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Questions about GIGABYTE products => Motherboards with Intel processors => Topic started by: ov2rey on February 14, 2011, 01:34:16 pm
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hi i'm new to this forums
and i am a fan of Gigabyte brand have been using Gigabyte brand since 945P/P35/P45 and now latest P67
now i'm using the latest Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3R, i having alot of problem like Bluescreen/auto restart/Main bios error recover from back up bios
but sometimes it work fine!
i tested other Graphic card like HD 6870 still having the same problem
when i test on Kingston 2Gb DDR3 1333mhz, my system run very smooth for 1weeks without any problem.
as for ram i using G.Skill RIPJAWS-X CL7 DDR3-1600 16GB 1.6v, in bios i set XMP enable and i even try set the voltage to 1.6
i have run alot stress test like 3DMark Vantage/Heaven Benchmark v2.1/CINEBENCH without any error or restart
i have run hard disk check no error
but unable to run ram test, it's always stuck at 3-5% then hang
is it the board spoil? since sometimes auto restart it show me bios error and recover from backup bios
i have been DIY all my computer
this is the setup
Processor
Intel Core i7-2600K
Mainboard
GA-P67A-UD3R F7 Bios
Graphics Card
MSI Nvidia 580GTX Twin Frozr II OC
Memory
G.Skill RIPJAWS-X CL7 DDR3-1600 16GB [Dual Channel]
Display
Dell UltraSharp U2311H 23" IPS
Storage
WDC 6401AALS Black Edition SATA-II
Optical Storage
Samsung SH-S223F 22X SATA DVD Burner
Casing
Gigabyte GZ-XX1CA-SNS Triton "Scythe S-FLEX x2+air-filter"
PSU
Corsair HX520W modular 80+ efficiency
Audio
High Definition Realtek ALC892
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Build 7601 64bits SP1
Thanks for anyone who read or reply!
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Hi and welcome to the Gigabyte Forum.
I can see two items there that could be causing your problems.
Firstly your PSU is underpowered for the system as the motherboard is advised as needing a 550W power supply and that is without your 580 graphics card.
Secondly the motherboard should be using 1.5v memory not 1.6v. Why did you change the Kingston RAM for the G-Skills if they were running stably ?
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Q: Firstly your PSU is underpowered for the system as the motherboard is advised as needing a 550W power supply and that is without your 580 graphics card.
A: I got a watts meter to check my computer fully load not even hitting 300watts
Q: Secondly the motherboard should be using 1.5v memory not 1.6v. Why did you change the Kingston RAM for the G-Skills if they were running stably ?
A: As for kingston i took out from my another AMD setup to test.
for G-Skills official web site it show that Qualified Motherboards List: GA-P67A-UD3R
and i saw on the ram sticky it write 1.6v
and thanks for welcome me to forums! ^^
before i upgraded mainboard,cpu and ram, i was using a GA-EP45-UD3P with 8gb DDR2 kingston ram and 580/HD6870 without a problem
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First - RAM.
Have you checked that XMP is setting up the RAM right.
According to website - should be 7-8-7-24-2N
Maybe something getting set wrong.
However - I'd agree with DM - your PSU isn't the best
Wattage isn't always the best way to look at your Power supply - but gives an indicator..
Key here is what are the individual voltage rails capable of delivering.
Found it hard to track down your PSU rating specs - but eventually found this
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/corsair_hx520w/3.htm
First off it has 3 +12V Rails. You need +12V for your Grfx, fans, Harddisks, and optical drives. (memory and others via the ATX-12V connector)
Each of the 12V rails are for 18A. Your Grfx card takes 2 - so 36A from 2 of the ports.
However look at the manual for your Grfx card I see this "Minimum 600 Watt or greater system power supply (with a minimum 12V current rating of 42A) is recommended."
This suggests to me that your PSU is borderline as the GPU is going to steal that additional 6A from somewhere.
Would recommend looking for something with 22A per 12V Rail if you go looking.
(You wouldn't have seen this with an ATI 6870 or 5870 as they are ok with 18A)
My suspicion is your drawing too much to the GPU periodically which is pulling from the 12V rail to the 8pin ATX12V connector on the board and thus pulling power away from components like your memory.
In short - get a new PSU.
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Q: First - RAM.
Have you checked that XMP is setting up the RAM right.
According to website - should be 7-8-7-24-2N
Maybe something getting set wrong.
A: so in bios what should i set?
Dram v 1.6?
i very new to those setting timing for ram in bios.
can i just enable XMP, and other setting for the ram as default?
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/ov2rey/ramtiming.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/ov2rey/ramtiming2.jpg)
as for PUS i try it on HD 6870 single card i still getting same problem
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sorry just for an update
i tested place my ram on AMD set up
MSI 890GXM-G65/AMD Phenom II X4 550BE 3.6Ghz/WD250/HD4290/Win 7 64bits SP1
using on board graphic
i getting same problem as my intel setup, bluescreen and hang
i even try run memory test still hang at 3-5%
could it be ram problem?
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could very well be the RAM - does the other system support 1.6V RAM?
Have your tried memtest+ and just checking each DIMM?
The CPU-Z captures are strange.
The SPD settings are right, but the memory setting reported by BIOS is way off.
As for PSU - 6870 still ok on 2x 18A. You need to go to something like X2 cards, or 6970 before it would become an issue. NVidia typically draws down a lot more than ATI.
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The problem being that the memory might just be incompatible with the AMD board so in effect it doesn't prove anything. It would certainly want more looking at though.
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my Amd board is compatibility with the ram.
and i using Memtest86 3.5a to run test it hang at 3-5%
so is it the ram spoil or the timing problem that i need to set?
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Well I would doubt that the memory is compatible with both the P67 and the AMD boards.
The Memtest you are using is an old version and you need this one for the Sandy Bridge chip boards.
Memtest86+ V4.20 Beta 13
.Bin :http://www.memtest.org/download/beta/420b13/mt420b13.bin
.Iso :http://armstrongcomputer.ca/mt420b13-jasonacs.iso
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Well I would doubt that the memory is compatible with both the P67 and the AMD boards.
The Memtest you are using is an old version and you need this one for the Sandy Bridge chip boards.
Memtest86+ V4.20 Beta 13
.Bin :http://www.memtest.org/download/beta/420b13/mt420b13.bin
.Iso :http://armstrongcomputer.ca/mt420b13-jasonacs.iso
thanks alot!!!!
i now testing 1 single ram.. for 24hrs
if isn't my ram spoil how??
is it timing?? anyhow can teach me how to set the ram timing..
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After you have thoroughly tested the RAM we can look at the timings of the memory and see if they are set properly.
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Enable XMP mode 1600mhz
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/ov2rey/565657f0.jpg)
Disable XMP mode 1333mhz
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/ov2rey/f847e9e4.jpg)
all ram setting on AUTO
it's seem like the ram timing weird.. if i change ram timing will it fix?
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Give it a thorough test at default(auto) settings and see if you get any errors. Do a 10 loop test on each module.
Once you are 100% sure that the memory is ok we can look at getting the rated speed if possible.
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you mean 10 Pass?
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I mean 10 passes on each module individually. That is the recognised test of the memory.
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i have done 15 pass!
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/ov2rey/843254bc.jpg)
no error
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Well that module certainly seems ok. What about the other three ?
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Yes I test run other ram on and setup also show no error.
How come i enable xmp so many error
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Probably because you are running four sticks rather than two. If you want to test this out try removing DDR3_2 and DDR3_4 and see if you cna then enable XMP without problems.
Anyway back to the issue. As your memory has tested ok we can now move on and check the settings. Can you list the default settings/timings here please. They should be printed on the side of the modules and probably on the packaging.
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Probably because you are running four sticks rather than two. If you want to test this out try removing DDR3_2 and DDR3_4 and see if you cna then enable XMP without problems.
Anyway back to the issue. As your memory has testewd ok we can now move on and check the settings. Can you list the default settings/timings here please. They should be printed on the side of the modules and probably on the packaging.
i did try removing ddr3_2 and 4, i still getting same problem
there is my bios photo that enable XMP mode
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/ov2rey/317d686d.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/ov2rey/4915df68.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/ov2rey/6708f8b5.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/ov2rey/6749fec8.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/ov2rey/4dfecbe5.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/ov2rey/0c502c18.jpg)
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Just to check try the two modules in DDR3_2 and 4 instead.
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Just to check try the two modules in DDR3_2 and 4 instead.
it show me 2 channel
i try put 2 ram on DDR3_2 and 4 it show me same problem.
i read from G.Skill Forums that P55 board from Gigabyte has the problem with compatible untill Gigabyte release a new bios to fix the bug.
could it be the same problem?
Dual Channel Memory Configurations:
Channel 0: DDR3_1, DDR3_2
Channel 1: DDR3_3, DDR3_4
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/ov2rey/4a85d89b.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/ov2rey/524402e9.jpg)
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Right, make sure that you keep the sticks in their pairs as they are matched.
Fit all the modules.
Go into the BIOS and manually enter the timings into the memory settings 7-8-7-24.
Then make the voltage 1.66v
Make sure the QPI/Vtt is set to somewhere between 1.2 and 1.4v (you will have to play around with this setting for stability)
Make your Uncore twice the memory multiplier or twice plus 2. In other words if your memory multiplier is 10 set the uncore to 20-22
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Right, make sure that you keep the sticks in their pairs as they are matched.
Fit all the modules.
Go into the BIOS and manually enter the timings into the memory settings 7-8-7-24.
Then make the voltage 1.66v
Make sure the QPI/Vtt is set to somewhere between 1.2 and 1.4v (you will have to play around with this setting for stability)
Make your Uncore twice the memory multiplier or twice plus 2. In other words if your memory multiplier is 10 set the uncore to 20-22
sorry i not very good in bios setting
where can i find uncore setting?
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Forget the Uncore as it would not seem to be available from your manual. :-\
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Forget the Uncore as it would not seem to be available from your manual. :-\
T.T why is it so hard to get the ram work!
sorry im very noob.
is this setting correct?
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/ov2rey/b9de82fe.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/ov2rey/0c8c3853.jpg)
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Yes the settings are correct. If they don't work though pull the voltage back to 1.5v
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Yes the settings are correct. If they don't work though pull the voltage back to 1.5v
it doesn't work
i even try Dram @ 1.6v
if i set QPI/Vtt any higher then 1.2v the system cannot start
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I really don't know where to go next with this. Nothing we do seems to make any difference. It's possible the CPU is faulty although it doesn't happen often. :-\
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I really don't know where to go next with this. Nothing we do seems to make any difference. It's possible the CPU is faulty although it doesn't happen often. :-\
if cpu is faulty using kingston ram won't be able to run smooth.. maybe i go ask forums from G.skil
or is it the Intel P67 chipset bug??
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i found out alot people has same problem
http://www.gskill.us/forum/showthread.php?t=7536&highlight=gigabyte
http://www.gskill.us/forum/showthread.php?t=7499&highlight=gigabyte
i try this setting
In MIT
Advance memory settings:
system memory multiplier=16
dram timing selectable=quick
channel A timing settings:
CAS=7
trcd=8
trp=7
tras=24
Advance voltage settings:
qpi/vtt voltage=1.1v
dram voltage=1.5v
13.3 multiplier for 1333mhz
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at 1333mhz @ 1.5v i able to run smooth
but 1600mhz 1.5 or 1.6v unable to post