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Questions about GIGABYTE products => Motherboards with Intel processors => Topic started by: helloworld on January 25, 2011, 01:03:57 am
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Just got a brand new computer, pre-build, with the new P67A-UD3 and intel i5 2500K, already clocked at 4.3GHz.
I installed windows 7 64 bit onto the hd and it seems to work fine, the only problem is that when i turn on or restart my computer, it hangs at the "Loading operating system..." screen for about 20-30 seconds. The boot priority was set to CD-ROM, HARD DRIVE, USB. I changed it to the first as HARD DRIVE, and when I turned my comptuer back on, it now says "Loading Operating System..." for like half a second and then goes back to the boot screen... stuck in a loop. If i set back to CD-ROM, it does the hanging for 20-30 seconds again, and then starts to load windows 7. I have reinstalled windows 7 twice, and i have settings such as:
"Delay for HDD - 0"
"Quick boot - Enabled"
I have installed all of the drivers and my bios version says: F6c
Has anyone got any suggestions to any settings which could be causing this, or is it a hardware problem and will I need to send it back to where ibought from to get fixed?
Thanks.
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It's not a HW problem at all. LOL don't worry there's nothing wrong with the board. I asked the same question in the other thread. Just disable your Boot from CD ROM and let the OS boot from the HDD you'll be fine. I too had the same annoying problem and it's not there anymore.
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But I have disabled the CD-ROM, i put the boot priority to HARD DRIVE, DISABLED, DISABLED.. then it says Loading Operating System... for about half a second and then goes back to the boot screen. It gets stuck in a loop.. Also if i go to boot menu and choose my hard drive, it does the same..
Also, may i have a link to your other thread please? thanks
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I apologize I didn't read the 2nd part of your post about the continuous loop. What Hard drive do you have? In the BIOS there's a selection in Integrated Peripherals section for PCH SATA Control Mode. I set mine to AHCI since I have a SSD drive booting. Change those around from IDE to others and see if that changes anything.
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http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,4128.30.html
(http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,4128.30.html)
This is the thread I was talking about.
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Its currently set to AHCI, i have just noticed that, (i have no clue what that means i'm not good with hardware) i foolishly changed to IDE, and got bluescreen during funky windows logo... although! the Loading Operating System... stayed on for about half a second and then started to load windows 7. its now back to AHCI.
My hard drive is a 1TB SAMSUNG HD103SJ, SATA II.
Do you think if i formated my hd, then switched to IDE and installed windows 7 again, would that solve it?
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I'm using AHCI on a SATA drive with no boot issues at all!
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Its currently set to AHCI, i have just noticed that, (i have no clue what that means i'm not good with hardware) i foolishly changed to IDE, and got bluescreen during funky windows logo... although! the Loading Operating System... stayed on for about half a second and then started to load windows 7. its now back to AHCI.
My hard drive is a 1TB SAMSUNG HD103SJ, SATA II.
Do you think if i formated my hd, then switched to IDE and installed windows 7 again, would that solve it?
Does keeping it to SATA change anything? I'm not sure what could be causing the reboot loop.
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I don't quite understand what you mean. but..
If i change from AHCI to IDE, the delay and contuious loop are fixed, but i get a blue screen while windows 7 is loading up.
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Don't you have the option of IDE, SATA & AHCI when selecting the peripheral mode? I have those 3 and was referring to that.
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Nope, my options are: IDE, RAID(XHD), AHCI
I wrote down the bios settings for that page:
eXharddrive - disabled
peripheral mode - AHCI
sata port native mode - enabled
usb controler - enabled
usb legacy function - enabled
usb storeage function - enabled
azalia codex - auto
onboard LAN - enabled
SMART LAN - press enter..
onboard LAN boot ROM - disabled
onboard usb 3.0 controller - enabled
usb turbo - enabled
onboard serial port 1 - 3F8/IRQ4
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Um, i'm just gonna try format my hard drive, change it to IDE and then install my windows 7. I'll reply on how that works out.. :D
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Nope, my options are: IDE, RAID(XHD), AHCI
Nevermind I should've checked. You're right those are the options. I'm of no help.
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Back! I set to IDE and then booted from my win7 disc, formated my drive and partitions.. then installed windows 7. Seems the delaying and contuous loop are gone now! Hopefully i havn't spoke too soon :O
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Unfortunately ACHI (Advanced Host Controller Interface) mode is really the mode you want the SATA controller to be operating in. IDE (Integrated Drive Electronics) mode is a legacy mode where the SATA controller mimics an old, simple IDE controller and this mode is there to enable older operating systems that do not support modern SATA controllers to function with your modern motherboard. Numerous advanced features are disabled when using IDE mode. System performance may be degraded and some of the more advanced interactive modern hard drive features will not function (potentially features such as support for external SATA drives (eSATA), hot swappability (being able to plug in and unplug SATA drives without powering off and/or rebooting the system), NCQ (native command queuing which allows the drive to optimize a queue of read/write operations by sequencing them in a different order to minimize head movement which can substantially improve performance in certain situations), TRIM (a feature that tells modern SSD hard drives to clean up after file deletion to ensure performance doesn't slow down over time), etc.).
The computer definitely should not be getting stuck in a loop when you have the Intel SATA controller set to ACHI mode. This is the correct and ideal mode for the Intel SATA controller (unless you want to use a RAID to allow multiple hard drives to work together for enhanced performance and then RAID should be selected instead).
This sounds like some sort of BIOS bug that is showing up due to the particular combination of hardware you have installed.
I would recommend opening a tech support ticket with Gigabyte. You can do that here: http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/technical-support.aspx (http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/technical-support.aspx).
More than likely the problem will be fixed either by slightly altering your hardware configuration (likely some, theoretically non-required, minor change such as switching the particular SATA port that the hard drive is connected to or some other equally bizarre unexpected change) or by Gigabyte figuring out the bug in the BIOS and releasing a new BIOS that fixes the issue.
One change I would actually try is to move the hard drive to a different SATA port. Since it is a SATA II drive, you can plug i into any of the 6 Intel SATA ports (0 and 1 support higher SATA III speeds (6 Gb/s), while ports 2 through 5 support SATA II (3 Gb/s) speeds; all SATA III ports also do support SATA II and SATA I)
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I thought I would mention that you can switch back and forth between IDE, ACHI, and RAID modes by first making a small registry change to allow Windows 7 to load the appropriate driver during the next boot. You need to make the registry change before making the BIOS change.
The easiest way to do this is to use Microsoft's "Fix it" utility that can be downloaded and/or installed from Microsoft's knowledge base article KB922976 here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922976 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922976)
Once you run Microsoft's IDE/ACHI/RAID fix it utility, the operating system will be configured to allow ALL three of these drivers to load. From now on you can just use the BIOS to switch between IDE, ACHI and RAID modes and when you boot the system it will automatically install the correct driver.
Once you have the system up and running in either ACHI or RAID mode you should then re-install the Intel "inf" update and if using RAID mode also install the Intel SATA Raid driver. These can be found either on your Gigabyte installation CD or for newer versions from the Gigabyte web site (or for the very latest versions from the Intel download pages, although the Intel ones won't likely have been specifically tested with your particular motherboard). Note you only need to install the drivers once. As long as you don't uninstall them you can just change the BIOS setting and the correct installed driver will load when the system is booted. If you do not install the appropriate Intel ACHI or RAID driver, Windows 7 will use a generic Microsoft ACHI (or IDE) driver that should work fine, but won't necessarily take advantage of all of the optimized hardware features.
One final note: The Intel inf update by default will only make available to the operating system the Intel chipset drivers. It does not actually tell the operating system to install them and Windows will only install the Intel drivers if it thinks the current driver is not ideal (often it updates the driver during the next boot, but just as often the generic Microsoft driver remains in use indefinitely). To tell the operating system to do an overall evaluation of all of the Intel chipset drivers and install the best one you need to run the Intel inf executable with the "-overall" command flag.
To do this you need to:
- Open an command prompt as Administrator (by pressing "Ctrl-Esc", typing "cmd" and then pressing Ctrl-Shift-Enter)
- Change directory to where the Intel inf file(s) are located (by typing "cd \<path where the inf file(s) are>"
- Run the inf updater with the "-overall" switch (by typing "setup -overall" or "infinst_autol -overall"
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I installed windows 7 64 bit onto the hd and it seems to work fine, the only problem is that when i turn on or restart my computer, it hangs at the "Loading operating system..." screen for about 20-30 seconds.
It sounds like the system is searching all your drives for your OS... I had it do the same thing when I first built the system... but it was because it wasn't finding the drive. Apparently my 1st SATA3 port is not working- so once I put it on the second SATA3 port it worked fine. You may want to make sure all your drives are being recognized at the ACHI bios load sequence where it briefly shows the attached drives, if some are not recognized, that could be your problem; the system may sense that something is plugged in, but not able to read from it. Just an idea.
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Have you actually disabled your floppy drive in the BIOS?
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Well my computer is prebuilt, it has 1 year warranty, so i havn't even opened the case yet. The company that i bought from test the computers for 24 hours before sending them out.. yeah right.. -.-
Its working perfectly with IDE, and i read that theres no performance differences between ide and ahci.
But i suppose next time i need a fresh install (i often do), i'll try switching the sata port and try AHCI mode again. thanks for your help.
and ya floppy disc is disabled
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You don't have to wait to change from IDE to AHCI mode, just edit the registry first.
1.Exit all Windows-based programs.
2.Click Start, type regedit in the Start Search box, and then press ENTER.
3.If you receive the User Account Control dialog box, click Continue.
4.Locate and then click the following registry subkey:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESystemCurrentControlSetServicesMsahci
5.In the right pane, right-click Start in the Name column, and then click Modify.
6.In the Value data box, type 0, and then click OK.
7.On the File menu, click Exit to close Registry Editor.
After this you’ll have to restart your computer, go to BIOS and enable AHCI. When you log in to Windows again, you’ll notice the installation of drivers for AHCI. Another restart will be required to finish the driver installation.
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Update: Woke up today and turned on the computer.. it comes on for around 5 seconds then turns itself off, turns itself back on.. wow this computer loves loops. Anyway i took it back to get repaired -.-
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Sounds to me like a CPU overheat safety shutdown.
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So the CPU is overheating? ASWELL as it won't boot properly with AHCI, am I that unlucky? you sure these problems aint caused by the same things?
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Well at the moment it is pure conjecture as you don't have the system to be able to check anything. Hopefully when you get it back it will be working alright but if not it is one thing to check. Often it is caused by the heatsink coming loose on one of the legs, and can be sorted out in a couple of minutes.
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I kinda doubt it's cpu overheating (at stock speeds even, despite that I get reasonable temps at ~4ghz) as I had that reboot loop as well... ironically enough it happened around the time when I tried switching between IDE/AHCI.
When AHCI is on, it does take a lot longer to boot.
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Yes AHCI is not the best solution for everyone. It may be slightly faster than IDE but it always seems less stable in some systems.
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When i phoned today they told me they still can't figure out whats wrong with it..
I'm sure the cpu is fine because the night before it stopped turning on all together, I was playing GTA IV on full graphics, while recording with fraps at around 720p, i played for atleast 2 hours.. with absolutely no problems, around 60FPS, and around 30-40 while recording.
Found the link to the computer i bought ;) http://www.aria.co.uk/Systems/Gaming+Range/Titan/Anarchy+GTX+P67+Gaming+PC+?productId=43228
Actually got for 649, its gone up :O
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I kinda doubt it's cpu overheating (at stock speeds even, despite that I get reasonable temps at ~4ghz) as I had that reboot loop as well... ironically enough it happened around the time when I tried switching between IDE/AHCI.
When AHCI is on, it does take a lot longer to boot.
Maybe it sounds obvious but are you aware that you can't just switch from IDE to AHCI without first making some changes in the registry ?
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I kinda doubt it's cpu overheating (at stock speeds even, despite that I get reasonable temps at ~4ghz) as I had that reboot loop as well... ironically enough it happened around the time when I tried switching between IDE/AHCI.
When AHCI is on, it does take a lot longer to boot.
Maybe it sounds obvious but are you aware that you can't just switch from IDE to AHCI without first making some changes in the registry ?
I enabled AHCI in the registry before doing it, didn't realize boards still defaulted to IDE when I installed Windows =/
But yeah, I have to wait 10 seconds longer to boot with AHCI on. Is it because of my SATA3 drive (1002FAEX), the bios, what? It certainly seems like one of the drives powers on later than the other with AHCI enabled.
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The only answer that springs to mind is that the BIOS has to load the AHCI drivers as well.
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I am having a similar problem. With CDROM boot enabled, but nothing in the drive, it sits at the loading operating system screen for 30+ seconds before the 'Starting Windows' logo appears. My boot time on this P67 board + 2500k is actually slower than my core 2 duo on a crap 650i nForce board.
Oh, and this is with my portable USB drive unplugged. If it's plugged in, the boot times are even worse. The initial post screen where it just reports the MB model sits for 20+ seconds before the memory count is reported.... Then the 30+ delay for 'loading operating system', then another 30+ delay when 'Starting Windows' appears, before it actually shows the animated graphic and starts to load the OS. If I unplug the drive for boot and plug it back in, I only have the first delay.
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Hi and welcome to the Gigabyte Forum.
I would suggest that you make the primary boot drive the HDD rather than the CDROM as it is no point waiting for that to check each time you want to boot. If you need to boot from the optical drive you can just press F12 on boot and you will get a one time boot menu.
Have you disablerd the floppy drive in the BIOS too?
Have you selected quick boot in the BIOS?
There are many things which can speed up the boot time.
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its a shame to hear your having the same problem too, clouser.
when i first saw the Loading Operating SYstem... for like 30 seconds, my first thought was to put hd to first priority.. but on mine it just went into that strange rebooting loop. When i changed to IDE my computer can get to the windows desktop in like 20-30 seconds.
My computer is still being repaired.. they are taking ages. When i get back i'll try AHCI mode again.. hopefully it won't take forever to boot.
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Dark Mantis:
With every boot option but HDD disabled, boot time is fast, it just seems odd that it would hang up on the CDROM in the boot order without a CDROM in the drive.
I am still running F3, do you see any reason to upgrade to F5 or F6a? I couldn't find any articles explaining improvements or current bugs in the new versions.
Helloworld:
I am using AHCI mode with an OCZ SSD drive. What kid of drive are you using, and have you checked to see if it is compatible with AHCI? What mode was the BIOS set to when you installed Windows?
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The thing is that the BIOS will try and access the optical drive to see if there is anything to boot from in it if it finds nothing it then decides to move on to the next device in the list.
Updating the BIOS might well cut down on the amount of time allocated for this check but that is anyones guess as they won't actually explain much in the details.
As for the OCZ SSD drive make sure that you have the latest firmware installed for it as there was a problem with these drives and Gigabyte motherboards.
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The thing is that the BIOS will try and access the optical drive to see if there is anything to boot from in it if it finds nothing it then decides to move on to the next device in the list.
Updating the BIOS might well cut down on the amount of time allocated for this check but that is anyones guess as they won't actually explain much in the details.
As for the OCZ SSD drive make sure that you have the latest firmware installed for it as there was a problem with these drives and Gigabyte motherboards.
Thanks for the heads up on the SSD, I'll see what I can find. any links that talk about it? (i.e. good vs bad firmware levels, things to look out for, etc)
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To be honest I can't remember now but it was a couple or so months ago and it was on OCZ forum and ours although most was on theirs.
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I bought the drive 2 weeks ago, so it's probably already patched then. I can't tell because OCZ doesn't list bck versions of their firmware updates, and they released a new one last week to add 25nm support.
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Something is seriously fubar'd with the UD3 BIOS.
I broke windows and went to reinstall, this time the boot doesn't hang... for the couple required reboots during installation.
After installation I installed SP1, rebooted... and then nothing. Stuck at that retarded loading operating system message.
Rebooted twice, still stuck at loading. Toggled it to IDE mode, then Windows crashes automatically since it was set for AHCI.
Toggled back to the original AHCI mode, and it mysteriously works again?
At least my system no longer delays at boot up, but something is seriously wrong here and it's not my drives. Using F6a. Does F5 not have this issue?
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Well I just got my computer back, asked them how they fixed it and they said they haven't changed anything, its working right now, and its still on IDE atm. Problem is they said they haven't changed anything, but i just checked the clock speed and its now 3.3GHz rather than 4.3GHz... um.. -.-
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Sounds like a stability problem to me and they are just hoping that you wouldn't notice that they had dropped the multiplier.
Did the seriel numbers tally with your old board?
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hi hello world,
what memory is installed? I am using Kingston kvr1333d3n9k2 memory and have had similar issues as you.
Had the reboot every three seconds issue but seemed to resolve once I set Sata back to ide mode.
Still seems to get stuck at the gigabyte screen at a cold reboot. a warren reboot seems to resolve.
Something is not right
davo
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I have noticed this seems to be coming up at regular intervals recently.I think it is probably a BIOS issue but would like to have the chance to test it myself. At the moment will just have to settle for keeping an eye on it.
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Today i have another problem.. its only at 3.3GHz now, yet this morning i turned it on, it worked fine, then i installed some software and needed to restart my comp. I restarted windows and my computer just turned off and then turned back on and said
"MAIN BIOS CHECKSUM ERROR" and then comthing like.. loading saved bios as default (didn't have time to write all down)
now my computer is making really funny noises, like whistling all the time constantly, sounds like its gonna blow up, though seems to be working fine.. can hardly hear my music over it. -.-
@davo22
my RAM is
Mushkin 4GB(2x2) 1333MHz Dual Channel DDR3
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I would make a note of all your BIOS settings at present (or take photos) and then clear your CMOS and load the Optimised BIOS Defaults plus any other changes that suit you and then see if it is any better. There is no point overclocking if it isn't running stably first.
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I have no clue how to overclock :P so its been at 3.3GHz all this time, and i would prefere it like that, though now it doesn't even seem to be working at that lower speed.
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Well overclocking or not the suggestion still stands to clear the CMOS etc. ;)
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there! i cleared it back to defaults, obviously this strange noise isn't going away, but i noticed that now the clock speed is around 1.5GHz and when you go in a game or something, it goes up to around 3.8GHz, power saving mode or something?
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Yes you are right it is a power saving scheme. The processor will vary it's speed dependant on what it needs are. Can you track down where this noise is coming from and describe it as best as possible please?
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the noise got worst, and started to scare me so i turned my comp off.. left it for about 15 minutes, did the power draining thing or whatever (where you turn off all power and hold the power button i nfor like 30 secs), then turned it on and the scary sound seems to have stopped now.
The noise sounded like it was coming from the back case fan above the psu
Can anyone tell me how i can check if my cpu's integrated graphics is enabled? i would prefere that off. I think that the defaeults may have enabled it again.
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You have to go into the BIOS and find the section Advanced BIOS Features and look for Init Display First and set it to whatever slot your GPU is using. I take it that it will be PCIEx16.
I don't think there is any way to manually disable it.
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Its still working :o amazing
It was set to PCI, now set to PCIEx16.
Do you recommend me keeping it in "power saving mode"? Will i loose performance or not?
I'm confused to what exactly my clock speed is now(or what it can go up to), windows system info says @ 3.6GHz, "Speccy" shows 3.3GHz, CPUZ just jumps around everything from 1.6GHz most of the time, to around 3.8GHz when gaming.
The temperatures are very good, i havn't even seen it hit 30C yet.
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Yes you can leave it as it is. It just really means that the CPU throttles back when it doesn't need the extra power to save energy.
Glad it's all working alright now. ;)
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F6 BIOS final seems to not fix the problem.
After messing around, it seems the slow startup is only present when CDROM is set to first priority. Never had slow startup on my old EP35 with the same drive when that same option was set.
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It is always best to make the HDD Primary Boot Device to save having to wait for the system to check the optical drive for any data.
Is your CDROM drive an IDE version ? If so that is another reason why.
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No, SATA. The UD3 doesn't even support IDE...
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Yes , my bad, I forgot. :-[
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I just heard that there was a new BIOS version out at stationdrivers.com. I haven't verfied this but it might be worth checking.