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Title: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Traveller on August 10, 2011, 04:48:13 pm
Hi.

I've noticed that the Phenom 1100T is supported from BIOS version FGF for the GA-890GPA-UD3H motherboard (rev. 2.1).

http://uk.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=3516

Would this combination work out of the box or would a BIOS update DEFINITELY be required? I asked someone who used the above combination of motherboard and CPU and they stated that their system worked fine out of the box without updating BIOS. I really wish to avoid trying to update BIOS as it is a MUCH more complicated process for my Ubuntu Linux pc. On the other hand I also read a customer comment that the pc wouldn't start at all and they had to buy a cheap CPU in order to flash the BIOS and then remove that CPU and install the 1100T, after which it worked.

I have visited the following page but my knowledge on this matter is somewhat limited.

Thanks.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: absic on August 10, 2011, 05:04:06 pm
Hi there,

as a general rule a motherboard will ship with an earlier BIOS than the latest released version so CPU support for the 1100T is not going to be guaranteed.  Usually it is advisable to upgrade the BIOS, using a CPU that will work from the first release to ensure that you have no problems.

That said, the difference between some of the CPU's is so slight that they can be recognised and will also work OK even though they are not officially supported. This can makes thing more confusing for you I'm afraid as, if you have this combination it may work out of the box but it might just as easily not work.

If you are ordering the motherboard from a reputable dealer you can often ask them to update the BIOS for you before they send you the board. Most will do this but they may make a charge.

Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Traveller on August 10, 2011, 05:23:15 pm
Hi absic.

Thanks for your helpful reply.

Sorry I forgot to paste the link I mentioned in my post, see below.

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3516&dl=1#bios

Does the note in the description section of the FGF BIOS mean that with this combination of motherboard and CPU, full functionality cannot be obtained?

Also, what does it mean by the removed unlock CPU core function? Is that only relevant to overclocking or does it affect non-overclocking CPU use also?

Thanks.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: absic on August 10, 2011, 05:49:25 pm
The core unlock feature is primarily for those who have a lower spec'd CPU such as a 555BE and wish to try and activate the locked cores that are present on them. This is not always a successful process but, if it does work you can get a quad core processor for the price of a dual core.

This doesn't effect the way the processor will run overall and the "Full Functionality" is referring to the previous BIOS features, some of which have had to be removed to allow for the new AM3+ CPU's to work on this board.

Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Traveller on August 10, 2011, 07:57:44 pm
Thanks absic, that makes it clearer. Where can I find the previous BIOS versions? I am asking because for the person whom I mentioned in my original post, the latest BIOS did not work at all and they had to update using an older one, FGA, which worked fine. Can I still obtain FGA? I realise that it won't support AM3+, but AM3+ isn't my priority at the moment.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: absic on August 10, 2011, 08:01:45 pm
You can download the current, and earlier BIOS versions for the Rev 2.1 board here: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3516&dl=1#bios

When it comes to updating BIOS I would recommend that you use the QFlash Utility as it is more reliable than the @BIOS software. If you're not sure of how to update th eBIOS using QFlash check here: http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,2441.msg13929.html#msg13929
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Traveller on August 11, 2011, 05:08:21 pm
Thanks for the advice absic. Where can I find the FGA version BIOS? Thanks.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: absic on August 11, 2011, 05:47:43 pm
Not sure where you will find it now as it has been updated with the FGF BIOS.

If you really want it then the best bet would be to search the internet to see if you can find it or hope someone with it stumbles across this thread. I would say try TweakTown but they only seem to have Gigabyte BIOS for Intel Boards.  :-\
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Traveller on August 11, 2011, 07:37:31 pm
Thanks absic. I have just been informed by Gigabyte that I can also send my board in to Gigabyte UK to have it flashed but they only provided a link to the motherboard page. Where do I find info on where to send it and if I need to pay any costs, e.g postage? Thanks.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 11, 2011, 08:41:03 pm
This is the email address of the returns department who deal with RMA repairs:

 returns@gbt-tech.co.uk
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Traveller on August 12, 2011, 01:37:12 am
Ok, Dark Mantis.

Thanks for all the help received here. I appreciate it all.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 12, 2011, 08:11:24 am
absic is always here to help with the AMD platform in particular and there is none better.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Traveller on August 16, 2011, 02:38:48 am
Hi.

I have researched the topic of whether or not a customer updating their BIOS renders their warranty void, however, have come up with a mixture of both yes and no. Does a customer updating BIOS themselves on their Gigabyte motherboard void their warranty.

Thanks.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Dark Mantis on August 16, 2011, 09:14:12 am
It doesn't seem to be taken that way at Gigabyte and often members are actually encouraged to do it to aid stability or increase performance.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: absic on August 16, 2011, 09:23:38 am
I actually asked Gigabyte this question a little while ago and was assured that the user, updating the BIOS themselves, did not void the warranty.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Traveller on August 16, 2011, 04:54:53 pm
Thanks Dark Mantis/absic.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Traveller on September 08, 2011, 06:40:50 pm
Hi All.

I have decided that I am going to try the CPU with the motherboard first and see if it works before attempting to update BIOS. As I will be using several parts from my old pc, if I do have to update BIOS and I am unsure about anything, I won't have Internet access in order to ask for any help, so I would like to ask a few questions before I dismantle my pc. Firstly, I would prefer to use the Q-Flash method as recommended in this thread, however, the motherboard manual doesn't mention things that appear in other general online instructions, such as clearing CMOS completely or removing batteries or anything like that. Am I to carry out ONLY what is mentioned in the motherboard instruction manual and nothing else? Also, I realise that the motherboard has a dual BIOS and the backup would kick in if anything were to go wrong, however, I would like to manually backup the main BIOS anyway to a USB/floppy disk. Is it just a case of choosing 'Save BIOS to Drive' via Q-Flash, as in the image below?

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/248/img0284mc.jpg/

Another thing that I'm unsure of is if BIOS is updated to the latest one successfully, does the back-up BIOS of the Dual BIOS system update to the latest one or does it remain as the original version? In either case, how can one go back to having the original BIOS version as the main BIOS after updating?

If there's anything else that I need to know that's not in the manual, I would appreciate any of that info.

Thanks.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: absic on September 08, 2011, 06:58:16 pm
Hi again,

I have doubts that you will be able to get the motherboard to work with the 1100T CPU without having the correct BIOS onboard. If you do try this don't be surprised if nothing happens.

Let's answer the easy question first. If you update the BIOS version to, for example FGf and you wish to go back to an earlier version you can do so in exactly the same way that you go from an older version to a newer one. Using QFlash makes this very easy to do.

Flashing the BIOS with QFlash is fairly simple and is not something to get too stressed over. If you follow the steps in the FAQ here: http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,2441.msg13929.html#msg13929 then everything should be fine. When you flash the main BIOS the back-up chip will still have the original version in it and it isn't updated automatically. There is a method to flash the main BIOS to the Back-Up chip which is basically pressing the "Alt & F12" keys at the same time during the POST stage of booting in the same way you would press the "Del" key to enter BIOS. It is not something that you need to do straight away and in fact, it is a good idea to leave the back-up BIOS alone until you are happy that the main BIOS is functioning correctly.

I have never backed up the BIOS using QFlash as I have never had a need to do so but I will check this out and post back in a few minutes once I have had a chance to experiment.

EDIT: Just tried backing up the main BIOS using QFlash and it seems fairly easy to do and it saved the BIOS to a USB pendrive without a problem.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Dark Mantis on September 08, 2011, 08:21:16 pm
Don't forget that you can always get hold of us here through a Internet Cafe or the local Library as they have internet access on their computers. I would just advise making a note of the forum address and your logon details in case you need them.

As absic said there is not much chance of the board working with that CPU if you don't update the BIOS first.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Traveller on September 08, 2011, 08:37:19 pm
Hi absic/Dark Mantis.

'I have doubts that you will be able to get the motherboard to work with the 1100T CPU without having the correct BIOS onboard.'

So do I!! Haha. I realise that it may or may not work. The only reason I want to try it first is that it worked for someone with an even older revision board than mine (2.0), so this gives me some hope. Maybe it'll be good for me to gain some experience in removing and replacing CPU/cooler/thermal paste!! Haha.

Going back to the customer's experience with this motherboard and CPU, they had the exact same revision as I do (2.1) and, as mentioned before, the latest BIOS did not work for them, however, FGA worked fine. I have read a user guide for Q-Flash from the following link, which states "With Q-FlashTM utility, please do not cross too many BIOS versions at one time if your current BIOS version is rather old. For example, do not cross from F1 to F12, but to flash from F1 to F4 and F4 to F8 and so on." Maybe this is why the latest BIOS didn't work for the customer as the latest version is the sixth one after the original.

http://www2010.gigabyte.com/Support/Motherboard/HowToReflashBIOS.aspx

Anyhow, thanks for all the advice, help and support, it has really been appreciated. I'm think I'm going to stop asking anymore questions (you'll be happy to hear! Haha) and just do it!
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: absic on September 08, 2011, 08:39:51 pm
The advice about not going from a BIOS version F1 straight to F8 for example is good advice and it is always better to update the BIOS in smaller steps if you can.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Traveller on September 08, 2011, 08:53:04 pm
Ok, absic, if I did that, then I would definitely go to FGA first, as it has been known to work as mentioned before, and then onto FGF only if necessary. Maybe my next post will be from my new pc!.....or the library! Hahahahaha.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Dark Mantis on September 08, 2011, 09:06:26 pm
Good luck anyway and it will be a good learning curve whatever. ;)
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Traveller on September 08, 2011, 11:23:44 pm
Thanks Dark Mantis!
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Traveller on September 08, 2011, 11:55:24 pm
Ok this my LAST question. I have three differing instructions and was wondering which is the correct/preferable one.

1. Extract and save all three files onto the USB drive.

2. Extract and save the whole folder containing the three files onto the USB drive.

3. Extract and save only the BIOS file onto the USB drive. (This is the one in the manual and the how to guide at the link in my earlier post.)

Thanks.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: absic on September 09, 2011, 07:34:39 am
Would you believe me if I said all three methods will work!

The easiest is of course to just copy the BIOS file straight onto the pendrive as you don't have to do any navigating to find it!  ;)
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Dark Mantis on September 09, 2011, 07:36:22 am
You just beat me there absic

I was just going to say the same but that I would go for the third option as it is least likely to get confusing.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: absic on September 09, 2011, 08:08:01 am
Erm? ??? Isn't that what I said DM.....
The easiest is of course to just copy the BIOS file straight onto the pendrive as you don't have to do any navigating to find it!  ;)
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Dark Mantis on September 09, 2011, 09:10:46 am
Er, yes! I was just agreeing with you absic. Just poorly worded I guess. :-\
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: absic on September 09, 2011, 09:14:37 am
Don't worry DM, just sit back in your chair and we'll plug it in later!  :D
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Dark Mantis on September 09, 2011, 09:41:13 am
Cool, I could do with a boost! 8)
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Traveller on September 09, 2011, 12:24:41 pm
Ok thanks absic/Dark Mantis, the third option it is then. I'm going to put a different version on three different USB drives just in case! Haha.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Dark Mantis on September 09, 2011, 12:59:01 pm
That should have it covered alright!  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU - SOLVED
Post by: Traveller on September 11, 2011, 06:29:52 pm
It's alive!! The CPU worked with the motherboard fine without having to update BIOS.

Thanks everyone for your help. It really has been appreciated.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Dark Mantis on September 11, 2011, 08:47:30 pm
That is certainly good news and neither absic or I expected it to work without the update so very good. ;D
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Traveller on September 11, 2011, 10:40:42 pm
Hi Dark Mantis. I am SO relieved that it worked because it would have been a major pain if I had to go through all the thermal paste removing and applying.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Dark Mantis on September 12, 2011, 07:13:46 am
It is still  a good idea to update the BIOS now to the latest version that has support for your chip.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: absic on September 12, 2011, 08:55:57 am
Hi Traveller,

well, that's one for the memory banks as I really didn't expect you to be able to fire up without the latest BIOS on-board!  :P

As DM has already said, it is a really good idea to update to the latest version of BIOS as it will give full support for your CPU and prevent any issues. I'm not sure how your system is running but you may find, for example, that your CPU is locked at a slower speed than it should be or that some of the other features, such as TurboCore, aren't running properly.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Traveller on September 12, 2011, 03:11:34 pm
Hi Dark Mantis/absic.

I don't think I'll update BIOS until I come across a problem big enough for me to have to update. Is there any way of testing if the cores, etc are working as they should? Thanks.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: absic on September 12, 2011, 03:42:12 pm
Hi,

I use CPU-Z which you can download free from here: http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html a useful little piece of software that will show if everything's working as it should.  ;)
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Traveller on September 12, 2011, 08:16:07 pm
Hi absic.

Unfortunately there is no CPU-Z for Linux, so I tried finding an alternative but there aren't any by the looks of it. I did find a way to obtain some info, but it just looks like general info. I've pasted it below.

Maybe this:-

http://members.dslextreme.com/users/billw/gkrellm/gkrellm.html

or very basic:-

http://sourceforge.net/projects/cpug/

If anyone comes across this post and is not interested in technical mumbo jumbo about the CPU, you may simply ignore everything that appears below. Thanks.

processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family   : 16
model      : 10
model name   : AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor
stepping   : 0
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cache size   : 512 KB
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cpuid level   : 6
wp      : yes
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bogomips   : 6629.26
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cache_alignment   : 64
address sizes   : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [9]

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vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family   : 16
model      : 10
model name   : AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor
stepping   : 0
cpu MHz      : 800.000
cache size   : 512 KB
physical id   : 0
siblings   : 6
core id      : 1
cpu cores   : 6
apicid      : 1
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fpu      : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level   : 6
wp      : yes
flags      : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt cpb npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save pausefilter
bogomips   : 6629.30
TLB size   : 1024 4K pages
clflush size   : 64
cache_alignment   : 64
address sizes   : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [9]

processor   : 2
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family   : 16
model      : 10
model name   : AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor
stepping   : 0
cpu MHz      : 800.000
cache size   : 512 KB
physical id   : 0
siblings   : 6
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cpu cores   : 6
apicid      : 2
initial apicid   : 4
fpu      : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
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wp      : yes
flags      : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt cpb npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save pausefilter
bogomips   : 6629.30
TLB size   : 1024 4K pages
clflush size   : 64
cache_alignment   : 64
address sizes   : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [9]

processor   : 3
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family   : 16
model      : 10
model name   : AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor
stepping   : 0
cpu MHz      : 800.000
cache size   : 512 KB
physical id   : 0
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core id      : 5
cpu cores   : 6
apicid      : 3
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fpu      : yes
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cpuid level   : 6
wp      : yes
flags      : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt cpb npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save pausefilter
bogomips   : 6629.29
TLB size   : 1024 4K pages
clflush size   : 64
cache_alignment   : 64
address sizes   : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [9]

processor   : 4
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family   : 16
model      : 10
model name   : AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor
stepping   : 0
cpu MHz      : 800.000
cache size   : 512 KB
physical id   : 0
siblings   : 6
core id      : 2
cpu cores   : 6
apicid      : 4
initial apicid   : 2
fpu      : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level   : 6
wp      : yes
flags      : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt cpb npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save pausefilter
bogomips   : 6629.32
TLB size   : 1024 4K pages
clflush size   : 64
cache_alignment   : 64
address sizes   : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [9]

processor   : 5
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family   : 16
model      : 10
model name   : AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor
stepping   : 0
cpu MHz      : 800.000
cache size   : 512 KB
physical id   : 0
siblings   : 6
core id      : 3
cpu cores   : 6
apicid      : 5
initial apicid   : 3
fpu      : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level   : 6
wp      : yes
flags      : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt cpb npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save pausefilter
bogomips   : 6629.30
TLB size   : 1024 4K pages
clflush size   : 64
cache_alignment   : 64
address sizes   : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [9]
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: absic on September 12, 2011, 08:29:24 pm
Hi Traveller,

didn't realise you were running Linux but from the info you have posted below it seems as if your CPU is only running at 800 MHz! This could be due to the BIOS or to the energy saving features in BIOS for the CPU.

I'm not sure what programmes are available for Linux so I cannot point you in the right direction I'm afraid but you need to try putting your CPU under load to see if the speed increases from its current level.



Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Traveller on September 13, 2011, 03:10:12 pm
Hi absic. I have searched for an easy and safe method to test the CPU but haven't had enough time to do so. I went to youtube and played an HD 1080p video and then ran the same command as previously. Whenever I did that just one of the cores shows 3300.000 (CPU MHz) and the other five still show 800. Yesterday core no. 4 showed 3300.000 and today it was core no. 0 that showed it. What does all this mean? Thanks.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: absic on September 13, 2011, 03:24:05 pm
It probably means that you need to update to the latest BIOS version Traveller.

I would recommend that you use QFlash to do the update.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: Traveller on September 14, 2011, 02:50:21 pm
Hi absic, I've been doing some Internet searching and asking questions and some people seem to think that what I describe is normal. I still need to make sure though, so I'll update here when I get more info or run a test or two. I've just read that post about someone upgrading to FGF and having RAM limitations/problems, so that has made me even more wary. Thanks.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: absic on September 14, 2011, 03:03:13 pm
Hi Traveller,

Yes, the 800 MHz speed of the CPU can be normal especially if you have Core Performance Boost and Turbo CPB enabled in BIOS. This allows the CPU to idle down to 800MHz when idle then run at normal speed when you actually start to do things. Hence my earlier post about stressing the CPU to see if the speed rises.

If it doesn't increase in speed when under load, then it is probably because your current BIOS is not properly recognising the CPU. One of the reasons that the FF BIOS will partially recognise the 1100T is because it is basically the same processor as the other Phenom ii's but, and this is a big but, the FF does not have the necessary code to allow full implementation of the 1100T hence the FGF BIOS which does.
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU - SOLVED
Post by: Traveller on September 15, 2011, 08:10:32 pm
Hi absic. I am now convinced that my CPU is working fine. Below is what I get if I disable Cool and Quiet in BIOS. Also, if I display my System Monitor whilst playing an HD 1080p video on youtube, all six of the cores show a percentage that fluctuates, e.g. 10%, 27%, etc.

Thanks for all the help and advice received here, it has been very appreciated!


processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family   : 16
model      : 10
model name   : AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor
stepping   : 0
cpu MHz      : 3314.698
cache size   : 512 KB
physical id   : 0
siblings   : 6
core id      : 0
cpu cores   : 6
apicid      : 0
initial apicid   : 0
fpu      : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level   : 6
wp      : yes
flags      : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt cpb npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save pausefilter
bogomips   : 6629.39
TLB size   : 1024 4K pages
clflush size   : 64
cache_alignment   : 64
address sizes   : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [9]

processor   : 1
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family   : 16
model      : 10
model name   : AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor
stepping   : 0
cpu MHz      : 3314.698
cache size   : 512 KB
physical id   : 0
siblings   : 6
core id      : 1
cpu cores   : 6
apicid      : 1
initial apicid   : 1
fpu      : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level   : 6
wp      : yes
flags      : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt cpb npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save pausefilter
bogomips   : 6629.31
TLB size   : 1024 4K pages
clflush size   : 64
cache_alignment   : 64
address sizes   : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [9]

processor   : 2
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family   : 16
model      : 10
model name   : AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor
stepping   : 0
cpu MHz      : 3314.698
cache size   : 512 KB
physical id   : 0
siblings   : 6
core id      : 5
cpu cores   : 6
apicid      : 2
initial apicid   : 5
fpu      : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level   : 6
wp      : yes
flags      : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt cpb npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save pausefilter
bogomips   : 6629.31
TLB size   : 1024 4K pages
clflush size   : 64
cache_alignment   : 64
address sizes   : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [9]

processor   : 3
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family   : 16
model      : 10
model name   : AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor
stepping   : 0
cpu MHz      : 3314.698
cache size   : 512 KB
physical id   : 0
siblings   : 6
core id      : 2
cpu cores   : 6
apicid      : 3
initial apicid   : 2
fpu      : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level   : 6
wp      : yes
flags      : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt cpb npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save pausefilter
bogomips   : 6629.31
TLB size   : 1024 4K pages
clflush size   : 64
cache_alignment   : 64
address sizes   : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [9]

processor   : 4
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family   : 16
model      : 10
model name   : AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor
stepping   : 0
cpu MHz      : 3314.698
cache size   : 512 KB
physical id   : 0
siblings   : 6
core id      : 4
cpu cores   : 6
apicid      : 4
initial apicid   : 4
fpu      : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level   : 6
wp      : yes
flags      : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt cpb npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save pausefilter
bogomips   : 6629.31
TLB size   : 1024 4K pages
clflush size   : 64
cache_alignment   : 64
address sizes   : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [9]

processor   : 5
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family   : 16
model      : 10
model name   : AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor
stepping   : 0
cpu MHz      : 3314.698
cache size   : 512 KB
physical id   : 0
siblings   : 6
core id      : 3
cpu cores   : 6
apicid      : 5
initial apicid   : 3
fpu      : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level   : 6
wp      : yes
flags      : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt cpb npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save pausefilter
bogomips   : 6629.31
TLB size   : 1024 4K pages
clflush size   : 64
cache_alignment   : 64
address sizes   : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate [9]
Title: Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H with AMD Phenom II x6 1100T CPU
Post by: absic on September 15, 2011, 08:13:45 pm
Hi again Traveller,

yes, it looks like your CPU is functioning as it should and at the correct speed.