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Title: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: alpha1 on July 01, 2011, 12:38:23 pm
I have Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 and I have connected to the motherboard ocz vertex 3 120gb max iops and connected the ssd in sata 3 port. The problem is that speed is only 280 MB/s. Speed ​​should be 550 MB /s. It is possible that the defect in sata 3 port?
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: Aussie Allan on July 01, 2011, 12:49:38 pm


  I hope not!......this issue was supposedly fixed in Z68 platform........I take it your using the Marvell port?.......can you post exactly the printed code on the Marvell chip please?

 Now back to your problem

 1) did you load OS under ACHI and running ACHI on this SSD to get those Benches

 2) How exactly did you load the Marvell Drivers?........during the OS install or under windows environment

 3) Are you using ATTO to get those figures?......If not could you download and run ATTO to see what comparison we can get.....Post both figures and what you used in the first place

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: alpha1 on July 01, 2011, 01:25:33 pm
I have connected the SSD in the Intel controller. In bios I set AHCI mode.I have no driver for Marvell.

Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: Aussie Allan on July 01, 2011, 04:07:51 pm


 OK but did you load windows while in ACHI ?

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 01, 2011, 04:18:15 pm
Hi

Firstly what reported the figures you are quoting was it ATTO ?

As Allan has already asked you did you run Windows setup in AHCI mode or IDE ?
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: alpha1 on July 01, 2011, 04:30:55 pm
Previously when I installed windows I put the AHCI in bios.
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 01, 2011, 04:32:28 pm
What about the other question...what reporting program did you use ?
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: alpha1 on July 01, 2011, 04:43:04 pm
For testing I used ATTO, Crystaldiskmark, HD tune pro
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 01, 2011, 04:59:32 pm
Which one gave the figures you are quoting though ?
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: alpha1 on July 01, 2011, 05:53:50 pm
results are not normal

(http://www.shrani.si/t/2q/Bm/3NWN1e5X/1/slika-2.jpg) (http://www.shrani.si/?2q/Bm/3NWN1e5X/1/slika-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 01, 2011, 06:38:35 pm
Well all the programs seem to concur within a broad spectrum then by the looks of it. The figures do seem to be low especially the read ones.

What port have you got it connected to ?

Have you got Native IDE enabled ?

Is the firmware the latest one for the drive ?
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: Aussie Allan on July 01, 2011, 07:23:02 pm

 Sorry to hop in here DM.....

       alpha1 .........The Intel port you are using is the ICH10R.....Sadly it's only SATAII.....not SATAIII.......

  With the speeds you quoted, it seems you have an underlying problem as you should be getting better speeds even off the Intel port, ....your writes seem OK-ish but your read speeds are rather low..........which will probably follow you through when you connect it up to the correct port for this SSD.

 The Marvell port is SATAIII and is the better port for the SSD you have, as the Marvell problems of past have apparently been rectified on the Z68 platform if configured correctly with the right drivers.......pick a benchmark you like and stick with it, different software will always give different results.......it's confusing enough without trying to figure out why there so far apart

 I use ATTO as it's robust, consistent and used widely by OCZ users and staff.......it's apparently a little kinder to SSDs then some but still should be used sparingly.........SSD efficiency goes south with constant benching no matter which one you use..........hope this helps!

 Aussie Allan

Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: alpha1 on July 01, 2011, 07:31:54 pm
 I have enable AHCI in bios and I have ssd conected in white port sata 3. This is intel controller.
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 01, 2011, 08:08:36 pm
Yes I am afraid that Allan is a bit off track here. These boards have SATA3 6GBs from both the Marvell and Intel chips. As long as the OP has it connnected to the correct Intel controlled port it should be SATA3 performance.

SATA3_0 is the right port and should be giving SATA3  support. See page 7

http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_ga-z68x-ud7-b3_e.pdf
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: Aussie Allan on July 01, 2011, 08:15:41 pm
Yes I am afraid that Allan is a bit off track here. These boards have SATA3 6GBs from both the Marvell and Intel chips. As long as the OP has it connnected to the correct Intel controlled port it should be SATA3 performance.

SATA3_0 is the right port and should be giving SATA3  support.

  Yup! just finished reading the manual......Intel with 6Gb/s ......have to read up tonight me tinks.........I still stick to there's an underlying problem there though.........and gigabyte SATA now controlled by Marvell 88SE9128 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o.......could be worth putting the SSD on the GSATA just to see if it performs any better.

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: alpha1 on July 01, 2011, 08:23:45 pm
Can be a problem because I have  sata 2 cable and not sata 3?
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 01, 2011, 08:30:30 pm
There is not supposed to be any difference between the two, but it wouldn't hurt to try another cable.

I would agree with Allan too about trying the Mavell GSATA port to see if it makes any difference.
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: HKEY_ on July 02, 2011, 03:29:32 am
 i use the intel SATA3_0 on mine with a vertex 3 240.
 


(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz133/ran1cho/disktest-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: alpha1 on July 02, 2011, 07:04:04 am
I have connected ssd on marvell controller and the problem is the same. Maybe I need to install any driver?
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: Aussie Allan on July 02, 2011, 07:53:46 am


 Yes!..........Go over to the Gigabyte website .......download and install the Marvell set and retest   ,........ with no marvel drivers , the port operates at SATA II spec.

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: alpha1 on July 02, 2011, 09:32:11 am
I upgraded with these drivers http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Chipsets&ProductLine=Chipset+Software&ProductProduct=Intel%C2%AE+Chipset+Software+Installation+Utility but the problem is the same.

Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: Aussie Allan on July 02, 2011, 10:24:13 am
I upgraded with these drivers http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Chipsets&ProductLine=Chipset+Software&ProductProduct=Intel%C2%AE+Chipset+Software+Installation+Utility but the problem is the same.


  Where loosing something in the translation here.........

  1) Not always but sometimes drivers a optimized for a given motherboards.......especially if your having troubles, use the manufactures website for Bios and driver downloads.

 2) It was Marvell drivers I thought we were talking about loading and trying over the Intel port ........these drivers you pointed me too are 2 years old

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: alpha1 on July 02, 2011, 10:30:43 am
I need to install the Marvell drivers?
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 02, 2011, 10:35:07 am
Hi

Go here and install all the drivers for your motherboard.

http://uk.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3847&dl=1#driver

Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: Aussie Allan on July 02, 2011, 10:39:44 am
I need to install the Marvell drivers?

.........YES!.....and try out the port that support it to see if there is a difference in the performance over the Intel port

    This will mean swapping the SATA connector .......As well as installing the driver and GUI



  Aussie Allan
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: alpha1 on July 02, 2011, 10:44:53 am
Would you give me a link where to download Marvell controller
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: Aussie Allan on July 02, 2011, 11:05:38 am
Would you give me a link where to download Marvell controller

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3847#dl

 Aussie Allan
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: alpha1 on July 02, 2011, 11:41:42 am
The problem remains the same. Possible to fault the sata 3 port?  :(

Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 02, 2011, 12:03:28 pm
You say the problem remains the same. Can you elaborate please.

I think you need to remove all your drives apart from the SSD and put that on SATA3_0. The controller should be set to AHCI in the BIOS and the drivers should aready be loaded.
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: alpha1 on July 02, 2011, 12:10:04 pm
For now I only have SSD, in bios I have AHCI
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 02, 2011, 12:14:10 pm
What port do you have the SSD connected to ?
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: alpha1 on July 02, 2011, 12:33:01 pm
Sata 3_0
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 02, 2011, 01:16:30 pm
So you have only the SSD connected and it is on SATA3_0 and in AHCI mode. As long as you have installed the motherboard chipset drivers you should be ok. In that case you should be getting the best speeds available. Have you enabled Native IDE Mode in the BIOS too as that will also make it faster.

Try running ATTO now and se what figures it gives you.
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: alpha1 on July 07, 2011, 07:27:10 pm
Hello again  ;)

 I have connected SSD to the motherboard P67 UD4 with sata 3 cable it was all ok (crystaldiskmark: read: 550MB/s write: 515MB/s). Then I have connected to my motherboard and again the results were abnormal (crystaldiskmark: read: 275MB/s write: 180MB/s). SSD has been connected with SATA 3 cable. I think that is wrong in the motherboard!
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 07, 2011, 07:55:05 pm
Well it would seem that something is not right. It could of course be the CPU as the chip controlls the memory and if it is not working properly it will slow everything down. The other thing, apart from the motherboard, that could be causing the problem is a badly configured BIOS.
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: alpha1 on July 07, 2011, 08:01:10 pm
I have last bios version (F7). There maybe some settings in the BIOS for the SATA port?

 
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: Dark Mantis on July 07, 2011, 09:54:34 pm
Well there are many settings in the BIOS pertaining to the SATA ports. I take it that you already have them set to AHCI and NCQ.
Title: Re: Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3 problem with ocz vertex 3 MI
Post by: Störung on July 09, 2011, 10:15:42 pm
No worries about that 128° temp reading. My Agility 3 also reads that temp via harware monitoring utilities & in SMART.
I've just placed a fancontroller and placed one tempsensor on the bottomside of the SSD (with one fan from front and one from below on it) and that reads 27°. I've a 2nd temp sensor on bottomside of my WD hard disk wich sits right above the SSD and that one gives 31.8°.
I'm going to get another hard disk to put a reserve OS on for in case ever happen something to the SSD, then I can also check that the SSD causes the main OS drive to read 128°. When I first connected the Agility to update firmware before install OS on it, it was my WD hard disk that readed 128° and the SSD readed a normal temp of 30°.
Still it is a little bit annoying it doesn't give correct temp via any hardware monitoring utility.