boot cycle getting slower and slower
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 22, 2010, 07:45:10 pm
Can I just clarify that the motherboard is a GA-X58A-UD3R revision 2.0
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on August 23, 2010, 08:12:39 pm
Yes it is a x58a-ud3r Ver 2

Thanks
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 23, 2010, 08:39:13 pm
I know that you are into overclocking and that's cool but I would reset everything back to the optimised defaults until you have cleared up any problems. Once you're sure that the system is stable you can start playing with the settings.
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on August 23, 2010, 09:44:22 pm
System runs stable at default with FA bios axcept for the disappearing ram

System runs stable overclocked to 4Ghz with FA bios except for disappearing ram

With FB11 or FB16 bios's the system will not boot or takes a very long time

It is now all at default settings with FA bios and running sweet except only 4Gb is usable out of the 6Gb
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 23, 2010, 09:51:26 pm
With FB11 or FB16 bios's the system will not boot or takes a very long time

It is now all at default settings with FA bios and running sweet except only 4Gb is usable out of the 6Gb

If you updated the BIOS now at defaults would it not be stable? I have only seen two reasons for your problem and those are either bent pins on the CPU socket or the BIOS needed updating.
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on August 25, 2010, 05:47:37 pm
Reset everything to defaults on BIOS FA

Booted to windows OK

Using FLASHQ updated to Fb16 BIOS

If it boots to windows it takes about 10 minutes
If it doesnt boot to windows if BSOD with PAGE ERROR

Once up and running everyrthing is good. 6Gb of ram and performance is good.

Have tried to BOOT 5 times now and 10 mins is the average
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 25, 2010, 05:50:46 pm
Is there any specific place it hangs on when booting?
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on August 25, 2010, 06:32:31 pm
Pauses before memory check
Pauses before disc/ide drive ckeck
Pauses before DMA update ? not sure if thats correct
Pauses Before Windows Starting to load screen
Pauses at Windows Starting screen

Once into WIndows it is great.

Non of this happens in FA Bios in default or overclocked
But same happens in Fb11 and Fb16
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 25, 2010, 06:34:08 pm
Have you got quick boot enabled?
Make sure anything that it looks for that you don't have is disabled too. ie drives, floppy, etc
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on August 25, 2010, 07:06:09 pm
not got quick boot enabled ?
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 25, 2010, 07:28:51 pm
In "Advanced BIOS Features"/  Quick Boot/ enable
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on August 25, 2010, 07:29:40 pm
No i havent....should I ?
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 25, 2010, 07:32:16 pm
Yes definitley once you have everything running right. It will shorten the boot time considerably.  ;)
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on August 25, 2010, 09:39:05 pm
Had to resort back to FA

BIOS is very sluggish in Fb11 and Fb16

Cannot access half the features
Booting takes 10 mins
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 25, 2010, 09:48:23 pm
You can still enable quick boot in FA. Not that it helps cure your problem just thought I would mention it. I would be inclined to load the newer BIOS and then trim it right down to the barest necessities and see how it went. More play time ;D
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on August 26, 2010, 02:56:23 pm
Cannot trim anything.

Cannot access half the features or settings

The BIOS locks up/freezes

If I press any key before the memory test has completed it crashes and loops round to start of BIOS

If I press any key after memory check then the BIOS is extremely LAGGY and very very slow either in its own functions or if I try to alter any settings.

SO I either use FA and have 4Gb of ram or I use Fb16 which takes 12 minutes to boot if at all but I have 6Gb of ram

This to be honest is very very frustrating, ive never had these problems even with a 680i board i used which were famous for problems
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on August 29, 2010, 05:34:42 pm
Anyone help with this ?

Anyone using Fb 16 ?

Or Fb11 ????
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: irishbug on August 29, 2010, 05:40:57 pm
Can I just clarify that the motherboard is a GA-X58A-UD3R revision 2.0

Thanks for clearing that up Dark, that UDR3 thing was throwing me off bigtime! Im thinking my BIOS flash problems aren't as bad as his.
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 29, 2010, 05:49:44 pm
Can I just clarify that the motherboard is a GA-X58A-UD3R revision 2.0

Thanks for clearing that up Dark, that UDR3 thing was throwing me off bigtime! Im thinking my BIOS flash problems aren't as bad as his.

Happy to be able to help. Yes big problems hasn't he?
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 29, 2010, 05:59:05 pm
Cannot trim anything.
Cannot access half the features or settings
The BIOS locks up/freezes
If I press any key before the memory test has completed it crashes and loops round to start of BIOS
If I press any key after memory check then the BIOS is extremely LAGGY and very very slow either in its own functions or if I try to alter any settings.
SO I either use FA and have 4Gb of ram or I use Fb16 which takes 12 minutes to boot if at all but I have 6Gb of ram

I have just been re-reading your thread bob, and just noticed that you are running two graphics cards. Have you tried removing one of them I would suggest the 480 and then trying to boot? Also what PSU is powering all this?
Title: Re: UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on August 29, 2010, 06:49:09 pm
it is a 1050watt OCZ one
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 29, 2010, 07:00:23 pm
Oh, yes. Plenty of power then. I would still try removing the graphics card and see if it makes any difference. There have been problems with these cards in the past.
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on August 29, 2010, 08:07:07 pm
TRied removing the 8800GT

And still same problems with Fb16
Returned to FA

WIll try taking the GTX480 out tomorrow and put the 8800 GT back

Why would I be able to return to FA no problems if this was causing the problems ????
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 29, 2010, 10:41:31 pm
There has been problems with the firmware on these cards and maybe it is conflicting with the newer BIOS.
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on August 30, 2010, 05:18:48 pm
OK tried with just 8800GT and tried with just GTX480 still cannot get Fb16 to function properly

FA works great with both or either card except for the ram problem
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 30, 2010, 07:13:41 pm
Sorry Bob, I think it's time to resort to GGTS and see if they can come up with some minor miracle :-\ It would seem to be a badly written BIOS problem but with only the two options there isn't much hope at the moment. Maybe they can get on and rewrite it to fix the bug. I am just surprised that I haven't heard of anyone else complaining of the same problem.
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on August 31, 2010, 05:50:42 pm
Thanks for your time and effort though
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 31, 2010, 06:08:08 pm
No problem, you're always welcome. Please let us know the outcome to your problem.
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Graceman on August 31, 2010, 11:05:11 pm
Just popped into forun as nothing better to do and readthis thread. You have almost exactly the same symptoms as I had especially the missing ran and the rebooting problem. I got that when I rearranged the ram into different slots.
The cure was that I took out the cpu and found bent pins,
Teased them back into place with needle.
Rebuilt pc all ram was now reading ok in bios and in the correct slots. and no more problems.

I would honestly take a look, yes I know everything tells you its not that because you can read the ram with all the software tools like easy tune & CPZ but that exactly why I am answering. Its exactly the same only mt board was Rev 1.0

Dark Mantis suggested this early on for me also but that was the cure.
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on September 01, 2010, 08:01:31 pm
OK removed cooler and CPU

NO bent pins or anything untowards

Re installed CPU and cooler

Booted into FA BIOS OK

Installed BIOS Fb16 with QFlash AGAIN
Still very very Sluggish took 10 mins to boot
If I press any key on keyboard before 30-45 seconds BIOS crashes and re-starts

If i wait then boots very very very slowly

Restored to BIOS FA
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on September 01, 2010, 08:17:19 pm
Really weird Bob. I am at a loss as to the answer. I think it is going to have top be a RMA. I don't like to be beaten but you have to know when to give up. Sorry mate.
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on September 02, 2010, 07:02:22 pm
Still not heard back from Gigabyte service either  ???

Dont want to be without mobo for 6 weeks like last time i RMA'd something

May have to buy a ASUS board or something even though I hate to be beaten by something
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on September 02, 2010, 07:49:10 pm
The trouble is , Bob that it really doesn't matter which company you buy from they all have their own problems. I always swore by Asus but then had a load of trouble and came over to Gigabyte.
Title: Re: UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on September 02, 2010, 08:20:09 pm
OK I seem to have made a little step

After a tip on another forum about QFLASH i reflashed

After I reflashed I cleared the CMOS

This time a screen came up about what prfile to load " PROFILE1" was the only one or I could enter SETUP or continue to boot
I continued to BOOT and It flew through so fast to Windows load it was unbelievable.
Windows ran true aswell.
SO I turned PC off and tried to turn on again This time It was very Sluggish again.

I turned off PC again cleared CMOS again this time chose SETUP. BIOS setup came up with all options including OC options accessible.
I saved and exited.
Windows booted great and fast again.
Turned the PC off and restarted and yet again VERY VERY Sluggish 10 min boot.

Cleared the CMOS again hit f1 to continue to boot WIndows boot flew through again and here I am ??????

Does this help any in a diagnosis ??????
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on September 02, 2010, 08:36:38 pm
I wonder if it is something to do with reading the DMI before loading? You see when you clear the CMOS it clears the DMI memory and gives you a clean run. Once you have booted up the DMI is rewritten and has to be read.

Bob just humour me for a moment and unplug your mouse and keyboard and then try and boot.
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on September 02, 2010, 09:44:48 pm
AFter last post checked Gigabyte site

New FB BIOS available today

Flashed FB and same problems

After many times clearing CMOS i tried manually altering a few settings in MIT etc

I clocked it up a bit and added a few volts here and there

et voila it fecking booted up a treat TWICE !!!!!!!!!!

Hopefully that is it

It is a Profile problem.... Old profile is not being deleted and a new one made with the BIOS flash even tho settings checked in QFlash
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on September 02, 2010, 09:48:22 pm
Well at last!  ;D Let's hope it is fixed now then. Weird though.
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on September 03, 2010, 05:29:57 pm
Still had a few booting mishaps today

Seems to be stable and OK now but had to do some playing about

Not a straight forward BIOS flash experience Im used to
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on September 10, 2010, 05:44:01 pm
Still having problems

every few clean boots I have major BSOD's

I have to clear CMOS and re apply my overclocks to get it to boot properly

May be time to give up and RMA the mobo
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on September 10, 2010, 05:54:28 pm
Although it may be just a settings problem I think that it is really beyond the scope of a normal user to figure out and you have tried hard. There comes a time to RMA the board and this is it I feel.
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on September 13, 2010, 05:28:59 pm
I thinl it is just cant live without my PC for that long :(

Retailer reckons max 28 days

Last time i RMA.d something it was 6 weeks  >:(
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on September 13, 2010, 05:34:49 pm
Fatbob I still think that there is quite a possibilty that you have bent pins on your socket. I have just been back through your initial thread and it would certainly seem probable. You have all the indicators. Can you take some macro photos of the socket so we can see properly?
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Lsdmeasap on September 14, 2010, 02:42:12 pm
Give me your full current settings and I will advise back, please also include your full specs and a link to your memory again so I don't have to hunt it down.   Thanks.

Here is a link to a template for you to give me your settings.
http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte/33613-gigabyte-bios-templates-give-us-your-settings.html

I'd say let me try to help with settings before you RMA as it's may just be incorrect settings.

Also, as mentioned above, if you have your CPU out socket pics would be great so we aren't wasting time troubleshooting or messing with settings when you have bent socket pins.
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on September 15, 2010, 05:16:44 pm
Definately not the pins.

Had it out twice to look. Whilst faffing the second time I caught a pin and bent it.

So had to fecking straighten one :(

This only happened at weekend will post settings in a minute.....

Will have to reboot to check.
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on September 15, 2010, 05:44:37 pm
X58UD3R Ver2
i7 930 Titan Fenrir Cooler
6Gb Corsair Dominator TR3X6G16008D G
Zotac GTX480 ( Tried in and out )
Asus 8800GT ( tried in and out )
1050watt OCZ PSU
250Gb WD HDD OS on this
500Gb Samsung HDD
1Tb Samsung HDD

Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [22x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Enabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled] << Disabled if you do not use Vmware or Virtual PC Programs
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]


Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed ..............................Auto [4.8Ghz]
Uncore Frequency ..........................Auto
Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]


Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Disabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) .....................133
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [100]

C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [12]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Auto]

Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ......................
tRCD .......................................
tRP .........................................
tRAS .......................................

Below values may be left in Auto if you like, generally this is fine.  For those users who DO Set advanced timings manually, please see some of my thoughts and findings about these settings and rules here
XtremeSystems Forums - View Single Post - Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread

##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
tRC ........................................  (Should be = tRAS + tRP or above for stability)
tRRD .......................................
tWTR ...................................... (Must be Write to Read Delay/Same Rank - (tWL + 4)
tWR ........................................
tWTP .......................................   (tWTP Must = tWR + tWL + 4)
tWL ........................................    (tWL Must be CAS Latency -1)
tRFC .......................................
tRTP .......................................
tFAW ......................................
Command Rate (CMD) ................

##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
Round Trip Latency ...................

B2B CAS Delay ..........................


Advanced Voltage Control:

CPU
Load Line Calibration ................. [standard]
CPU Vcore ...............................[auto] 1.25625
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............
CPU PLL 1.800v .......................

MCH/ICH
PCIE 1.500v ...........................
QPI PLL 1.100v .......................
IOH Core 1.100v .....................
ICH I/O 1.500v .......................
ICH Core 1.1v ........................

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............1.64
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

These are the enhanced Default settings from Bios FA
I use these same settings in FB.
But to enter these after flashing to FB I have to clear CMOS to stand a chance of checking or changing the settings.
Then sfte cold boot it goes back to 10 minute boot ups. If I add volts or change settingsa it boots fien then produces BSOD
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Lsdmeasap on September 16, 2010, 12:12:19 pm
Definately not the pins.

Had it out twice to look. Whilst faffing the second time I caught a pin and bent it.

So had to fecking straighten one :(

This only happened at weekend will post settings in a minute.....

Will have to reboot to check.


Next time pics please, thanks!  ;D
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Lsdmeasap on September 16, 2010, 12:18:59 pm
BIOS FC1 is out now, it may be best for you to use that.

Here is some general setting advice for your setup using the settings you posted.

Also, when you get a BSOD, please try to make a note of what code it is.   It will look like this on the BSOD screen 0x00000124, or once back in windows it will show you the last 3 digits in a dialog when windows starts.

BSOD Error codes and what they mean:
0X00000050 << Incorrect Memory Timing/Freq or Uncore Multi
0X00000124 << Incorrect QPI/Vtt Voltage (To Much/Not Enough)
0X00000101 << Not enough Vcore Voltage
0X00000109 << Not enough or too Much memory voltage


Can you please provide me a link to your memory, either where you bought it or at Corsair's site.   Thanks, I can't find it at Corsair.

Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [22x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Enabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled] << Disabled if you do not use Vmware or Virtual PC Programs
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]


Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed ..............................Auto [4.8Ghz]  << Set x36 or X48 (Higher only ok to use at stock Bclk)
Uncore Frequency ..........................Auto  << Set x24-26 for x12 memory multiplier
Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]


Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Disabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) .....................133
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [100]

C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard]  < Extreme may be best
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [12]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Auto]  << Set Expert, then set each channels MAIN timings and Command Rate one by one.

Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ......................
tRCD .......................................
tRP .........................................
tRAS .......................................

Set the above 4 timings to the spec listed on your ram sticker, sorry I can't find it that is why I asked above.


All below Auto, expect CMD Rate

##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
tRC ........................................  (Should be = tRAS + tRP or above for stability)
tRRD .......................................
tWTR ...................................... (Must be Write to Read Delay/Same Rank - (tWL + 4)
tWR ........................................
tWTP .......................................   (tWTP Must = tWR + tWL + 4)
tWL ........................................    (tWL Must be CAS Latency -1)
tRFC .......................................
tRTP .......................................
tFAW ......................................
Command Rate (CMD) ................   << Set 1T

##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
Round Trip Latency ...................

B2B CAS Delay ..........................


Advanced Voltage Control:

CPU
Load Line Calibration ................. [standard]
CPU Vcore ...............................[auto] 1.25625
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............ << Set 1.25-1.35+ All depends on your CPU, auto is not advised.
CPU PLL 1.800v .......................

MCH/ICH
PCIE 1.500v ...........................
QPI PLL 1.100v .......................
IOH Core 1.100v ..................... Auto or 1.14 should be fine
ICH I/O 1.500v .......................
ICH Core 1.1v ........................

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............1.64  << This is 1.63 or less actual, so you may want to se 1.66
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on September 16, 2010, 05:22:22 pm
http://corsair.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/vcode=PGCRS/partnum=TR3X6G1600C8D/__utma=1.1126936553.1284653867.1284653867.1284653867.1/__utmb=1.2.10.1284653867/__utmc=1/__utmx=-/__utmz=1.1284653867.1.1.utmcsr=google.co.uk%7Cutmccn=(referral)%7Cutmcmd=referral%7Cutmcct=/__utmv=-/__utmk=118144137/

link for the memory
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on September 16, 2010, 05:32:00 pm
Hey Bob that's a good price. Wish we could buy them for that over here.
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on September 16, 2010, 06:57:02 pm
I bought them in the UK that was just a link to show the model.....

OK latest update

Updated to Fc1 BIOS
Wouldnt get bas the initial BIOS detections etc rebooted 3 times automatically.
If I pressed any key ie Tab to clear SCreen it rebooted. (these both happened in all BIOS updates )
Took ages to get past memory detect so I could enter BIOS setup.
As with all updates when BIOS setup screen comes on it flash/refreshes twice and I cannot alter any settings in MIT it crashes the BIOS.
If I load Optimized settings and reboot it takes 10-15 minutes to load windows and cannot enter BIOS setup/MIT.

If I turn off PC. Turn off Mains. Clear CMOS using button on Mobo.
Turn PC back on. It load a screen asking what Profile I want or to enter Setup.

If I enter setup I can do anything I want in Setup.
I have tried many changes and setups. But in all BIOS except FA it takes 10-15 minutes to boot to windows. But I do have the full 6Gb available.

I will strip the Mobo out of the case again after I have watched the footbal. (Man City fan and its only on ESPN or tinternet )
I will try to post a photo of the CPU socket
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: absic on September 16, 2010, 07:01:51 pm
I will strip the Mobo out of the case again after I have watched the footbal. (Man City fan and its only on ESPN or tinternet )

Sorry we only deal with gigabyte problems here.

For your choice of football club I guess you can always try the Samaritans. :D 
(I'm a Tractor Boy myself so I know all about that!) ;)
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on September 16, 2010, 08:49:32 pm

I will try to post a photo of the CPU socket

Try and take several from different angles with good light but not flash.
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on September 17, 2010, 04:24:58 pm
OK I give up its official.

Took the CPU out las night to take photo's.

Wish I hadnt now. I caught one of the pins somehow with my camera and fecking bent it  ???
There was definatley no bent pins before.

So I tried to straithen it the best I could in naff light.

I tried to RMA today to ARIA in Manchester.
They say the board is damaged and will not accept it for RMA.

SO I now have £160 of doorstop !!!!!!!!
Will try agin to straighten it better but dont know if I can be bothered re building my PC for the 6th time or just go out and buy another brand of Mobo.
Luckily i hadnt sold my q6600 and 680i mobo and ram or I would of been foooked.

Thanks for all your help !!!!!!!

Dont want to spend £160 again and have to go through all this again !!!!!!!

Just messaged Gigabyte tech support and they will accept it RMA there.... Hoorah .....Fingers crossed
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Lsdmeasap on September 18, 2010, 11:09:47 am
OK I give up its official.

Took the CPU out las night to take photo's.

Wish I hadnt now. I caught one of the pins somehow with my camera and fecking bent it  ???
There was definatley no bent pins before.

So I tried to straithen it the best I could in naff light.

I tried to RMA today to ARIA in Manchester.
They say the board is damaged and will not accept it for RMA.

SO I now have £160 of doorstop !!!!!!!!
Will try agin to straighten it better but dont know if I can be bothered re building my PC for the 6th time or just go out and buy another brand of Mobo.
Luckily i hadnt sold my q6600 and 680i mobo and ram or I would of been foooked.

Thanks for all your help !!!!!!!

Dont want to spend £160 again and have to go through all this again !!!!!!!

Just messaged Gigabyte tech support and they will accept it RMA there.... Hoorah .....Fingers crossed


Sorry to hear!!   I always hate asking for socket images because of this reason, happened more than a few times, but we have to ask otherwise people spend weeks troubleshooting with no positive outcome because of bent pins that no one has checked yet.

Nice to see Gigabyte will RMA for you, did you tell them pins were bent?
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on October 06, 2010, 07:39:51 pm
Got mobo back from RMA

They repaired the bent pins for me PHEWWWWW

But unfortunately all the same problems exist

Havent resorted back to FA yet to see if RAM problem still exists but after cold restart all the old problems are back.

When I rebuilt PC it booted up great with FC1 BIOS that I had installed before RMA and after a cuple of restarts it still booted great.
I thought it was all fixed

After a overnight powerdown a cold restart today and Im back to square 1. Only clearing the CMOS allows it to boot properly and access to BIOS options
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 06, 2010, 08:21:19 pm
Well good for Gigabyte for repairing the socket with the broken pins but didn't they test it afterwards? I would PM runn3R and ask him to find out. I really can't believe that they sent the board back without testing it.
Do that first and then we will take it from there. I will also try and find out if it was thoroughly tested whilst at the service centre. :-\
Title: Re: UDR3 ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: hello people on October 12, 2010, 02:32:54 am
God this is a horror story...I have this mobo and am going through cold boot issues under Rev 2 FB bios

This is awful!
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 12, 2010, 09:10:35 am
God this is a horror story...I have this mobo and am going through cold boot issues under Rev 2 FB bios

This is awful!

After reading your other post I don't think your problem is down to bent pins. But it is quite a common occurrance.
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on October 12, 2010, 06:45:07 pm
Well still having boot problems  :-\

sometimes none, sometimes cold boot, sometimes BSOD, sometimes WINDOWS LAUNCH REPAIR errors, sometimes the only way it will boot is to place my USB flash drive ( the one I flashed from ) into the USB port I used !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some strange occurances seem to be happening in the BIOS between boots ( I may be wrong )  :'(

Default Optimized settings dont seem to stay set from time to time  ???
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 12, 2010, 07:46:35 pm
Have you checked that the two BIOSes match, the backup and the main BIOS? A different version on each can cause this type of fault.
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on October 13, 2010, 07:49:52 am
How do I do this please Mantis

Once again thanks for your time

Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 13, 2010, 09:12:16 am
hi Bob sorry mate should have said.

To check, go into the BIOS and on the MAIN page press F9 for system info.   You should see both BIOS versions listed, if they do not match please update the backup BIOS to match the current.

To do that, reboot and where you would normally press DEL to enter the BIOS, instead press Alt + F12, this will flash the Backup BIOS with the MAIN BIOS contents.   Do not worry when you see a recovery comment, that is normal and means it is flashing the backup BIOS.
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: runn3R on October 13, 2010, 09:28:12 am
Got mobo back from RMA

They repaired the bent pins for me PHEWWWWW

But unfortunately all the same problems exist
(...)

Hi

Could you please kindly provide me with RMA number (UKA-...) which you received? This will enable checking the details.

Thanks
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on October 13, 2010, 05:16:02 pm
RMA number is

UKA-1090120 / 1796-ALE-170910

Thanks
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on October 13, 2010, 07:57:40 pm
I have matched both BIOS's on FC1 Bios

Wouldnt boot first 2 attempts, restored to optimised defaults and booted

Will try over the next few days and report back

Once again Thanks for your efforts
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: hello people on October 14, 2010, 01:01:46 am
To do that, reboot and where you would normally press DEL to enter the BIOS, instead press Alt + F12, this will flash the Backup BIOS with the MAIN BIOS contents.   Do not worry when you see a recovery comment, that is normal and means it is flashing the backup BIOS.

This didn't work for me. But I'll try again.

By the way...Gigabyte answered my support ticket and sent me a new bios version - FC2

If anyone wants the zip file to try I can send it
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Beekeeper on October 14, 2010, 10:13:53 am
"hello people"  pls upload this bios somewhere in the net to enable download by everyone, ok?
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 14, 2010, 10:29:27 am
Please be carefull with using this BIOS as it has been engineered for this particular problem and may not be stable yet. ;)
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: hello people on October 15, 2010, 04:07:03 am
Right...if you want it I can email it...or I think I can upload it...what's a good place to upload it?
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on October 15, 2010, 11:56:13 am
after cold start this morning

all my memory settings had returned to default

machine would not boot quickly until i had plugged in my USB flash drive ?????

bothe BIOS are the same FC1

Windows wanted to repair Launch AGAIN !!!!!
When avoided it scanned disc then launched but only with flash drive in ???
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 15, 2010, 12:12:07 pm
Have you got the Flash Drive in the boot sequence at the top?
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Beekeeper on October 15, 2010, 01:41:11 pm
Right...if you want it I can email it...or I think I can upload it...what's a good place to upload it?

just google for "free file hosting servers", you'll find plenty of them
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on October 18, 2010, 07:01:10 pm
Boot options are as should be HDD etc etc

Cold boot problems still abound
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 18, 2010, 07:52:13 pm
Can you see the hard drive (boot) in the BIOS?
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on October 19, 2010, 07:42:04 pm
can see all 3 HDD's in the BIOS with the boot disk visable
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 19, 2010, 07:57:31 pm
Can you run chkdsk?
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on October 19, 2010, 09:04:15 pm
chkdsk can be run and always comes back clear ( I Think )
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 19, 2010, 09:41:58 pm
Running out of ideas here bob. I suggest putting in a new battery if you  have a spare as you say it keeps losing the settings. What BIOS do you have now  FC1? If so get hold of FC2 and try reflashing with that and clear the DMI again when you do the flash.
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on October 20, 2010, 06:37:26 pm
I tried flashing back to FA

Back to the original problem of 4Gb out of 6Gb visible but it boots properly even without flash drive present

Please dont say its bent pins because on the 3rd attempt at spotting bent pins I did bend some pins but Gigabyte Service centre repaired them for me, so it is the BIOS

FB,FB11,FB16 and FC1 all cause other problems but 6Gb is always visible. From cold boot to BSOD , BIOS settings changing etc etc

I have tried all suggestions, and I am tottally dumfounded now.

I think it may be time to try the Manchester Screwdriver repair method and go back to using my Q6600 and 680i board until i can afford to waste another £150 quid on a motherboard that just doesnt want to play.
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 20, 2010, 08:01:20 pm
As you say it does always seem to lead back to the BIOS. maybe they will write a BIOS update soon that will cover all these problems. :-\
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: FunkyErn on October 20, 2010, 11:38:49 pm
This sounds like an all too familiar story to me. FA cold boots fine, but does not enable all memory. FB, FB11, FB18,  FC1, FC2 all result in BSOD on cold boots. I too suspect the bios. I have just RMA'd my board and RAM back to the supplier and will let them work it out. I now have to wait another 10 working days  ??? I suggest you RMA the board back.
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 21, 2010, 07:50:13 am
I am inclined to agree with FunkyErn on this. I think that you either have to wait for another BIOS update or arrange to RMA the board. :-\
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: FunkyErn on October 21, 2010, 01:45:42 pm
fatbobuk - I just posted the following on another thread...

"...after packing up the motherboard last night and discovering the scratch/dent on the processor IHS from the defective Intel cooler, I had another look at the processor this morning. Looking at the underside of the processor, one thing sprung out and struck me, most of the copper pads had marks pretty much dead centre from the pins, however one entire quadrant of the pads, all had marks close to or on the edges of the pads, some of them possibly even off the pads. Plus there were about 5 pads with no marks on them at all. This has got me thinking there might be an issue with the 1366 sockets. If the pins are not correctly aligned with the processor or move around when heated up, this might explain the issues some of us are having..."

If you still have the stomach for it I would suggest lifting out the processor again - but leaving those blasted pins alone (I also ended up bending one) - and looking very carefully at the marks on the copper pads on the underside of the processor (avoiding touching them as well). They all should pretty much be centred on the pads - if one has previously reseated the processor then there will probably be multiple marks.

Dark Mantis comment on another thread got me thinking we need to consider all elements in the chain: processor (as memory controller on it), socket (those damn pins), cooler (consistent pressure applied and not flexing anything), DIMM pins/slots, RAM DIMMs, PSU and the thing that ties it all together the BIOS. It is an absolutely minefield putting these things together and tracking these down.
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 21, 2010, 02:16:01 pm
Dark Mantis comment on another thread got me thinking we need to consider all elements in the chain: processor (as memory controller on it), socket (those damn pins), cooler (consistent pressure applied and not flexing anything), DIMM pins/slots, RAM DIMMs, PSU and the thing that ties it all together the BIOS. It is an absolutely minefield putting these things together and tracking these down.

Absolutely, now you are seeing the full picture. ;)
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on October 21, 2010, 04:55:09 pm
Retailer I bought from wont RMA cos of bent pins

Gigabyte service center said to return Board + CPU + Ram to them for testing ?
May be the only choice I have left other than to buy another Mobo

Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 21, 2010, 05:01:57 pm
Retailer I bought from wont RMA cos of bent pins

Gigabyte service center said to return Board + CPU + Ram to them for testing ?
May be the only choice I have left other than to buy another Mobo

Send it to the Gigabyte centre then I am sure that if you contact runn3R next week when he is back from his holidays that he will be able to arrange for you to RMA it. So you have got bent pins then and that was your problem I guess.
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: fatbobuk on October 21, 2010, 08:14:30 pm
the pins got bent after the 3rd removal of my CPU to check for bent pins

the service centre repaired it for me when I sent it back to them but it still isnt right
Title: Re: X58A-UD3R ver2 BIOS problems
Post by: Dark Mantis on October 21, 2010, 09:14:11 pm
Oh I see. I guess it must be the BIOS then from what you have said. It really needs sorting out though as it has been going on long enough now.