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Title: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: matteo on May 25, 2011, 12:25:23 am
Hello I am new to the forum, I want to talk about what has happened to me.
I bought the motherboard shown up and wanted to put on 16/24gb of ram, then I bought the ocz written in the title but I just can not make them permanent ...
My problem is that despite having 16 gb installed during the post bios tells me 12GB ..
Believing that it did not do I removed two sticks of ram for a total of 8 gb but it indicates that there are only four entered.
There are weeks that I work and I can not find the solution ...
Moved by the desperation and not waste any more time then I would know qualified people like you advice on what I buy ram (OCZ sell them) or better, what brand of memory do you recommend to work at least 16 gb stable


I forgot some info on my system

gigabyte X58A UD5
i7 980X
ocz

Thanks
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 25, 2011, 11:17:19 am
Hi and welcome to the Gigabyte Forum.

Well personally I wouldn't have bought the OCZ memory but as you have (as long as they are compatible) we will try and get them to work.

There can be several reasons for your problem. The CPU socket could have bent pins, the settings could be wrong or the Maxmem setting could be wrongly set.

Hopefully it will be one of the last two.

Firstly check the Maxmem setting in Configsys. If in the MSConfig maximum memory setting it says something other than 24GB change the setting and exit.

Post back if that doesn't fix it.
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: matteo on May 25, 2011, 12:36:02 pm
The CPU socket could have bent pins... :o
However I do not think there are any bent pins, because two months ago, the pc works fine.
Anyway I will verify what you suggested and will post all the BIOS settings to see if there is something wrong in the bios.
Thanks in advance
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 25, 2011, 10:33:03 pm
No problem. If you let us see what your settings are maybe we can help put them right.

You say that everything was working a month or so ago well something has gone wrong now so it could be anything.
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: matteo on May 25, 2011, 11:40:07 pm
Then...there's good news, I remove 8 gigs of ram and now the PC has no problem actually tells me eight gigabytes :)
I did some tests with "prime 95" and everything is ok no errors, no reboots etc ...
The problem comes out  when I'll try to install the rest of the ram that will begin to be errors
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: matteo on May 26, 2011, 09:50:11 am
(http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/9742/img0459zk.jpg)

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(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/5537/img0458m.jpg)

I hope that images are clear for you...anyway i think that with 8 gigabyte its all ok as settings
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 26, 2011, 02:02:40 pm
Yes I would expect 8GB to work fine wioth the Auto settings but if you want to fil the slots then you will need to tweak them a bit.

If you want to fil the banks try manually inserting these settings.

9-9-9-24

Dram voltage 1.68v

QPI/Vtt 1.25v - 1.4v (you will have to see what works best)

Memory multiplier 10x

Uncore multiplier 20x to 22x again play around to find stability.
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: matteo on May 29, 2011, 02:20:37 pm
Hello I'm testing the modules with memtest from bios and now everything is ok ..
Thanks for your settings and try later, but not too high and out of specification? Can I damage anything?
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 29, 2011, 02:27:21 pm
No as long as you stick to my recommendations you will be safe enough.
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: F5BJR on May 29, 2011, 03:02:20 pm
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If you have good memories and should work without problems
 
Here I have 6 sticks with 6 * 2 G in my machine with the same motherboard ( GA-X58A-UD5 ) , in default mode everything works fine

And yet these are not the same manufacturer ( mixed Nanya Technologies 685 Mhz capable and KingSton 800 Mhz  )

I have problems before finalement i had a  bad stick in a lot 

Pierre





Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: matteo on May 29, 2011, 03:25:40 pm
I have good ram maybe and some people  suggested me this configuration to be quiet

6 GB RAM (3x2GB)
12GB RAM (6x2GB)
18 GB RAM (3x2GB + 3x4GB)
24 GB RAM (6x4GB)
Howeve few days ago I bought  6x2gb  kingston ram certified from gigabyte manual  .. let's see if the problem is really that someone suggest me.
A strange thing I noticed, however, I do not know if this is really the problem ... memtest from bios with 2moduls of ram in slot 3 is not started ... damaged the connectors on the motherboard?
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 29, 2011, 03:37:13 pm
I would say that you should be running Memetest86+ with the memory in  the first slot  and test as so:

Please follow these instructions exactly.

I would suggest that you download and run the latest version of  Memtest86+ to check your RAM first.

Memtest86+        http://www.memtest.org/

Insert one stick of memory in slot 1 and run Memtest on it for at least 10 complete loops/cycles and if there are no errors then swap it over with the next one and continue untill you have checked all  modules.
 
If you have any errors the module is faulty.

If you have any faulty modules you will have to return the whole kit as they are matched.

Post back when you have done that with the results.
 
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: matteo on May 29, 2011, 03:54:42 pm
Ye ye memtest is the ultimate one...
1 and 2 but for you ... just what you mean physically then I see on the MB so the first slot and so on or following the pattern of the manual 21 43 65
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: F5BJR on May 29, 2011, 04:01:35 pm
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Insert one stick of memory in slot 1 and run Memtest on it for at least 10 complete loops/cycles and if there are no errors

Test another stick in slot 1 .. and continue with  all the sticks one at a time always in the slot 1

Pierre

*

For me the problem was easy to find because with 1 stick ( bad  ) the computer not even boot when he was alone in the slot 1 !!


Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 29, 2011, 04:03:14 pm
Thanks Pierre, you just beat me to it. ;)
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: matteo on May 29, 2011, 04:19:17 pm
please do not kill me and thank you for your patience :D
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 29, 2011, 04:30:17 pm
No proble. We don't kill people on Sundays! 8)
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: matteo on May 29, 2011, 04:47:34 pm
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1323/img0471fc.jpg
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/2615/img0468v.jpg

its correct?
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 29, 2011, 04:52:05 pm
Yes looks fine to me matteo
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: matteo on May 29, 2011, 09:41:52 pm
hi guys..its normal that  one pass is finished in 40 minutes?
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 29, 2011, 11:02:57 pm
It does sound fast but as long as the screen reports no errors then just let it continue.
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: matteo on May 30, 2011, 06:57:30 pm
Hi guys. I miss the last bench of ram that will test this evening or this night:) no errors until now.
One question ... but if everything should be ok?
What should I do?
1) Let me know if there is a way to check if the slot on the motherboard is damaged
2) Another possibility is to update the memory controller? is it possible?
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 30, 2011, 08:10:05 pm
If the memory checks out ok then that is fine. At least we can count on that. The next thing would be to check for bent pins in the CPU socket.  Just all good boring faultfinding. ;)
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: matteo on May 31, 2011, 10:37:01 am
I am very disappointed, however, check if any pins are bent makes me a bit of excitement ... before this I would like to mount following the manual ram memory support. Could be a solution before proceeding to remove the processor from the motherboard?
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 31, 2011, 12:34:24 pm
Please list you memory characteristics ...timings and voltages etc.

Also the make and model of the RAM.

How many sticks you have inserted.
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: matteo on May 31, 2011, 01:01:35 pm
Now i have OCZ Gold 8GB PC10666 DDR3 Dual Channel RAM  4x4gb 9-9-9-20 v1.65

 Memory Category:    Desktop
 Memory Type:    DDR3
 Memory Speed:    PC10666
 Memory Speed MHz:    1333MHz
 Memory Size:    4096MB
 Memory Modules:    2
 Memory Channels:    Dual
 Memory Socket:    DIMM
 Memory CAS Latency:    9
 Memory Timing:    9-9-9-20
 Pins:    240
 Voltage:    1.65V
 ECC:    No
 Memory Buffer:    Unbuffered

I bought for test KHX1600C9D3K3/6GX
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 31, 2011, 01:40:42 pm
OK then. What I don't understand is why you are using kits for a different chipset rather than the X58.

 I take it that they are a matching kit ?

 Do you know if they are compatible with the X58 motherboard ?

What slots have you got them inserted in ?

Go into MIT in the BIOS and instead of leaving the memory on "Auto" settings enter all the timings although I would suggest trying slightly looser timings of 9-9-9-27. You can try tightening them if it all works well.  The DRAM voltage should be set to 1.65v.
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: matteo on May 31, 2011, 07:17:29 pm
The PC was not assembled by me in order not to be in these conditions but it was better that I was building this damn pc.
Yes, they are matching kit but I repeat for a few months the pc worked fine no problem of instability etc ...
Unfortunately I do not know if they are compatible with x58 also because the OCZ does not deign to answer your difference that you are still close to the problems of buyers ..
I mounted the kit according to the manual so I tried 2-1-4-3 and then 1-3-6-5 ...

However this evening I will try your advice but let's see how it ends
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: Dark Mantis on May 31, 2011, 07:55:56 pm
Right I have just noticed that you do not hjave the motherboard in the thread's title. This is often the trouble with hyjacking somebody else's thread. I would suggest starting your own thread  with the correct details in the first post. This is what led to the confusion over using the "wrong" memory. Don't forget that we only have the details that you post. ;)
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: matteo on June 01, 2011, 09:12:22 am
Hi guys, then I put in my signature so everyone can see what I'm talking about and forgive me if I have not specified at the beginning of the post ...
So what do you advise me to do at this point to wait for the new Ram I was telling you this time tested and certified by gigabyte? and after if it does not work with the new ram to remove the cpu to see if there are any pins bent
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: matteo on June 01, 2011, 07:51:53 pm
Hello guys, I just received new two kit of ram KHX1600C9D3K3/6GX so 12 gb and is fully recognized.
Now it has a frequency of 1600 so I must have twice uncore frequency right? So if the ram is 1600 mhz uncore must be 3200 mhz? I have to fix some other parameter in addition to the ram and uncore?
Thanks again guys support
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: Dark Mantis on June 01, 2011, 07:57:53 pm
If the memory is running alright then I wouldn't mess with it. Just give it a good tesyt and see how stable it is. If it runs ok just leave it .
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: matteo on June 01, 2011, 08:06:45 pm
ok thx a lot
Title: Re: 24 gb on x58a-ud5
Post by: Dark Mantis on June 02, 2011, 06:18:30 pm
You're welcome but come back if you have any further problems with it.