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Questions about GIGABYTE products => Motherboards with AMD processors => Topic started by: AndersCN on November 09, 2010, 10:48:05 am
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Hello,
I recently updated my BIOS from F2 to now F9. After this, the above mentioned message appears.
I did the update stepwise, i.e. F2->F4->F7->F9. I used Q-flash from a Fat32 Memory-stick
The reason for the update is, that I want to install the Phenom II X6 1090T Processor in the MB.
In additon to this, I experience BSOD and that the rig goes into "Start-Repair" upon boot. The longer time the rig has been closed down, the worse the boot.
After the update, I did a complete reinstall of W7/64 on my rig - still this happens.
My MB is: GA-MA770-UD3P rev 1.0
Any suggestions?
Best regards,
Anders
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Hi and welcome to the Gigabyte Forum.
I expect what happened was that you neglected to disable the Keep DMI Data on the QFlash homepage when you did the BIOS update. So you will need to reflash the latest version and make sure that you select the disable option this time.
It's possible that you also have some other problem but deal with one thing at a time.
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Hello Dark,
Thank you for the tip. I did reflash yesterday evening and disabled KEEP DMI DATA.
The message still appears during boot, however sometimes only AMD DATA CHANGE.... comes up, other times the full message comes up.
I did a few reboots after reflash, and the miserable situation with BSOD and "Start Repair" was not there. However, as I mentioned in my first post, this seems mainly to happen when starting from a "cold" pc, everything I did yesterday after reflash was from a "warm" pc - I will have to give this a couple of days, so I´ve had the opportunity to make a couple of "cold" starts.
Best Regards,
Anders
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To be honest Anders I am not the best one to advise you on the AMD side of things and I have a feeling I remember something about this being a known issue with this board but it is not a problem.
I am sure that absic could confirm or deny this for you.
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As DM says the AMD Data Change...Update New Data to DMI is an annoyance but is not a problem. This happens at every BOOT but is normally hidden by the BIOS so you don't see it.
As you are having these issues and you have updated BIOS I would suggest the you properly clear CMOS. If you're not sure how to do that DM wrote a "How To" if you check here: http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,2286.0.html
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Thanks,
I will give it a try.
Will a cleared CMOS mean that the MB goes back to the original BIOS version?
Best Regards,
Anders
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Hi there,
No clearing CMOS won't make your BIOS revert to the original version so don't worry about that.
But it will clear any changes you have made to the BIOS and return the motherboard to it's basic state. Once you have cleared CMOS you need to go back into BIOS and load Optimised Defaults and then Reboot the PC.
I would advise leaving everything at it's default setting in BIOS until we can establish what exactly is causing your problems.
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Hello,
Well, I have now cleared the CMOS and "Loaded Optimized Defaults" during the first boot.
But I still get Blue screen of Death and "Star Repair" during boot, around 50% of the times..
What next?
BR
Anders
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Hi Anders,
If you could post back with your full system specs it would help as the BSOD's could be caused by many things.
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And with the BSOD message code would help.
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OK, here you go;
CPU: AMD Phenom II X3 710
GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4890
MB: Gigabyte GA-MA 770- UD3P rev 1.0 (originally with BIOS F2, now F9 because I want to upgrade to X6 1090t)
RAM: 8 GB 1333 MHZ Dual Channel
PSU; 750 Watt
OS; Windows 7/64 bit Home Premium (came originally with Vista HP 64 bit, but I used the free upgrade to Windows 7 when available in October 2009).
I will post the BSOD kode when it happens again. Please note, this only happens during boot.
BR,
Anders
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Can you be more specific on what memory and PSU you are using please. ;)
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RAM: Kingston DDR3-1333 MHz 4x2GB
PSU; Energon EPS 750 Watt Low Noise
BR,
Anders
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Have you set your memory manually as that will be required no doubt as you have filled all the slots and so put a greater load on the memory controllers. I expect you will have to increase the memory voltage slightly to compensate. I will have to leave it up to absic to give you the precise amounts.
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Hi Anders,
If your RAM Voltage is specified as 1.65V or thereabouts you will probably have to manually set this as the motherboard will normally default to 1.5V.
You need to do this under the MIT Section of BIOS. When you increase the voltage you will get an overclock warning in red showing in BIOS but don't worry as long as you don't increase the voltage above its rated specifications you will be OK.
Without the actual RAM product number it is difficult to offer any firm advice on the best settings for your timings and voltage but I would set voltage to its correct rating and leave the timings alone at first. They will probably be a little looser than the RAM is capable of running at but getting your system stable is of more importance at this stage.
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Hello Absic,
The memory is Kingston KVR1333D3N9/2G.
Specified with 1,5V +/- 0,075V
BR,
Anders
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Hi Anders,
Well the good news is that your RAM appears on the QVL for Gigabyte and Kingston. But that doesn't explain why you are getting the BSOD's. :'(
You could try increasing the voltage a little but, being frank, I don't think you should need to so, before we go tweaking in BIOS it might be better to run through some more basic checks first.
Have you tested your RAM using Memtest?
If not I would suggest you do this first as it is possible you have a faulty module. Test each stick individually for at least 10 passes and use the memory slot on the motherboard nearest the CPU.
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I ran Memtest of the first 2000 MB. and immediately this error came out:
"Copying between 401919b and 401904f did not result in accurate copy"
MemTest has detected, that your computer cannot accurately store data in RAM.
And a few minutes later I got BSOD:
Technical information:
***Stop: 0x0000000A (0x00000000A7E5E2F7,0x000000000000000D,0x0000000000000000,0xFFFFF80002AE5594)
BR
Anders
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Hello,
Yesterday evening I ran all 4 memory sticks through MemTest individually in the first slot nearest to the CPU. Three of the sticks have no errors after 150%, after which I stopped the test. The fourth however had recorded 10 errors like the ones mentioned above, only after 10%, after which I stopped the test.
So appearently, one of the memory sticks is damaged. Now, should I also check the remaing three Memory slots with the good Memory sticks, to check for eventual errors there as well?
You mention 10 passes per stick. Does than mean 1000%?
BR,
Anders
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Hi Anders,
From what you are saying it would seem you have found the problem, the stick of RAM that isn't passing Memtest. If you bought the RAM as a single 8 GB kit then you will need to RMA all of the memory modules not just the faulty one so running further tests is rather pointless.
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Hello Absic,
Well, I am happy to see light at the end of the tunnel :)
It was not me who build the PC, but I think that the RAM used was two pairs with 4GB each.
Now, from my previous experience, I rarely use more than 3 GB, so two 2GB sticks should be enough.
So the second problem now is, that I pulled out the 4 sticks, without noticing which were paired. Would it be wrong just to use two of the three good ones, without taking notice of which ones were paired?
My second question; If I have to buy new 4GB RAM, would it be any benefit at all to use a pair of 2 GB RAM DDR3-1600 in stead of my current DDR3-1333?
BR,
Anders
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Hi Anders,
As you have got 3 good sticks why not use those for the time being, giving you 6 GB of RAM? I have quite often had to pull one of my RAM sticks from my own system when doing testing and other things so I know you can run with 3X2GB sticks without a problem. My own RAM is made up of two kits and they got mixed up ages ago and I haven't had any problems so I don't think you need to worry too much about that side of things.
I actually have 1600MHz RAM that I have down clocked to 1333MHz with the cost of RAM it might be cheaper to buy 1600MHz RAM and do this yourself. It doesn't usually cause any problems but it does give you some room for movement when it comes to overclocking.
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Hi Absic,
OK, I´ll plug in the three good ones and redo the Memtest. I just thought that it needed an even number of sticks (2 or 4) to work as Dual-Channel. But maybe I missed something here.. ::)
If finally the BSOD disappears, I have to decide whether I will get an X4 965 or an X6 1090 for Christmas.
BR,
Anders
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When you fill three of the slots on the motherboard you will be running in Dual channel mode, so no problems there.
If you can afford it go for the 1090T, it's the CPU I am using and it is pretty impressive!
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Hello Absic,
Thanks for the advice through this thread. Yes, that 1090t is tempting..
So if I downclock 1600 MHz RAM to 1333 MHz, do I then also need to decrease RAM voltage as well? I mean most 1600 MHz is rated at 1,65 volts, where as 1333 MHz RAM normally is 1,5 volts?
BR,
Anders
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Hi Anders,
one of the advantages of downclocking your RAM to 1333 MHz is that the voltage can also come down so you are creating less heat in your system. My RAM is rated at 1.65V but has been running happily at 1.5V for several months.
If you find you are still getting the odd BSOD, because the RAM is underclocked you can safely increase the voltage a little to try and help, which is another advantage.