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Questions about GIGABYTE products => Motherboards with AMD processors => Topic started by: KEP on October 26, 2010, 05:18:13 pm
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Hi --
New here. And first build, too. I am still in the planning phase, actually. Have bought the GA-880GA-UD3H board (rev 2.1), and got a good deal on a couple of SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ drives that I hope to use as a RAID1 array for data. So I'm left contemplating the boot options, and have just about shot the budget.
One thing I read in the mobo manual concerned me. Or at least caused a raised eyebrow. On p26, it says:
A RAID 0 or RAID 1 configuration requires at least two hard drives. If more than two hard drives are to be used, the total number of hard drives must be an even number.
Now, I understand that a 0/1 array itself needs to have an even number of drives. But one option I was thinking about was having a single boot disk. (Probably an old/recycled WD2500 until SSDs fall a bit more in price.) So, finally, the question. If I have a RAID1 array for data, do I need to do something like a RAID0 array for the boot, or will a single drive work just fine for that?
Thanks much...
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Hi and welcome to the Gigabyte Forum.
No problem in using a single drive(SSD or magnetic) to boot from and then two drives in a RAID array for data storage.
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Much appreciated, Dark Mantis.
I figured as much, but that sentence (from the manual) was really worded ambiguously, wasn't it?
I guess I'm a little unsure how to set it all up in the BIOS. Right now, the internal drives would all be SATA2. And I'll have two eSATA connections I'd like to be hot-pluggable. My assumption is, the internals will use SATA3_x ports, and I'd connect the externals to the SATA2_x ports?
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To be honest KEP this isn't my section. I normally deal more with the Intel platform and so am not very familiar with these AMD boards and so I will let Absic or someone else better qualified on this equiptment answer you. ;)
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No worries. Gotta say, I really like the vibe here. Just looking for what I suppose amounts to a "Dummies Guide" on this kind of stuff. I've done a lot of it before, but it's always been kinda seat-of-the-pants, try-and-hope, and would like to ramp up the confidence a bit. :-)
Thanks...
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Hey, you will get all the help you need here no problem. There are always plenty of members here to help out and it is a nice friendly community(Especially on the Intel side) ;)
Absic is the AMD moderator and he is very knowledgeable.
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Hi there,
I see you have scared DM off by getting too technical for him. Good for you. We don't want any of the Dark Arts, Intel, mumbo jumbo over here! :D
Before we get down to the nitty gritty of configuring BIOS a quick question.
You say you want to use 2 e-SATA connections that you would like to be hot-swappable what are these for?
Another thing you may want to consider. Before you start installing HDD's you might want to make sure which version of BIOS your mobo has shipped with as a quick check has shown that BIOS F5 updates the RAID ROM Version and it could help prevent any problems with your proposed RAID Array.
BIOS Updates can be found here: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3520&dl=1#bios
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Damn! I knew it was tempting fate saying his name out loud :o
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Heheheh... Definitely a cool community... ;D
For me, moving to AMD feels like a move to the Dark Side, but that does seem to be a Good Thing overall. ;)
@absic, one of my other shiny new toys is the CM690II Advanced. It has both a standard eSATA port and what they call an "External SATA X-dock" on top. Very cool design, that I'm surprised I've never seen before! You basically just slide any random SATA drive onto it, to use as a temporary external. Not sure what I'd be using the other one for yet, was just thinking ahead to the day when I might have a more "semi-permanently" attached external backup device (as I do now, more commonly, with external USB drives) and still want to slide one into the X-dock for a quickie.
Definitely planned to check the BIOS rev first, as well. So F5 is a good target? (Saw another thread were an F5a, I believe, had been mentioned.)
Thanks...
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For me, moving to AMD feels like a move to the Dark Side,
See Darth, the pupil learns fast!
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Hi Kep and a big welcome from Scotland..Yes you found the right place for help.. :)
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Thanks, Jannie! I will probably need it. There's this old saying...
"Beware of programmer's carrying screwdrivers."
:D
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@absic, hope I didn't mumble the wrong incantation by admitting to only now switching to AMD? ;)
Would it help if I said you got a cool avatar? I'm thinking, that's either Kaukonen or Brombeck? Sure I've seen it, or something very similar before. Well, either way, definitely a sign of very good taste. :)
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Still working on my <mumble> spells...
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Hi Kep, can I ask you to have a look at our poll,,,,help for absic and DM (suggestions )
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The latest BIOS for your board is actually F6 and you can safely update to this version as it should include the RAID ROM Update.
If you are going to use the e-SATA header on the Chassis (it looks nice) you might encounter a few problems. AHCI, in theory, allows hot-swapping of devices but there have been several posts on the forum of it not working in the manner expected. It seems that, if you connect the e-SATA header to one of the SATA ports on the motherboard, then any attached devices will only be properly recognised if they are switched on before you BOOT the system. I have no first hand experience to confirm this though.
Another issue that can sometimes arise is a problem with DVD/CD drives not being recognised when attached in AHCI mode. Looking through the Manual for your Mobo, if I was setting it up under the heading Integrated Peripherals I would:
1. Set OnChip SATA Controller to enabled
2. Set OnChip SATA Type to AHCI
3. Set OnChip SATA Port4/5 Type to As SATA Type
4. Set OnChip SATA RAID5 Support to enabled (you said you want to use RAID 5 so this needs to be set)
5. Set OnChip SATA3.0 Support to Disabled. (At the moment you don't have any SATA3 devices and this can be changed in the future when you upgrade HDD's)
6. Set Onboard SATA/IDE Ctrl to Enabled
7. Set OnBoard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode to IDE (Connect your DVD/CD Drive to one of these ports)
8. Set Onboard SATA/IDE Mode to IDE
@absic, hope I didn't mumble the wrong incantation by admitting to only now switching to AMD? ;)
Would it help if I said you got a cool avatar? I'm thinking, that's either Kaukonen or Brombeck? Sure I've seen it, or something very similar before. Well, either way, definitely a sign of very good taste. :)
No problem with you only just switching to AMD. Welcome to the light side. :D
My avatar is one that I designed, quite a long time ago, as a logo for myself when I was a professional musician. Pleased you like it1 :D
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Hi Absic --
Sure appreciate the level of detail there. Working on absorbing it all. It's a bit disconcerting to hear the AHCI isn't necessarily hot swappable. I thought that was one of the supposed main benefits of that mode? (Along with command queuing.)
Now, the rest of it is kind of jumbled, from this angle. I probably wasn't very clear originally in what I was envisioning to be connected. So, in addition to keeping the eSATA alive, inside the case I'd have:
Boot: 500gb RAID0 (striped), composed of 2x WD2500JS, SATA2
Data: 1tb RAID1 (mirrored), composed of 2x HD103SJ, SATA2
DVD: IDE
So...
1. Set OnChip SATA Controller to enabled
2. Set OnChip SATA Type to AHCI
3. Set OnChip SATA Port4/5 Type to As SATA Type
4. Set OnChip SATA RAID5 Support to enabled (you said you want to use RAID 5 so this needs to be set)
5. Set OnChip SATA3.0 Support to Disabled. (At the moment you don't have any SATA3 devices and this can be changed in the future when you upgrade HDD's)
6. Set Onboard SATA/IDE Ctrl to Enabled
7. Set OnBoard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode to IDE (Connect your DVD/CD Drive to one of these ports)
8. Set Onboard SATA/IDE Mode to IDE
What's unclear to me is which SATA ports on the mobo I'd plug which devices into under this configuration? It appears my choices for AHCI are limited to either SATA3_0/1/2/3 or GSATA2_6/7? But if I were to use AHCI on GSATA2_6/7, it's unclear what becomes of the IDE controller. And if I set the OnChip SATA type to AHCI, then I don't see where all the RAID connections are made. Also, it seems your suggestion #4 is in conflict with #2? But I didn't envision RAID5, so that's probably immaterial.
My avatar is one that I designed, quite a long time ago, as a logo for myself when I was a professional musician. Pleased you like it1 Cheesy
Slick. Found the graphics I believe it reminded me of. It was David Bromberg's (not Brombeck!) first and most recent album covers...
http://www.amazon.com/Try-Me-One-More-Time/dp/B000LP4OBU
http://www.amazon.com/David-Bromberg/dp/B000RMJ584/ref=pd_sim_m_5
Sorry to go OT.
Thanks again...
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Hi Kep, can I ask you to have a look at our poll,,,,help for absic and DM (suggestions )
Not familiar with the nooks and crannies here yet. Where be the poll?
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You can install the drive as a single drive on a RAID array. You will have to install the raid driver before it will see the HDD during the Windows setup.
After the POST memory test begins and before the operating system boot begins, look for a message which says "Press <Ctrl-F> to enter RAID Option ROM Utility". You need to have the single drive configured in the RAID Utility as something like Non-RAID.
I would install AMD SATA AHCI Driver, AMD SATA RAID Driver, and GIGABYTE SATA2 Preinstall driver (For AHCI / RAID Mode) with a floppy disk at the beginning of Windows installation. You can download drivers from Gigabyte. I believe the files need to be extracted prior to putting the drivers on a floppy disk. I think clicking the .exe file runs the self-extractor.
You have the option to run SATA3_4/SATA3_5 connectors in IDE mode if you would like to run a SATA optical drive from there. You should enable RAID for the AMD SB850 as ACHI will also work in RAID mode if you have the driver installed. Using the GIGABYTE SATA2 Chip for your hot-swap drives means you should have ACHI mode enabled as hot-swap is not available under IDE mode.
I would install your RAID 1 drives after installing the operating system on your single drive. You would need to reenter the RAID Option Utility and create the array. Specifying the boot drive is also an option in the BIOS.
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Hi Tiger --
Okay, good stuff. I don't have a floppy, but am pretty sure 7x64 allows driver loads from USB, right? (Guess I can snatch/borrow a floppy, temporarily, if need be though.) I do see all three drivers for download on Gigabyte's site, so that's reassuring. Just as I'm only now switching to AMD, I'm also only now getting away from the security of always having Dell drivers readily accessible.
I think adding the data drives after getting the OS up is also a smart move. One step at a time.
Do you know what becomes of the IDE controller if I set SATA2 to AHCI? The manual is silent on that. If need be, I can scrounge a SATA DVD drive, but for some reason I had thought it might offload [something] if I went IDE on that. Maybe I'm getting confused here about running SATA ports in IDE mode. Does that have anything to do with the IDE connector on the motherboard? Or will that work regardless of how the SATA ports are configured?
Thanks...
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The G-SATA controller also controls the IDE . That's why I suggested you set the G-SATA controller to IDE. This will allow you to run your DVD/CD drive if it is IDE or SATA.
Yes, you can install the necessary drivers from a USB Stick so you don't have to worry about running a Floppy Drive. I actually disable this feature in BIOS as I never use a Floppy these days.
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I seem to have some sort of mental block here...
I just don't see which ports I'd be plugging 4 internal SATA drives into, if they're a mix of RAID 0/1, in addition to the two eSATA /w AHCI (so six SATA ports in use on the mobo altogether), while maintaining the option of using an IDE optical drive. :-[
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Sorry I think I got confused somewhere along the line.
Originally I thought you said you were going to be using a single drive for the OS which you would be replacing in the future when SSD's become a little more affordable.
If that is still the case then if you set the G-SATA ports to RAID/IDE in BIOS you can put your RAID Array onto these ports. If you look at page 7 of your user's manual they are shown as GSATA2_6 & GSATA2_7. This will allow your IDE DVD/CD drive to also work.
Then Set the SATA3_0 through SATA3_5 Ports to AHCI and use two of the ports for your E-SATA and another one for your OS HDD. You won't need RAID 0 for your OS as a single HDD will be OK
You can't set-up both RAID 0 and RAID 1 and get the E-SATA connections too.
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Sorry I think I got confused somewhere along the line.
Originally I thought you said you were going to be using a single drive for the OS which you would be replacing in the future when SSD's become a little more affordable.
Ahhh, dang... Yeah, I did, didn't I? That's the problem with having this conversation in multiple venues. I came across a second drive and the thought of going RAID0 for the boot seemed like a nice option to get the most speed out of the older disks.
I'm really sorry for injecting that level of confusion here.
If that is still the case then if you set the G-SATA ports to RAID/IDE in BIOS you can put your RAID Array onto these ports. If you look at page 7 of your user's manual they are shown as GSATA2_6 & GSATA2_7. This will allow your IDE DVD/CD drive to also work.
Then Set the SATA3_0 through SATA3_5 Ports to AHCI and use two of the ports for your E-SATA and another one for your OS HDD. You won't need RAID 0 for your OS as a single HDD will be OK
Okay, in light of what I told you, yeah, this makes sense now.
You can't set-up both RAID 0 and RAID 1 and get the E-SATA connections too.
Ouch. That hurts. So, long term, would a $10 add-in card solve that if I didn't need the eSATA right away?
Thanks...
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Yes, that would be a good option.
You could set the SATA3_0 through SATA3_5 to RAID instead of AHCI. You can then set-up RAID 0 on here for your OS
The GSATA ports can stay as I previously stated for your RAID 1 and your IDE DVD/CD drive. As Tiger said it would be better to install this RAID Array after you have the OS installed.
The add-in card can be used for your E-SATA and will probably be a much better option.
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Heh, it's almost comical, isn't it? A motherboard with eight SATA ports, and I'm looking at needing to add more???
One of those laugh/cry kinda things... I guess what leads one towards the laughter though, is that it makes sense in a truly perverted way.
Now I just need to sort out what I really want to do, here. Probably should've taken some of the initial advice I got elsewhere, and just put a chunk of the money into one of those NAS devices (eg, http://www.readynas.com/?p=331).
Thanks much...
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Okay, just so all the cards are on the table... What if I were to decide to go ahead and get some sort of NAS device, for longer-term *safe* storage of important data. Then, just skip the RAID1 (data) array altogether (install the disks singly), but leave the RAID0 (boot) array in place. Would there be a better optimal configuration in that scenario? Something that'd leave all control on the mobo?
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If that were the case then I would probably set the SATA3 ports to IDE or AHCI (personally I would use IDE Mode).
The GSATA Ports I would leave as I previously stated and use them for the RAID0.
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If that were the case then I would probably set the SATA3 ports to IDE or AHCI (personally I would use IDE Mode).
The GSATA Ports I would leave as I previously stated and use them for the RAID0.
Interesting. Why the preference for IDE over AHCI?
Isn't AHCI the only way I'd - potentially - get hot plugging on the externals? I ask because I'm also considering just ordering a SATA DVD drive, and forgetting about trying to get any IDE devices running, versus the need to add an expansion card for the eSATA ports.
Thanks...
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Hi,
The only reason I pick IDE Mode over AHCI is that I have found it more robust and also I don't need hot-swapping capabilities.
Even if you get a SATA DVD/CD writer you could find that it struggles when connected in AHCI mode.
I think the option of an add-on card for your e-SATA devices is the more reliable solution and will cause less of an issue with your HDD's and RAID array.
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Really appreciate your insight there! :)
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Yes would have to agree with absic there regarding the use of AHCI on optical drives. Not a good idea. ;)
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Hopefully I am not hijacking this post..
I have the same motherboard and am having troubles setting up a simple RAID 1.
First off I was able to take my drives from an older computer and was able to boot into windows 7 x64 just fine.
I loaded up the drivers off the Gigabyte disk that came with the MB.. booted and used the computer for a day or two.
Then tried to setup the RAID but unfortunately I KILLED my data.. even though I never got a warning on this..
Now I had an old mirror of my drive which I put back on one of the TB drives and loading things up to about where I need to be..
I have 2 1TB seagate SATA 7200rmp drives and one SATA DVD/CD Burner..
What is the best configuration for this and what it the correct procedure to add the 2nd drive and create the RAID 1 configuration without destroying my existing data.
I believe all the drivers are loaded any way to double check?
I thought I installed the RAIDXpert software but I do not have anything loading at the appropriate localhost url.
Thanks
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Also I did upgrade to F6 just recently.. (after my first OPPS)
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Hi there collidingstar,
I have to own up and say I am not too savvy with RAID although I have played with it a bit I have always found it gave me more trouble than anything else.
Looking through the User's Manual (page 85 - 90), I think in your situation you would need to use the GSATA2 ports for your RAID1 Array. I'm not sure if you will be able to re-build this or, if you would have to start over again.
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Hi Kep,,If you go to home page and look for off topic section,The poll is in the suggestions page.Under the heading ( hepl for absic and dm )
Where would we be without these experts
Dave
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Hi there collidingstar,
I have to own up and say I am not too savvy with RAID although I have played with it a bit I have always found it gave me more trouble than anything else.
Looking through the User's Manual (page 85 - 90), I think in your situation you would need to use the GSATA2 ports for your RAID1 Array. I'm not sure if you will be able to re-build this or, if you would have to start over again.
I am wondering if the GSATA2 setup would be easier..
granted those are 6gb/s ports but neither are my drives.
I also found this post which might be worth while to try..
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=300318 (http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=300318)
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Hi
That's why I suggested using the GSATA2 ports rather than the SATA3. If I understand what you are trying to do I would have thought you could use your original disk, add the second one and then build your RAID 1 Array.
Reading through the link you have posted, this would seem to back-up my theory that you can achieve this but, they also add a strong note of caution that not all RAID chips allow you to do this and there is the risk of losing your data.
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Hi Kep,,If you go to home page and look for off topic section,The poll is in the suggestions page.Under the heading ( hepl for absic and dm )
Where would we be without these experts
Well, they got my vote! I will say, though, it was tough deciding which option to choose. :D
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Hi
That's why I suggested using the GSATA2 ports rather than the SATA3. If I understand what you are trying to do I would have thought you could use your original disk, add the second one and then build your RAID 1 Array.
Reading through the link you have posted, this would seem to back-up my theory that you can achieve this but, they also add a strong note of caution that not all RAID chips allow you to do this and there is the risk of losing your data.
So using the GIGABYTE Raid is easier I take it?
I had a CHEAP pcchips AM2 board that I got for nothing.. can't remember who's SATA Raid controller but it was dead simple..and it's nice to be able to take a drive out and be able to read it in any SATA machine.. Doesn't anyone ever follow the KISS method anymore?
Any downside to using GSATA2? speed?
As far as the VOTE.. YOU GOT MINE AS WELL.
Thanks..
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I haven't had any real issues using the GSATA2 ports in RAID or for controlling individual drives. As for speed it is SATA2 so no problem there.
Thanks for the vote it is appreciated. ;)
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Will the procedure be obvious as I go though it?
If I ran though the installation disk are the drivers all loaded or is that another step I need to make sure I do?
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If you have already loaded the drivers then there shouldn't be a problem. It might be worthwhile having them ready again on a USB stick just in case.
When you go into the RAID set-up utility it should be fairly straight forward. If you check page 86 of the User's Manual it shows the option to Rebuild Mirror Drive which I think is what you want to do. The only problem I can foresee is, if your System Disk isn't recognised as being a RAID Disk as this is the stage it might want to erase the drive.
If your main drive isn't accepted as part of the RAID then you will need to build it and that is why you need to make sure you have a back-up of your system drive to re-install, as mentioned in the anandtech's forum thread.
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...and it's nice to be able to take a drive out and be able to read it in any SATA machine.. Doesn't anyone ever follow the KISS method anymore?
This is what's hanging me up. My fear with striping is the loss of that very simple, and incredibly useful, capability. I'm considering going RAID10, but there's this irritating little voice telling me it's just asking for trouble...
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it's just asking for trouble...
Sorry I just couldn't help it!
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That's why I just want a simple mirror..
My servers all have RAID 5.. but on my workstation.. I just want the mirror incase of Drive failure..
and the ability to move to another machine..
Sure I could get more speed going another route.. but I'll survive for now..
Maybe if I get a Solid State I'll do things differently..
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To be honest,
I gave up on RAID and just keep a back-up image of my main HDD in case of failures. Windows 7 Back-up is actually pretty good at this and I have used it without a problem.
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it's just asking for trouble...
Thanks again, little voice... ;)
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That's why I just want a simple mirror..
My servers all have RAID 5.. but on my workstation.. I just want the mirror incase of Drive failure..
and the ability to move to another machine..
Sure I could get more speed going another route.. but I'll survive for now..
Maybe if I get a Solid State I'll do things differently..
Yeah, I hear ya. I am thinking that I'll probably add an SSD as boot drive when they get a little more reasonable in price. Although, I have also been eyeing those Seagate Momentus XT (http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/laptops/laptop-hdd) hybrid drives for that, as well. But for data, it's just darn hard to beat the comfort of a mirror.
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To be honest,
I gave up on RAID and just keep a back-up image of my main HDD in case of failures. Windows 7 Back-up is actually pretty good at this and I have used it without a problem.
I'm still using Robocopy, but I probably ought to take a closer look at what they've done with that. I never did get along with the XP/2k/NT/9x versions all that well.
I think the part of me that's arguing against relying solely on backups (aside from the part of me that just doesn't do it as religiously as called for!), is that it seems the user reviews on today's bigger hard drives are showing a far higher failure rate than they used to. I don't know if that's just my imagination, or if folks are writing more (negative) reviews now than they did before, or if I'm just paying more attention lately, or __________?
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I think that recently you might have a point. The quality of manufacture doesn't seem to be as good. I suppose as the price has been driven down something has had to give.
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I think that recently you might have a point. The quality of manufacture doesn't seem to be as good. I suppose as the price has been driven down something has had to give.
There has always been manufacturers that made quality..
and ones that made sub par..
Sometimes it was across the board..
Sometimes is was specific models.
I still will not buy a western digital to this day because of the junk they made in the early and mid 90's which never lasted..
Like anything else it's always good to read reviews... and never buy anything as soon as it comes out..
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It's a roller-coaster. I used to be that way with WD, but now they seem to be on a comeback and the company that bought them (Seagate) is on the downward trend. It's puzzling. So I'm buying Samsung, because the benchmarks scream (http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/high_end_drives.html). Heh, who knows? With RAID1, it's hopefully only an inconvenience, huh?
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Yes it does seem to go in cycles or trends doesn't it. For a while it will be one manufacturer leading the pack then they will fall from favour and it will be a different one.
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The latest BIOS for your board is actually F6 and you can safely update to this version as it should include the RAID ROM Update.
Well, that was far less painful than I might've been led to imagine. :)
For folks searching on flashing their BIOS, one piece of information I hadn't found in other threads is that the QFlash utility will allow you to navigate the folder structure on a USB thumb drive. Being superstitious, I had the necessary file in the root, but it could've been anywhere. Also, when asked, I had to pick "Floppy" drive for some reason. This machine doesn't even have one, but that's how QFlash recognized the USB device.
One thing I haven't seen yet is a way to confirm the BIOS rev from within the BIOS? The only apparent indication is during that POST screen, which is fairly well hidden by the advertising logo and/or whizzes by so fast as to actually never really appear. I have found that a hard reset, without the logo, allows me to hit Pause at just the right moment to see the revision. Bit of a hassle, though.
Anyway, I'm at F6, and ready to tackle getting Windows on! Thanks again...
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Hi there,
To see what revision your BIOS version is try pressing the F9 key when you are on the BIOS home screen. This will also show you what version the Back-up BIOS is.
It is a good idea if the two versions of BIOS are the same to get your main BIOS copied to the Back-up chip you need to press ALT+F12 whilst Booting the PC. If you are using a USB keyboard you might have trouble doing this and it is more successful if you use a PS2 keyboard for this procedure.
Funny that your USB stick is seen as a Floppy Drive, mine is always seen as an HDD. But you are right about being able to navigate through the folders on the USB stick to find the update file.
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Funny that your USB stick is seen as a Floppy Drive, mine is always seen as an HDD.
I think absic that is because you have disabled your floppy drive in the BIOS so it has no option but to display it as a HDD. Of course also it can make a difference as to what you tell it to boot from in the BIOS boot preferences.
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To see what revision your BIOS version is try pressing the F9 key when you are on the BIOS home screen. This will also show you what version the Back-up BIOS is.
Nice. I hadn't noticed that in the manual. And, it confirms my main BIOS is F6 while the backup is F4.
It is a good idea if the two versions of BIOS are the same to get your main BIOS copied to the Back-up chip you need to press ALT+F12 whilst Booting the PC. If you are using a USB keyboard you might have trouble doing this and it is more successful if you use a PS2 keyboard for this procedure.
I'd like to do this, but am not sure that's the ticket on this system? I did a search for F12 in the manual, and there's absolutely no mention of this method. Or, it seems, of any method to backup to the DualBIOS. And, when I do press Alt-F12 following the post, it takes me to the boot menu just as it would if I hadn't had the Alt key pressed. So it's definitely seeing the F12, but isn't seeming to pay any attention to the Alt. Does that make any sense?
Thanks...
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The two options are not printed in the manual mainly because Gigabyte doesn't want people in general using them. The ALT + F12 is correct but it sometimes can take a couple of tries before getting it right. It's also possible that there's a problem with your keyboard.
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The two options are not printed in the manual mainly because Gigabyte doesn't want people in general using them. The ALT + F12 is correct but it sometimes can take a couple of tries before getting it right. It's also possible that there's a problem with your keyboard.
Damn! I simply didn't take his admonition to try a PS/2 keyboard strongly enough, I guess.
Apologies, absic! I pulled out an old keyboard, and sure enough, that got me right into that option.
Thanks again, guys!
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See, just because your old, it doesn't mean your useless. (That will make DM very happy because he is old..... very old!)
I bet your old PS2 Keyboard loved being given the chance to play and it's a useful thing to keep in mind when playing with BIOS settings. ;)
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Hey I'm not that old....just prematurely grey!
That is one of those times where you are glad you didn't throw out that old hardware. ;)
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See, just because your old, it doesn't mean your useless. (That will make DM very happy because he is old..... very old!)
Heh, now I just need to find a use for those old IBM keyboards (with the AT plugs!) I have hoarded away.
I bet your old PS2 Keyboard loved being given the chance to play and it's a useful thing to keep in mind when playing with BIOS settings. ;)
Yeah, I think I still have about three of those original Microsoft Natural keyboards in the basement, wishing they too were let out on occasion. Never seen the need for one to get into BIOS stuff, but this is a great excuse to give my wife! ;)
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Ah, we all need excuses to get stuff past our wives, that's why we come here, to share these excuses so we can all gain! :D
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Heh, now I just need to find a use for those old IBM keyboards (with the AT plugs!) I have hoarded away.
Yeah, I think I still have about three of those original Microsoft Natural keyboards in the basement, wishing they too were let out on occasion. Never seen the need for one to get into BIOS stuff, but this is a great excuse to give my wife! ;)
I did get shot of the old AT versions a few years ago when I really couldn't find any use for them any more but as you say it is a good excuse to keep old gear when the wife has a spring clean. ;)
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Are you still holding on to that tandy tsr-80 still????
You can always say to the wife..
"But the Smithsonian asked me to hold on to this for them...."
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Are you still holding on to that tandy tsr-80 still????
No, but there is a Leading Edge Model D (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leading_Edge_Model_D) in the attic.
You can always say to the wife..
"But the Smithsonian asked me to hold on to this for them...."
She's heard that one before! ;)
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That's the trouble .....they have heard them all before :'(
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quick question..
How do I get RAIDXpert installed???
I have downloaded the Raid Drivers.. I went to AMD and download the raid package.. Tried everything I could find an no luck..
It finishes fine..
Looks like it runs as a service? then everything is web based..
This is for the AMD RAID Controller not the Gigabyte..