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Questions about GIGABYTE products => Motherboards with AMD processors => Topic started by: bunya on November 16, 2010, 01:40:13 am

Title: ga-890fxa-ud5 external esata
Post by: bunya on November 16, 2010, 01:40:13 am
Hi I purchased a 'delock' cable for this function (back panel) and it does not work..the ports function ok as usb but not powered sata..the drives i have tried do not power up! I have updated bios and also the Jmicron drivers..and help please?
Title: Re: ga-890fxa-ud5 external esata
Post by: Tiger on November 16, 2010, 02:48:29 am
A single eSATA/USB cable can now power up an eSATA/USB capable device as compared to the original eSATA device which requires an external power source. Older eSATA devices will still need an external power source.

Title: Re: ga-890fxa-ud5 external esata
Post by: bunya on November 16, 2010, 04:03:13 am
The cable i have is a eSATAp cable!
Title: Re: ga-890fxa-ud5 external esata
Post by: Dark Mantis on November 16, 2010, 09:32:05 am
As Tiger has said the older style drives cannot be powered from the new style ports and will still need an external power source.
Title: Re: ga-890fxa-ud5 external esata
Post by: bunya on November 16, 2010, 10:17:51 am
i have tried recently purchased sata drives!
Title: Re: ga-890fxa-ud5 external esata
Post by: bunya on November 16, 2010, 10:19:18 am
What exactly is a new 'style' drive? Thanks for you help.
Title: Re: ga-890fxa-ud5 external esata
Post by: Dark Mantis on November 16, 2010, 10:58:47 am
Well actually we were talking about enclosures to be precise not drives themselves. Should have made it clear, sorry.
Title: Re: ga-890fxa-ud5 external esata
Post by: bunya on November 16, 2010, 11:02:42 am
I am attaching it directly on to the sata drives on my desk.
Title: Re: ga-890fxa-ud5 external esata
Post by: Dark Mantis on November 16, 2010, 11:11:00 am
I am attaching it directly on to the sata drives on my desk.

So what do you have connected to the SATA power connection on the drive?
Title: Re: ga-890fxa-ud5 external esata
Post by: bunya on November 16, 2010, 11:11:45 am
this is the cable http://www.darkwire.com.au/html/cable_esatap_5v_12v_to_sata_22.html
Title: Re: ga-890fxa-ud5 external esata
Post by: Dark Mantis on November 16, 2010, 11:14:11 am
Oh I see, that should work then. What USB port are you connecting it to?

Can you try the cable attached to another computer?
Title: Re: ga-890fxa-ud5 external esata
Post by: bunya on November 16, 2010, 01:32:39 pm
I (see above) have attached to both power over esata on back panel..the drives do not even power up..those ports work ok for usb but not esata...read above!
Title: Re: ga-890fxa-ud5 external esata
Post by: bunya on November 16, 2010, 01:35:10 pm
Hi I purchased a 'delock' cable for this function (back panel) and it does not work..the ports function ok as usb but not powered sata..the drives i have tried do not power up! I have updated bios and also the Jmicron drivers..and help please?
Title: Re: ga-890fxa-ud5 external esata
Post by: absic on November 16, 2010, 01:40:25 pm
Hi there,

I have this motherboard but can't find out if the e-SATA ports actually supply power like the USB ports do. I have asked Gigabyte about this and will post back as soon as I have an answer for you.
Title: Re: ga-890fxa-ud5 external esata
Post by: bunya on November 16, 2010, 01:51:01 pm
this is the blurb on gigabyte for the connections
"eSATA/USB combo
eSATA/USB combo ports provides significant convenience by supporting eSATA and USB devices in one port, and requires no additional power source when connecting eSATA/USB combo devices through the applicable cable. "
Title: Re: ga-890fxa-ud5 external esata
Post by: bunya on November 16, 2010, 01:52:13 pm
Perhaps that means the usb is powered and the esata not???????????
Title: Re: ga-890fxa-ud5 external esata
Post by: absic on November 16, 2010, 01:56:27 pm
Well, as I said, I have asked the question but as I don't use e-SATA drives myself I'm not sure about their requirements.

My only experience with trying to use e-SATA wasn't very successful and I had to attach a separate power supply to the drive to get it to spin up and I was never able to get the drives to hot-swap.  :'(
Title: Re: ga-890fxa-ud5 external esata
Post by: Dark Mantis on November 16, 2010, 03:07:59 pm
Perhaps that means the usb is powered and the esata not???????????

Actually I think you could be quite correct there as when I received my board it came with a seperate eSATA panel connector as well as the ones on the rear panel and on this extra panel there was a power port along with two SATA ports. It  was also supplied with a Y cable to fit this outlet. As I don't have any eSATA drives I haven't used it.
Title: Re: ga-890fxa-ud5 external esata
Post by: bunya on November 17, 2010, 06:39:38 am
Methinks if they are not estap as the company makes one to believe it is somewhat misleading  information. Thanks all for your help.
Title: Re: ga-890fxa-ud5 external esata
Post by: bunya on November 17, 2010, 12:36:31 pm
This a reply from Gigabyte

"Thank you for your kindly mail and inquiry. About the issue you mentioned, the eSATA/USB Combo port does power supply. Please first make sure that you had already change the Onboard ESATA Mode to AHCI then you may need to re-install the OS and driver again for this function.

If you still have any further question or suggestion about our products/service, please do not hesitate to contact us. We will try our best to help you resolve the problem ASAP.

Regards,
GIGABYTE TECHNOLOGY "

I did as instructed and it did not work..yes I changed bios then reinstalled the os (win 7 64bit)
Title: Re: ga-890fxa-ud5 external esata
Post by: Dark Mantis on November 17, 2010, 01:47:02 pm
In that case I would update your question with GGTS and inform them of their error and see what they say.
Title: Re: ga-890fxa-ud5 external esata
Post by: absic on November 18, 2010, 08:11:12 am
Hi Bunya,

I got this reply from Gigabyte:
Quote
It depends on what kind of eSATA device is being used. If the eSATA device does not need an additional power source, then it can be detected after pluging into the back panel eSATA port. An example of such a device (eSATA without additional power) is: iMate eSATA SSD 32GB
(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1487/imateesata.jpg) (http://img526.imageshack.us/i/imateesata.jpg/)

So as a Hard drive needs an additional power source, that is why it doesn't work.

I have also been informed that Gigabyte have been asked to modify the description on the website to make things clearer.
Title: Re: ga-890fxa-ud5 external esata
Post by: bunya on November 18, 2010, 01:10:50 pm
Ahhhhh I hope that is the bottom line! I have tried everything under the sun (on and off) this week! Now I am wondering what on earth is the 'delock' cable good for! I did investigate the interior of the on-board port today and could not see any outer metal sheath for the 'gold' contacts (on the edges) to make contact with and to receive power. Good to hear GB will do something about the rather misleading (grey) information. I am 30 odd $s the wiser now..that MB keeps getting more expensive! Otherwise it seems to be a very fine board! Thanks all for your assistance.
Best
B
Title: Re: ga-890fxa-ud5 external esata
Post by: bunya on November 18, 2010, 01:24:07 pm
For clarification purposes it has been established  these ports are NOT 'Power over' eSATA but powered to a degree by the USB component oin them?
Please correct me if I am wrong.