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Title: Weird GA-P67A-UD7-B3 USB problem
Post by: half1980 on May 09, 2011, 02:23:07 pm
Hello to all! I have encountered a weird problem with my computer today! Actually i never knew that there was this kind of error in windows! Windows keep notifying me that there is a power surge on hub port (the USB 3.0 one that is controlled from the Renesas chip) and at this very moment i am writing this post the balloon keeps popping up!

I have restarted the computer several times but the problem persists! The weirdest thing though is that i have no device connected to the USB 3.0 ports! The only thing that's connected on a usb port is the mouse and it is connected on the USB 2.0 ports at the back panel of the motherboard! Anyway i use the reset option on the window that pops up but after a while there's a new warning regarding the same problem!

I'm using F3 BIOS and everything is working at stock speeds, no overclock or other stuff! On the following picture you can see the power surge problem.


(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/652/unledfz.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/unledfz.jpg/)

My system's specifications are the following:

Motherboard: GA-P67A-UD7-B3 (F3 BIOS)
CPU: Intel i7 2600k
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 2x 4 gb @ 1600 MHz 8-8-8-24
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS 9900 MAX
GPU: Gainward GTX570 Golden Sample
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black 500 gb SATA 3 (WD5002AALX-00J37A0) for windows and programs
         Western Digital Caviar Green 1.5 Tb SATA 2 (WD15EADS-00P8B0) for storage
Optical Drives: NEC Optiarc DVD-RW AD-7261S

I hope this isn't a motherboard problem coz i'm gonna kill myself! :'(

Thank you for your help in advance!
Title: Re: Weird GA-P67A-UD7-B3 USB problem
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 09, 2011, 03:30:31 pm
Hi and welcome to the Gigabyte Forum.

I would suggest checking the USB3.0 connector blocks on the motherboard for any shorting pins etc. They will be at the bottom of the mobo. The same in the USB3.0 ports on the rear of the I/O plate. Make sure there is no foreign body in them whioch could cause a short.

Apart from that it would sound like a motherboard failure. You could of course just disable in the BIOS the USB3.0 ports if you don't intend to use them.
Title: Re: Weird GA-P67A-UD7-B3 USB problem
Post by: half1980 on May 09, 2011, 03:43:37 pm
Thank you for your reply Dark Mantis!

I've checked the backplate and it seems there's nothing wrong. I will check the pins on the motherboard later.

I don't plan to use the USB 3.0 ports but c'mon i bought this motherboard just a month ago (12/04) and it starts falling apart? I mean when you buy something new you want everything to work like charm otherwise why buying it in the first place?

Anyway do you think it might be a drivers problem? Because last night i've installed some audio/video codecs and i thought there was some kind of conflict.

Should i RMA the board?
Title: Re: Weird GA-P67A-UD7-B3 USB problem
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 09, 2011, 05:03:39 pm
I totally agree with you regarding the purchase. You expect to get a perfect item when you buy it new. It was just a suggestion.

Could well be a driver or BIOS issue. In fact I would think that is more likely than a faulty board. You could try going back to a restore point before the new codecs were installed and see if the problem is still there.
Title: Re: Weird GA-P67A-UD7-B3 USB problem
Post by: half1980 on May 09, 2011, 06:41:48 pm
I've checked the pins on the motherboard and i didn't find any issue!  I used a can of compressed air to clean the ports on the back panel and the pins on the motherboard! I've also uninstalled and reinstalled the Renesas drivers but the problem is still there! I will format and get a fresh Windows 7 installation as soon as my new HDD arrives.

I dropped by the reseller where i purchased the mobo and had a little chit chat about the problem. He told me that if the mobo is faulty we can RMA it but i must be sure that's faulty! I don't know if this is a Gigabyte policy here in Italy or the reseller is lousy but if there's a problem shouldn't Gigabyte replace the faulty hardware right away?
Title: Re: Weird GA-P67A-UD7-B3 USB problem
Post by: F5BJR on May 09, 2011, 06:55:49 pm
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You have Renesas last firmware & drivers to this link

http://www.station-drivers.com/page/nec.htm

Pierre
Title: Re: Weird GA-P67A-UD7-B3 USB problem
Post by: trinthakis on May 10, 2011, 11:52:11 am
I'm having the same problem except mine only started once I installed the Renesas drivers. For the month or so that I was using the generic win7 drivers I didn't have the problem.

It's also strange that if I disable then re-enable the hub the error message doesn't reappear.

Motherboard: GA-P67A-UD7-B3 (F3 BIOS)
CPU: Intel i7 2600k
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws-X 2x 4 gb @ 1600 MHz 9-9-9-24
CPU Cooler: Nocuta NH-D14
GPU: Gigabyte GV-N460OC-1GI
HDD: OCZ 120G Vertex II SSD 3.5 for windows
         Western Digital 2TB Green 64MB SATAII WD20EARS for storage
Optical Drives: Pioneer SATA DVR219L 24X DVD
Title: Re: Weird GA-P67A-UD7-B3 USB problem
Post by: half1980 on May 10, 2011, 09:22:09 pm
I just had a fresh Windows 7 Ultimate 64 installation installed the newest Renesas USB drivers and everything until now is ok! No power surge errors, no usb3 problems everything works like a charm! I hope it lasts! Thank you all for your replies and your help!
Title: Re: Weird GA-P67A-UD7-B3 USB problem
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 10, 2011, 09:42:34 pm
You are welcome and we will keep our fingers crossed that everything stays that way. ;)
Title: Re: Weird GA-P67A-UD7-B3 USB problem
Post by: Oubadah on June 19, 2011, 02:43:40 am
Just built a new machine, and had this issue after just 2 days. Balloon kept popping up over and over again with that stupid power surge message, and 'Unknown USD Device' even when I unplugged my only USB device (mouse).

Motherboard: GA-P67A-UD7-B3 (F4 BIOS)
CPU: Intel i7 2600k
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws-X 2x 4 gb @ 1600 MHz 8-8-8-24
CPU Cooler: Nocuta NH-D14
GPU: EVGA GTX 580
HDD: Intel SSD 320 80GB for windows
         Intel SSD 320 120GB for programs

I updated to the latest Renesas controller firmware and drivers, but that didn't help. Finally I did a CMOS reset, and that fixed the issue for now.

I'm going to disable the renasas controllers in the BIOS. I don't want to have to do CMOS resets regularly. Great problem to be having with the flagship board...

Title: Re: Weird GA-P67A-UD7-B3 USB problem
Post by: Dark Mantis on June 19, 2011, 10:04:57 am
Hi

When updating the Renesas drivers make sure that you uninstal the original ones first. This will help stop problems associated with this.

Keep an eye open for a new BIOS as that will probably address this issue.

Don't forget that although you haven't got any USB devices apart from your mouse attached you probably still have hubs built into other components.
Title: Re: Weird GA-P67A-UD7-B3 USB problem
Post by: Oubadah on June 19, 2011, 11:29:20 am
Don't forget that although you haven't got any USB devices apart from your mouse attached you probably still have hubs built into other components.

I don't think there are any more hubs in my system. The only components are GTX 580, Titanium HD, RAM and Intel 320 SSDs... The only hubs are the two VLI VL810 on the damned UD7. I hope they release the BIOS fix sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Weird GA-P67A-UD7-B3 USB problem
Post by: Dark Mantis on June 19, 2011, 12:43:01 pm
You can of course try asking GGTS for help directly.

Just enter your email address and click on the language of choice.
GGTS   http://ggts.gigabyte.com/

Please expect several days for a reply.
Title: Re: Weird GA-P67A-UD7-B3 USB problem
Post by: F5BJR on June 19, 2011, 02:33:17 pm
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--> last firmware for Renesas

firmware Version 3.0.2.8.0.8

http://www.station-drivers.com/page/nec.htm

Pierre

Title: Re: Weird GA-P67A-UD7-B3 USB problem
Post by: Oubadah on June 20, 2011, 11:58:06 am
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--> last firmware for Renesas

firmware Version 3.0.2.8.0.8

http://www.station-drivers.com/page/nec.htm

Pierre



Yeah, that's the one I installed.

Note that the UD7 has two Renesas D720200 controllers and the updater will give an error about plural devices. You have do disable controller one in the BIOS to flash the other (do them one at a time).
Title: Re: Weird GA-P67A-UD7-B3 USB problem
Post by: Dark Mantis on June 20, 2011, 01:07:20 pm
Yes that's correct about having to disable one at a time to do the flash and then swap them over.
Title: Re: Weird GA-P67A-UD7-B3 USB problem
Post by: Dolphin_X on July 09, 2011, 06:31:17 pm
I'm having this very same problem on a Z68X-UD7-B3 build that I put together just three days ago. The only USB devices I have connected to the computer are a USB mouse (Logitech G9) and a "das keyboard" USB keyboard. The error message pops up seemingly randomly.

The system is non-overclocked and running Windows 7. I updated the board's BIOS to the latest revision, but the error persists. This is the first time I've ever seen the "power surge on USB root hub" warning/error message.

I hope the problem isn't with the motherboard, but currently my suspicion is leaning toward a hardware fault...
Title: Re: Weird GA-P67A-UD7-B3 USB problem
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 09, 2011, 08:51:34 pm
Hi

Try installing a PS2 keyboard and see if the problem still occurs. Another thing to try is disabling the USB3 controller.
Title: Re: Weird GA-P67A-UD7-B3 USB problem
Post by: ex58 on July 10, 2011, 04:38:26 am
Install Intel INF Driver 9.2.3.1016 (http://www.station-drivers.com/telechargement/intel/chipset/intel_inf_9.2.3.1016_whql(www.station-drivers.com).exe) and Intel Management Engine Interface(MEI) Driver 7.1.13.1088 (http://downloadmirror.intel.com/20078/eng/MEI_allOS_7.1.13.1088.exe).
Title: Re: Weird GA-P67A-UD7-B3 USB problem
Post by: Dolphin_X on July 10, 2011, 04:07:02 pm
Thanks for the suggestions. Soon after posting my original reply, I discovered that the Renesas USB 3.0 driver I had installed was slightly out of date.  I uninstalled the older driver and updated to the newest Renesas USB 3.0 driver (2.1.19.0) ; perhaps this will stop the error message.

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Install Intel INF Driver 9.2.3.1016 and Intel Management Engine Interface(MEI) Driver 7.1.13.1088.

I installed INF and MEI drivers that I downloaded directly from the Gigabyte website when I set up my Windows 7 install four days ago. I'm pretty sure they're the most current drivers, but I'll need to verify that. I'm currently out of the house and won't be back until the 14th. I will resume troubleshooting this problem as soon as I return and will keep everyone posted as to my findings, in case anyone else is suffering from this same annoyance. 

I'll just keep my fingers crossed and hope that this is something which can be remedied by installing the right drivers and that I don't have to do a complete system tear-down and RMA the board.
Title: Re: Weird GA-P67A-UD7-B3 USB problem
Post by: Dolphin_X on July 17, 2011, 06:17:23 pm
It turns out my INF and MEI drivers were out of date as well. After updating everything (Renesas USB 3.0 drivers, INF, MEI) mentioned in this thread, the "Power Surge on USB Hub Port" warning message hasn't reappeared. Hopefully the problem has been resolved.
Title: Re: Weird GA-P67A-UD7-B3 USB problem
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 17, 2011, 06:20:30 pm
At least that sounds hopeful now and there was a good reason for it even though it took a while to find it. ;)
Title: Re: Weird GA-P67A-UD7-B3 USB problem
Post by: Oubadah on July 24, 2011, 02:29:08 am
Install Intel INF Driver 9.2.3.1016 (http://www.station-drivers.com/telechargement/intel/chipset/intel_inf_9.2.3.1016_whql(www.station-drivers.com).exe) and Intel Management Engine Interface(MEI) Driver 7.1.13.1088 (http://downloadmirror.intel.com/20078/eng/MEI_allOS_7.1.13.1088.exe).

What exactly is the MEI driver? I've never installed it before, but I always install INF...
Title: Re: Weird GA-P67A-UD7-B3 USB problem
Post by: ex58 on July 24, 2011, 06:31:55 am
Install Intel INF Driver 9.2.3.1016 (http://www.station-drivers.com/telechargement/intel/chipset/intel_inf_9.2.3.1016_whql(www.station-drivers.com).exe) and Intel Management Engine Interface(MEI) Driver 7.1.13.1088 (http://downloadmirror.intel.com/20078/eng/MEI_allOS_7.1.13.1088.exe).

What exactly is the MEI driver? I've never installed it before, but I always install INF...
The IntelĀ® ME software components that need to be installed depend on the system's specific hardware and firmware features. The installer detects the system's capabilities and installs the relevant drivers and applications.
For exsample, in ET6 without MEI you cann't change BLCK.
Title: Re: Weird GA-P67A-UD7-B3 USB problem
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 24, 2011, 11:24:53 am
ex58  +1
Title: Re: Weird GA-P67A-UD7-B3 USB problem
Post by: Oubadah on August 09, 2011, 01:32:03 pm
I think the USB power surge/malfunction issue might have been cleared up with the latest drivers and controller firmware. I've been running it for a while now and no messages. Can anyone confirm?