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Questions about GIGABYTE products => Motherboards with Intel processors => Topic started by: Per.C6 on February 25, 2011, 08:34:03 am
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I'm having some trouble with the start up of my PC.
The problem is that when I press my power button, the PC starts up, then powers down, and then fully starts up. That little powering down joke in between starting up sometimes happens 1x, sometimes 2-3x.
It really concerns me and I have no idea why it does this. I hope someone can help me out? Thanks in advance.
Specs: Intel i7 2600K, Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD4 (still running the F3 bios), Corsair 8Gb DDR3, Gigabyte 560 TI Nvidia, 128Gb SSD sata3 (OS drive), 2x 1TB WD Sata2 raid0stripe, 600Watt Cougar. (hope that is enough info).
Cheers
Per.C6
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Hi and welcome to the Gigabyte Forum.
I seem to remember you posting this same question a couple of days ago ?
Did you not get a reply then ?
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This is my first post ever, I did originally send this question just to you. And you advised me to post it so everyone could read and help.
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Oh that's right I thought I remembered it.
Are you still using the original BIOS version that was supplied with the motherboard ?
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Yes It still runs on F3, is that known to cause this trouble?
Also does it matter if I use a fancontroller (meaning the CPU fan is not directly linked to the Motherboard)?
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The use of the fancontroller shouldn't present a problem but you will need to turn off the CPU Fan Alarm in the BIOS so it doesn't just think it has failed. I guess that you haven't got a buzzer installed. If I am correct I would advise putting one in as they are very useful. I really don't know why manufacturers have stopped supplying them for the next to nothing cost involved.
The BIOS would be a good idea to update to the newest version. However it is a little more complicated the first time on this board as the BIOS and utility have a bug. What you must do is go to the download page for your motherboard and download the latest @BIOS program and use that to run the update. After the first time you can revert to the usual recommended way of using QFlash for updates.
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What do you mean by 'Buzzer'?
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Ow nevermind I guess this is what you mean, http://cgi.ebay.nl/Motherboard-Case-Speaker-Buzzer-BIOS-Beeps-UK-/220642698710
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Yes that is exactly what I meant. They are available from nearly any computer store as well as Ebay.
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Hey there, I did a bios update (after trying a million times, because of that startup problem is failed allot of gave errors and therefore resetting it with the backup bios) but the problem is not completely gone yet. When the computer is on and I restart it (due to updates or just to test) it works fine. It restarts in a single try. But when my computer was off overnight and I wanted to turn it on again in the morning it took 3 or 4 times to startup. Any other idea's?
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What BIOS version are you running now ?
Have you synchronised both BIOSes with the same version ?
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Bios version is now F7 (just F7 not the F7B beta ), I have not synced them, so the backup bios is still F3 then. Guess I will try that next then. Fingers crossed. Didn't think that would matter since it will only use the backup bios when there is trouble with the normal bios, or does it still have some influence also in normal situations?
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i'm having the very same issue with my Intel i7 2600K, Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD4, f7 bios,
it restarts about 5 times before it lets me get into win7, it was fine when i put this system together for a few days on the original bios,
i'm getting sick of it now i should of stuck with my old trusty asus board with a core2duo :(
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I think it would be worth trying to synchronise the two BIOSes as they can have a bearing on each other.
To do that, reboot and where you would normally press DEL to enter the BIOS, instead press Alt + F12, this will flash the Backup BIOS with the MAIN BIOS contents. Do not worry when you see a recovery comment, that is normal and means it is flashing the backup BIOS.
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That is weird, so you did not have any bootup trouble with the original F3 Bios?
I already had the bootup problem with the F3. with the F7 it got slightly better.
At first (with F3) I had this problem all the time: at first startup, when rebooting after updates, or just rebooting, turning it Off and then On again.
With the F7 so far the problem only occurs when the computer has been turned off for a longer time. Rebooting gives no issues anymore.
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Well I flashed my backup bios aswell (took me a while, apparently you need to have your keyboard ps/2 connected) . But the problem is still there :-[
Any other tips or am I just screwed?
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Can you just confirm that the BIOS synchronisation took by going into the BIOS homepage and press F9 for system info. It will tell you what versions both of your BIOSes are.
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Had similar problems...startup ones. :-[ Blame it on the overclocking first, but after read your post regarding the Bios syncronisation done it...now waitin`for the bastard to do it again 8). No need for PS/2 in ma case, just a basic corded USB keyboard fit the bill nicelly.
The overclocking was OK until 4.5. Using a H50 cooler, temps stayed well into the safe zone 40 degrees idle, 55 under full load. If i play with Intel Extreme Utility it reaches 70 degrees. Once that i`m rampin`up the speed goin`4.6 and above things have a tendency to get dicey... still lookin for the best solution, want to keep all the energy saving features activated ;D.
Any advice regarding unexplored paths (overclocking wise)? Thinking that maybe is worth a shot to upgrade the mobo when i`ll change it (B3 revision) to a different model. Any Gigabyte models P67 that have more than 4 DIMM slots, still have some extra DDR3 ram from previous rig.
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Glad the advice helped you anyway.
For more than four DDR3 slots you are going to have to go for the Z68 chipset. I am not sure how many memory slots it will come with yet but I am expecting more than four.
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@Mantis
When I press F9 in the BIOS it does show version F7, but this is just one line of text, it does not specify precisely which BIOS contains what version.
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My bad I forgot that there was a glitch in the BIOS of these boards that still needs fixing as far as the reporting of the system info goes.
It shouldn't stop you from synchronising the two BIOSes though.
To do that, reboot and where you would normally press DEL to enter the BIOS, instead press Alt + F12, this will flash the Backup BIOS with the MAIN BIOS contents. Do not worry when you see a recovery comment, that is normal and means it is flashing the backup BIOS.
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Thats ok, I did that and I got the message that it worked and I was asked to hit the reset button.
So both BIOS' are updated but the problem is still there.
Maybe it is good to explain that the startup problem is really in the very beginning of hitting the ON switch (so not when trying to start windows).
So it tries to give everything power and you hear all fans go, the lights turn on and then a soft 'click' and it dies. And then by its self tries again. As long as it takes to finally keep power and stays on.
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It certainly sounds like a power problem to me. Can you try a more powerful PSU ?
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600Watts not enough?? Then I would have trouble running windows aswell, wouldn't I
I ran 3DMark06 and 11 and the system worked fine.
I don't have another (stronger) PSU at hand to test. I guess I have to go to my supplier and ask them to test it.
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I understand you being dubious and quite rightly so but sometimes these things do work like that and it wouldn't be the first system that has worked fine once booted but has problems starting initially.
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You are right, It could of course be so that the system draws more power on startup than it will actually need to run after that.
I asked that store if it would be enough and the guy was quite confident. But I'll ask them to have a look at my system.
Thanks, I'll let you know how that turns out.
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I understand you being dubious and quite rightly so but sometimes these things do work like that and it wouldn't be the first system that has worked fine once booted but has problems starting initially.
Sorry to give you the bad news but i can confirm that i have the same flippin`problem with ma rig. Extremely pissed off now, but suppose that this is the price that you need to pay for goin after cutting edge technology. My PSU is 850W and a very decent one Silverstone Strider Plus. Worked mighty fine with a i7 920 D0 and a Gigabyte Ex58 UD4P.
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Sorry to hear that hiperboreus. As you say I wouldn't expect the same trouble in your system although anything is possible.
Have you tried firstly putting everything back to stock settings as that is just complicating the issue. Then synchronising the two BIOSes so they are both using the latest version ?
(sorry if you have already done this but some threads get a bit complicated)
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Sorry to hear that hiperboreus. As you say I wouldn't expect the same trouble in your system although anything is possible.
Have you tried firstly putting everything back to stock settings as that is just complicating the issue. Then synchronising the two BIOSes so they are both using the latest version ?
(sorry if you have already done this but some threads get a bit complicated)
Done already...
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Sorry to hear that hiperboreus. As you say I wouldn't expect the same trouble in your system although anything is possible.
Have you tried firstly putting everything back to stock settings as that is just complicating the issue. Then synchronising the two BIOSes so they are both using the latest version ?
(sorry if you have already done this but some threads get a bit complicated)
Done already...
I will wait for B3, is not worth it to take it out from the system and replace it with another one. For the moment i`m trying to disable all the bells and whistles in BIOS and put it on one by one. Because my RAM is certified 1.6 i`m putting the voltage manually on this one and let`s see what it has in store for me next. The thing is at some point it gives me all sort of funny messages (BSOD) that have one thing in common, storage. Error in storport.sys or ataport.sys or ntfs.sys. Changed the port on motherboard from the famous faulty ones (first two) on the third s-ata. BIOS has AHCI enabled. Kaspersky is reporting from time to time that its update database is corrupted. Scandisk it started last time to correct errors on harddrive... Never had this kind of problems on X58. Never seen scandisk running on X58 even that sometimes not everything was closed up properly. I have a little server in a cupboard with some Opterons humming along for backup and filesharing with a dedicated Raid controller. Maybe i`ll use that controller on the motherboard, disable the s-ata onboard, reinstall windows on that thingie and see if it gives me this kind of problems. If it`s stable with the dedicated controller then is the famous storage bug which it hits me earlier than Intel predicted... If it gives me the same problems oh well...back to square one i guess. ::)
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if it gives you the same problems as well....then duff disk!
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Well it's not the powersource my system has been tested on a different (and bigger) 750Watt PSU and the problem is still there.
My system is now undergoing a full checkup at the store, so we'll see what they find.
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Once they have determined the problem please let us know as it would be interesting to say the least. :-\
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Well the problem was in one of my four memory banks. I don't have my system back yet, but that is the story I got from the repair guy.
They put in different memory and it was all gone he said.
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That is entirely possible as I have just been back over the entire thread and I never got you to test the memory. My bad. Got sidetracked by other things. :-[
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Thats okay, I had also discussed that with a friend once but then we dismissed that idea, because we thought the problem started too early for it to be the memory. Apparently not.
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anyone found a fix for the startup problems yet? i've done the bios sync, everything is at stock settings, i've tried setting voltages, enabling/disabling options, latest bios but nothing works,
i've got a 850w bfg power supply that i know works well, ADATA ddr3 1600 ram,
i've heard that there is a problem with the sata ports for the harddrives failing on these boards, could the startup problem be something to do with that?
i'm thinking about contacting gigabyte to get a replacment as its getting beyond a joke now, i'd rather wait for a bios update to fix the issues but i'm not sure when that could be.
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Hi
Firstly I would advise you to register for a board update as they are starting already. The SATA2 ports are the ones that are affected so try and stay to the SATA3 ports for now.
How much memory are you using ?
Have you run Memtest86+ on it to make sure that it is 100% ?
Latest memtest86+ is here, that works with P67
Memtest86+ V4.20 Beta 13
.Bin :http://www.memtest.org/download/beta/420b13/mt420b13.bin
.Iso :http://armstrongcomputer.ca/mt420b13-jasonacs.iso
Insert one stick of memory in slot 1 and run Memtest on it for at least 10 loops and if there are no errors then swap it over with the next one and continue untill you have checked all modules.
If you have any errors the module is faulty.
If you have any faulty modules you will have to return the whole kit as they are matched.
Post back when you have done that with the results.
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hi dark mantis, i have 4gb of ram, i will test the ram and post results, what do you mean by a board update? thanks
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Well because of the Intel chip problem (Cougar Point) there is a swap of the old boards for an updated version defined as B3 stepping. Check out here for the form and info.
http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,4382.0.html
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cool thanks for the info, i just used the sata check uttility and its telling me to move one of my harddrives to a sata3 port, i already have my win7 harddrive on a sata3 port, i think i will just fill in the form and try and get a replacement to see if that fixes my problems.
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I had a similar issue with my new board. Power up,then shut off then power on again.
I fixed it by going into bios and changing the memory( EMP?) setting from default to profile. I cant remember the exact setting name.
My memory speed changed from 9-9-9-24 to 7-7-7- 21. No more problems. ;D
I hope this might help.
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Yes but I think you meant XMP though as EMPs are a bit disasterous around computers! The BIOS setting is Profile 1. Sometimes that won't work either though and you need to manually set the timings and voltage.
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Hi all, I have just built a system for a friend of mine with the GA-P67A-UD4-B3 and I can confirm that the cold boot problem still exist with this new version, the only way to get it to boot is to remove the power cable for a few minutes and if I am lucky it will boot, if not I have to remove the power cable and try again.
The bios version is F2 dated 2011/02/22 this is the initial release of this bios and the only one as yet on the site.
Regards, Welshman..
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Hi and welcome to the Gigabyte Forum.
Yes there is no option for updating the BIOS yet but doubt if it will be long before one is available.
Have you run Memtest86+ to make sure that your memory isn't at fault?
Memtest86+ V4.20 Beta 13
.Bin :http://www.memtest.org/download/beta/420b13/mt420b13.bin
.Iso :http://armstrongcomputer.ca/mt420b13-jasonacs.iso
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Hi thanks for the reply, I have run memtest and there are no faults, I used the following memory
CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 - 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 PC3-12800 (1600), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 9-9-9-24, XMP, 1.50V
as recommended by Scan.co.uk, I see loads of people all over the world reporting the same issue in other forums..
Regards..
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Yes it is good memory and a good price at the moment. I have just fitted the same in my Sandy Bridge build and am very impressed with it.
I know that it is an issue at the moment but bad RAM can cause the same symptoms.
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Hi
I have just heard from our Technical Advisor and he has suggested that you might want to try one or more of the following things:
Update your BIOS with F3b available from TweakTown: http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte/28441-gigabyte-latest-beta-bios.html
Try setting the XMP profile in the BIOS to Profile 1
Try changing some of the memory timings in the BIOS
or even maybe try some memory modules that are on the QVL : http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_ga-p67a-ud4-b3.pdf
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Instead of starting a new thread I'll ask this here.
On the Gigabyte site the bios listed for my board is F2 first release. Date-- 2011/02/22
My boards bios is F1 -- 02/14/2011
Im having issue with the shut downs at restart and cold boot.
Should I try and flash the bios to f2?
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Hi
I know there has been some confusion with this issue and I haven't heard any official explanation so far but I have discussed this BIOS compatibility with Lsdmeasap and they are going to be doing some cross board testing over at TweakTown to see if the versions from the older boards are compatible with the B3 versions. I think they will be as the board has no real changes that would affect BIOS settings.
I would say that your F1 should be upgradable to F2. If there is any problem the checksum should fail before installation.
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Hi
I have just heard from our Technical Advisor and he has suggested that yoiu might want to try one or more of the following things:
Update your BIOS with F3b available from TweakTown: http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte/28441-gigabyte-latest-beta-bios.html
Try setting the XMP profile in the BIOS to Profile 1
Try changing some of the memory timings in the BIOS
or even maybe try some memory modules that are on the QVL : http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_ga-p67a-ud4-b3.pdf
Hi thanks for all your info, my friend has taken the UD4-B3 back to Scan.co.uk and swapped it for a UD3-B3 board, all is working fine with this M/Board.
Regards, Welshman..
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Glad to hear that it is all sorted out now then. ;)