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Questions about GIGABYTE products => Motherboards with Intel processors => Topic started by: Oubadah on January 14, 2011, 08:56:02 am
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I've just put together an i7 2600k based sysem with the GA-P67A-UD4 as motherboard, and I'm having an issue with running my RAM at it's rated speed.
I am NOT overclocking.
The RAM is Corsair Dominator GT CMT4GX3M2A2133C9, rated at 2133MHz/9-10-9-24/1.65v.
When I first ran the system, the RAM had defaulted to 1333MHz/9-9-9-24/1.5v, so I set the above values in the BIOS, and at first my RAM was running fine at 2133MHz.
But then after a few restarts the sytem restarted it'self half way through POST and I got this message:
"The system has experienced boot failures because of overclocking or changes in voltage. Latest settings in BIOS may not coincide with current H/W states"
Nothing is overclocked, I was just trying to run my RAM at it's rated specs, and 2133MHz is within the specs of the UD4 too.
What can I do? I'm running the latest BIOS F7b, and I've also tried older versions...
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Hi and welcome to the Gigabyte Forum.
I am afraid that you are overclocking by trying to run the RAM at it's rated speed. Anything over 1333 is overclocked as far as the JEDEC ratifications goes and although it is common practice it remains overclocking.
You could probably get the memory to run at somewhere near it's rating by setting it all up manually in the BIOS but it won't be happy at that speed on Auto.
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OK, well I guess technically speaking I'm overclocking then. But the RAM is rated at 2133MHz, and the UD4 is rated at 2133MHz by Gigabyte, so there shouldn't be any problem.
You say it's 'not happy at that speed at auto'. Does that mean I need to configure anything else in the BIOS? (apart from RAM clock, timings and voltage)
I've already tried raising the RAM voltage a little higher, and the QPI voltage.
Also, can someone tell me what the difference is between 'Standard', 'Turbo' and 'Extreme' for Performance Enhance (As found in Advanced Memory Settings). What exactly do they do?
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This has really tainted my formerly flawless experience with Gigabyte motherboards.
I'm hoping that Gigabyte will be able to fix my issues with BIOS uptates.
Really, the board seems perfectly stable once it has finished booting - I haven't had one single crash or blue screen etc. in Windows or any program, no matter what my RAM settings are. And I've run memtest for 14 hours @ 2133MHz with no error at all. It's just getting past POST that seems to be the problem; frequent error messages, resetting my configurations, reflashing to backup BIOS, mini boot loops etc... It's driving me mad! But once the system has actually booted, no issues...
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Did you download the new version of @BIOS program to run the initial update of your BIOS as the included version doesn't work properly. Once updated the BIOS seems to accept QFlash for subsequent installs of finished updates. It could just be a BIOS update that didn't take properly.
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Did you download the new version of @BIOS program to run the initial update of your BIOS as the included version doesn't work properly. Once updated the BIOS seems to accept QFlash for subsequent installs of finished updates. It could just be a BIOS update that didn't take properly.
I had to use @BIOS to flash to F7b (QFlash wasn't working after it reset itself to F3). I used @BIOS 2.10. Now I've used QFlash to F7d (latest), but I've noticed no improvement (the moment I set 2133MHz, it rebooted half way through POST and reset to 1333MHz generic settings again).
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I am experiencing exactly the same problem here, can we get some help ? Been trying to fix it for almost a month now.
MOBO: Gigabyte P67A-UD5 with latest BIOS - F6D (F6 is out, havent tested it yet). Flashed with the proper version of @BIOS w/o any problems. Both main bios and back up bios.
CPU: i7 2600K
RAM: G.SKILL Pi Series 2133mhz 7-10-7-27 1.65v
PSU: SilverStone Olympia OP750 - 60A on the 12V line...
I have tested the memory with memtest for about 1 hour and no errors. The system is rock solid once i manage to boot in Windows all day long. But as soon as i shut it down and boot up later on, it gives me the message where the clocks have failed and reverts the memory back to 1333mhz. At this point the bios remembered my settings so all i have to do is hit SAVE and EXIT and than it loads at 2133mz fine. But why is it having a problem when i power down the system and boot up later ? Its extremely annoying. Thera are at least 2 more people from other foprums tha ti know of and who have this problem so it is not an isolated issue. I feel the motherboard "testing" scripts on boot up are extremely sensitive due to the DUAL bios deal. This needs to change, i have been having the mobo for about a month now from BIOS F3 all the way to F6D i still have the problem.
If i leave the memory on AUto - 1333mhz, there is no problem and it boots up fine after i power it down. Even at 4.9 ghz CPU and it is stable. Only when i change the RAM settings it reports the "overclock failed" issues and than i have to go in bios again and SAVE and EXIT. I tried setting the ram to 1866mhz but i still get ths issue. I tried even 1600Mhz, the same issue. I tried QPI/VTT up to 1.2v, no help it still says overclcoks failed after a shut down and boot up later. At the same time, the system is perfectly stable at 2133mhz 7-10-7-27 1.65v 4.9Ghz CPU. Ran Prime 95 for 4 hours to test out the CPU, memtes for 1 hour, Lin X with latest libraries - everything registers stable but it will double boot after i shut down and it will report failed clocks for some reason.
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Hi and welcome to the Gigabyte Forum.
First thing I notice is that you have 1.65v memory. This is more than the 1.5v rating for this motherboard. Are you trying to run it at 1.65v if so that could be a problem. In fact you could possibly burn out your memory controller on the CPU.
You are unlikely to run the memory at the full rated speed unless you are overclocking anyway but you should be able to get 1600+ Mhz out of it and maybe even tighten the timings a touch.
One hour for Memtest86+ is nowhere near enough. If you want to do the test properly follow these instructions.
Memtest86+ V4.20 Beta 13 http://www.memtest.org/
Insert one stick of memory in slot 1 and run Memtest on it for at least 10 loops and if there are no errors then swap it over with the next one and continue untill you have checked all modules.
If you have any errors the module is faulty.
If you have any faulty modules you will have to return the whole kit as they are matched.
Post back when you have done that with the results.
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There are G.SKILL memories (Ripjaw X) certified for the new P67 and this motherboard specifically ( Gigabyte P67A-UD5) at 1.65v so burning anything at this voltage is some kind of a mistake. I will try this memtest but i seriously doubt that my memories are faulty. I will even tried running them at 1600mhz but the same thing happens. I even tried running them at 1333mhz at 1.5v - the default which the motherboard sets them when it fails and that did not work, stangre totally. So basically anything i set in the BIOS manually, it doesnt want to boot up.
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You didn't mention how much memory you have installed. If you are using all the slots then it will put an extra load on the memory controller which will have to be compensated for.
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Two sticks 2 GB each - 2x2Gb. I am also aware that 4 sticks are not compatible. I also tried different slots, slot 1 and 3, slots 2 and 4, it does the same thing with both pair of slots. Just today another guy in G.SKILL forum reported the same issue with Gigabyte P67A-UD7 - there are 3 of us alone in that thread with exact same problem but with different motherboard. There is also another same thread in G.SKILL forum with that problem also, something is going on.
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Ran that ugly DOS memtest86+ and it did not report any problems at 2133mhz memory 1.66v from bios + 1T for CR. So this leaves the problem with the motherboard i guess since it keeps saying failed colocks upon cold boot only. In my opinion the power distribution of the motherboard is messed up. Asus P67 also had this problem and they have a fix for it. They recommended to enable in their Advanced Power Options boot from PCI-express or somethiong but my Gigabyte board doesnt have it.
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It wouldn't be possible to boot from PCIE unless you had a Revodrive or similar installed anyway.
It can possibly be fixed by a BIOS update.
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I am also aware that 4 sticks are not compatible.
What do you mean by this?
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I've also experienced the exact same error - my build:
i5-2500K
GA-P67A-UD5 running latest F6 BIOS
HD6970
Corsair 750AX
8GB Corsair Vengeance (2x4GB) CL8 rated @ 1600Mhz/8-8-8-24/1.5V - supposedly rated for P67
Crucial C300 128GB
2 x Samsung 1TB HD103SJ
Had only just finished getting everything stable after having the same Windows freeze problems (as many others have posted about both here and on A$U$ forums - resolved by disabling power savings options in BIOS and setting High Performance/no sleep in Win7, HPET to 64 and Suspend type to POS).
I have tried setting XMP in BIOS and also manually setting RAM timings and voltage etc - both result in the same failure - I'm only attempting 1600Mhz - nothing higher than what the memory/board is rated for - although I'm aware that strictly speaking this is an 'overclock'.
I power on from cold, don't even get to POST, board resets, then powers up with the error message "The system has experienced boot failures because of overclocking or changes in voltage. Latest settings in BIOS may not coincide with current H/W states"
However I can run at 1333Mhz and CL9 instead of CL8 with no dramas (so far) - although if I'd wanted that I would have just bought the CL9 kit ;-)
Memtest doesn't show any problems with the modules.
I can also run the XMP settings by updating the BIOS, resetting (i.e. not from cold boot) and powering up (like another user posted).
Likewise, I've also overclocked (hit 4.5Ghz with some very minor tweaks (RAM @ 1333MHz)) with absolutely no dramas.
It's only changing the RAM settings that puts a spanner in the works...
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Hi and welcome to the Gigabyte Forum.
I see that you have come across the Windows freeze problem that seems to be quite common on this chipset. As usual it can be cured by killing the power saving settings.
The memory issues are another thing. I know you say that you have run Memtest but have you run it properly as we advise ?
If not follow these instructions:
Memtest86+ http://www.memtest.org/
Insert one stick of memory in slot 1 and run Memtest on it for at least 10 loops and if there are no errors then swap it over with the next one and continue untill you have checked all modules.
If you have any errors the module is faulty.
If you have any faulty modules you will have to return the whole kit as they are matched.
Post back when you have done that with the results.
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Hi Dark Mantis,
Several other users in other forum(as I see in these few days that I'm roaming here, also people in this forum) and my self are experiencing the exact same error, my build:
i5-2500K
GA-P67A-UD5 (running F2 and afterwards F6 BIOS)
GA GTX 460 SO
RipjawsX 1600 8-8-8-24 (detected as 1333 9-9-9-24)
Crucial C300 128GB
HX 650
First of all, I'm gonna say that the very first time I turned it on after building, it turned on for a few seconds and then it turned off. So there is no excuse!.
Secondly, even if the CPU and RAM are running at stock frequency, the problem is still there. I ran Intel Burn Test (Standard and High), Prime 95(around 8 hours), Memtest86+(at least 5 passes) and they are all stable. CPU-Z and Core Temp are showing normal voltages and temperature.
But sometimes when I restart the PC it does that turning on for a few seconds and then it turning off. And sometimes when I turn on the PC from off state it does that turning on for a few seconds and then it turning off as well. Not always, but often..
And this "The system has experienced boot failures because of overclocking or changes in voltage. Latest settings in BIOS may not coincide with current H/W states" certain times it even canceled the saved profiles, and every single time I need to set them up again. Even if you reset CMOS and running everything at stock(like the first time I turned it on) it still have that problem!
Really, it is annoying. I am speaking not only for my self here. Gigabyte is awesome, your P67-UD5 as well, but for the money we have paid, at least you could fix this random cold booting annoying problem.
Thank you.
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I agree and it is something that quite often occurs on other boards as well. I am sure it is a BIOS issue but I would say that it is one they keep getting wrong. I do not pretend to be a BIOS writer but I think it is fairly obvious that something is set a bit to fine and causes the reboots. :-\
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@ Dark Mantis
Thanks for getting back to me:
Just as a follow up to my last post, I had anticipated this question re: memtest, so I had individually tested both sticks with a dozen loops - both rock solid.
Ultimately it's not critical right now - I can run base RAM settings for a few weeks as due to the Intel issue I'll be replacing this (I need at least two of my SATAII ports) when the time comes (April?), however it would be nice if a fix was released sometime prior to then so my RAM can run at full speed.
It appears that the same issue is across other manufacturers as well - a quick scan of the A$U$ forums show something the same/similar - so for those out there speculating - looks like some unanticipated behaviour from the new chipset, which should be resolved with a BIOS update once it is identified properly...
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Hopefully it will all be sorted out before too long as I expect there will be other issues that the BIOS updates will need to fix also.
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Thank you Dark Mantis. I assume you will report these issues to those who has authority on them(an persuade heavily :D ).
By the way, what's the character on your avatar?
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I will of course pass this on but I think there is really no need as they must be concentrating on these BIOSes anyway at the moment. It would be a good idea for anyone affected to contact GGTS themselves as the more complaints they get, the more they take notice.
Just enter your email address and click on the language of choice.
GGTS http://ggts.gigabyte.com/
My avatar comes from Metal Gear Solid I am informed.
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Hi I too have exactly the same problem!!!
My setup
Gigabyte P67 UD3P B3 rev 1.1 Bios F3
Memory Corsair XMS3 Vengeance 1600MHz CL9 (2x4Gb) 1.5v
Gainward Geforce GTX 480
Corsair HX1000 (PSU)
When I set the bios to use XMP Profile1, it runs the memory in 1600 9-9-9-24 as it should, but when I cold boot I get this message very often "The system has experienced boot failures because of overclocking.." and it drives me nuts!
When this happens I need to go into bios and select Save and Exit and it will boot fine into Windows with 1600MHz
My memory (Vengeance) is to be run with 1.5v and it still gives above error message upon cold boot so to say that this is only an issue for memory running in 1.65v is false!!! This is clearly a bios bug and should be fixed for us!
I have also been running Memtest+ to no avail. It always reporting no errors and I have testet my memory for upp to 14hours/modul! And Windows is running without any issues for days!!
We need a fix! Please!
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As you say it does sound like a BIOS issue. Have you notified GGTS of your problem ?
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As you say it does sound like a BIOS issue. Have you notified GGTS of your problem ?
Hi, yes I have but they had no answer to give me more than they thought my memory was not supported on this motherboard. This since it was not listed on the memory comp. list. I had to take this up with Corsair they told me! Well I did and they sent me back here asking for bios fix :)
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What Corsair memory was it that you have installed ? I have usually found Corsair sticks to be very compatible but obviously there are exceptions.
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Hi I too have exactly the same problem!!!
My setup
Gigabyte P67 UD3P B3 rev 1.1 Bios F3
Memory Corsair XMS3 Vengeance 1600MHz CL9 (2x4Gb) 1.5v
Gainward Geforce GTX 480
Corsair HX1000 (PSU)
I quote my self ;)
Vengeance (CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9)
Well to go a bit further on this I can inform that I also tested the Corsair XMS 3 1600Mhz CL9 1.65v 2x4Gb (CMX8GX3M2A1600C9) before the Vengeance kit!
They proved to have exactly the same issue as the Vengeance kit stopping at boot time with "The system has experienced boot failures..."
I have contacted Corsair about this and they say it is the motherboard that is failing or needs a bios update to adress this.
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Well I can categorically state that there is no issue with the Corsair Vengeance memory that you have as I have exactly the same and it runs without fault on my GA-P67A-UD5. So as long as the memory isn't faulty it is another problem. ;)
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I doubt that two kits of memory are failing me within one week when I never had any memory failing on me before. And memtest86+ has cleared them too.
You have the UD5 board. If you google on this issue you will see that it mostly appears to be an issue for UD3 and UD4 boards. Some ASUS boards with P67 also are reporting this issue.
But I agree that it may be another issue too. I have little suggestions to what :( I have tried everything I can think of in terms of settings, failafe and manually set parameters. Nothing works. And the computer is rock solid once it has booted! Very strange!
Are you suggesting to RMA the motherboard? I see no other option to do.
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It would seem to be to do with the initialisation sequence then which points towards a BIOS issue.
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i have the same problem too :'(
i7-2600k
16gb Patriot G2 1600mhz
Evga GTX 570 HD
Corsair AX 850 psu
Corsair H60
Vertex 2 120gb SSD
Western Digital Cavair Black 2tb
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Hi and welcome to the Gigabyte Forum.
You say you have the same problem but would you care to elaborate on that a bit please ? The symptoms may be the same but it could be a diiferent cause.
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Hi guys -- is anyone still having this problem?
My specs:
Mobo: GA-Z68X-UD4-B3
Proc: Core i5 2500K
RAM: CORSAIR 16GB -- 2x Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9
GFX: Radeon 6950
All my settings stock, but it appears that I get the same error after turning the Extreme Memory Profile (XMP) on to allow the 1600MHz to register in BIOS. Otherwise, the RAM runs at 1333mhz.
Thanks for any help!
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Hi
So you are saying that everything runs ok unless you use the XMP setting to overclock your memory ?
Have you made sure that you have the latest BIOS version installed ?
Have you tried inputting the settings manually instead ?
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Yep – that seems to be the case, when I set XMP to Profile1 is when it freezes. I get two black screens and have to hard restart
I haven’t tried manually adjusting the RAM up to 1600MHz, though. It seems the MFG page says that the “SPD Speed” is 1333mhz whereas the “tested speed” is 1600mhz. Does this shed any light on the situation?
http://www.corsair.com/vengeance-8gb-dual-channel-ddr3-memory-kit-cmz8gx3m2a1600c9.html
I'm on latest BIOS too -- F7
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Well you could try setting the timings and voltage manually for the 1600Mhz speed. However I suspect that there is a problem with one of your sticks as they are good modules and normally run very well with no problems. I have four of them myself in my review machine.
I think the next thing is to test the modules one at a time. It does take time but follow these instructions exactly please.
I would suggest that you download and run the latest version of Memtest86+ to check your RAM first.
Memtest86+ http://www.memtest.org/
Insert one stick of memory in slot 1 and run Memtest on it for at least 10 complete loops/cycles and if there are no errors then swap it over with the next one and continue untill you have checked all modules.
If you have any errors the module is faulty.
If you have any faulty modules you will have to return the whole kit as they are matched.
Post back when you have done that with the results.
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Hi guys -- is anyone still having this problem?
My specs:
Mobo: GA-Z68X-UD4-B3
Proc: Core i5 2500K
RAM: CORSAIR 16GB -- 2x Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9
GFX: Radeon 6950
All my settings stock, but it appears that I get the same error after turning the Extreme Memory Profile (XMP) on to allow the 1600MHz to register in BIOS. Otherwise, the RAM runs at 1333mhz.
Thanks for any help!
Same board, processor but 2x4GB of Kingston HyperX 8GB 1600Mhz cl9 KIT - 1.65V
System runs perfectly stable with BIOS on optimized default, as soon as I select XMP Profile 1 (1600mhz) pc reboots when gaming or running Prime95/Intelburn. Bios is F7, didn't try to enter BIOS values manually yet cause frankly I find navigating it a bit confusing (coming from a Asus P5K Deluxe board, DDR2 ram). Memtest running fine
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Just a quick superficial follow up to my previous superficial post:
Kingston HyperX 8GB 1600Mhz cl9 KIT - 1.65V (KHX1600C9D3K2/8GX) worked fine when using Optimized Defaults in BIOS but PC would restart under load (playing games or running IntelBurn) when setting XMP Profile. Did extensive memory testing (8hours) with Memtest86+ on default (1333mhz) and there were no errors, when running Memtest with XMP profile enabled the PC would reboot after less than a minute.
Swapped the RAM with
Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 8GB 1600Mhz cl9 KIT - 1.50V (CML8GX3M2A1600C9)
Runs perfectly both on Optimized Defaults and XMP Profile. All tests went well.
My suggestion: If you own a GA Z68X-UD4-B3 mobo chose the Corsair RAM over the Kingston.
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Agreed! I am always banging on about using quality memory and whilst there is nothing wrong with makes like Kingston they certainly seem more suseptable to problems.
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I have the same problem here! I think this is an issue with the Gigabyte motherboards. My system is:
i7 2600k
GA P67A-UD5
8GB Corsair Vengeance 8-8-8-24 (model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8)
And i get the same message:
"The system has experienced boot failures because of overclocking or changes of voltages. Last settings in this page may not coincide with current H/W states."
I dont have BSOD´s...dont have freezes...But the system always return to stock when i turn off the power of power supply. Can you guys please Help me???
PS1.: I try to use the new BIOS (F7) from the website but I get a lot of BSOD´s with it and i come back to the F6 BIOS.
Ps2.: I already put a new Lithium battery on the motherboard.(dont work)
Ps3.: I already make the BIOS SWAP...pressing CTRL + F12 to put the F6 BIOS instead F2. (dont work)
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Hi
From memory (no pun intended) the Corsair Vengeance 8-8-8-24 model kit isn't listed as compatible with this motherboard. If so then that could be your problem along with several other things.
You are overclocking your memory anyway. Anything above the JEDEC standard is overclocked. However I suspect the main issue is the BIOS code. I would suggest updating the BIOS (if not now when you have a chance) and also making sure that both BIOS chips are synchronised.
What is this BIOS swap you are on about ? I am sorry I just don't understand you.
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i've have the same error message when clocking my Corsair vengence RAM to 1600Mhz on a z68xp-ud4. How do I get round this issue is a major pain in the ass. Ram clocks down to 1333mhz. I have loaded the XMP and also tried manual setting the timings. Works fine until you power off the computer and then the settings default.
"The system has experienced boot failures because of overclocking or changes of voltages. Last settings in this page may not coincide with current H/W states."
Ive got bios version F6
CPU I5 2500K
Mobo Z68XP-UD4
8GB Corsair vengence 1600mhz ram
The memory works fine when I try it in a MSI board
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Hi
First make sure that you have the latest BIOS version loaded. Load Optimised Default settings and save. Next synchronise the two BIOSes, the Main and the Backup. Next load all the timings and voltage manually. You may even need to increase the voltage a touch if all slots are filled with RAM.
To synchronise the BIOSes.
From a cold start with the power to the machine switched off press the power button and then enter the BIOS by pressing Del. Then when you get to the main screen press F9. This will bring up an extra screen which will display more information about the two BIOS versions. Assuming they are different exit the BIOS and shutdown. Again press the power button and this time press Alt + F12 where you would normally use the Del key to enter the BIOS. You will find that then your monitor will turn black and you will see:
Press [Enter] to start copying main BIOS to backup BIOS...
When you press Enter more text will appear saying:
Writing BIOS image.... xxxKb OK
Once completed more text will show:
BIOS successfully recovered! Power off or reset system!
Do as it says. Both Main and Backup BIOS chips now store the same BIOS version. You can now reboot as normal.
When you copy the first BIOS image to the second BIOS it also copies the current configuration
so if you use RAID or something, set it before the copy. It also copies over any saved profiles too.
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Hi,
alt +f12 doesn't do any thing apart from bring up the boot menu.
Also did you mean set my RAM settings manually at 16.00 multiplier plus my timings and then save and copy the BIOS. Is there another way to copy the BIOS? Can the BIOS be copied in windows through one of the gigabyte utility tools.
I just don't understand why there are so many issues like this with Gigabyte boards straight out of the box. I had always considered Gigabyte as one of the best if not the best brand of motherboards. But this has really put me off.
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Hi,
alt +f12 doesn't do any thing apart from bring up the boot menu.
Also did you mean set my RAM settings manually at 16.00 multiplier plus my timings and then save and copy the BIOS. Is there another way to copy the BIOS? Can the BIOS be copied in windows through one of the gigabyte utility tools.
I just don't understand why there are so many issues like this with Gigabyte boards straight out of the box. I had always considered Gigabyte as one of the best if not the best brand of motherboards. But this has really put me off.
You might have to use a PS2 keyboard to enter bios backup.. I had to buy one for that purpose.
Sometimes the usb board will work. But not very often. Seems to power on and off while booting up.
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F12 is the boot menu for this board. pressing alt and f12 still enters the boot menu.
Can the bios be backed up using a utility tool in windows?
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Hi guys same problem with gigabyte P55A-ud3 "The system has experienced boot failures because of overclocking.."
I try with another cpu and gpu and same problem.
mi system: processor: I5 750 @2,66 Ghz
mobo : GIGABYTE P55A-UD3 REV. 2.O BIOS F11
memory 2x4 gb ddr3 kingston hyperx predator@1866 mhz KHX18C9T2K2/8X
gpu: radeon 5850 club3d
power supply chieftech 650W A80+
everything run in default mod no oc. i reset cmos but the same problem.Any questions or any sugestion???